FS: Bravo PRO Autoprinter

[Ext User(ON2DVD®)]

We have a relatively new ex demo Primera Bravo PRO Autoprinter for sale.
Location Adelaide, shipping $100 anywhere.
Price is $2900 incl GST with full warranty

Details on this printer here
http://on2dvd.com.au/store/product_info.php?products_id=58

For more information please contact me through our website
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http://on2dvd.com.au/store

[Ext User(ken)]

On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:39:25 GMT, "ON2DVD®"
<sales@on2dvd<remove>.com.au> wrote:

>We have a relatively new ex demo Primera Bravo PRO Autoprinter for sale.

Why do you post "we" when you are a sole trader ?

Ps. Those bravo printers smudge on most ink jet media.
Better to buy a cheap Canon cd printer which does a better print and
only costs $200

>Location Adelaide, shipping $100 anywhere.
>Price is $2900 incl GST with full warranty
>
>Details on this printer here
>http://on2dvd.com.au/store/product_info.php?products_id=58
>
>For more information please contact me through our website

[Ext User(ON2DVD®)]

On 20-Jun-2006, ken <ken@ken.com> wrote:

> >We have a relatively new ex demo Primera Bravo PRO Autoprinter for sale.
>
> Why do you post "we" when you are a sole trader ?
>
> Ps. Those bravo printers smudge on most ink jet media.
> Better to buy a cheap Canon cd printer which does a better print and
> only costs $200
>
> >Location Adelaide, shipping $100 anywhere.
> >Price is $2900 incl GST with full warranty
> >
> >Details on this printer here
> >http://on2dvd.com.au/store/product_info.php?products_id=58
> >
> >For more information please contact me through our website

You have no idea what you are talking about Ken. Or maybe, perhaps, you used
one, once in your life, but you bodged it up!!!!
You are just a troll anyways.

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[Ext User(ken)]

On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:38:58 GMT, "ON2DVD®"
<sales@on2dvd<remove>.com.au> wrote:

>
>On 20-Jun-2006, ken <ken@ken.com> wrote:
>
>> >We have a relatively new ex demo Primera Bravo PRO Autoprinter for sale.
>>
>> Why do you post "we" when you are a sole trader ?
>>
>> Ps. Those bravo printers smudge on most ink jet media.
>> Better to buy a cheap Canon cd printer which does a better print and
>> only costs $200
>>
>> >Location Adelaide, shipping $100 anywhere.
>> >Price is $2900 incl GST with full warranty
>> >
>> >Details on this printer here
>> >http://on2dvd.com.au/store/product_info.php?products_id=58
>> >
>> >For more information please contact me through our website
>
>You have no idea what you are talking about Ken. Or maybe, perhaps, you used
>one, once in your life, but you bodged it up!!!!
>You are just a troll anyways.

Have two of them at work. The pro and the older bravo II which only
holds 25 media. The bravo pro holds 100 media for printing. The ones
at work are always having problems with them. Is it why you are
selling yours as a private sale too ?

Why is shipping $100. The bravo printers are smaller than a regular
printer. Freight ought not to be more than about $30 anywhere in oz.

At work we've since bought in a few canons why one of the bravo's is
getting repaired again.

Still if you do not believe me then read all the reports of problems
here.

Here is a review warning about the bravo printers.
http://www.dealtime.com/xPR-Primera_Bravo_AutoPrinter~RD-139964812932

From the above url.

Full Review
There are few major problems with the machine. The ink is very
expensive. The unit drops the disks on a regular basis, and when that
happens the unit just stops. This is a big problems when you have
deadlines. My unit has not been very reliable. My machine has had
limited use, but is mechanically defective after about a year. PRIMERA
does not care about customers, or at least they wont help you get a
broken unit fixed or working. After multiple calls and emails I can
not get any help. They want ten dollars per call, which I would have
to pay to get an RMA, but I cant get through. NO 800 numbers, and they
do not reply to email. Wait till you get to buy a box and send it in
to get a manufacturers defect fixed that you get to pay for. I would
take a long look at the pros and cons before buying. When it works it
is great, but when it doesn't, well.....

