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Ext User(Andy)
06-06-2006, 01:43 AM
Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels? If not why not?
the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
Ext User(David Z)
06-06-2006, 01:53 AM
Nissan Murano rear hatch is plastic. Due to the shape, they say.
"Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels? If not why not?
>
> the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
>
Ext User(Noddy)
06-06-2006, 02:03 AM
"Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels?
Not that I know of.
> If not why not?
They already have enough plastic as it is :)
I would imagine we'll find them becoming common sooner or later, but for now
the machinery retool costs would be a problem.
> the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
Good reason to not ever own one :)
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Ext User(Ben Thomas)
06-06-2006, 10:13 AM
Andy wrote:
> Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels? If not why not?
>
> the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
>
No Aussies have them, AFAIK.
My French Renault Megane has plastic front guards.
Ben
Ext User(stevesub)
06-06-2006, 11:13 AM
Landrover Freelander has plastic front guards - quite flexible so
should keep repair costs down for minor dings.
Stevesub
Ben Thomas wrote:
> Andy wrote:
> > Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels? If not why not?
> >
> > the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
> >
>
> No Aussies have them, AFAIK.
>
> My French Renault Megane has plastic front guards.
>
> Ben
Ext User(Andy)
06-06-2006, 11:23 AM
Ben Thomas wrote:
> Andy wrote:
> > Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels? If not why not?
> >
> > the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
> >
>
> No Aussies have them, AFAIK.
>
> My French Renault Megane has plastic front guards.
>
> Ben
Because Renault have a share in Nissan I guess.
Ext User(Ron)
06-06-2006, 12:13 PM
"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in
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> "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels?
>
> Not that I know of.
>
>> If not why not?
>
> They already have enough plastic as it is :)
>
> I would imagine we'll find them becoming common sooner or later, but
> for now the machinery retool costs would be a problem.
>
>> the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
>
> Good reason to not ever own one :)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
Do Jeep still have that plastic rear door?
Ext User(Ron)
06-06-2006, 12:13 PM
"Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels? If not why not?
>
> the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
>
Plastic guards are a good idea.
A little give and take before a huge dent.
Ext User(OzOne)
06-06-2006, 12:23 PM
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:26:26 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au>
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>"Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels?
>
>Not that I know of.
>
>> If not why not?
>
>They already have enough plastic as it is :)
>
>I would imagine we'll find them becoming common sooner or later, but for now
>the machinery retool costs would be a problem.
>
>> the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
>
>Good reason to not ever own one :)
Awwww...you'd miss the rust?
Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.
Ext User(Noddy)
06-06-2006, 01:33 PM
"Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Do Jeep still have that plastic rear door?
What one would that be?
Every one I've seen has been tin.
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Ext User(Noddy)
06-06-2006, 01:43 PM
"Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Plastic guards are a good idea.
> A little give and take before a huge dent.
They'd be a good idea if they were around a fiftieth the price of a
sheetmetal panel, which is around what it would cost to make them.
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Noddy.
Ext User(Bernd Felsche)
06-06-2006, 01:53 PM
"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> writes:
>"Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>> Plastic guards are a good idea.
>> A little give and take before a huge dent.
>They'd be a good idea if they were around a fiftieth the price of a
>sheetmetal panel, which is around what it would cost to make them.
Plastic parts tend to be more expensive to make.
Even the raw material is more expensive (by mass) than steel.
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Ext User(patrick@unknown (Patrick Young)
06-06-2006, 02:13 PM
In article <1149509458.612500.215640@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>, "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> writes:
> Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels? If not why not?
>
> the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
Don't really know what does and does not. That they would be highly
flammable would worry me a bit.
That said, the paint technology has been around in 2 pak paints as
an additive for a *very* long time to make it look like the real
thing.
I painted a plastic dirt bike guard with that stuff over 10 years ago
and its still ferpect - can flex the guard any which way and it still
sticks like shite to a blanket.
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Ext User(Ron)
06-06-2006, 02:23 PM
"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in news:4484d3bf$1
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> "Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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>> Do Jeep still have that plastic rear door?
>
> What one would that be?
>
> Every one I've seen has been tin.
The square 1990's job has a plastic rear door.
Apparently the plastic flexes and stops the dust getting in.
Ext User(Kev)
06-06-2006, 06:23 PM
Ron wrote:
> "Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in news:4484d3bf$1
> @news.comindico.com.au:
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>>"Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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>>>Do Jeep still have that plastic rear door?
>>
>>What one would that be?
>>
>>Every one I've seen has been tin.
>
>
> The square 1990's job has a plastic rear door.
> Apparently the plastic flexes and stops the dust getting in.
60 series landcruisers used to have fiberglass tailgates on the Gpak
Kev
Ext User(Scotty)
06-06-2006, 06:53 PM
"stevesub" <stevesub@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Landrover Freelander has plastic front guards - quite flexible so
> should keep repair costs down for minor dings.
>
> Stevesub
Except that the Land Rover repairers still charge the earth just to touch up
the paint so the car still looks new to the neighbours.
Ext User(Scotty)
06-06-2006, 06:53 PM
"Bernd Felsche" <bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> "Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> writes:
>>"Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>
>>> Plastic guards are a good idea.
>>> A little give and take before a huge dent.
>
>>They'd be a good idea if they were around a fiftieth the price of a
>>sheetmetal panel, which is around what it would cost to make them.
>
> Plastic parts tend to be more expensive to make.
>
> Even the raw material is more expensive (by mass) than steel.
> --
> /"\ Bernd Felsche - Innovative Reckoning, Perth, Western Australia
> \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | "Laws do not persuade just because
> X against HTML mail | they threaten."
> / \ and postings | Lucius Annaeus Seneca, c. 4BC - 65AD.
But made in 20 seconds not like steel (or some poor derivitive of) At least
plastic can be made in the correct colour so paint chips dont stand out and
then rust.
Ext User(Scotty)
06-06-2006, 06:53 PM
"Patrick Young <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU>" <patrick@unknown> wrote in
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> In article <1149509458.612500.215640@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>, "Andy"
> <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> Any Aussie made car using plastic car panels? If not why not?
>>
>> the X-trail has plastic front guads. Any others?
>
> Don't really know what does and does not. That they would be highly
> flammable would worry me a bit.
>
You probably have 20-30 Cubic litres of explosive in your boot and your
worried about the front guards being flammable?
Ext User(Noddy)
06-06-2006, 09:53 PM
"Bernd Felsche" <bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Plastic parts tend to be more expensive to make.
Blow moulded plastic compared to pressed sheet-metal?
There's probably not a lot in it either way, but if I had to pick I'd lean
towards plastic being the slightly cheaper manufacturing process. It tends
to be more automated.
> Even the raw material is more expensive (by mass) than steel.
You must be buying your products from the wrong supplier.
I could buy a tonne of plastic granules cheaper than a tonne of cold rolled
sheet metal, and I know which one would make more panels.
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Ext User(Noddy)
06-06-2006, 09:53 PM
"Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> The square 1990's job has a plastic rear door.
> Apparently the plastic flexes and stops the dust getting in.
Must be the Wrangler.
It has an optional plastic removable hardtop with a door. My Cherokee has
all metal bodywork.
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Noddy.
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