ADSL Modem/Router

[Ext User(Damien McBain)]

Whatcher? committed to the eternal aether...:

> "Damien McBain" <askme@ifyawantit.invalid> wrote in message
> news:16llocgwjvims.nptohyx2w57q.dlg@40tude.net...
>>
>> How's the "up-time" on the d-link? That's the issue I have with the
>> netgear. The dhcp server, wireless ap etc will sometime just stop working
>> (not always all at the same time) requiring a reboot to get it going.
>
> Sounds to me like you have it set to periodically renew/release/refresh the
> dhcp server and that it then means your connected pcs have to get new IP
> assignments all over again. If it takes a long time, I have seen wireless
> gear actually change, when on auto assign, to the 169.254.*.* range and then
> that required resetting there. That *MAY* be your problem and may be worth a
> look.

I don't think so, they always receive the 10.0.0.X range as I have set it.
When the dhcp server goes down, the connected devices don't receive any IP,
they auto assign a local one and of course networking fails to work on the
network.

> Your reset of the router, then, would cause the pcs to lose contact
> entirely once more and go through the process of trying to find contact,
> at which point, if the router is ready, they may hook on to it and set
> up properly again. Just guessing of course. You may be able to turn that
> renew/etc off within the config of the modem. I think it is the lease
> period it is called in some modems.

I'm not using it as a modem, only as a router / access point. The internet
connection is very stable, I've never had to reset the cable modem.

> However, to answer your question, I have the router on 24 hours a day so
> long as no electrical storm activity is in the area (if it is, the thing
> is off and all wires out of it) though I don't have the computers on 24
> hours a day. I have them off from around midnight to about 6AM and when
> they come back online, never a problem.

Thanks, it sounds much better than mine :(

[Ext User(Mz Linda ©)]

Hi,
You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I apologise
for repeating the same question.
I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
internet.
I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows of
going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good modem/router
that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin was pretty good
but when I researched a little it was found to run quite hot so now I'm not
so sure.

Thanks
Linda B

[Ext User(Colin ®)]

Linksys is a top unit IMO. Just plug it into PC, put in your name & pwd and
it works.

Tried the Belkin and reckon the Linksys is better - great 802 performance
too.

More expensive but I have a real liking for Cisco/Linksys stuff.

I use a Netcomm ( freebie) and it's OK, just as easy to set up, but the 802
performance is crap compared - it replaced a faultless D-Link 804

It's like opinions and a-holes -- everyone has one. Have fun.

Colin


"Mz Linda ©" <mz_linda@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:43c03482$0$638$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au. ..
> Hi,
> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
> apologise for repeating the same question.
> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
> internet.
> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows of
> going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good modem/router
> that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin was pretty good
> but when I researched a little it was found to run quite hot so now I'm
> not so sure.
>
> Thanks
> Linda B
>

[Ext User(me)]

Linda tread slowly, and look at the VOIP Option on Broadband, if so get a
Router with QOS, or QOS & VOIP FXO/FXS Port.
look for other options then a standard router now QOS ( quality of
service) is a MUST now with the VOIP options available

DRAYTEK 2100V (non wireless) DRAYTEL 2100VG Wireless) etc etc

www.draytek.com.au

cheers

















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"Mz Linda ©" <mz_linda@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:43c03482$0$638$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au. ..
> Hi,
> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
> apologise for repeating the same question.
> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
> internet.
> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows of
> going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good modem/router
> that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin was pretty good
> but when I researched a little it was found to run quite hot so now I'm
> not so sure.
>
> Thanks
> Linda B
>

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Mz Linda © <mz_linda@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I apologise
> for repeating the same question.

> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the internet.

> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows
> of going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good
> modem/router that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a
> Belkin was pretty good but when I researched a little it was found to
> run quite hot so now I'm not so sure.

I like the Billion 7202G myself, or the 7402VPG if you want VOIP as well as
wireless.

[Ext User(Colin ®)]

"me" <tuskyone(remove)@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:dppe4n$of8$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
> Linda tread slowly, and look at the VOIP Option on Broadband, if so get a
> Router with QOS, or QOS & VOIP FXO/FXS Port.
> look for other options then a standard router now QOS ( quality of
> service) is a MUST now with the VOIP options available
>
> DRAYTEK 2100V (non wireless) DRAYTEL 2100VG Wireless) etc etc

She wants a modem/router - thats the 2800 series I think.

Good point about VOIP - hardly use the phone but for those that do -----

[Ext User(Whatcher?)]

