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Ext User(Brian)
07-05-2006, 02:33 PM
Hi,
I am ready to purchase a new TV, as our CRT has finally given up.
I have noticed in the new Radio Rentals catologue, they have the SD 42"
Plasma LG for $1999.
At Harvey Norman they have a BenQ 37" LCD, 1920X1080 res, 8ms, for $2798,
with a 5 year warranty.
They also have the LG SD Plasma with inbuilt HD tuner for $2687.

I have been looking around for quite a while now, and it's driving me nuts
with all the different brands, resolution, HD, SD, etc. etc. I just want to
buy something that works well, and is good value for money.
Can anyone suggest which one of these would be the best, or any other one
that might be of interest?

Thanks
Brian

Ext User(Anthony Horan)
07-05-2006, 03:23 PM
On Sun, 7 May 2006 13:23:27 +0930, Brian wrote:

> I have noticed in the new Radio Rentals catologue, they have the SD 42"
> Plasma LG for $1999.

New - or ex-rental? Beware.

Ext User(Brian)
07-05-2006, 03:53 PM
These are brand new.
"Anthony Horan" <anthonyhoran@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ty2ii9nbezpr$.16tnliiuejwqi.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 7 May 2006 13:23:27 +0930, Brian wrote:
>
>> I have noticed in the new Radio Rentals catologue, they have the SD 42"
>> Plasma LG for $1999.
>
> New - or ex-rental? Beware.
>

Ext User(georgiarose)
07-05-2006, 05:33 PM
"Brian" <bnjo@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:125qrpp5lv92r57@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi,
> I am ready to purchase a new TV, as our CRT has finally given up.
> I have noticed in the new Radio Rentals catologue, they have the SD 42"
> Plasma LG for $1999.
> At Harvey Norman they have a BenQ 37" LCD, 1920X1080 res, 8ms, for $2798,
> with a 5 year warranty.
> They also have the LG SD Plasma with inbuilt HD tuner for $2687.
>
> I have been looking around for quite a while now, and it's driving me nuts
> with all the different brands, resolution, HD, SD, etc. etc. I just want
> to buy something that works well, and is good value for money.
> Can anyone suggest which one of these would be the best, or any other one
> that might be of interest?
>
> Thanks
> Brian
>

If you do decided to go LG plasma, you will find probably the best price and
service from http://www.qsphere.com.au/

Ext User(Baz)
08-05-2006, 10:13 AM
"Brian" <bnjo@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:125qrpp5lv92r57@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi,
> I am ready to purchase a new TV, as our CRT has finally given up.
> I have noticed in the new Radio Rentals catologue, they have the SD 42"
> Plasma LG for $1999.
> At Harvey Norman they have a BenQ 37" LCD, 1920X1080 res, 8ms, for $2798,
> with a 5 year warranty.
> They also have the LG SD Plasma with inbuilt HD tuner for $2687.
>
> I have been looking around for quite a while now, and it's driving me nuts
> with all the different brands, resolution, HD, SD, etc. etc. I just want
> to buy something that works well, and is good value for money.
> Can anyone suggest which one of these would be the best, or any other one
> that might be of interest?
>
> Thanks
> Brian

http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/plasma-vs-lcd.html

Ext User(tgr@ansto.gov.au)
08-05-2006, 01:43 PM
I Believe Plasma is better then LCD.
The LCD refresh rate isn't as high which can make the image look jerky.
HD is a lot more expensive, but the picture quality is a lot better. I
would go for the HD as a lot of programs are supporting HD now.

Shadow12
08-05-2006, 01:50 PM
Brian
I was like you, i too went to many different stores, However I had my heart on a Plasma as they have got a lot better over the past few years. plus the size I purchased a LG 50" Hi Deffinition with the tuner in it this is a great benefit as i wanted eliminate as many boxes and remotes as i could.

The LCDs are very nice and great on a smaller screen but if you want a larger screen 50 or 60 it will cost you.

Most Stores will play the daily transmission by 10 (i think its 10) its a digital Hi Definition broadcast of arial shots of famous landmark around australia and the world, this will be broadcast to all the TV's in the store. It will give you a really good idea of what the other plasmas are like, as well as the LCDs.
I couldnt find much between the Plasma's except the Analogue was of less quality than the HD.

So i made up my mind of the LG50" Hi Def. plus i also purchased a LG DVD/HDD
I got rid of my VCR for ever and old DVD player which was like a big silver brick and the new LG DVD/HDD is slim line, in fact we have recorded a few programs since and found it very good just to record to the Hard Drive and delete when not needed.

I purchased my Plasma in Myers, they had a Sale on with a 10% discount plus if you signed up for and GE Store card you received another 10% on one purchase only (check to see if this is still on) this was used on the plasma, i alos got another 5% off as my daughter works for Target a Coles/Myers business( so if you know of any one that works for CM youll get a staff discount) So after al of that I payed $4600. Plus LG is giving away Cash back Myer vouchers up until 12th May as a promotion, so it realy cost $4300. pluss all those frequint flyers points.. $100.

