Are NSW coppers c&^$s?

[Ext User(Andy)]

Driving back from the snow, get waved down by two coppers in sleepy
Berridale. Well there these wo guys just standing there and bugger if
I know which one I should stop at so I go past the first one to pull up
at the next one. This guy says it is a random breath and license check.
Yah, yeah. As I hand over my license, the first older copper come up
to the car and asks "Is there anything wrong with your indicators?"
Uhh? What? Dont think so? Why? "You failed to indicate when I
indicated for you to pull over." Well I Sir, I was looking intently at
you to see what I should do and just plain forgot. "Dont do it again".

Is this a regular shakedown exercise? So what is the law on
indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
on the road.

[Ext User(mark jb)]

> Driving back from the snow, get waved down by two coppers in sleepy
> Berridale. Well there these wo guys just standing there and bugger if
> I know which one I should stop at so I go past the first one to pull up
> at the next one. This guy says it is a random breath and license check.
> Yah, yeah. As I hand over my license, the first older copper come up
> to the car and asks "Is there anything wrong with your indicators?"
> Uhh? What? Dont think so? Why? "You failed to indicate when I
> indicated for you to pull over." Well I Sir, I was looking intently at
> you to see what I should do and just plain forgot. "Dont do it again".

Sounds normal for NSW cops to me. Bunch of smartarse pricks.
Don't worry, though - most couldnt be fucked writing out a ticket for that.

-mark

[Ext User(mg)]

"Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144581250.173260.169700@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Driving back from the snow, get waved down by two coppers in sleepy
> Berridale. Well there these wo guys just standing there and bugger if
> I know which one I should stop at so I go past the first one to pull up
> at the next one. This guy says it is a random breath and license check.
> Yah, yeah. As I hand over my license, the first older copper come up
> to the car and asks "Is there anything wrong with your indicators?"
> Uhh? What? Dont think so? Why? "You failed to indicate when I
> indicated for you to pull over." Well I Sir, I was looking intently at
> you to see what I should do and just plain forgot. "Dont do it again".
>
> Is this a regular shakedown exercise? So what is the law on
> indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
> learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
> on the road.


Yes indicators are installed on all vehicles, for a reason.

Not using them is not only lazy and inconsiderate, it is dangerous.

[Ext User(Spear and Magic Helmet)]

Andy wrote:

> So what is the law on > indicators, must they always be given on
> changing lanes? Seems that I learnt in SA they are only
> required to be shown if there is other cars on the road.

When I got my license (NSW) I was told that if you move more than a
metre off your tack then you should use your indicator. So that would
definitely cover changing lanes.

Common sense tells you that there's no need if there's no-one around to
see your indicator, but we're talking about LAW here.

[Ext User(Knobdoodle)]

"Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> .... So what is the law on
> indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
> learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
> on the road.
>
Typical car-y head-up-your-arse, no-other-road-users-except-cars attitude.
"If you can't see another car you don't have to indicate........."
No wonder so many motorcyclists and cyclists get slaughtered by you witless
fucks. (and no wonder so many stupid car-ys end up under trucks or
head-onning eachother!)

It's a pity you didn't get the ticket; you might've learned to be a bit
more courteous (and pay some attention to your obligations) in the future.
--
Knob

[Ext User(Poxy)]

"Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144581250.173260.169700@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> Driving back from the snow, get waved down by two coppers in sleepy
> Berridale. Well there these wo guys just standing there and bugger if
> I know which one I should stop at so I go past the first one to pull up
> at the next one. This guy says it is a random breath and license check.
> Yah, yeah. As I hand over my license, the first older copper come up
> to the car and asks "Is there anything wrong with your indicators?"
> Uhh? What? Dont think so? Why? "You failed to indicate when I
> indicated for you to pull over." Well I Sir, I was looking intently at
> you to see what I should do and just plain forgot. "Dont do it again".
>
> Is this a regular shakedown exercise? So what is the law on
> indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
> learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
> on the road.

Look at it from his point of view - he's flagging you down, and looks to
your indicators to tell whether you've acknowledged his instruction. He can
only tell if you are actually going to pull over from the motion of your
car, which is probably quite disconcerting, particularly when you end up
driving straight past him.