"Mz Linda ©" <mz_linda@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:43c03482$0$638$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au. ..
> Hi,
> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
> apologise for repeating the same question.
> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
> internet.
> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows of
> going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good modem/router
> that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin was pretty good
> but when I researched a little it was found to run quite hot so now I'm
> not so sure.
>
> Thanks
> Linda B
>

A D-Link G604T is a great one. 4 port wired and also wireless and can handle
the lot at once. easy to set up and change, internal firewall and no hole in
it open to wireless users outside your premises who use telnet to logon as
in other wireless ADSL router/modems.

Whatever you get though, you need to set up encryption on it because if you
don't, people can spy on your computer and use your internet connection
without a worry. That means they can download illegal, disgusting stuff and
drive away and the finger is left pointing at YOU because it came through
YOUR connection.

[Ext User(Whatcher?)]

"me" <tuskyone(remove)@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:dppe4n$of8$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
> Linda tread slowly, and look at the VOIP Option on Broadband, if so get a
> Router with QOS, or QOS & VOIP FXO/FXS Port.
> look for other options then a standard router now QOS ( quality of
> service) is a MUST now with the VOIP options available
>
> DRAYTEK 2100V (non wireless) DRAYTEL 2100VG Wireless) etc etc
>
> www.draytek.com.au
>

No need to look at the VOIP option. That's just misleading newbie stuff. You
can get progs to do VOIP now and have been able to for a long time. You can
even call home phones from them and have been able to for a long time.

What you SHOULD care about if you think VOIP is important is wireless VOIP.
Much like mobile phones.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Whatcher? <t.4.2@2.4.t> wrote
> me <tuskyone(remove)@yahoo.com.au> wrote

>> Linda tread slowly, and look at the VOIP Option on Broadband, if so get a
>> Router with QOS, or QOS & VOIP FXO/FXS Port.
>> look for other options then a standard router now QOS ( quality of service)
>> is a MUST now with the VOIP options available

>> DRAYTEK 2100V (non wireless) DRAYTEL 2100VG Wireless) etc etc

>> www.draytek.com.au

> No need to look at the VOIP option. That's just misleading newbie stuff.

Wrong.

> You can get progs to do VOIP now and have been able to for a long time.

And voip done by the router leaves it for dead.

> You can even call home phones from them and have been able to for a long time.

Irrelevant to whether its done a lot better by the router.

> What you SHOULD care about if you think VOIP is important is wireless VOIP.
> Much like mobile phones.

Utterly mangled all over again. A router with voip
can use a standard cordless handset system, stupid.

[Ext User(Damien McBain)]

Mz Linda © committed to the eternal aether...:

> Hi,
> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I apologise
> for repeating the same question.
> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
> internet.
> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows of
> going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good modem/router
> that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin was pretty good
> but when I researched a little it was found to run quite hot so now I'm not
> so sure.

I use a netgear one which I bought cheap a couple of years ago. If I was
starting from scratch now I wouldn't buy one. I'd probably go d-link or
linksys based on overwhelmingly positive feedback.

[Ext User(Whatcher?)]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Whatcher? <t.4.2@2.4.t> wrote
>> me <tuskyone(remove)@yahoo.com.au> wrote
>
>>> Linda tread slowly, and look at the VOIP Option on Broadband, if so get
>>> a Router with QOS, or QOS & VOIP FXO/FXS Port.
>>> look for other options then a standard router now QOS ( quality of
>>> service) is a MUST now with the VOIP options available
>
>>> DRAYTEK 2100V (non wireless) DRAYTEL 2100VG Wireless) etc etc
>
>>> www.draytek.com.au
>
>> No need to look at the VOIP option. That's just misleading newbie stuff.
>
> Wrong.
>
>> You can get progs to do VOIP now and have been able to for a long time.
>
> And voip done by the router leaves it for dead.
>
>> You can even call home phones from them and have been able to for a long
>> time.
>
> Irrelevant to whether its done a lot better by the router.
>
>> What you SHOULD care about if you think VOIP is important is wireless
>> VOIP. Much like mobile phones.
>
> Utterly mangled all over again. A router with voip
> can use a standard cordless handset system, stupid.
>

Didn't understand a thing, hey Rod? Keep up with the times, old fella!
Wireless VOIP is basically the same thing as a mobile phone done through
wireless broadband. IOW cheap as chips, call anywhere in the world, work
from anywhere that wireless broadband also works.

[Ext User(Whatcher?)]