Am i impressed with the LG ...you bet I think it an underrated brand, eg Sony !! dont even make plasma screens, they have them made for them. LG is an original equipment manufacturer, it all black and it looks real smart and the Hi deff broad cast is super clear, watching the footy is magic you can see the sweat rolling down the faces on the close ups.

Any way good luck ...it theres is any spelling mistake sorry couldnt be bothered to spell check

Mark

Ext User(fredmondbr@yahoo.com.au)
08-05-2006, 05:43 PM
They also have the LG SD Plasma with inbuilt HD tuner for $2687.

Whats the point of having a standard definition plasma with a high
definition tuner?, doesn't make sense.

Standard definition is less resolution than your garden variety crt tv,
by buying one you would be going backwards.
We are getting a lot of plasma's in for service, screen replacments are
common practice, many unsatisfied customers with various complaints,
and understandably so, when you pay what they were worth 12 months ago
you would get riled when things dont work, popped pixels are a common
topic, have a look at the warranty In regard to popped pixels.

On the other hand we rarely get lcd's in.
Dont listen to anyone about brands, all they are trying to do is
justify their own selection, many sets use other manufacturers parts,
so saying that x is better than y is bullshit.
Rather look at the resolution, refresh rate,etc,
Early lcd's did suffer smear in fast action scenes however 8milli
seconds or better is a substantial refresh rate.
Lcd's are dropping rapidly in price and rumour has it that they will
bottom out by christmas, so If you buy one now and then see it 4 mths
later for half the price......
By the way these two formats will be superseeded by a new technology
already in it's advanced stage of development, however we wont see em
in oz for at least another 3 years.

Shadow12
08-05-2006, 06:16 PM
They also have the LG SD Plasma with inbuilt HD tuner for $2687.

Whats the point of having a standard definition plasma with a high
definition tuner?, doesn't make sense.

Standard definition is less resolution than your garden variety crt tv,
by buying one you would be going backwards.
We are getting a lot of plasma's in for service, screen replacments are
common practice, many unsatisfied customers with various complaints,
and understandably so, when you pay what they were worth 12 months ago
you would get riled when things dont work, popped pixels are a common
topic, have a look at the warranty In regard to popped pixels.

On the other hand we rarely get lcd's in.
Dont listen to anyone about brands, all they are trying to do is
justify their own selection, many sets use other manufacturers parts,
so saying that x is better than y is bullshit.
Rather look at the resolution, refresh rate,etc,
Early lcd's did suffer smear in fast action scenes however 8milli
seconds or better is a substantial refresh rate.
Lcd's are dropping rapidly in price and rumour has it that they will
bottom out by christmas, so If you buy one now and then see it 4 mths
later for half the price......
By the way these two formats will be superseeded by a new technology
already in it's advanced stage of development, however we wont see em
in oz for at least another 3 years.

Interseting point this guy makes he obviously repairs them ..i agree SD with HD tuner ??

I chose LG ....but some guys i know were saying Sony were better, Panasonic, they dont have plasma just rear projection.

Ext User(Anthony Horan)
08-05-2006, 09:23 PM
On Mon, 8 May 2006 13:50:25 +1000, Shadow12 wrote:

> Most Stores will play the daily transmission by 10 (i think its 10) its
> a digital Hi Definition broadcast of arial shots of famous landmark
> around australia and the world, this will be broadcast to all the TV's
> in the store. It will give you a really good idea of what the other
> plasmas are like, as well as the LCDs.

The only HD demo loop currently being played in the one on Seven - which
isn't actually high definition, having only 720x576p resolution.

Ext User(Anthony Horan)
08-05-2006, 09:23 PM
On 7 May 2006 18:47:40 -0700, tgr@ansto.gov.au wrote:

> I Believe Plasma is better then LCD.
> The LCD refresh rate isn't as high which can make the image look jerky.

An 8ms refresh rate should be ample for broadcast television. Think about
it; 50 fields/frames per second; 1 second divided by 50 = 20ms per
field/frame.

Certainly on my family's Panasonic LCD I see no blurring or jerkiness at
all.

Shadow12
09-05-2006, 01:00 PM
On Mon, 8 May 2006 13:50:25 +1000, Shadow12 wrote:

> Most Stores will play the daily transmission by 10 (i think its 10) its
> a digital Hi Definition broadcast of arial shots of famous landmark
> around australia and the world, this will be broadcast to all the TV's
> in the store. It will give you a really good idea of what the other
> plasmas are like, as well as the LCDs.

The only HD demo loop currently being played in the one on Seven - which
isn't actually high definition, having only 720x576p resolution.

This may be true,it is on 7 and goes for 20 minutes its on Channel 70. However to analyise Plasma and LCD prior to purchase i found very useful.

Shadow12
09-05-2006, 01:09 PM
On 7 May 2006 18:47:40 -0700, tgr@ansto.gov.au wrote:

> I Believe Plasma is better then LCD.
> The LCD refresh rate isn't as high which can make the image look jerky.

