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Ext User(Charlie)
06-05-2006, 06:43 PM
We sold our old van today. It is currently registered for another
couple months, but I couldn't find the papers. So I signed the back
of some old 2003 rego papers for the same car that (which
unfortunately lists our old license plate numbers - those plates got
damaged, so I had to get them changed), and gave him the car, and took
the money.

I suspect when I call the RTA on Monday that they will say the
transaction wasn't valid, and that both parties will have to come in
to the RTA office and jointly sign some other document.

I don't think anything bad can happen, because I have the money, and
if anything, legally he has 'my' car as its still in my name. I'm
keeping it fully insured until this is sorted out.

So, what do you think will happen?

Ext User(Casper)
06-05-2006, 06:53 PM
"Charlie" <judoman@aapt.nREMOVEet.au> wrote in message
news:aeno52hkbjtlpk5ma9hkfcbj6423ojme90@4ax.com...
> We sold our old van today. It is currently registered for another
> couple months, but I couldn't find the papers. So I signed the back
> of some old 2003 rego papers for the same car that (which
> unfortunately lists our old license plate numbers - those plates got
> damaged, so I had to get them changed), and gave him the car, and took
> the money.
>
> I suspect when I call the RTA on Monday that they will say the
> transaction wasn't valid, and that both parties will have to come in
> to the RTA office and jointly sign some other document.
>
> I don't think anything bad can happen, because I have the money, and
> if anything, legally he has 'my' car as its still in my name. I'm
> keeping it fully insured until this is sorted out.

You saw his license ? Recorded the details ?

> So, what do you think will happen?

Speed Camera ++ and Red light Camera ++

:)


Nah, she'll be right - but DO ring RTA monday.

Ext User(yoko.guruma@gmail.com)
06-05-2006, 07:33 PM
Casper wrote:
> "Charlie" <judoman@aapt.nREMOVEet.au> wrote in message
> news:aeno52hkbjtlpk5ma9hkfcbj6423ojme90@4ax.com...
> > We sold our old van today. It is currently registered for another
> > couple months, but I couldn't find the papers. So I signed the back
> > of some old 2003 rego papers for the same car that (which
> > unfortunately lists our old license plate numbers - those plates got
> > damaged, so I had to get them changed), and gave him the car, and took
> > the money.
> >
> > I suspect when I call the RTA on Monday that they will say the
> > transaction wasn't valid, and that both parties will have to come in
> > to the RTA office and jointly sign some other document.
> >
> > I don't think anything bad can happen, because I have the money, and
> > if anything, legally he has 'my' car as its still in my name. I'm
> > keeping it fully insured until this is sorted out.
>
> You saw his license ? Recorded the details ?

d'oh! Saw his license from a distance as he used it to fill out the
back of the old RTA rego-sales-form, but i didn't look closely to
record any details.

He gave me his name, address and phone numbers though (and I gave him
my phone numbers) so that we could co-ordinate a visit to the RTA on
Monday if necessary.

I recall now he did say that he wanted to transfer it to QLD
registration, if that has any bearing on this matter.

I'm hoping that when he submits the fom, the newer details will simply
pop up on their computer, seeing as the my name & engine-details etc
are still on the system currently.

> > So, what do you think will happen?
>
> Speed Camera ++ and Red light Camera ++
>
> :)

Ahh!! geez I hope not, lol. He seemed like a decent fellow though, an
older guy going back to Uni

> Nah, she'll be right - but DO ring RTA monday.

most definitely, thanks!

-Charlie (OP)

Ext User(mark jb)
06-05-2006, 11:03 PM
>> You saw his license ? Recorded the details ?
>
> d'oh! Saw his license from a distance as he used it to fill out the
> back of the old RTA rego-sales-form, but i didn't look closely to
> record any details.

Fool.

-mark

Ext User(yoko.guruma@gmail.com)
07-05-2006, 01:13 AM
Yeah, probably. But it comforts me that at least I'm not a dickhead

Ext User(athol)
07-05-2006, 09:53 AM
Charlie <judoman@aapt.nremoveet.au> wrote:

> I suspect when I call the RTA on Monday that they will say the
> transaction wasn't valid, and that both parties will have to come in
> to the RTA office and jointly sign some other document.

Not neccessary for both to attend simultaneously, but _you_ have to
fill out a "notice of disposal" (including writing _his_ licence number
on it) and submit that to the RTA so that they will have a record of
you disposing of it.

There is a notice of disposal slip built into rego papers. The papers
come with 2 perforatd lines - the top section has the sticker, the
bottom section is the certificate of registration and the middle bit is
the notice of disposal (on the back).

If you have thrown away the notice of disposal from the rego papers,
you can also get one at the registry or download one IIRC. If you gave
the guy the notice of disposal with the certificate of registration, it
is important that _you_ submit one at a registry in case the buyer
never submits it...

When I sold a car to a dealer (outright), I went to the local registry
and explained that I didn't know their dealer's licence number and the
staff there happily looked it up and wrote it on the form.

> I don't think anything bad can happen, because I have the money, and
> if anything, legally he has 'my' car as its still in my name. I'm
> keeping it fully insured until this is sorted out.

Until _you_ have filed a notice of disposal, you're liable for every
infringement. The notice of disposal has a date and *time* of sale on
it, and you should submit the notice of disposal on the first
practicable opportunity after sale.

When I bought a car privately (the same one that I later dumped on a
dealer), I was coming out of the registry as the people that I bought
it from were going in to file their notice of disposal. I fluked that
and consequently managed to get the PIN code for the radio - the wife
was carrying the card in her purse. :-)

--
Athol
<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
The state of infrastructure in New South Wales is a disgrace.
I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

Ext User(Kev)
08-05-2006, 12:23 AM
>
> I recall now he did say that he wanted to transfer it to QLD
> registration, if that has any bearing on this matter.


In that case he will need current rego papers signed as he will have to
de-register it and register it in QLD


Kev

Ext User(yoko.guruma@gmail.com)
08-05-2006, 01:53 PM
All taken care of and went well, thanks everybody.

Charlie

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