"Damien McBain" <askme@ifyawantit.invalid> wrote in message
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> Mz Linda © committed to the eternal aether...:
>
>> Hi,
>> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
>> apologise
>> for repeating the same question.
>> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
>> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
>> internet.
>> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows of
>> going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good
>> modem/router
>> that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin was pretty
>> good
>> but when I researched a little it was found to run quite hot so now I'm
>> not
>> so sure.
>
> I use a netgear one which I bought cheap a couple of years ago. If I was
> starting from scratch now I wouldn't buy one. I'd probably go d-link or
> linksys based on overwhelmingly positive feedback.

I always found Netgear to be good stuff for the most part. I have seen very
bad reports on Linksys such as open gaping holes in the open, no password
needed and requiring a firmware upgrade to fix if one ever made it out.

However, I stumbled in to D-link gear more by accident than design and have
to say I don't mind it. Some noise issues with some of the ADSL modems
whistling but not too bad. All in all given the price, I tend to use them
now and their USB wireless NICs are fabulous.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Whatcher? <t.4.2@2.4.t> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Whatcher? <t.4.2@2.4.t> wrote
>>> me <tuskyone(remove)@yahoo.com.au> wrote

>>>> Linda tread slowly, and look at the VOIP Option on Broadband, if so get a
>>>> Router with QOS, or QOS & VOIP FXO/FXS Port.
>>>> look for other options then a standard router now QOS ( quality
>>>> of service) is a MUST now with the VOIP options available

>>>> DRAYTEK 2100V (non wireless) DRAYTEL 2100VG Wireless) etc etc

>>>> www.draytek.com.au

>>> No need to look at the VOIP option. That's just misleading newbie stuff.

>> Wrong.

>>> You can get progs to do VOIP now and have been able to for a long time.

>> And voip done by the router leaves it for dead.

>>> You can even call home phones from them and have been able to for a
>>> long time.

>> Irrelevant to whether its done a lot better by the router.

>>> What you SHOULD care about if you think VOIP is important is
>>> wireless VOIP. Much like mobile phones.

>> Utterly mangled all over again. A router with voip
>> can use a standard cordless handset system, stupid.

> Didn't understand a thing, hey Rod? Keep up with the times, old fella!

Never could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

> Wireless VOIP is basically the same thing as a mobile phone done through
> wireless broadband.

Not a ****ing clue, as always.

> IOW cheap as chips, call anywhere in the world, work from anywhere that
> wireless broadband also works.

Not a ****ing clue, as always.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Whatcher? <t.4.2@2.4.t> wrote:
> "Damien McBain" <askme@ifyawantit.invalid> wrote in message
> news:p8yzghpbpfwg.1mccqpejw8jkc.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Mz Linda © committed to the eternal aether...:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
>>> apologise
>>> for repeating the same question.
>>> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to
>>> get a wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect
>>> to the internet.
>>> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and
>>> lows of going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a
>>> good modem/router
>>> that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin was
>>> pretty good
>>> but when I researched a little it was found to run quite hot so now
>>> I'm not
>>> so sure.
>>
>> I use a netgear one which I bought cheap a couple of years ago. If I
>> was starting from scratch now I wouldn't buy one. I'd probably go
>> d-link or linksys based on overwhelmingly positive feedback.
>
> I always found Netgear to be good stuff for the most part. I have
> seen very bad reports on Linksys such as open gaping holes in the
> open, no password needed and requiring a firmware upgrade to fix if
> one ever made it out.
> However, I stumbled in to D-link gear more by accident than design
> and have to say I don't mind it. Some noise issues with some of the
> ADSL modems whistling but not too bad. All in all given the price, I
> tend to use them now and their USB wireless NICs are fabulous.

D-link do tend to release their stuff too early, with warts,
and that can be a real problem with more complex configs.

[Ext User(Whatcher?)]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Whatcher? <t.4.2@2.4.t> wrote:
>> "Damien McBain" <askme@ifyawantit.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:p8yzghpbpfwg.1mccqpejw8jkc.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> Mz Linda © committed to the eternal aether...:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
>>>> apologise
>>>> for repeating the same question.
>>>> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to
>>>> get a wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect
>>>> to the internet.
>>>> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and
>>>> lows of going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a
>>>> good modem/router
>>>> that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin was
>>>> pretty good
>>>> but when I researched a little it was found to run quite hot so now
>>>> I'm not
>>>> so sure.
>>>
>>> I use a netgear one which I bought cheap a couple of years ago. If I
>>> was starting from scratch now I wouldn't buy one. I'd probably go
>>> d-link or linksys based on overwhelmingly positive feedback.
>>
>> I always found Netgear to be good stuff for the most part. I have
>> seen very bad reports on Linksys such as open gaping holes in the
>> open, no password needed and requiring a firmware upgrade to fix if
>> one ever made it out.
>> However, I stumbled in to D-link gear more by accident than design
>> and have to say I don't mind it. Some noise issues with some of the
>> ADSL modems whistling but not too bad. All in all given the price, I
>> tend to use them now and their USB wireless NICs are fabulous.
>
> D-link do tend to release their stuff too early, with warts,
> and that can be a real problem with more complex configs.
>

