Re: Telstra increases Homeline Part Rental by $5 on 1 Dec 2005

[Ext User(Kralizec Craig)]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> writes:

>> It's win-win for the telco's and nothing but losses for consumers.

>Mindless stuff. Without viable telco revenues there is no telco and even
>someone as stupid as you should have noticed the downsides of that.

And even someone as stupid as Rod 'Chemical Man' Speed should know that
Telco's are laughing all the way to the Banque (tm) by forcing consumers
over the mobile comms services because the cost to provide those services is
less than for fixed-line services.

Telstra's marketting people would deny they're forcing people to move away
from fixed-line services and simply say that they're 'encouraging' consumers
to 'adopt the new technologies'. That's fine, but they should not jack up
the cost of the fixed services just because of a flawed argument put to the
ACCC saying they can't offered fixed lines for anything less than about $30
a month, then steadily put up the costs to justify the basis of their flawed
argument.

It's predatory but clearly in Australia it's ok for Telco's to behave in
that way when we should have comms services that are much cheaper, provide
better quality (not necessarily more features), and give better choice and
availability to customers. The middle one of those three is about the only
one we're seeing in the Australia telco market at present.

Regards,

Craig.
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[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> writes

>>> It's win-win for the telco's and nothing but losses for consumers.

>> Mindless stuff. Without viable telco revenues
>> there is no telco and even someone as stupid
>> as you should have noticed the downsides of that.

> And even someone as stupid as Rod 'Chemical Man' Speed should
> know that Telco's are laughing all the way to the Banque (tm)

There's only one that makes decent profits, stupid.

> by forcing consumers over the mobile comms services

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

> because the cost to provide those services
> is less than for fixed-line services.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
have never ever had a fucking clue and why the best
you have ever been able to manage is train driver.

> Telstra's marketting people would deny they're
> forcing people to move away from fixed-line services

And that is just your pig ignorant lie.

In spades with those who want a decent internet service.

> and simply say that they're 'encouraging'
> consumers to 'adopt the new technologies'.

And they do that by charging less for adsl than for dialup
if you use the net much, USING THAT FIXED LINE, fuckwit.

> That's fine, but they should not jack up the cost of the fixed services
> just because of a flawed argument put to the ACCC saying they can't
> offered fixed lines for anything less than about $30 a month, then
> steadily put up the costs to justify the basis of their flawed argument.

How odd that they managed to fool the ACCC on that.

And even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that
you dont even have to pay telstra more than $18.50 line rent.

> It's predatory

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

> but clearly in Australia it's ok for Telco's to behave in that
> way when we should have comms services that are much
> cheaper, provide better quality (not necessarily more
> features), and give better choice and availability to customers.

Anyone with a clue has all that.

> The middle one of those three is about the only one
> we're seeing in the Australia telco market at present.

Complete and utter pig ignorant pack of lies.

[Ext User(Stephen H)]

they are jacking up the price of line rental
because more people are starting to use voice over internet

TEL$TRA


"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3vi15uF15nf90U1@individual.net...
> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> writes
>
> >>> It's win-win for the telco's and nothing but losses for consumers.
>
> >> Mindless stuff. Without viable telco revenues
> >> there is no telco and even someone as stupid
> >> as you should have noticed the downsides of that.
>
> > And even someone as stupid as Rod 'Chemical Man' Speed should
> > know that Telco's are laughing all the way to the Banque (tm)
>
> There's only one that makes decent profits, stupid.
>
> > by forcing consumers over the mobile comms services
>
> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.
>
> > because the cost to provide those services
> > is less than for fixed-line services.
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
> have never ever had a fucking clue and why the best
> you have ever been able to manage is train driver.
>
> > Telstra's marketting people would deny they're
> > forcing people to move away from fixed-line services
>
> And that is just your pig ignorant lie.
>
> In spades with those who want a decent internet service.
>
> > and simply say that they're 'encouraging'
> > consumers to 'adopt the new technologies'.
>
> And they do that by charging less for adsl than for dialup
> if you use the net much, USING THAT FIXED LINE, fuckwit.
>
> > That's fine, but they should not jack up the cost of the fixed services
> > just because of a flawed argument put to the ACCC saying they can't
> > offered fixed lines for anything less than about $30 a month, then
> > steadily put up the costs to justify the basis of their flawed argument.
>
> How odd that they managed to fool the ACCC on that.
>
> And even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that
> you dont even have to pay telstra more than $18.50 line rent.
>
> > It's predatory
>
> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.
>
> > but clearly in Australia it's ok for Telco's to behave in that
> > way when we should have comms services that are much
> > cheaper, provide better quality (not necessarily more
> > features), and give better choice and availability to customers.
>
> Anyone with a clue has all that.
>
> > The middle one of those three is about the only one
> > we're seeing in the Australia telco market at present.
>
> Complete and utter pig ignorant pack of lies.
>
>

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Stephen H <sha61068@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> they are jacking up the price of line rental because
> more people are starting to use voice over internet

Nope, the jack up happened long before voip was used much.

> TEL$TRA

The mex has ordered the death squad for you.


> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3vi15uF15nf90U1@individual.net...
>> Kralizec Craig <cd@lios.apana.org.au> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> writes
>>
>>>>> It's win-win for the telco's and nothing but losses for consumers.
>>
>>>> Mindless stuff. Without viable telco revenues
>>>> there is no telco and even someone as stupid
>>>> as you should have noticed the downsides of that.
>>
>>> And even someone as stupid as Rod 'Chemical Man' Speed should
>>> know that Telco's are laughing all the way to the Banque (tm)
>>
>> There's only one that makes decent profits, stupid.
>>
>>> by forcing consumers over the mobile comms services
>>
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.
>>
>>> because the cost to provide those services
>>> is less than for fixed-line services.
>>
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you
>> have never ever had a fucking clue and why the best
>> you have ever been able to manage is train driver.
>>
>>> Telstra's marketting people would deny they're
>>> forcing people to move away from fixed-line services
>>
>> And that is just your pig ignorant lie.
>>
>> In spades with those who want a decent internet service.
>>
>>> and simply say that they're 'encouraging'
>>> consumers to 'adopt the new technologies'.
>>
>> And they do that by charging less for adsl than for dialup
>> if you use the net much, USING THAT FIXED LINE, fuckwit.
>>
>>> That's fine, but they should not jack up the cost of the fixed
>>> services just because of a flawed argument put to the ACCC saying
>>> they can't offered fixed lines for anything less than about $30 a
>>> month, then steadily put up the costs to justify the basis of their
>>> flawed argument.
>>
>> How odd that they managed to fool the ACCC on that.
>>
>> And even someone as stupid as you should have noticed that
>> you dont even have to pay telstra more than $18.50 line rent.
>>
>>> It's predatory
>>
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.
>>
>>> but clearly in Australia it's ok for Telco's to behave in that
>>> way when we should have comms services that are much
>>> cheaper, provide better quality (not necessarily more
>>> features), and give better choice and availability to customers.
>>
>> Anyone with a clue has all that.
>>
>>> The middle one of those three is about the only one
>>> we're seeing in the Australia telco market at present.
>>
>> Complete and utter pig ignorant pack of lies.