Here ya go, Laz!

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Never count yer chickens b'fore they're hatched, as the yank
saying goes.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/01/04/1136050499206.html

Seven and Ten to trump AFL TV bid

By Christian Catalano
January 5, 2006



THE $780 million battle for the AFL's television broadcast rights is
likely to come to a head today with the Seven and Ten networks ready to
announce they will match the accepted bid from the Packer family's
Channel Nine.

Sources close to the negotiations confirmed last night that Ten's board
and its major shareholder, the Canada-based CanWest, have approved
paying an extra $20 million a year in cash on top of the consortium's
initial bid. Seven Network chairman Kerry Stokes and chief executive
David Leckie ratified the deal on Tuesday.

The offer includes an estimated $680 million in cash and $100 million
in "contra" . free marketing and promotion through their TV and
publishing interests . over five years from 2007 to 2011.

Nine was not ready to accept defeat last night. Senior executive Lynton
Taylor . who worked on the bid with Kerry Packer in the weeks before
his death . said the final decision rested with the AFL Commission.

"The AFL have the final say and we will wait and see what the AFL tells
us," he said.


Seven and Ten are satisfied that under the terms of the first and last
bidding rights . for which Seven paid $20 million in 1997 and then
shared with Ten last year . the AFL will have no choice but to agree to
an offer that matches the one it accepted from Nine before Christmas.

But the relationship between the Seven-Ten consortium and the AFL has
been brittle. There is speculation that the league will ask for more
time to examine the contra component before accepting it. The AFL would
not comment last night.

Seven and Ten have argued that they only need to match the dollar value
of Nine's contra offer, which included advertising and promotional
opportunities across its TV and magazine assets and its dominant
internet portal, ninemsn.

Seven also owns Australia's second-largest magazine group behind PBL
and has a partnership with the local arm of internet giant Yahoo!,
which allow it to offer similar contra deals.

Another lingering worry for Seven and Ten is the involvement of pay TV
company Foxtel, which is 25 per cent owned by the Packers' Publishing
and Broadcasting Limited.

Though Seven and Ten have told the AFL they intend to broadcast three
games a week on pay TV, the consortium has not begun formal discussions
with Foxtel.

While Nine was expected to reap $50-$60 million a year from
sub-licensing up to four games a week to Foxtel, the Seven-Ten group is
likely to be paid less because it is offering one fewer game a week.

Media analysts said Foxtel would have little choice but to deal with
Seven-Ten because football has helped it attract more subscribers in
the southern states. Without Foxtel, Seven and Ten will most likely
look to cover as many of the eight weekly games as possible.

BL.
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> Never count yer chickens b'fore they're hatched, as the yank
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So why are you posting this? These chickens haven't hatched yet either.
In fact, the whole thing looks very dodgy. It's set up for someone to
make a wrong decision and leave themselves open to a huge lawsuit.
7/10 haven't even set up the PayTV deal which they are including as part
of their tender. That is a ridiculous way to do business at this level.
And who owns a big chunk of Fox? Their rivals! So what kind of deal
are they hoping to strike with Fox after they've managed to nudge Fox's
major owner out of the TV rights deal? And this after 7/10 both had to
pass the hat around to scrape up enough virtual dough to put in the last
bid. I think the big winners in this is going to be the players and the
lawyers.

deker

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> So why are you posting this? These chickens haven't hatched yet either.

My point in posting is this, is that some people think that the
Ch. 9 deal was the be all end all, and that 7/10 weren't going to be
able to do anything about it. this post proved that wrong, and now
there's going to be yet even more to be done, contrary to people's
beliefs.

I agree; the winners in this will be the lawyers and players;
hopefully, the fans as well. As far as the US goes, it's still unclear
on what the impac of a 7/10 win will be for US coverage. But for the
rest of Oz, as they (7/10) said before, this is far from over.

BL.
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
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>>> Never count yer chickens b'fore they're hatched, as the yank
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>>So why are you posting this? These chickens haven't hatched yet either.
>
>
> My point in posting is this, is that some people think that the
> Ch. 9 deal was the be all end all, and that 7/10 weren't going to be
> able to do anything about it. this post proved that wrong, and now
> there's going to be yet even more to be done, contrary to people's
> beliefs.

7/10 always had the rights to the first and last bids, ince they paid
for them a few years back. The only real question once the 9/Fox bid
came is was whether they were going to be up to it, financially.
Laz is just a nutjob who only really spoke out after the 9/fox bid
was put in. He had no idea, like the rest of us, that they were even
going to be able to compete with 7's first (insulting) tender. He just
loves anything to do with Eddie.

