Swap "Logitech Wireless Keyboard + Mouse" for "USB Keyboard + USBMouse"

[Ext User(www.168.net.au)]

Logitech Cordless Freedom™ Optical

Wireless Hub Connector Model Number: C-BD9-DUAL
Wireless Keyboard Model Number: Y-RE20
Wireless Mouse Model Number: M-RR63

In Good Condition, and want to swap for any "NEW" USB Keyboard + USB Mouse.. for
use with my iMac. Or if anyone wants to offer a $$ on those that I can get a
new set of USB Keyboard + Mouse.

Pickup from Chatswood, Ryde, Wollongong areas in NSW.

Driver download:
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1797,contentid=5357

Reason for swapping:

1) The keyboard has got printed Chinese characters...
2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...

Pictures available upon request, remove REMOVE_SPAM from my email to contact me.

[Ext User(Zyxak)]

On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...

>
> 2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>
Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've had my
Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's still on the
original batteries even as I type this message.

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[Ext User(spodosaurus)]

Zyxak wrote:
> On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>
>>
>> 2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>
> Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've had my
> Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's still on the
> original batteries even as I type this message.
>

It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have several
sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a good charger
like a Maha brand one in Australia is very difficult. I also have a
Logitech cordless mouse and keyboard, and they're very nice, but every
so often the batteries in the mouse die in the middle of an online game,
and that often leads to taking a loss against an inferior opponent.

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[Ext User(Jollyrodgers)]

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
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> Zyxak wrote:
>> On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>>
>>>
>>> 2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>>
>> Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've had my
>> Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's still on the
>> original batteries even as I type this message.
>>
>
> It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have several
> sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a good charger like
> a Maha brand one in Australia is very difficult. I also have a Logitech
> cordless mouse and keyboard, and they're very nice, but every so often the
> batteries in the mouse die in the middle of an online game, and that often
> leads to taking a loss against an inferior opponent.

I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless optical
the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the MS battery
life of a few months.
I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just needs
better power saving technology

[Ext User(mark jb)]

> I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless optical
> the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the MS battery
> life of a few months.
> I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just needs
> better power saving technology

Christ, my Logitech (mx700) is lucky to last a week or two on a set of
batteries, depending on usage.
Extremely accurate though, so a tradeoff is inevitable.

Came with a pair of 1800mah NIMH AA's, base station charger packed it in a
few months ago, just using a Grandcell charger at the moment - it would be
lucky to half charge them, that may be the root of the problem ;)

-mark

[Ext User(spodosaurus)]

Jollyrodgers wrote:
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:43c9eec2$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>
>>Zyxak wrote:
>>
>>>On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>>>
>>>
>>>>2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>>>
>>>
>>>Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've had my
>>>Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's still on the
>>>original batteries even as I type this message.
>>>
>>
>>It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have several
>>sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a good charger like
>>a Maha brand one in Australia is very difficult. I also have a Logitech
>>cordless mouse and keyboard, and they're very nice, but every so often the
>>batteries in the mouse die in the middle of an online game, and that often
>>leads to taking a loss against an inferior opponent.
>
>
> I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless optical
> the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the MS battery
> life of a few months.
> I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just needs
> better power saving technology
>
>

I'm using one of the earlier logitech wireless mouse+keyboard combos of
their current shape, so I'd bet that has something to do with my battery
life issues. I really like the wireless keyboard, but I think I'm going
to go with one of their new wired optical gaming mice sometime in the
next year. I have two systems on my desktop and use a KVM, so the fewer
wires the better!

Cheers,

Ari


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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

[Ext User(spodosaurus)]

mark jb wrote:
>>I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless optical
>>the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the MS battery
>>life of a few months.
>>I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just needs
>>better power saving technology
>
>
> Christ, my Logitech (mx700) is lucky to last a week or two on a set of
> batteries, depending on usage.
> Extremely accurate though, so a tradeoff is inevitable.
>
> Came with a pair of 1800mah NIMH AA's, base station charger packed it in a
> few months ago, just using a Grandcell charger at the moment - it would be
> lucky to half charge them, that may be the root of the problem ;)
>
> -mark

I ordered a Maha MH-C401FS and absolutely love it for charging
batteries. I bought some Powerex (another Maha brand) NiMH batteries
with it and they outperform everything I've purchased locally. I think I
ordered it from thomasdistributing.com, but there are other places that
sell Maha chargers including one in NZ, IIRC. If I ever have to replace
it, I'll buy another Maha.

