Are the Police Scared of Bikies?

[Ext User(tipsy@beerlover.com)]

A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me today and I couldn't help
but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets with them, but didn't wear
them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!

Some of the bikes were clearly unroadworthy with respect to noise levels.

There was a Police escort for this procession, with both marked and unmarked cars, yet the flagrant
breaking of the traffic laws was allowed to continue.

Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher above to leave these non
conformist people alone?

I must add that it was a very impressive sight to see upwards of 300 bikes leading the procession.

[Ext User(D Walford)]

tipsy@beerlover.com wrote:
> A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me today and I couldn't help
> but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets with them, but didn't wear
> them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!
>
> Some of the bikes were clearly unroadworthy with respect to noise levels.
>
> There was a Police escort for this procession, with both marked and unmarked cars, yet the flagrant
> breaking of the traffic laws was allowed to continue.
>
> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher above to leave these non
> conformist people alone?
>
> I must add that it was a very impressive sight to see upwards of 300 bikes leading the procession.

I'd say they were told to leave them alone, IMO there would be nothing
gained by harrassing them.
It could also be that there is some ancient law governing funerals which
allows them some freedoms, eg I was told by a funeral director that
its against the law to not give way to a funeral proccession and even if
it isn't law a bit of respect for the recently dead, their grieving
relatives and friends is a good thing.


Daryl

[Ext User(David Z)]

There are some rules that just aren't worth enforcing. In the US, traffic
on freeways regularly travels at 130 km/h, even though the speed limits are
usually around 100. The police also travel at this speed and it would rare
if you saw them book anyone.

<tipsy@beerlover.com> wrote in message
news:pr21521nhf69nc94vf4vepb44a1l8eand6@4ax.com...
>A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me
>today and I couldn't help
> but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets
> with them, but didn't wear
> them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!
>
> Some of the bikes were clearly unroadworthy with respect to noise levels.
>
> There was a Police escort for this procession, with both marked and
> unmarked cars, yet the flagrant
> breaking of the traffic laws was allowed to continue.
>
> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher
> above to leave these non
> conformist people alone?
>
> I must add that it was a very impressive sight to see upwards of 300 bikes
> leading the procession.

[Ext User(David Z)]

"D Walford" <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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> tipsy@beerlover.com wrote:
>> A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me
>> today and I couldn't help
>> but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets
>> with them, but didn't wear
>> them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!
>>
>> Some of the bikes were clearly unroadworthy with respect to noise levels.
>> There was a Police escort for this procession, with both marked and
>> unmarked cars, yet the flagrant
>> breaking of the traffic laws was allowed to continue.
>>
>> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher
>> above to leave these non
>> conformist people alone?
>>
>> I must add that it was a very impressive sight to see upwards of 300
>> bikes leading the procession.
>
> I'd say they were told to leave them alone, IMO there would be nothing
> gained by harrassing them.
> It could also be that there is some ancient law governing funerals which
> allows them some freedoms, eg I was told by a funeral director that its
> against the law to not give way to a funeral proccession and even if it
> isn't law a bit of respect for the recently dead, their grieving relatives
> and friends is a good thing.

This is true. There's no law that says corpses don't have to wear seatbelts
either, but I think the cops usually let them off the hook.

[Ext User(Uncle Bully)]

<tipsy@beerlover.com> wrote in message
news:pr21521nhf69nc94vf4vepb44a1l8eand6@4ax.com...
>A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me
>today and I couldn't help
> but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets
> with them, but didn't wear
> them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!
>
> Some of the bikes were clearly unroadworthy with respect to noise levels.
>
> There was a Police escort for this procession, with both marked and
> unmarked cars, yet the flagrant
> breaking of the traffic laws was allowed to continue.
>
> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher
> above to leave these non
> conformist people alone?

Police and gangs tend to have an understanding where as long as the gangs
aren't harrassing the general public they are left alone. It works out best
for all concerned.


>
> I must add that it was a very impressive sight to see upwards of 300 bikes
> leading the procession.

[Ext User(The Raven)]

<tipsy@beerlover.com> wrote in message
news:pr21521nhf69nc94vf4vepb44a1l8eand6@4ax.com...
>A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me
>today and I couldn't help
> but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets
> with them, but didn't wear
> them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!

Sounds like a biker funeral procession.

> Some of the bikes were clearly unroadworthy with respect to noise levels.

As are quite a lot of cars with Milo tin mufflers.

