help please - stops on checking system registry

[Ext User(T Rex)]

using win98,
when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops on
"checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".

Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced
some files but still won't start up as per normal.

I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
rebooting.

Any ideas?

Thank you T.

[Ext User(Damian)]

"T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43c74b26$0$17707$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> using win98,
> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops on
> "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>
> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced some
> files but still won't start up as per normal.
>
> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
> rebooting.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thank you T.

what sort of PC is that? CPU, RAM, etc.

[Ext User(T Rex)]

Damian wrote:
> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:43c74b26$0$17707$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> using win98,
>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
>> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops on
>> "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>>
>> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced some
>> files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>
>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
>> rebooting.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thank you T.
>
> what sort of PC is that? CPU, RAM, etc.
>
>

Off the invoice...

AMD Sempron 2400 CPU,
GA-7VM400M Gigabyte AMD Motherboard,
256MB DDR MemoryMhz.

Cheers T.

[Ext User(Russell Wood)]

On 2006-01-13, T Rex <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote:
> using win98,
> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops on
> "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>
> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced
> some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>
> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
> rebooting.
>
> Any ideas?

I would check the memory and hard disk for faults.

Memtest86+: http://www.memtest.org/
Seatools Desktop:
http://download.seagate.com/seatools/registration.nsf/eula/desktop

- Russell

[Ext User(Damian)]

"T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Damian wrote:
>> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:43c74b26$0$17707$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>> using win98,
>>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
>>> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops on
>>> "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>>>
>>> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced
>>> some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>>
>>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
>>> rebooting.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thank you T.
>>
>> what sort of PC is that? CPU, RAM, etc.
>
> Off the invoice...
>
> AMD Sempron 2400 CPU,
> GA-7VM400M Gigabyte AMD Motherboard,
> 256MB DDR MemoryMhz.
>
> Cheers T.

Start by checkin the hard disk by downloadin the troubleshootin Ute,
dependin on the HD brand, then U can look into the problems of memory,
motherboard, etc.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

T Rex <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote

> using win98,
> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops
> on "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".

> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced some
> files but still won't start up as per normal.

> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
> rebooting.

Thats the evidence of some basic hardware problem.

> Any ideas?

Use the 98 install to work out what
the hardware problem is and fix that.

Try with the absolute minimum of hardware you can do an
install with, just video card, one hard drive and cdrom drive.

If that still fails, try a different video card and check
the hard drive SMART data with Everest from
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181

If that still doesnt help, check the motherboard for bad
caps. Those are usually blue or black plastic coated post
like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard.
Check that the tops are completely flat, no bulges or obvious
leaks. If you have any of those, replace the motherboard.

[Ext User(Swampfox)]

"T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43c76f11$0$11102$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Damian wrote:
>> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:43c74b26$0$17707$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>> using win98,
>>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
>>> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops on
>>> "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>>>
>>> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced
>>> some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>>
>>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
>>> rebooting.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thank you T.
>>
>> what sort of PC is that? CPU, RAM, etc.
>
> Off the invoice...
>
> AMD Sempron 2400 CPU,
> GA-7VM400M Gigabyte AMD Motherboard,
> 256MB DDR MemoryMhz.
>
> Cheers T.

So why on earth are you using Win98?
Dump it and install XP.

[Ext User(T Rex)]

Rod Speed wrote:
> T Rex <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote
>
>> using win98,
>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
>> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops
>> on "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>
>> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced some
>> files but still won't start up as per normal.
>
>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
>> rebooting.
>
> Thats the evidence of some basic hardware problem.
>
>> Any ideas?
>
> Use the 98 install to work out what
> the hardware problem is and fix that.
>
> Try with the absolute minimum of hardware you can do an
> install with, just video card, one hard drive and cdrom drive.
>
> If that still fails, try a different video card and check
> the hard drive SMART data with Everest from
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
>
> If that still doesnt help, check the motherboard for bad
> caps. Those are usually blue or black plastic coated post
> like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard.
> Check that the tops are completely flat, no bulges or obvious
> leaks. If you have any of those, replace the motherboard.
>
>
Latest news flash - son admits to installing and using "registry
mechanic" tryout version. He said it was cleaning registry and was
prompted to restart computer and hasn't worked since....
I suspect this may have changed something in registry.
Can I recover previous registry settings somehow?
Or does this information help finding the problem.