Ari



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neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

[Ext User(www.168.net.au)]

Well.. just think that it is not fun to have to change batteries while you are
in the middle of doing something. I think those mouse with rechargeable
batteries built-in would be better.. but keyboard, still a problem. Rather use
an old style one..


Zyxak wrote:
> Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've had my
> Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's still on the
> original batteries even as I type this message.
>

[Ext User([BnH])]

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:43c9eec2$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have several
> sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a good charger like
> a Maha brand one in Australia is very difficult. I also have a Logitech
> cordless mouse and keyboard, and they're very nice, but every so often the
> batteries in the mouse die in the middle of an online game, and that often
> leads to taking a loss against an inferior opponent.

Maha chargers are very easy to source locally.
Email lionel.chan [at] acupuncture.net.au[stralia]. AFAIK he is the only
Maha charger reseller in Australia.

=bob=

[Ext User(Jollyrodgers)]

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:43ca11b5@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Jollyrodgers wrote:
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>> news:43c9eec2$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>
>>>Zyxak wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've had my
>>>>Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's still on the
>>>>original batteries even as I type this message.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have several
>>>sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a good charger
>>>like a Maha brand one in Australia is very difficult. I also have a
>>>Logitech cordless mouse and keyboard, and they're very nice, but every so
>>>often the batteries in the mouse die in the middle of an online game, and
>>>that often leads to taking a loss against an inferior opponent.
>>
>>
>> I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless optical
>> the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the MS battery
>> life of a few months.
>> I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just needs
>> better power saving technology
>>
>>
>
> I'm using one of the earlier logitech wireless mouse+keyboard combos of
> their current shape, so I'd bet that has something to do with my battery
> life issues. I really like the wireless keyboard, but I think I'm going to
> go with one of their new wired optical gaming mice sometime in the next
> year. I have two systems on my desktop and use a KVM, so the fewer wires
> the better!

I discovered the MS vs. Logitech difference when I upgraded my system.
I set up my old system for my Mrs. to use but had to get her a new mouse
being the MS version, Here I was after 2 sets of batteries in the Logitech
looking at her mouse thinking, damn that thing is good, well imagine
what I was thinking after the sixth set, when it eventually needed batteries
I think I was onto set eight or nine in the Logitech.


Lionel.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Jollyrodgers <~jollyrod~@bogpud.net.au> wrote:
> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:43ca11b5@quokka.wn.com.au...
>> Jollyrodgers wrote:
>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>> news:43c9eec2$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>
>>>> Zyxak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've
>>>>> had my Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's still
>>>>> on the original batteries even as I type this message.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have
>>>> several sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a
>>>> good charger like a Maha brand one in Australia is very difficult.
>>>> I also have a Logitech cordless mouse and keyboard, and they're
>>>> very nice, but every so often the batteries in the mouse die in
>>>> the middle of an online game, and that often leads to taking a
>>>> loss against an inferior opponent.
>>>
>>>
>>> I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless
>>> optical the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the
>>> MS battery life of a few months.
>>> I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just
>>> needs better power saving technology
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm using one of the earlier logitech wireless mouse+keyboard combos
>> of their current shape, so I'd bet that has something to do with my
>> battery life issues. I really like the wireless keyboard, but I
>> think I'm going to go with one of their new wired optical gaming
>> mice sometime in the next year. I have two systems on my desktop and
>> use a KVM, so the fewer wires the better!
>
> I discovered the MS vs. Logitech difference when I upgraded my system.
> I set up my old system for my Mrs. to use but had to get her a new
> mouse being the MS version, Here I was after 2 sets of batteries in
> the Logitech looking at her mouse thinking, damn that thing is good,
> well imagine what I was thinking after the sixth set, when it eventually
> needed
> batteries I think I was onto set eight or nine in the Logitech.

