"Stan Gifford" <stan_gifford@iinet.no.spam.please.iinet.net.au> wrote in
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> Patrick Young <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU> wrote:
>> In article
>> <4439e5d5$0$503$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>,
>> D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au> writes:
>>
>>
>>>First I've heard of that and I got my license in Vic in 1970.
>>>You must indicate in that situation, if the copper was in a bad mood he
>>>could of given you a fine so consider youself lucky.
>>
>>
>> Yep, don't think it would been too hard to indicate. The same hand
>> that does the steering can manage it while making the turn (oops,
>> was that in right hand indicator stalks only? :-p )
>>
>> My biggest problem with indicators is using them to indicate starting
>> up from side of road, the meaning is not clear as to "don't move infront
>> of me to hook into the next side street", or "I'm starting moving _AND_
>> am
>> wanting changing lanes". The 2nd of which is a more likely case, so you
>> end up slowing/stopping for bussen, etc that have no intention of
>> changing
>> lanes in some cases, so just end pissing yourself orf and everyone behind
>> you.
>>
>
> I have noticed something recently with RBT's and wonder if Shane would
> like to comment - this is NSW!
>
> (Actually two things - one being a rebutal to something Shane mentioned
> about the care in which police set up RBT's).
>
> 1. Twice recently I have been pulled over for RBT - however the Random
> BREATH test also included;
>
> - License Check
> - Rego check
> - Tyre check
> - seatbelt check - or an optic at the occupants of the car which were
> myself, wife and 11 yr old daughter.
Nothing unusal about that when it's quiet.
>
> Someone exceeding the spirit of a breath check - would this be (Windsor)
> Local command initiative or State Gov't urging more revenue to be
> collected.
I have no idea why you guys persist in suggesting that cops have any
interest in raising revenue. We don't get one red cent of it and there's
never been any direction that I'm aware of at *any* level of policing to do
just that. The commander at your local station more than likely wouldn't
have known that the local police check these things. BTW, most people I
speak to about doing these additional checks usually say something along the
lines of, "it's about time you guys started checking these things". So
you're suggesting that cops shouldn't checks these kind of things? Lets see,
drivers that are disqualified, cancelled or suspended don't pose a risk to
other road users? Unregistered vehicles aren't an issue because those who
drive them have lots of money should anything untoward happen to your car
and a quick check for defects such as tyres with steel belts showing through
shouldn't be encouraged either.
>
> And before the misinterpretations start - I support getting pissed drivers
> off the road!
But everything else is perfectly ok to continue through? :))))))
Tell me this, if a car ran straight into the side of your vehicle because
the tyres were bald and he lost control, turns out he was disqualified and
his car was unregistered AND he was stopped minutes earlier at RBT and
allowed to drive off what would you be saying in this NG? Cops can't win in
here.
>
> 2nd thing requires knowledge of the area. Old Windsor road at Northmead
> where it sweeps left around into Briens road. As you go around the corner,
> on the right is Redbank Road (WHich I had to turn into when I lived in the
> area).
>
> The RBT was set up right on the corner - when I was moving into the right
> hand lane to turn right. Got ticked off for poor eyesight for not noticing
> the 'wet behind the ears' copper who indicated from the left of three
> lanes to me who was in a moving into right lane manouver.
All stationary RBT locations have to comply with strict workcover laws
pertaining to safety. They have been selected by traffic police and
adjudicated to be within the guidelines before it's approved for use. They
have to be properly lit, have ample visibility for oncoming traffic (this is
worked out by a formula distance over time) and have enough runoff area for
us to compete our duties. There are a number of other guidelines that it has
to comply with but I'm not going to discuss them here. BTW, how do you know
the cop was wet behind the ears and even if he was, why didn't you comply
with the direction that so many other vehicles did before and after you
left? Perhaps it was you that made a simple task difficult? Also, whatever
happen to people driving at a speed or alertness level whereby they can come
to a complete stop if required in an emergency?
BTW, vehicles moving from the left lane to the right just before an RBT
location are ALWAYS stopped.........it's not hard to work out why.
>
> I will state that I have never seen such a stupid set up since......
That same stupid set up complies with workcover laws. I wish workcover laws
operated the same way with drivers who don't concentrate on what they're
doing.
Shane