Yeah but have you ever SEEN a Dlink with a complex config? I have yet to see
one. The most complicated I have seen is the G604T so far and it is dead
easy to fix. The rest you could configure in your sleep! :)

[Ext User(Mz Linda ©)]

Thanks for the info. I'll go have a search for the linksys. The D-Link 804
sounded good to me but I was told that the signal would be pretty poor
considering the other computer would be at the other end of the house in one
of the back bedrooms.

"Colin ®" <tobyjug7@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
>
> Linksys is a top unit IMO. Just plug it into PC, put in your name & pwd
> and it works.
>
> Tried the Belkin and reckon the Linksys is better - great 802 performance
> too.
>
> More expensive but I have a real liking for Cisco/Linksys stuff.
>
> I use a Netcomm ( freebie) and it's OK, just as easy to set up, but the
> 802 performance is crap compared - it replaced a faultless D-Link 804
>
> It's like opinions and a-holes -- everyone has one. Have fun.
>
> Colin
>
>
> "Mz Linda ©" <mz_linda@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:43c03482$0$638$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au. ..
>> Hi,
>> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
>> apologise for repeating the same question.
>> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
>> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
>> internet.
>> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows of
>> going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good
>> modem/router that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin
>> was pretty good but when I researched a little it was found to run quite
>> hot so now I'm not so sure.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Linda B
>>
>
>

[Ext User(Mz Linda ©)]

Thanks. I don't know much about the voip thing but it sounds like a good
thing to look into.

"me" <tuskyone(remove)@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:dppe4n$of8$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
> Linda tread slowly, and look at the VOIP Option on Broadband, if so get a
> Router with QOS, or QOS & VOIP FXO/FXS Port.
> look for other options then a standard router now QOS ( quality of
> service) is a MUST now with the VOIP options available
>
> DRAYTEK 2100V (non wireless) DRAYTEL 2100VG Wireless) etc etc
>
> www.draytek.com.au
>
> cheers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 9
> "Mz Linda ©" <mz_linda@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:43c03482$0$638$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au. ..
>> Hi,
>> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
>> apologise for repeating the same question.
>> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
>> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
>> internet.
>> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows of
>> going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good
>> modem/router that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin
>> was pretty good but when I researched a little it was found to run quite
>> hot so now I'm not so sure.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Linda B
>>
>
>

[Ext User(Mz Linda ©)]

Thanks for that rod. I will definitely look into the one as well.

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Mz Linda © <mz_linda@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
>> apologise for repeating the same question.
>
>> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
>> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
>> internet.
>
>> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows
>> of going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good
>> modem/router that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a
>> Belkin was pretty good but when I researched a little it was found to
>> run quite hot so now I'm not so sure.
>
> I like the Billion 7202G myself, or the 7402VPG if you want VOIP as well
> as wireless.
>

[Ext User(Mz Linda ©)]

Um, how do you encrypt the thing so no one can pilfer your connection?

"Whatcher?" <t.4.2@2.4.t> wrote in message
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>
> "Mz Linda ©" <mz_linda@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:43c03482$0$638$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au. ..
>> Hi,
>> You've more than likely been asked this a few times already and I
>> apologise for repeating the same question.
>> I've recently relocated to QLD and with the move comes the need to get a
>> wireless ADSL modem/router in order for all of us to connect to the
>> internet.
>> I currently run a DLink 504G but not familiar with the highs and lows of
>> going wireless. Could a few of you good people suggest a good
>> modem/router that's not overly technical to set up? I was told a Belkin
>> was pretty good but when I researched a little it was found to run quite
>> hot so now I'm not so sure.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Linda B
>>
>
> A D-Link G604T is a great one. 4 port wired and also wireless and can
> handle the lot at once. easy to set up and change, internal firewall and
> no hole in it open to wireless users outside your premises who use telnet
> to logon as in other wireless ADSL router/modems.
>
> Whatever you get though, you need to set up encryption on it because if
> you don't, people can spy on your computer and use your internet
> connection without a worry. That means they can download illegal,
> disgusting stuff and drive away and the finger is left pointing at YOU
> because it came through YOUR connection.
>
>