The only mice that make any sense at all is the wireless optical mice that
plug into a charger by putting the mouse on the charger like the MX700.

[Ext User(Uncle Bully)]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:430sifF1lg990U1@individual.net...
> Jollyrodgers <~jollyrod~@bogpud.net.au> wrote:
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>> news:43ca11b5@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>> Jollyrodgers wrote:
>>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:43c9eec2$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>> Zyxak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've
>>>>>> had my Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's still
>>>>>> on the original batteries even as I type this message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have
>>>>> several sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a
>>>>> good charger like a Maha brand one in Australia is very difficult.
>>>>> I also have a Logitech cordless mouse and keyboard, and they're
>>>>> very nice, but every so often the batteries in the mouse die in
>>>>> the middle of an online game, and that often leads to taking a
>>>>> loss against an inferior opponent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless
>>>> optical the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the
>>>> MS battery life of a few months.
>>>> I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just
>>>> needs better power saving technology
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm using one of the earlier logitech wireless mouse+keyboard combos
>>> of their current shape, so I'd bet that has something to do with my
>>> battery life issues. I really like the wireless keyboard, but I
>>> think I'm going to go with one of their new wired optical gaming
>>> mice sometime in the next year. I have two systems on my desktop and
>>> use a KVM, so the fewer wires the better!
>>
>> I discovered the MS vs. Logitech difference when I upgraded my system.
>> I set up my old system for my Mrs. to use but had to get her a new
>> mouse being the MS version, Here I was after 2 sets of batteries in
>> the Logitech looking at her mouse thinking, damn that thing is good,
>> well imagine what I was thinking after the sixth set, when it eventually
>> needed
>> batteries I think I was onto set eight or nine in the Logitech.
>
> The only mice that make any sense at all is the wireless optical mice that
> plug into a charger by putting the mouse on the charger like the MX700.

Or one of these puppies:
http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/a4tech_nb30_mouse/index.shtml

(Although I don't imagine the quality is that shit hot)

[Ext User(Colin ®)]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:430sifF1lg990U1@individual.net...
> The only mice that make any sense at all is the wireless optical mice that
> plug into a charger by putting the mouse on the charger like the MX700.


No way Rod - you're too Logitech addicted.

The MS Wireless Optical 2 mice are great and run at least 6 months on 2 AA
alkalines.

And you get warnings ages before they fail too. Plus they are a great shape
to hold.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Uncle Bully <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.Remove> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:430sifF1lg990U1@individual.net...
>> Jollyrodgers <~jollyrod~@bogpud.net.au> wrote:
>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>> news:43ca11b5@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>> Jollyrodgers wrote:
>>>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:43c9eec2$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Zyxak wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've
>>>>>>> had my Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's
>>>>>>> still on the original batteries even as I type this message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have
>>>>>> several sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a
>>>>>> good charger like a Maha brand one in Australia is very
>>>>>> difficult. I also have a Logitech cordless mouse and keyboard,
>>>>>> and they're very nice, but every so often the batteries in the
>>>>>> mouse die in the middle of an online game, and that often leads
>>>>>> to taking a loss against an inferior opponent.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless
>>>>> optical the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the
>>>>> MS battery life of a few months.
>>>>> I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just
>>>>> needs better power saving technology
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm using one of the earlier logitech wireless mouse+keyboard
>>>> combos of their current shape, so I'd bet that has something to do
>>>> with my battery life issues. I really like the wireless keyboard,
>>>> but I think I'm going to go with one of their new wired optical
>>>> gaming mice sometime in the next year. I have two systems on my
>>>> desktop and use a KVM, so the fewer wires the better!
>>>
>>> I discovered the MS vs. Logitech difference when I upgraded my
>>> system. I set up my old system for my Mrs. to use but had to get
>>> her a new mouse being the MS version, Here I was after 2 sets of
>>> batteries in the Logitech looking at her mouse thinking, damn that thing is
>>> good,
>>> well imagine what I was thinking after the sixth set, when it
>>> eventually needed
>>> batteries I think I was onto set eight or nine in the Logitech.
>>
>> The only mice that make any sense at all is the wireless optical
>> mice that plug into a charger by putting the mouse on the charger
>> like the MX700.