Father and son still talking... just.

Cheers T.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

T Rex <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote:
> Swampfox wrote:
>> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:43c76f11$0$11102$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>> Damian wrote:
>>>> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:43c74b26$0$17707$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>>>> using win98,
>>>>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry
>>>>> checker(blue screen), goes thru "looking for valid system
>>>>> registry keys then stops on "checking system registry structure"
>>>>> at "48% complete". Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry
>>>>> checker and
>>>>> replaced some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>>>>
>>>>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete
>>>>> installation on rebooting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you T.
>>>> what sort of PC is that? CPU, RAM, etc.
>>> Off the invoice...
>>>
>>> AMD Sempron 2400 CPU,
>>> GA-7VM400M Gigabyte AMD Motherboard,
>>> 256MB DDR MemoryMhz.
>>>
>>> Cheers T.
>>
>> So why on earth are you using Win98?
>> Dump it and install XP.
>>
>>
> can I just install xp over top and fix problem?

Unlikely, looks like its got a hardware problem.

[Ext User(T Rex)]

Swampfox wrote:
> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:43c76f11$0$11102$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> Damian wrote:
>>> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:43c74b26$0$17707$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>>> using win98,
>>>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
>>>> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops on
>>>> "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>>>>
>>>> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced
>>>> some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>>>
>>>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
>>>> rebooting.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you T.
>>> what sort of PC is that? CPU, RAM, etc.
>> Off the invoice...
>>
>> AMD Sempron 2400 CPU,
>> GA-7VM400M Gigabyte AMD Motherboard,
>> 256MB DDR MemoryMhz.
>>
>> Cheers T.
>
> So why on earth are you using Win98?
> Dump it and install XP.
>
>
can I just install xp over top and fix problem?

Cheers T.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

T Rex <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> T Rex <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote
>>
>>> using win98,
>>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
>>> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then
>>> stops on "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>>
>>> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and
>>> replaced some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>
>>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete
>>> installation on rebooting.
>>
>> Thats the evidence of some basic hardware problem.
>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Use the 98 install to work out what
>> the hardware problem is and fix that.
>>
>> Try with the absolute minimum of hardware you can do an
>> install with, just video card, one hard drive and cdrom drive.
>>
>> If that still fails, try a different video card and check
>> the hard drive SMART data with Everest from
>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
>>
>> If that still doesnt help, check the motherboard for bad
>> caps. Those are usually blue or black plastic coated post
>> like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard.
>> Check that the tops are completely flat, no bulges or obvious
>> leaks. If you have any of those, replace the motherboard.

> Latest news flash - son admits to installing and using "registry
> mechanic" tryout version. He said it was cleaning registry and was prompted to
> restart computer and hasn't worked since....

Time for a retrospective abortion.

> I suspect this may have changed something in registry.
> Can I recover previous registry settings somehow?

Not with 98. You could if you were running XP.

> Or does this information help finding the problem.

Yes. Just how did you do the reinstall ? If you didnt
format the hard drive first, it may well be that the
registry is rather comprehensively screwed and you
need to format the drive before installing 98 now.

That will obviously lose everything installed and your data.

You could try some other registry cleaners
now, you might find one will fix the mess.

> Father and son still talking... just.

Dont forget that he will be picking your nursing home.