> There was a Police escort for this procession, with both marked and
> unmarked cars, yet the flagrant
> breaking of the traffic laws was allowed to continue.

Sounds like a funeral procession then.

> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher
> above to leave these non
> conformist people alone?

It's a bit of give and take. Cops giving bikers a bit of lee way often
yields a big jump in respect by most gangs.

> I must add that it was a very impressive sight to see upwards of 300 bikes
> leading the procession.


--
The Raven
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
** Now I will bring chaos to the world!

[Ext User(GK)]

<tipsy@beerlover.com> wrote in message
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> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher
above to leave these non
> conformist people alone?


Last year there was a bike funeral procession here in WA... special
exemption was granted to the procession, permitting participants to ride
without helmets. From memory, some pinion passengers were also permitted to
drink alcohol whilst riding (this is an offence, under the Liquor Licensing
Act).

Personally, I don't agree with such special "exemptions", and I feel that
the bulk of the general public would feel the same way.


g

[Ext User(The Raven)]

<tipsy@beerlover.com> wrote in message
news:pr21521nhf69nc94vf4vepb44a1l8eand6@4ax.com...
>A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me
>today and I couldn't help
> but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets
> with them, but didn't wear
> them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!
>
> Some of the bikes were clearly unroadworthy with respect to noise levels.
>
> There was a Police escort for this procession, with both marked and
> unmarked cars, yet the flagrant
> breaking of the traffic laws was allowed to continue.
>
> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher
> above to leave these non
> conformist people alone?
>
> I must add that it was a very impressive sight to see upwards of 300 bikes
> leading the procession.
A BANDIDOS mourner at the funeral of slain Sydney chapter leader Rodney Monk
has called for an end to bikie violence.
Hundreds farewelled Mr Monk, 32 - including rival gang members - at the St
Gerard Majella Catholic Church in Sydney's northwest today.
The congregation heard eulogies from bikies and Mr Monk's brother, New South
Wales police officer Brad Monk, as well as his girlfriend, Stephanie Roman.

Outside the church, Bandidos bikie Arthur Loveday described Mr Monk as a man
"with a touch of royalty".

He said his death had shattered gang members and he appealed for an end to
violence.

"He was a sensitive new-age biker with a touch of royalty," he said.


"I was his protege.
"We need to put an end to this violence or it will destroy our future.

"We are all destroyed by his death."

Large numbers of mourners, including members from rival gangs and interstate
and overseas bikies, turned out to pay their last respects to Mr Monk, who
was gunned down in an East Sydney laneway last week.

Former Bandidos national sergeant-at-arms Russell Oldham, 39, is the chief
suspect in the murder, which police believe was sparked by a power struggle
within the gang.

Detectives attached to Strike Force Coombah, established to investigate the
murder, are searching for Oldham.

At the conclusion of the hour-long service, more than 100 Bandidos, most
riding without their crash helmets, followed Mr Monk's coffin towards the
cemetery.

Members from other gangs, including Nomads, Hell's Angels and God Squad
followed.

Mr Monk's coffin was carried on a Harley Davidson motorbike side-car and one
of the lead bikes in the cortege carried a large Bandidos flag.




--
The Raven
http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
** Now I will bring chaos to the world!

[Ext User(Shane)]

<tipsy@beerlover.com> wrote in message
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>A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me
>today and I couldn't help
> but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets
> with them, but didn't wear
> them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!

So you'd like the cops to start booking people at a funeral?

>
> Some of the bikes were clearly unroadworthy with respect to noise levels.

As are many cars.

>
> There was a Police escort for this procession, with both marked and
> unmarked cars, yet the flagrant
> breaking of the traffic laws was allowed to continue.

As there is with most police escorted funeral processions. Red lights,
unsafe following distances between vehicles and disobeying stop signs while
under escort etc.

>
> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher
> above to leave these non
> conformist people alone?

As much as the police would like to do something, it's a funeral.

>
> I must add that it was a very impressive sight to see upwards of 300 bikes
> leading the procession.

The rules would have been spelt out to them before they started. Nothing
dangerous or else.

[Ext User(David Springthorpe)]

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:55:09 +1000, "Uncle Bully"
<wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:

>Police and gangs tend to have an understanding where as long as the gangs
>aren't harrassing the general public they are left alone. It works out best
>for all concerned.

And lets the cops get their commission from bikie drug sales.....

[Ext User(the fonz)]

I was told once any single police patrol is under standing instructions
not to try and pull over a fleet of bikies. Apart from the obvious
difficulty in one patrol pulling over 50 bikes, there may also be
potential OH&S issues.

