I don't want to save a copy of this message [Archive]

Ext User(amosf © Tim Fairchild)

22-03-2006, 08:14 PM

Chock wrote something like:

>
> "amosf © Tim Fairchild" <usenet@bcs4me.com> wrote in message
> news:da44f3-8o.ln1@shiva.bcs4me.com...
>> Chock wrote something like:
>>
>> >
>> > "amosf © Tim Fairchild" <usenet@bcs4me.com> wrote in message
>> > news:4up3f3-7rv.ln1@shiva.bcs4me.com...
>> >> Chock wrote something like:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > "amosf © Tim Fairchild" <usenet@bcs4me.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:fhp2f3-l8r.ln1@shiva.bcs4me.com...
>> >> >> Peter Dingleberry wrote something like:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Will_S" <spam@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> >> >> >
> news:441e95f8$0$23166$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:4879ooFimj9bU1@individual.net...
>> >> >> >>> Will_S <spam@ozemail.com.au> wrote
>> >> >> >>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> >> >> >>>>> Will_S <spam@ozemail.com.au> wrote
>> >> >> >>>>>> doc <dpoc@NOS.iinet.net.au> wrote
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> I use Outlook Express for both email and news.
>> >> >> >>>>>>> It's not complicated, it does what I want, and it works.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> Except that it always saves a copy of my Usenet posts in
>> >> >> >>>>>>> the
>> > sent
>> >> >> >>>>>>> mail folder. Which for me serves no useful purpose.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> Is there any way I can turn this off and yet still save a
> copy
>> > of
>> >> >> >>>>>>> my emails?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> and no, I don't want to install Linux, nor open office, nor
>> > some
>> >> >> >>>>>>> dos based freeware news reader.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> easy
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Nope.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> go to tools/options/send and untick it
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>> That wont save the sent emails, thats what he clearly wants
>> >> >> >>>>> to
>> > do.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Well all he has to do is before he sends is click File /save
>> >> >> >>>> as
>> > and
>> >> >> >>>> make a folder where he wants to save it
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I doubt many can do that that reliably.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> which is really a pretty silly way to do it
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Yep.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> Now if he wants to save them in different folders then all he
> has
>> > to
>> >> >> >>>> do is create folders (right click local folders in OE and
> select
>> > New
>> >> >> >>>> Folder and call it whatever you like...make as many as you
>> >> >> >>>> want if you want to keep email according to your filing system
>> >> >> >>>> ) and then just drag them from sent items to that folder he
>> >> >> >>>> wants
> them
>> >> >> >>>> in
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Pete's approach is easier, just delete the newsgroup posts
>> >> >> >>> instead.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Yep, you go through and hit delete and sure enough you will end
> up
>> >> >> >> deleting some important post
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Up to him - he's already said he doesn't want to keep the NG
> posts -
>> >> >> > and by sorting alphabetically (on addressee), it's easy enough to
>> >> >> > delete
>> >> > onlly
>> >> >> > the NG posts.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Actually he would be better to use something like thunderbird
>> >> >> >> for email and oe for newsgroups.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The OP has said he doesn't want to do that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Maybe, but the best solution is still to use a dedicated
>> >> >> newsreader.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Not necessarily. He stated he didn't want a separate newsreader,
>> >> > presumably for a reason. That reason could be that he uses OE at
>> >> > work
>> > for
>> >> > email and also posts at work, but doesn't have permission to install
>> > extra
>> >> > software. So you can see that a dedicated newsreader is not a
> solution
>> > in
>> >> > this example.
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes what you want is not something you can easily get in
>> >> reality.
> I
>> >> want a free and legal brand new AMD 3800 PC. Any advice as to where I
> can
>> >> get one?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Sure, here you go:
>> >
>> >
>>
>
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/441f53c404c9b1d42740c0a87f9c071f/Product/View/XC2414
>> >
>> > What's that? It's not what you asked for? It's not free?
>> >
>> > But it's about as useful as the answer you gave to the OP.
>>
>> Thanks for the example. What I asked for was impossible. You showed me
>> the next best thing. This was exactly my point.
>>
>
> But my answer is still useless to you. A useful answer would be "Sorry,
> but what you ask is impossible".

Nope, you offered the next best solution in your opinion. There are no free
PC's, but if you need a PC, here is a cheap one.

>> >> > The fact that he specifically stated at the end of his post that he
>> >> > doesn't want to install any other stuff should be enough for people
> to
>> > not
>> >> > reply with answers outside of the parameters he has set.
>> >>
>> >> Sometimes you have to think outside the box and the reality is that OE
> is
>> >> not a great newsreader. It's just the way it is...
>> >>
>> >
>> > I don't necessarily dispute that. What I dispute is that the OP asked a
>> > particular question with specific parameters, but you disregarded them
>> > - thus your advice, no matter how correct or well-intentioned, was
> useless.
>>
>> Advocating that people move away from OE is never useless. If I can save
>> even one soul in a hundred from such a fate, then my work is done.
>>
>> The OP might be surprised how nice a real newsreader is and enjoy the
>> change. It seems at the moment they think that freeware newsreaders are
>> 'DOS based' and so are not interested. Of course in reality there are
>> many gui tools for the job.
>>
>
> But again, you don't know the reason why the OP said he didn't want
> replies advocating other newsreaders.

It doesn't matter to me. It can never hurt to suggest there is another
solution. In any case, any question to a forum like this will result in a
variety of responces. The OP can then take or leave any of those. You can
never know when they might decide to take a new path they had previously
never considered. Happens every day. I just sold a Blue border collie to a
person who definitely wanted a Black border collie. They had just never
considered buying a blue one, but thought it was cool once they saw what an
adult blue looked like.

>> >> But feel free to offer the advice you want and fix his problem. After
>> >> offering advice for 20 years on various forum types, I don't care
> whether
>> >> people like what I say or not. They are free to ignore it...
>> >>
>> >
>> > Feel free to keep posting answers to questions that no one has asked
>> > ...
>>
>> I will indeed. That will include suggestions such as moving away from
>> windows use on the internet at all. Again if even one person sees the
>> light, then it's a good deal.
>>
>> This groups is aus.computers after all, not aus.computers.windows
>>
>
> And here is the true motivation of your answer to the OP - your
> anti-Windows/Microsoft opinion which you are trying to push.

Nope, just more options. An alternative news reader (and email app) on
windows is a better solution that using insecure OE on windows. Using linux
on the internet is a better solution again.

The OP can take it or leave it. I work here for free.