I don't think he was ever going to write you a ticket, rather I think he was
just looking for some common courtesy.

[Ext User(Buster Hymen)]

Hey..go easy on Andy, you self righteous bastards.....a cop jumps out in
front of you and in the heat of the moment you don't think to indicate..so
what....some of these cops just jump out and give you stuff-all time to pull
up let alone indicate your intention...a wonder more cops arent run over
flagging down cars.

Sounds like Andy just got one who was having a shit of a day and wanted to
give him a scare and get technical.....


"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Iu7_f.2919$vy1.168@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> .... So what is the law on
>> indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
>> learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
>> on the road.
>>
> Typical car-y head-up-your-arse, no-other-road-users-except-cars attitude.
> "If you can't see another car you don't have to indicate........."
> No wonder so many motorcyclists and cyclists get slaughtered by you
> witless fucks. (and no wonder so many stupid car-ys end up under trucks
> or head-onning eachother!)
>
> It's a pity you didn't get the ticket; you might've learned to be a bit
> more courteous (and pay some attention to your obligations) in the future.
> --
> Knob
>

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:10:21 GMT, mg wrote:

> "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144581250.173260.169700@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> Driving back from the snow, get waved down by two coppers in sleepy
>> Berridale. Well there these wo guys just standing there and bugger if
>> I know which one I should stop at so I go past the first one to pull up
>> at the next one. This guy says it is a random breath and license check.
>> Yah, yeah. As I hand over my license, the first older copper come up
>> to the car and asks "Is there anything wrong with your indicators?"
>> Uhh? What? Dont think so? Why? "You failed to indicate when I
>> indicated for you to pull over." Well I Sir, I was looking intently at
>> you to see what I should do and just plain forgot. "Dont do it again".
>>
>> Is this a regular shakedown exercise? So what is the law on
>> indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
>> learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
>> on the road.
>
>
> Yes indicators are installed on all vehicles, for a reason.
>
> Not using them is not only lazy and inconsiderate, it is dangerous.

Fuck orf!!
Indicators indicate 'intention' to turn.
The OP had absolutely NO intention to deviate from his chosen path.
Ergo, he didn't need to indicate just because a cop directed him to
turn from his chosen path. He had no intention in that regard.
Consider the requirement for indicating intention to turn. It's based
on distance.
Did the cops allow for that with their gestures/whatever they used to
indicate the requirement to get off the road?
Nope, you can bet on that.
So, according to them no matter what the OP did with the indicators,
it was always going to be 'illegal'.


Of course a magistrate would convict him, because of the Single Malt.
Not because the OP was in the wrong.

--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 13:05:48 GMT, Poxy wrote:

> "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144581250.173260.169700@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> Driving back from the snow, get waved down by two coppers in sleepy
>> Berridale. Well there these wo guys just standing there and bugger if
>> I know which one I should stop at so I go past the first one to pull up
>> at the next one. This guy says it is a random breath and license check.
>> Yah, yeah. As I hand over my license, the first older copper come up
>> to the car and asks "Is there anything wrong with your indicators?"
>> Uhh? What? Dont think so? Why? "You failed to indicate when I
>> indicated for you to pull over." Well I Sir, I was looking intently at
>> you to see what I should do and just plain forgot. "Dont do it again".
>>
>> Is this a regular shakedown exercise? So what is the law on
>> indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
>> learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
>> on the road.
>
> Look at it from his point of view - he's flagging you down, and looks to
> your indicators to tell whether you've acknowledged his instruction. He can
> only tell if you are actually going to pull over from the motion of your
> car, which is probably quite disconcerting, particularly when you end up
> driving straight past him.
>
> I don't think he was ever going to write you a ticket, rather I think he was
> just looking for some common courtesy.

Worried about his laundry,more likely.

And conducting a RANDOM BREATH TEST.

Fuck they've got a hide.

Co'mon, now try and tell me tell me a turd preventing you going about
your lawful occasions for no reason other than the suspicion that you
may be pissed demands any courtesy at all.



