lubricating stater motor

[Ext User(boris)]

In winter my starter gets just that tiny bit colder & the shaft wont retract
immediately...its an ugly noise. I open it once at the start of winter when
it first does it & spray some 'lock lube' (graphite in a spray can) onto the
shaft. This fixes it for maybe a month or 2 at a time.

Is there a better product i should be using like a teflon ?

[Ext User(Albm&ctd)]

In article <128a6pogdgca257@corp.supernews.com>, cat@dog.com says...
> In winter my starter gets just that tiny bit colder & the shaft wont retract
> immediately...its an ugly noise. I open it once at the start of winter when
> it first does it & spray some 'lock lube' (graphite in a spray can) onto the
> shaft. This fixes it for maybe a month or 2 at a time.
>
> Is there a better product i should be using like a teflon ?
>
You could try just about any lube that doesn't collect dirt. Tried moly
spray? I bought some from Blackwoods?? about 12 years ago, was $35 IIRC.

Al
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[Ext User(John_H)]

boris wrote:

>In winter my starter gets just that tiny bit colder & the shaft wont retract
>immediately...its an ugly noise. I open it once at the start of winter when
>it first does it & spray some 'lock lube' (graphite in a spray can) onto the
>shaft. This fixes it for maybe a month or 2 at a time.
>
>Is there a better product i should be using like a teflon ?
>

What type of starter might it happen to be???
Just a few possibilities are....

pre-engage pinion,
inertia drive,
bendix drive,
air operated,
pilot motor,
crank handle....

Which more or less covers the more common types. They can also differ
somewhat between brands, of which there are probably dozens. Some
manufacturers are game enough to put their name on them while others
aren't so confident.

You might also happen to find a little plate underneath the bonnet
(usually rivetted to the firewall) that gives the make and model of
vehicle. You'd no doubt be amazed as to just how useful such
information can be in the total absence of any other clue.

--
John H

[Ext User(atec77)]

boris wrote:
> In winter my starter gets just that tiny bit colder & the shaft wont retract
> immediately...its an ugly noise. I open it once at the start of winter when
> it first does it & spray some 'lock lube' (graphite in a spray can) onto the
> shaft. This fixes it for maybe a month or 2 at a time.
>
> Is there a better product i should be using like a teflon ?
>
>
Grab some of the lube used on mig welders and try it... usually works
well ( its sillycone:)

[Ext User(boris)]

Tks john...its on a BMW bike..very similar to a car. Sits out beside the
donk very easily to access. Bike has a dry clutch & is quite 'car like' I
can drop it out in 5 mins flat.
http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/

I know i should pull it apart & clean it properly but even if i do this...i
still would like to lube the shaft & starter pinion to stop it happening
again. The site talks about moly grease but is this suited to a qld summer ?
So many sites on the net refer to north america & europe so i assume diff
lubes are needed.


"John_H" <john4271@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hj8a82db4ogjk8s3l4dke8cjg1umnncg0p@4ax.com...
> boris wrote:
>
> >In winter my starter gets just that tiny bit colder & the shaft wont
retract
> >immediately...its an ugly noise. I open it once at the start of winter
when
> >it first does it & spray some 'lock lube' (graphite in a spray can) onto
the
> >shaft. This fixes it for maybe a month or 2 at a time.
> >
> >Is there a better product i should be using like a teflon ?
> >
>
> What type of starter might it happen to be???
> Just a few possibilities are....
>
> pre-engage pinion,
> inertia drive,
> bendix drive,
> air operated,
> pilot motor,
> crank handle....
>
> Which more or less covers the more common types. They can also differ
> somewhat between brands, of which there are probably dozens. Some
> manufacturers are game enough to put their name on them while others
> aren't so confident.
>
> You might also happen to find a little plate underneath the bonnet
> (usually rivetted to the firewall) that gives the make and model of
> vehicle. You'd no doubt be amazed as to just how useful such
> information can be in the total absence of any other clue.
>
> --
> John H

[Ext User(Albm&ctd)]

In article <128abgs811a9be@corp.supernews.com>, cat@dog.com says...
> Tks john...its on a BMW bike..very similar to a car. Sits out beside the
> donk very easily to access. Bike has a dry clutch & is quite 'car like' I
> can drop it out in 5 mins flat.
> http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/
>
> I know i should pull it apart & clean it properly but even if i do this...i
> still would like to lube the shaft & starter pinion to stop it happening
> again. The site talks about moly grease but is this suited to a qld summer ?
> So many sites on the net refer to north america & europe so i assume diff
> lubes are needed.
>
Use moly grease on my chain in Qld. Does that tell you anything, Bavarian
Mower Works owner :-0
I'd still avoid anything that would collect dirt on a starter shaft
especially if you travel dirt roads.