> Or one of these puppies:
> http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/a4tech_nb30_mouse/index.shtml

No thanks, that fucks the portability you get with a
wireless mouse if you have to use it on that pad.

> (Although I don't imagine the quality is that shit hot)

Yeah, never liked their quality myself.

The only problem with the logitech is that the letters wear off the keyboard
keys.

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Colin ® <tobyjug7@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:430sifF1lg990U1@individual.net...
>> The only mice that make any sense at all is the wireless optical
>> mice that plug into a charger by putting the mouse on the charger
>> like the MX700.
>
>
> No way Rod - you're too Logitech addicted.
>
> The MS Wireless Optical 2 mice are great and run at least 6 months on
> 2 AA alkalines.
>
> And you get warnings ages before they fail too. Plus they are a great
> shape to hold.

Nothing like an MX700.

[Ext User(Legend)]

Uncle Bully wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:430sifF1lg990U1@individual.net...
>> Jollyrodgers <~jollyrod~@bogpud.net.au> wrote:
>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>> news:43ca11b5@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>> Jollyrodgers wrote:
>>>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:43c9eec2$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Zyxak wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've
>>>>>>> had my Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's still
>>>>>>> on the original batteries even as I type this message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have
>>>>>> several sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a
>>>>>> good charger like a Maha brand one in Australia is very difficult.
>>>>>> I also have a Logitech cordless mouse and keyboard, and they're
>>>>>> very nice, but every so often the batteries in the mouse die in
>>>>>> the middle of an online game, and that often leads to taking a
>>>>>> loss against an inferior opponent.
>>>>>
>>>>> I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless
>>>>> optical the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the
>>>>> MS battery life of a few months.
>>>>> I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just
>>>>> needs better power saving technology
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I'm using one of the earlier logitech wireless mouse+keyboard combos
>>>> of their current shape, so I'd bet that has something to do with my
>>>> battery life issues. I really like the wireless keyboard, but I
>>>> think I'm going to go with one of their new wired optical gaming
>>>> mice sometime in the next year. I have two systems on my desktop and
>>>> use a KVM, so the fewer wires the better!
>>> I discovered the MS vs. Logitech difference when I upgraded my system.
>>> I set up my old system for my Mrs. to use but had to get her a new
>>> mouse being the MS version, Here I was after 2 sets of batteries in
>>> the Logitech looking at her mouse thinking, damn that thing is good,
>>> well imagine what I was thinking after the sixth set, when it eventually
>>> needed
>>> batteries I think I was onto set eight or nine in the Logitech.
>> The only mice that make any sense at all is the wireless optical mice that
>> plug into a charger by putting the mouse on the charger like the MX700.
>
> Or one of these puppies:
> http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/a4tech_nb30_mouse/index.shtml
>
> (Although I don't imagine the quality is that shit hot)
>
>
>
I had the same thing with my graphics tablet 10 years ago...
and the mouse must be ON the mouse pad ... just 1 mm above and its dead

[Ext User(Dyna Soar)]

Rod Speed wrote:

> The only problem with the logitech is that the letters wear off the
> keyboard keys.

Can't see how that's a problem for you, Roddles. 'Cause you wanked yourself
blind years ago, you'd be relying on touch only anyways.

--
Dyna

All Rights Reserved. All Wrongs Avenged.

[Ext User(Clockmeister)]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Colin ® <tobyjug7@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:430sifF1lg990U1@individual.net...
>>> The only mice that make any sense at all is the wireless optical
>>> mice that plug into a charger by putting the mouse on the charger
>>> like the MX700.
>>
>>
>> No way Rod - you're too Logitech addicted.
>>
>> The MS Wireless Optical 2 mice are great and run at least 6 months on
>> 2 AA alkalines.
>>
>> And you get warnings ages before they fail too. Plus they are a great
>> shape to hold.
>
> Nothing like an MX700.