[Ext User(Swampfox)]

"T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Swampfox wrote:
>> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:43c76f11$0$11102$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>> Damian wrote:
>>>> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:43c74b26$0$17707$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>>>> using win98,
>>>>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
>>>>> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops
>>>>> on "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>>>>>
>>>>> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced
>>>>> some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>>>>
>>>>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation
>>>>> on rebooting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you T.
>>>> what sort of PC is that? CPU, RAM, etc.
>>> Off the invoice...
>>>
>>> AMD Sempron 2400 CPU,
>>> GA-7VM400M Gigabyte AMD Motherboard,
>>> 256MB DDR MemoryMhz.
>>>
>>> Cheers T.
>>
>> So why on earth are you using Win98?
>> Dump it and install XP.
> can I just install xp over top and fix problem?
>
> Cheers T.

Better to format the drive and do a clean install, formatting your drive
NTFS.

[Ext User(Fred)]

"T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
news:43c82341$0$26131$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> T Rex <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote
>>
>>> using win98,
>>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
>>> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops
>>> on "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>>
>>> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced
>>> some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>
>>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
>>> rebooting.
>>
>> Thats the evidence of some basic hardware problem.
>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Use the 98 install to work out what
>> the hardware problem is and fix that.
>>
>> Try with the absolute minimum of hardware you can do an
>> install with, just video card, one hard drive and cdrom drive.
>>
>> If that still fails, try a different video card and check
>> the hard drive SMART data with Everest from
>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
>>
>> If that still doesnt help, check the motherboard for bad
>> caps. Those are usually blue or black plastic coated post
>> like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard.
>> Check that the tops are completely flat, no bulges or obvious
>> leaks. If you have any of those, replace the motherboard.
> Latest news flash - son admits to installing and using "registry mechanic"
> tryout version. He said it was cleaning registry and was prompted to
> restart computer and hasn't worked since....
> I suspect this may have changed something in registry.
> Can I recover previous registry settings somehow?
> Or does this information help finding the problem.
>
> Father and son still talking... just.
>
> Cheers T.

Can you start Registry Mechanic in Safe Mode?
It may have done an automatic backup of the registry which you may be able
to restore from within the program.

[Ext User(Colin ®)]

"Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru> wrote in message
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> Better to format the drive and do a clean install, formatting your drive
> NTFS.


With Win98 ? - that would be a neat trick.

[Ext User(T Rex)]

Fred wrote:
> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:43c82341$0$26131$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> T Rex <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote
>>>
>>>> using win98,
>>>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry checker(blue
>>>> screen), goes thru "looking for valid system registry keys then stops
>>>> on "checking system registry structure" at "48% complete".
>>>> Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry checker and replaced
>>>> some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete installation on
>>>> rebooting.
>>> Thats the evidence of some basic hardware problem.
>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>> Use the 98 install to work out what
>>> the hardware problem is and fix that.
>>>
>>> Try with the absolute minimum of hardware you can do an
>>> install with, just video card, one hard drive and cdrom drive.
>>>
>>> If that still fails, try a different video card and check
>>> the hard drive SMART data with Everest from
>>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
>>>
>>> If that still doesnt help, check the motherboard for bad
>>> caps. Those are usually blue or black plastic coated post
>>> like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard.
>>> Check that the tops are completely flat, no bulges or obvious
>>> leaks. If you have any of those, replace the motherboard.
>> Latest news flash - son admits to installing and using "registry mechanic"
>> tryout version. He said it was cleaning registry and was prompted to
>> restart computer and hasn't worked since....
>> I suspect this may have changed something in registry.
>> Can I recover previous registry settings somehow?
>> Or does this information help finding the problem.
>>
>> Father and son still talking... just.
>>
>> Cheers T.
>
> Can you start Registry Mechanic in Safe Mode?
> It may have done an automatic backup of the registry which you may be able
> to restore from within the program.
>
>
Now I can't get into safe mode as its trying to setup the new version of
windows i tried to reinstall.
Cheers T.