--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

[Ext User(mg)]

"Toby Ponsenby" <toby@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:10qcrvqvvhcph$.nwm2jq3eb7lp.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:10:21 GMT, mg wrote:
>
>> "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1144581250.173260.169700@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Driving back from the snow, get waved down by two coppers in sleepy
>>> Berridale. Well there these wo guys just standing there and bugger if
>>> I know which one I should stop at so I go past the first one to pull up
>>> at the next one. This guy says it is a random breath and license check.
>>> Yah, yeah. As I hand over my license, the first older copper come up
>>> to the car and asks "Is there anything wrong with your indicators?"
>>> Uhh? What? Dont think so? Why? "You failed to indicate when I
>>> indicated for you to pull over." Well I Sir, I was looking intently at
>>> you to see what I should do and just plain forgot. "Dont do it again".
>>>
>>> Is this a regular shakedown exercise? So what is the law on
>>> indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
>>> learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
>>> on the road.
>>
>>
>> Yes indicators are installed on all vehicles, for a reason.
>>
>> Not using them is not only lazy and inconsiderate, it is dangerous.
>
> Fuck orf!!

Tourettes syndrome?

> Indicators indicate 'intention' to turn.

Using the indicator to me is instinctive. And any prick who does'nt do it
and inconveniences me gets a taste of my air-horns. It should be habit, not
enviromental.

[Snoozin]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:10:21 GMT, mg wrote:

> "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144581250.173260.169700@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> Driving back from the snow, get waved down by two coppers in sleepy
>> Berridale. Well there these wo guys just standing there and bugger if
>> I know which one I should stop at so I go past the first one to pull up
>> at the next one. This guy says it is a random breath and license check.
>> Yah, yeah. As I hand over my license, the first older copper come up
>> to the car and asks "Is there anything wrong with your indicators?"
>> Uhh? What? Dont think so? Why? "You failed to indicate when I
>> indicated for you to pull over." Well I Sir, I was looking intently at
>> you to see what I should do and just plain forgot. "Dont do it again".
>>
>> Is this a regular shakedown exercise? So what is the law on
>> indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
>> learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
>> on the road.
>
>
> Yes indicators are installed on all vehicles, for a reason.
>
> Not using them is not only lazy and inconsiderate, it is dangerous.

Fuck orf!!
Indicators indicate 'intention' to turn.
The OP had absolutely NO intention to deviate from his chosen path.
Ergo, he didn't need to indicate just because a cop directed him to
turn from his chosen path. He had no intention in that regard.
Consider the requirement for indicating intention to turn. It's based
on distance.
Did the cops allow for that with their gestures/whatever they used to
indicate the requirement to get off the road?
Nope, you can bet on that.
So, according to them no matter what the OP did with the indicators,
it was always going to be 'illegal'.


Of course a magistrate would convict him, because of the Single Malt.
Not because the OP was in the wrong.

--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

Yep, magistrate would convict because he did not his intention to deviate from his current path and direction.
He drove past one copper to stop at another...how slow do you think his brain works?

[Snoozin]

Worried about his laundry,more likely.

And conducting a RANDOM BREATH TEST.

Fuck they've got a hide.

Co'mon, now try and tell me tell me a turd preventing you going about
your lawful occasions for no reason other than the suspicion that you
may be pissed demands any courtesy at all.



--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

Idiot!

[VYBerlinaV8]

Random breath tests are a top idea, I say. Get the drunks the hell off the road.

And using indicators should be second nature - they are your primary means of communicating with other road users.

[Ext User(Uncle Bully)]

"Buster Hymen" <busterhymen@tedhunter.com> wrote in message
news:44390679$0$7532$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> Hey..go easy on Andy, you self righteous bastards.....a cop jumps out in
> front of you and in the heat of the moment you don't think to indicate..so
> what....some of these cops just jump out and give you stuff-all time to
> pull up let alone indicate your intention...a wonder more cops arent run
> over flagging down cars.
>
> Sounds like Andy just got one who was having a shit of a day and wanted to
> give him a scare and get technical.....