Bah humbug, my basic MS wireless keyboard mouse setup has had three sets of
batteries, four of which were used and scrounged out of the drawer and the
keyboard is still on it's original batteries. A month shy of a year, that
combo works well enough for me.

[Ext User(spodosaurus)]

Rod Speed wrote:
> Uncle Bully <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.Remove> wrote:
>
>>"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:430sifF1lg990U1@individual.net...
>>
>>>Jollyrodgers <~jollyrod~@bogpud.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:43ca11b5@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>>Jollyrodgers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:43c9eec2$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Zyxak wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've
>>>>>>>>had my Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's
>>>>>>>>still on the original batteries even as I type this message.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have
>>>>>>>several sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting a
>>>>>>>good charger like a Maha brand one in Australia is very
>>>>>>>difficult. I also have a Logitech cordless mouse and keyboard,
>>>>>>>and they're very nice, but every so often the batteries in the
>>>>>>>mouse die in the middle of an online game, and that often leads
>>>>>>>to taking a loss against an inferior opponent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless
>>>>>>optical the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to the
>>>>>>MS battery life of a few months.
>>>>>>I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just
>>>>>>needs better power saving technology
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm using one of the earlier logitech wireless mouse+keyboard
>>>>>combos of their current shape, so I'd bet that has something to do
>>>>>with my battery life issues. I really like the wireless keyboard,
>>>>>but I think I'm going to go with one of their new wired optical
>>>>>gaming mice sometime in the next year. I have two systems on my
>>>>>desktop and use a KVM, so the fewer wires the better!
>>>>
>>>>I discovered the MS vs. Logitech difference when I upgraded my
>>>>system. I set up my old system for my Mrs. to use but had to get
>>>>her a new mouse being the MS version, Here I was after 2 sets of
>>>>batteries in the Logitech looking at her mouse thinking, damn that thing is
>>>>good,
>>>>well imagine what I was thinking after the sixth set, when it
>>>>eventually needed
>>>>batteries I think I was onto set eight or nine in the Logitech.
>>>
>>>The only mice that make any sense at all is the wireless optical
>>>mice that plug into a charger by putting the mouse on the charger
>>>like the MX700.
>
>
>>Or one of these puppies:
>>http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/a4tech_nb30_mouse/index.shtml
>
>
> No thanks, that fucks the portability you get with a
> wireless mouse if you have to use it on that pad.
>
>
>>(Although I don't imagine the quality is that shit hot)
>
>
> Yeah, never liked their quality myself.
>
> The only problem with the logitech is that the letters wear off the keyboard
> keys.
>
>

I agree re: A4Tech items. I've had issues with them. About as cheap as
I'll go are Genius mice. I also haven't had issues with Logitech
keyboard letters, and I've been using this one since 2002 IIRC. All the
letters are as they were the day I bought it, but at the time it was a
top of the range wireless combo, so that might have something to do with
it. While I don't like how the old wireless optical mice from Logitech
(the ones without the recharge base stations) such NiMH batteries dry, I
prefer the performance quality and feel of the mice over Microsoft brand
optical mice. I've had a few, and didn't like any of them. Even low end
Logitech optical mice don't jump around like the MS mice did, especially
the cheaper ones.