Al
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[Ext User(boris)]

Tks atec...i have a good supply of high quality silicone grease. No troubles
with it going doggo in our summer ?


"atec77" <atec77##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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....
> boris wrote:
> > In winter my starter gets just that tiny bit colder & the shaft wont
retract
> > immediately...its an ugly noise. I open it once at the start of winter
when
> > it first does it & spray some 'lock lube' (graphite in a spray can) onto
the
> > shaft. This fixes it for maybe a month or 2 at a time.
> >
> > Is there a better product i should be using like a teflon ?
> >
> >
> Grab some of the lube used on mig welders and try it... usually works
> well ( its sillycone:)

[Ext User(atec77)]

boris wrote:
> Tks atec...i have a good supply of high quality silicone grease. No troubles
> with it going doggo in our summer ?
>
>
> "atec77" <atec77##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:44853359$0$17541$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au
> ...
>> boris wrote:
>>> In winter my starter gets just that tiny bit colder & the shaft wont
> retract
>>> immediately...its an ugly noise. I open it once at the start of winter
> when
>>> it first does it & spray some 'lock lube' (graphite in a spray can) onto
> the
>>> shaft. This fixes it for maybe a month or 2 at a time.
>>>
>>> Is there a better product i should be using like a teflon ?
>>>
>>>
>> Grab some of the lube used on mig welders and try it... usually works
>> well ( its sillycone:)
>
>
Dunno , I use the mig spray on the K199 with out a problem

[Ext User(JD)]

Albm&ctd wrote:

> In article <128abgs811a9be@corp.supernews.com>, cat@dog.com says...
>> Tks john...its on a BMW bike..very similar to a car. Sits out beside the
>> donk very easily to access. Bike has a dry clutch & is quite 'car like' I
>> can drop it out in 5 mins flat.
>> http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/
>>
>> I know i should pull it apart & clean it properly but even if i do
>> this...i still would like to lube the shaft & starter pinion to stop it
>> happening again. The site talks about moly grease but is this suited to a
>> qld summer ? So many sites on the net refer to north america & europe so
>> i assume diff lubes are needed.
>>
> Use moly grease on my chain in Qld. Does that tell you anything, Bavarian
> Mower Works owner :-0
> I'd still avoid anything that would collect dirt on a starter shaft
> especially if you travel dirt roads.
>
> Al

Absolutely! Iwould be inclined to disassemble it, clean it, and lubricate
with a completely dry lubricant, probably powdered graphite. Should work
for quite a long time.
JD

[Ext User(Albm&ctd)]

In article <44855f84@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, jjd@spamlesstpgi.com.au says...
> Albm&ctd wrote:
>
> > In article <128abgs811a9be@corp.supernews.com>, cat@dog.com says...
> >> Tks john...its on a BMW bike..very similar to a car. Sits out beside the
> >> donk very easily to access. Bike has a dry clutch & is quite 'car like' I
> >> can drop it out in 5 mins flat.
> >> http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/
> >>
> >> I know i should pull it apart & clean it properly but even if i do
> >> this...i still would like to lube the shaft & starter pinion to stop it
> >> happening again. The site talks about moly grease but is this suited to a
> >> qld summer ? So many sites on the net refer to north america & europe so
> >> i assume diff lubes are needed.
> >>
> > Use moly grease on my chain in Qld. Does that tell you anything, Bavarian
> > Mower Works owner :-0
> > I'd still avoid anything that would collect dirt on a starter shaft
> > especially if you travel dirt roads.
> >
> > Al
>
> Absolutely! Iwould be inclined to disassemble it, clean it, and lubricate
> with a completely dry lubricant, probably powdered graphite. Should work
> for quite a long time.
> JD
>
I just went to the Blackwoods site and found a Loctite product that may
do the job.

"ANTI SEIZE SPRAY REG LOCTITE 76756 200GM

Blackwoods Part No:
05133600

Manufacturers Part No:
76756-1

Product Description:
General purpose anti-seize lubricant with copper, and graphite.
Protects metal joints from seizure. Prevents galling and corrosion on
threads. Lubricates chains, fasteners, slow moving bearings in hot
corrosive environments etc.
Temperature range: -55°C to +870°C.
General purpose workshop use."