An 8ms refresh rate should be ample for broadcast television. Think about
it; 50 fields/frames per second; 1 second divided by 50 = 20ms per
field/frame.

Certainly on my family's Panasonic LCD I see no blurring or jerkiness at
all.

I watched Footy on my plasma HiDef on the weekend and it was brilliant, went round my friends place for a BBQ the next day and we watched the footy on his LCD, it was crap, there is defintley somthing to the refresh rate, so what this guy is on about he obviuosly does not have a plasma. Its like RAM and Memory on a PC you just cant get enough....The more the refresh rate the better the picture, (when it comes to Sport) Cant wait for Bathurst -VVVV8 to see just how good it will be.

Ext User(Krusty)
10-05-2006, 07:23 AM
"Brian" <bnjo@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:125qrpp5lv92r57@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi,
> I am ready to purchase a new TV, as our CRT has finally given up.

Brian,

I think it relates to whatever one has! That is it's the, "mine's better
than yours" syndrome. Whichever way you go & depending on the price paid
(quality) then I'm sure you will be happy with your final choice. We went
with an LCD (Sharp Aquos 105cm), expensive but fantastic. You also need to
carefully consider your STB or PVR as the quality of it is probably a far
more important decision.

mddawson
10-05-2006, 08:18 AM
One thing to keep in mind is that so called SD plasma TVs are in fact NTSC format and therefore low definition when compared to SD PAL. Personally I would keep an eye out for a HD LG plasma with inbuilt HD tuner. Something like this will keep you happy for many years.

Ext User(nopderbeck@hotmail.com)
15-05-2006, 08:03 AM
Having recently gone through this struggle myself, I'll warn out
against one Plasma problem that wasn't heavily advertised to me. My
biggest dissapointment with my Samsung 42" was the rather poor quality
of non-HD programming. Everything you see in the store is connected to
digital and/or HD signals. This hides the poor viewing of non-HD
channels. Unfortunately, since we live by Tivo in my house, almost all
of our programming is non-HD until I decide to splurge on an
HD-Tivo..which is still fairly expensive! Good luck.

Ext User(Ben Thomas)
16-05-2006, 07:35 PM
nopderbeck@hotmail.com wrote:

>Having recently gone through this struggle myself, I'll warn out
>against one Plasma problem that wasn't heavily advertised to me. My
>biggest dissapointment with my Samsung 42" was the rather poor quality
>of non-HD programming. Everything you see in the store is connected to
>digital and/or HD signals. This hides the poor viewing of non-HD
>channels. Unfortunately, since we live by Tivo in my house, almost all
>of our programming is non-HD until I decide to splurge on an
>HD-Tivo..which is still fairly expensive! Good luck.
>
>
>
HD does look very good, but I find SD is very good too. It is noticably
better than the analog broadcast.

--
Ben Thomas, Melbourne, Australia

"Red Bull tastes like canned carbonated concentrated evil."

Ext User(Mike)
16-05-2006, 07:35 PM
nopderbeck@hotmail.com wrote:
> Having recently gone through this struggle myself, I'll warn out
> against one Plasma problem that wasn't heavily advertised to me. My
> biggest dissapointment with my Samsung 42" was the rather poor quality
> of non-HD programming. Everything you see in the store is connected to
> digital and/or HD signals. This hides the poor viewing of non-HD
> channels. Unfortunately, since we live by Tivo in my house, almost all

Tivo? inches? and a US posting host.
Are you talking about American NTSC TV? No wonder it looks bad.
Australian digital SD is much better than that, provided the source
media is good. How do DVD's look? Oz SD should be the same.

But in normal language, "poor quality of programming" would refer to
the glut or reality-TV and other trashy content, which doesn't look
any better in HD.

> of our programming is non-HD until I decide to splurge on an
> HD-Tivo..which is still fairly expensive! Good luck.
>

Ext User(Mike)
16-05-2006, 07:35 PM
Ben Thomas wrote:
> HD does look very good, but I find SD is very good too. It is noticably
> better than the analog broadcast.

In what way?
It is for me because of poor reception, but in ideal reception
conditions, analog has more resolution (horizontally, in theory)
and lacks mpeg artifacts.
But its a lot easier to time-shift with high quality in digital!

Ext User(Ben Thomas)
17-05-2006, 08:33 AM
Mike wrote:

> Ben Thomas wrote:
>
>> HD does look very good, but I find SD is very good too. It is
>> noticably better than the analog broadcast.
>
>
> In what way?
> It is for me because of poor reception, but in ideal reception
> conditions, analog has more resolution (horizontally, in theory)
> and lacks mpeg artifacts.
> But its a lot easier to time-shift with high quality in digital!

I have a decent antenna with line of sight to the main Vic transmitters
and analog is a bit grainy, whereas digital SD is crystal clear. I very
rarely see mpeg artifacts.

--
Ben Thomas, Melbourne, Australia

"Red Bull tastes like canned carbonated concentrated evil."