I would further imagine turning up to a bikie funeral with a battalion
of glowering police would also not be a very good idea.

[Ext User(FuTAnT)]

"Shane" <shane062@internode.on.net> wrote in message
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>
> <tipsy@beerlover.com> wrote in message
> news:pr21521nhf69nc94vf4vepb44a1l8eand6@4ax.com...
>>A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me
>>today and I couldn't help
>> but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets
>> with them, but didn't wear
>> them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!
>
> So you'd like the cops to start booking people at a funeral?
>

It happened not so long ago at a particular funeral I was attending. They
know no shame.

[Ext User(Knobdoodle)]

"FuTAnT" <blah@blah.com> wrote:
> "Shane" <shane062@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> So you'd like the cops to start booking people at a funeral?
>>
> It happened not so long ago at a particular funeral I was attending. They
> know no shame.
Yep; I was thinking of that one too but I guess that wasn't TECHNICALLY the
funeral procession.....
--
Knob
(still a cuntact though!)

[Ext User(reg-john)]

"David Springthorpe" <david.springthorpe@idx.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:55:09 +1000, "Uncle Bully"
> <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote:
>
>>Police and gangs tend to have an understanding where as long as the gangs
>>aren't harrassing the general public they are left alone. It works out
>>best
>>for all concerned.
>
> And lets the cops get their commission from bikie drug sales.....

nice and cynical.

[Ext User(Bugalugs)]

tipsy@beerlover.com wrote:
> A large bikie funeral procession (the Bandido one in Sydney) went past me today and I couldn't help
> but notice that most of the riders rode sans helmet. Some had helmets with them, but didn't wear
> them. One even had his helmet strapped to his arm!
>
> Some of the bikes were clearly unroadworthy with respect to noise levels.
>
> There was a Police escort for this procession, with both marked and unmarked cars, yet the flagrant
> breaking of the traffic laws was allowed to continue.
>
> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from higher above to leave these non
> conformist people alone?
>
> I must add that it was a very impressive sight to see upwards of 300 bikes leading the procession.


And I take it you are willing to step out in front of them, wave them
all over, and start writing out tickets.

Let me know when and where so I can go out, put up a grandstand, and
sell tickets.

[Ext User(ant)]

tipsy@beerlover.com wrote:
> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from
> higher above to leave these non conformist people alone?

I've asked repeatedly why they don't do something about those horrible
noisy (noise-enhanced) bikes they ride. People with crappy little cars who
get a hole in their exhaust get monstered, yet these clowns are free to
shatter everyone's eardrums.

The answers I've got amount to "because they wouldn't comply and it's too
much trouble". bugger that!


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[Ext User(ant)]

GK wrote:

> Personally, I don't agree with such special "exemptions", and I feel
> that the bulk of the general public would feel the same way.

yeah, stuff them. Exemptions my arse.

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"ant" <linda_kone56@mail.ru> wrote in message
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> tipsy@beerlover.com wrote:
>> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from
>> higher above to leave these non conformist people alone?
>
> I've asked repeatedly why they don't do something about those horrible
> noisy (noise-enhanced) bikes they ride. People with crappy little cars who
> get a hole in their exhaust get monstered, yet these clowns are free to
> shatter everyone's eardrums.
>
> The answers I've got amount to "because they wouldn't comply and it's too
> much trouble". bugger that!
>
>
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>
>

They do give them grief, but only when in singular or pairs etc, not as a
large group. They give sports bikes plenty of curry as well.

[Ext User(Spooky)]

"the fonz" <arthur.fonzzarelli@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I was told once any single police patrol is under standing instructions
> not to try and pull over a fleet of bikies. Apart from the obvious

Not true for NSW, at all.

Spooky

[Ext User(Spooky)]

"ant" <linda_kone56@mail.ru> wrote in message
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> tipsy@beerlover.com wrote:
>> Are the Police scared of these people or has the word come from
>> higher above to leave these non conformist people alone?
>
> I've asked repeatedly why they don't do something about those horrible
> noisy (noise-enhanced) bikes they ride. People with crappy little cars who
> get a hole in their exhaust get monstered, yet these clowns are free to
> shatter everyone's eardrums.

We most certainly do target these bikes for noise compliance
as much as we do cars with milo tins. You should see our EPA
operations that are conducted regularly. Bikes occupy just as
much of the EPA attention as the cars do.

Spooky