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[Ext User(JD)]

Albm&ctd wrote:

> In article <44855f84@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, jjd@spamlesstpgi.com.au says...
>> Albm&ctd wrote:
>>
>> > In article <128abgs811a9be@corp.supernews.com>, cat@dog.com says...
>> >> Tks john...its on a BMW bike..very similar to a car. Sits out beside
>> >> the donk very easily to access. Bike has a dry clutch & is quite 'car
>> >> like' I can drop it out in 5 mins flat.
>> >> http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/
>> >>
>> >> I know i should pull it apart & clean it properly but even if i do
>> >> this...i still would like to lube the shaft & starter pinion to stop
>> >> it happening again. The site talks about moly grease but is this
>> >> suited to a qld summer ? So many sites on the net refer to north
>> >> america & europe so i assume diff lubes are needed.
>> >>
>> > Use moly grease on my chain in Qld. Does that tell you anything,
>> > Bavarian Mower Works owner :-0
>> > I'd still avoid anything that would collect dirt on a starter shaft
>> > especially if you travel dirt roads.
>> >
>> > Al
>>
>> Absolutely! Iwould be inclined to disassemble it, clean it, and lubricate
>> with a completely dry lubricant, probably powdered graphite. Should work
>> for quite a long time.
>> JD
>>
> I just went to the Blackwoods site and found a Loctite product that may
> do the job.
>
> "ANTI SEIZE SPRAY REG LOCTITE 76756 200GM
>
> Blackwoods Part No:
> 05133600
>
> Manufacturers Part No:
> 76756-1
>
> Product Description:
> General purpose anti-seize lubricant with copper, and graphite.
> Protects metal joints from seizure. Prevents galling and corrosion on
> threads. Lubricates chains, fasteners, slow moving bearings in hot
> corrosive environments etc.
> Temperature range: -55°C to +870°C.
> General purpose workshop use."
>
>
> Al

This product, in common with most other antiseize products contains grease
and will collect dust, eventually gumming up the works.
JD

[Ext User(Albm&ctd)]

In article <4486a1f6@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, jjd@spamlesstpgi.com.au says...
> Albm&ctd wrote:
>
> > In article <44855f84@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, jjd@spamlesstpgi.com.au says....
> >> Albm&ctd wrote:
> >>
> >> > In article <128abgs811a9be@corp.supernews.com>, cat@dog.com says...
> >> >> Tks john...its on a BMW bike..very similar to a car. Sits out beside
> >> >> the donk very easily to access. Bike has a dry clutch & is quite 'car
> >> >> like' I can drop it out in 5 mins flat.
> >> >> http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/
> >> >>
> >> >> I know i should pull it apart & clean it properly but even if i do
> >> >> this...i still would like to lube the shaft & starter pinion to stop
> >> >> it happening again. The site talks about moly grease but is this
> >> >> suited to a qld summer ? So many sites on the net refer to north
> >> >> america & europe so i assume diff lubes are needed.
> >> >>
> >> > Use moly grease on my chain in Qld. Does that tell you anything,
> >> > Bavarian Mower Works owner :-0
> >> > I'd still avoid anything that would collect dirt on a starter shaft
> >> > especially if you travel dirt roads.
> >> >
> >> > Al
> >>
> >> Absolutely! Iwould be inclined to disassemble it, clean it, and lubricate
> >> with a completely dry lubricant, probably powdered graphite. Should work
> >> for quite a long time.
> >> JD
> >>
> > I just went to the Blackwoods site and found a Loctite product that may
> > do the job.
> >
> > "ANTI SEIZE SPRAY REG LOCTITE 76756 200GM
> >
> > Blackwoods Part No:
> > 05133600
> >
> > Manufacturers Part No:
> > 76756-1
> >
> > Product Description:
> > General purpose anti-seize lubricant with copper, and graphite.
> > Protects metal joints from seizure. Prevents galling and corrosion on
> > threads. Lubricates chains, fasteners, slow moving bearings in hot
> > corrosive environments etc.
> > Temperature range: -55°C to +870°C.
> > General purpose workshop use."
> >
> >
> > Al
>
> This product, in common with most other antiseize products contains grease
> and will collect dust, eventually gumming up the works.
> JD
>
Yebbut it's a BMW so it won't get dust on it (yucky dirt roads, ee poo)
and doesn't have a chain driven final drive like a proper motorcycle ;-)

Al
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