> I agree; the winners in this will be the lawyers and players;
> hopefully, the fans as well. As far as the US goes, it's still unclear
> on what the impac of a 7/10 win will be for US coverage. But for the
> rest of Oz, as they (7/10) said before, this is far from over.

dunno how it affects the US, but the 9 deal means one less FTA game a
weekend for aussies, plus more of Eddie to put up with. none of this
matters to the AFL.

Mark my words, this whole thing is going to make lawyers a lot of money
- after the AFL reject the 7/10 bid. hopefully I'm wrong, but I can't
see the AFL accepting the offer as it exists, if I've read it correctly.

deker

deker

deker

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>> My point in posting is this, is that some people think that the
>> Ch. 9 deal was the be all end all, and that 7/10 weren't going to be
>> able to do anything about it. this post proved that wrong, and now
>> there's going to be yet even more to be done, contrary to people's
>> beliefs.
>
>
> 7/10 always had the rights to the first and last bids, ince they paid
> for them a few years back. The only real question once the 9/Fox bid
> came is was whether they were going to be up to it, financially.
> Laz is just a nutjob who only really spoke out after the 9/fox bid
> was put in. He had no idea, like the rest of us, that they were even
> going to be able to compete with 7's first (insulting) tender. He just
> loves anything to do with Eddie.
>
>> I agree; the winners in this will be the lawyers and players;
>> hopefully, the fans as well. As far as the US goes, it's still unclear
>> on what the impac of a 7/10 win will be for US coverage. But for the
>> rest of Oz, as they (7/10) said before, this is far from over.
>
>
> dunno how it affects the US, but the 9 deal means one less FTA game a
> weekend for aussies, plus more of Eddie to put up with. none of this
> matters to the AFL.
>
> Mark my words, this whole thing is going to make lawyers a lot of money
> - after the AFL reject the 7/10 bid. hopefully I'm wrong, but I can't
> see the AFL accepting the offer as it exists, if I've read it correctly.
>
> deker
>
> deker
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> deker

oi! oi! oi! had to get in before the smartarses..:)

deker

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> oi! oi! oi! had to get in before the smartarses..:)
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smartarse. ;)

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On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:43:24 GMT, A Guy Called Tyketto
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>http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/01/04/1136050499206.html

The only winners out of this will be the lawyers, as this is going to
end up in the courts.

Greg

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Greg wrote:
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> The only winners out of this will be the lawyers, as this is going to
> end up in the courts.
>
> Greg

snap!

do you have Foxtel, greg? Have you heard of the plans for all dockers
home games (and Eagles too I think) to FTA to be scrapped in favour of
showing them all on Fox? This is bad news for Eagles supporters as you
already get full houses at the footy so the people who can't make it to
the game could still see it on FTA. for dockers, it may get a few more
to the game and push us up with the Eagles as far as game attendances
goes, but the underlying motive, to state the obvious, is for Fox to get
a bigger share of WA market, ie more subscribers. The AFL's message to
the average footy fan is.. gotta have a J.O.B.. if ya wanna be with me..
i.e. they're bloodsucking ****s.

deker

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I guess Laz's chickens were stillborn.

deker

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<choke> <splutter> <rofl>
hey deks, please don't do that when I have a mouth full of coffee

Hopefully will mean we will see some games
Must admit I object to the idea of being held to ransom by Foxtel

avagoodone
giovani

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On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 09:20:07 +0800, deker <deker@19> wrote:

>Greg wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 17:43:24 GMT, A Guy Called Tyketto
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>> The only winners out of this will be the lawyers, as this is going to
>> end up in the courts.
>>
>> Greg
>
>snap!
>
>do you have Foxtel, greg? Have you heard of the plans for all dockers
>home games (and Eagles too I think) to FTA to be scrapped in favour of
>showing them all on Fox? This is bad news for Eagles supporters as you
>already get full houses at the footy so the people who can't make it to
>the game could still see it on FTA. for dockers, it may get a few more
>to the game and push us up with the Eagles as far as game attendances
>goes, but the underlying motive, to state the obvious, is for Fox to get
>a bigger share of WA market, ie more subscribers. The AFL's message to
>the average footy fan is.. gotta have a J.O.B.. if ya wanna be with me..
>i.e. they're bloodsucking ****s.

Yes I do have Fox, but it is rare that I get to see it as the wife and
daughter watch all the "reality" shows, the dating shows and of course
jerry Springer and Maury Povich.
Unless the games are live either FTA or Fox, I cant be bothered
watching I just either go or listen to the radio.

Greg

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On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 11:59:54 +0800, deker wrote:

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They had bird 'flu.........

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