[Ext User(Fred)]

T Rex wrote:
> Fred wrote:
>> "T Rex" <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:43c82341$0$26131$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> T Rex <Tana@banananet.com.au> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> using win98,
>>>>> when starting up computer it goes to Microsoft registry
>>>>> checker(blue screen), goes thru "looking for valid system
>>>>> registry keys then stops on "checking system registry structure"
>>>>> at "48% complete". Can startup in safe mode and have used "registry
>>>>> checker and
>>>>> replaced some files but still won't start up as per normal.
>>>>> I havwe tried reinstalling windows but it won't complete
>>>>> installation on rebooting.
>>>> Thats the evidence of some basic hardware problem.
>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> Use the 98 install to work out what
>>>> the hardware problem is and fix that.
>>>>
>>>> Try with the absolute minimum of hardware you can do an
>>>> install with, just video card, one hard drive and cdrom drive.
>>>>
>>>> If that still fails, try a different video card and check
>>>> the hard drive SMART data with Everest from
>>>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181
>>>>
>>>> If that still doesnt help, check the motherboard for bad
>>>> caps. Those are usually blue or black plastic coated post
>>>> like things that stick up vertically from the motherboard.
>>>> Check that the tops are completely flat, no bulges or obvious
>>>> leaks. If you have any of those, replace the motherboard.
>>> Latest news flash - son admits to installing and using "registry
>>> mechanic" tryout version. He said it was cleaning registry and was
>>> prompted to restart computer and hasn't worked since....
>>> I suspect this may have changed something in registry.
>>> Can I recover previous registry settings somehow?
>>> Or does this information help finding the problem.
>>>
>>> Father and son still talking... just.
>>>
>>> Cheers T.
>>
>> Can you start Registry Mechanic in Safe Mode?
>> It may have done an automatic backup of the registry which you may
>> be able to restore from within the program.
>>
>>
> Now I can't get into safe mode as its trying to setup the new version
> of windows i tried to reinstall.
> Cheers T.

I have had similar problems in the past.
IIRC I used to boot using a floppy and delete the windows directory through
DOS. I think I had to change the properties of some files using ATTRIB so
that they could be deleted.
Then I would reinstal Windows and the programs.
Now if you have any important data on that drive you might consider
disconnecting it for the moment and installing a new drive. Instal Windows
on the new drive and transfer across the important data from the old drive
later on.

[Ext User(Swampfox)]

"Colin ®" <tobyjug7@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru> wrote in message
> news:43c83795$0$17702$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> Better to format the drive and do a clean install, formatting your drive
>> NTFS.
>
>
> With Win98 ? - that would be a neat trick.


With XP.

[Ext User(Colin ®)]

"Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru> wrote in message
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>
>>> Better to format the drive and do a clean install, formatting your drive
>>> NTFS.
>>
>>
>> With Win98 ? - that would be a neat trick.
>
>
> With XP.

He's got Win 98 - no indication he wants to change.

( But I can't see why you wouldn't want to)

I've got a P4P800 and AFAIR, I couldn't get 98 to install properly - wrong
M/B drivers. It's the sandbox I use to test software and I need 98 to make
sure it runs.

[Ext User(Swampfox)]

"Colin ®" <tobyjug7@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Swampfox" <groint@pochta.ru> wrote in message
> news:43c87b12$0$26131$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>
>>>> Better to format the drive and do a clean install, formatting your
>>>> drive NTFS.
>>>
>>>
>>> With Win98 ? - that would be a neat trick.
>>
>>
>> With XP.
>
> He's got Win 98 - no indication he wants to change.
>
> ( But I can't see why you wouldn't want to)
>
> I've got a P4P800 and AFAIR, I couldn't get 98 to install properly - wrong
> M/B drivers. It's the sandbox I use to test software and I need 98 to
> make sure it runs.

98SE was passable but XP is far more stable and intuitive.
If you have the processor power which the OP does, and you like Windows,
you'd be crazy not to run XP.
I have it running sweetly on a Celeron 600 laptop.