Ari

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spodosaurus <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Uncle Bully <wakeupcall@optushome.com.au.Remove> wrote:
>>
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:430sifF1lg990U1@individual.net...
>>>
>>>> Jollyrodgers <~jollyrod~@bogpud.net.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:43ca11b5@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jollyrodgers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:43c9eec2$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Zyxak wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 15/01/06 13:38, www.168.net.au uttered the following...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2) I don't really like to keep putting batteries in it...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Man, you must be hammering the crap outta that keyboard! I've
>>>>>>>>> had my Logitech cordless keyboard for over 2 years and it's
>>>>>>>>> still on the original batteries even as I type this message.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's the mouse that sucks the batteries. It's good if you have
>>>>>>>> several sets of NiMH batteries and a good charger, but getting
>>>>>>>> a good charger like a Maha brand one in Australia is very
>>>>>>>> difficult. I also have a Logitech cordless mouse and keyboard,
>>>>>>>> and they're very nice, but every so often the batteries in the
>>>>>>>> mouse die in the middle of an online game, and that often leads
>>>>>>>> to taking a loss against an inferior opponent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I gave my Logitech away to a friend and bought the MS wireless
>>>>>>> optical the Logitech battery life was a few weeks compared to
>>>>>>> the MS battery life of a few months.
>>>>>>> I thought the Logitech needed an on-off switch but seems it just
>>>>>>> needs better power saving technology
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using one of the earlier logitech wireless mouse+keyboard
>>>>>> combos of their current shape, so I'd bet that has something to
>>>>>> do with my battery life issues. I really like the wireless
>>>>>> keyboard, but I think I'm going to go with one of their new
>>>>>> wired optical gaming mice sometime in the next year. I have two
>>>>>> systems on my desktop and use a KVM, so the fewer wires the
>>>>>> better!
>>>>>
>>>>> I discovered the MS vs. Logitech difference when I upgraded my
>>>>> system. I set up my old system for my Mrs. to use but had to get
>>>>> her a new mouse being the MS version, Here I was after 2 sets of
>>>>> batteries in the Logitech looking at her mouse thinking, damn
>>>>> that thing is good,
>>>>> well imagine what I was thinking after the sixth set, when it
>>>>> eventually needed
>>>>> batteries I think I was onto set eight or nine in the Logitech.
>>>>
>>>> The only mice that make any sense at all is the wireless optical
>>>> mice that plug into a charger by putting the mouse on the charger
>>>> like the MX700.
>>
>>
>>> Or one of these puppies:
>>> http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/a4tech_nb30_mouse/index.shtml
>>
>>
>> No thanks, that fucks the portability you get with a
>> wireless mouse if you have to use it on that pad.
>>
>>
>>> (Although I don't imagine the quality is that shit hot)
>>
>>
>> Yeah, never liked their quality myself.
>>
>> The only problem with the logitech is that the letters wear off the
>> keyboard keys.

> I agree re: A4Tech items. I've had issues with them. About as cheap as
> I'll go are Genius mice. I also haven't had issues with Logitech
> keyboard letters, and I've been using this one since 2002 IIRC.

I've had mine since Sep-03 and the keys have been pretty bad for
the last 6 months on the worst keys, no letter left at all on the worst.

> All the letters are as they were the day I bought it, but at the time it was a
> top of the range wireless combo, so that might have something to do with it.

Nope, so was mine, cordless mx duo.

Had the same problem with the MS keyboard before
that too, and it was the top of the line at that time too.

I did check with Logitech that the labels on the keys are
covered by the warranty, MS tried to claim that theirs wasnt.
Havent gotten around to exercising the warranty yet, basically
the lack of the letters is less of an irritation than the corded
MS keyboard is, and there is plenty of warranty left to run.

I did intend to monster MS on their warranty, but
put it off until I was using a decent replacement,
then managed to cripple myself just as the warranty
expired so didnt get a chance to fuck them over.

> While I don't like how the old wireless optical mice from Logitech (the ones
> without the recharge base stations) such NiMH batteries dry, I prefer the
> performance quality and feel of the mice over Microsoft brand optical mice.

Yeah, I still have the older MS optical mouse that I only use when
working on a system that I cant use the KVM or Synergy with
and its an irritation to go back to it now after the MX700.

Thats one significant problem with these high end mice, even
just the location of the back and forward browser buttons on
the mouse is enough of a nuisance when changing betwee them.

> I've had a few, and didn't like any of them.

I didnt mind mine until I started using the MX700.

> Even low end Logitech optical mice don't jump around
> like the MS mice did, especially the cheaper ones.

Mine doesnt jump around at all, Intellimouse optical.
Main problem is that its corded and I will never use
anything except a decent cordless much anymore.