The worst one I had was coming north over the harbour bridge. I'm in one of
the middle lanes and there's an RBT on the extreme left near the
observatory, just as as you come on the approach to the bridge. It's 2am so
I see these guys but I'm thinking they won't wave me down due to the
inherent danger of expecting someone to turn almost sideways across a
multilane lane to get to them. So I 'm looking and I'm looking and they're
ignoring me until I'm about next to them, except 2 or 4 three lanes tot he
right, when the cop suddenly races out and signals for me to pull over. I
have to jam on the brakes, luckily no-one is behind me, then wait stationary
in the middle of the road for traffic to clear in the inside lanes before
doing a near 90 deg turn to the side of the road.
You can't tell me that is not irresponsible from the cops POV.

[Ext User(Trevor Wilson)]

"mg" <nospam@home.ok> wrote in message
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>
> "Toby Ponsenby" <toby@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:10qcrvqvvhcph$.nwm2jq3eb7lp.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:10:21 GMT, mg wrote:
>>
>>> "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1144581250.173260.169700@i40g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Driving back from the snow, get waved down by two coppers in sleepy
>>>> Berridale. Well there these wo guys just standing there and bugger if
>>>> I know which one I should stop at so I go past the first one to pull up
>>>> at the next one. This guy says it is a random breath and license check.
>>>> Yah, yeah. As I hand over my license, the first older copper come up
>>>> to the car and asks "Is there anything wrong with your indicators?"
>>>> Uhh? What? Dont think so? Why? "You failed to indicate when I
>>>> indicated for you to pull over." Well I Sir, I was looking intently at
>>>> you to see what I should do and just plain forgot. "Dont do it again".
>>>>
>>>> Is this a regular shakedown exercise? So what is the law on
>>>> indicators, must they always be given on changing lanes? Seems that I
>>>> learnt in SA they are only required to be shown if there is other cars
>>>> on the road.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes indicators are installed on all vehicles, for a reason.
>>>
>>> Not using them is not only lazy and inconsiderate, it is dangerous.
>>
>> Fuck orf!!
>
> Tourettes syndrome?
>
>> Indicators indicate 'intention' to turn.
>
> Using the indicator to me is instinctive. And any prick who does'nt do it
> and inconveniences me gets a taste of my air-horns. It should be habit,
> not enviromental.

**Agreed. I've had a gutful of lazy arseholes who imagine that they do not
need to obey such basic road rules.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[Ext User(Ron)]

"mg" <nospam@home.ok> wrote in
news:Hk8_f.2937$vy1.2595@news-server.bigpond.net.au:

>
> Using the indicator to me is instinctive. And any prick who does'nt do
> it and inconveniences me gets a taste of my air-horns. It should be
> habit, not enviromental.

AIR HORNS???

ILLEGAL
--
NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth

[Ext User(mark jb)]

> Worried about his laundry,more likely.
>
> And conducting a RANDOM BREATH TEST.
>
> Fuck they've got a hide.
>
> Co'mon, now try and tell me tell me a turd preventing you going about
> your lawful occasions for no reason other than the suspicion that you
> may be pissed demands any courtesy at all.

What, you reckon he should shine your shoes and kiss your arse while you're
waiting? Fuckhead.

-mark

[Ext User(Just JT)]

"Toby Ponsenby" <toby@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> Fuck orf!!
> Indicators indicate 'intention' to turn.
> The OP had absolutely NO intention to deviate from his chosen path.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
You miss the difference between INTENTION and WILLINGNESS.

--
AndIThoughtEnglishWasYourFirstLanguage!

[Ext User(Just JT)]

"reg-john" <al@fddfd.com> wrote:
>
>> Co'mon, now try and tell me tell me a turd preventing you going about
>> your lawful occasions for no reason other than the suspicion that you
>> may be pissed demands any courtesy at all.
>
> starting to become only amusement value tobes.
~~~~~~~~~~
I see Toby has NO GUTS to drink the RAT POISON.

--
WottaBuckWheat

[Ext User(Just JT)]

"Spear and Magic Helmet" <speed_saves@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> Common sense tells you that there's no need if there's no-one around to
> see your indicator, but we're talking about LAW here.
~~~~~~~~~~~
But THE POLICE did see the NON-indication, so there's an infringement right
there.

--
TheseInterstateMaroonsShouldBeFined