I can post hundreds of other url comments on the bravo and bravo pro
printers if you require further proof.

[Ext User(ON2DVD®)]

On 20-Jun-2006, ken <ken@ken.com> wrote:

> Have two of them at work. The pro and the older bravo II which only
> holds 25 media. The bravo pro holds 100 media for printing. The ones
> at work are always having problems with them. Is it why you are
> selling yours as a private sale too ?
>
> Why is shipping $100. The bravo printers are smaller than a regular
> printer. Freight ought not to be more than about $30 anywhere in oz.
>
> At work we've since bought in a few canons why one of the bravo's is
> getting repaired again.
>
> Still if you do not believe me then read all the reports of problems
> here.
>
> Here is a review warning about the bravo printers.
> http://www.dealtime.com/xPR-Primera_Bravo_AutoPrinter~RD-139964812932
>
> From the above url.
>
> Full Review
> There are few major problems with the machine. The ink is very
> expensive. The unit drops the disks on a regular basis, and when that
> happens the unit just stops. This is a big problems when you have
> deadlines. My unit has not been very reliable. My machine has had
> limited use, but is mechanically defective after about a year. PRIMERA
> does not care about customers, or at least they wont help you get a
> broken unit fixed or working. After multiple calls and emails I can
> not get any help. They want ten dollars per call, which I would have
> to pay to get an RMA, but I cant get through. NO 800 numbers, and they
> do not reply to email. Wait till you get to buy a box and send it in
> to get a manufacturers defect fixed that you get to pay for. I would
> take a long look at the pros and cons before buying. When it works it
> is great, but when it doesn't, well.....
>
> I can post hundreds of other url comments on the bravo and bravo pro
> printers if you require further proof.

I am selling to get the newer XR with server.
I have not had the issues that you seem to have. I have had those cheap $200
printers before and while they are good they are not better than the Primera
and OH YEAH, they are manual operation of 1 disc only.
Why did your work buy them, didn't you show them these URL's?
They are the best selling disc publishers in the world, with so many sales
you are going to get some people (even lots) that have complaints about this
or that. But there's simply so many out there that are using them without
problems. It's typical human nature to speak up when you're not happy but
when you are, you just get on with other things.
The Primera Bravo PRO Autoprinter box is at least 2.5 times larger than a
regular printer. How you could possibly think it's smaller is beyond me.....
please explain.
Freight will be insured.

If anyone is interested in this BTW, I can show you first hand how great
this is without smears,blotches or any other imperfections that Ken believes
there are.

Thanks for your input Ken, again, you only have something negative to say.
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[Ext User(ken)]

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:15:57 GMT, "ON2DVD®"
<sales@on2dvd<remove>.com.au> wrote:

>
>On 20-Jun-2006, ken <ken@ken.com> wrote:
>
>> Have two of them at work. The pro and the older bravo II which only
>> holds 25 media. The bravo pro holds 100 media for printing. The ones
>> at work are always having problems with them. Is it why you are
>> selling yours as a private sale too ?
>>
>> Why is shipping $100. The bravo printers are smaller than a regular
>> printer. Freight ought not to be more than about $30 anywhere in oz.
>>
>> At work we've since bought in a few canons why one of the bravo's is
>> getting repaired again.
>>
>> Still if you do not believe me then read all the reports of problems
>> here.
>>
>> Here is a review warning about the bravo printers.
>> http://www.dealtime.com/xPR-Primera_Bravo_AutoPrinter~RD-139964812932
>>
>> From the above url.
>>
>> Full Review
>> There are few major problems with the machine. The ink is very
>> expensive. The unit drops the disks on a regular basis, and when that
>> happens the unit just stops. This is a big problems when you have
>> deadlines. My unit has not been very reliable. My machine has had
>> limited use, but is mechanically defective after about a year. PRIMERA
>> does not care about customers, or at least they wont help you get a
>> broken unit fixed or working. After multiple calls and emails I can
>> not get any help. They want ten dollars per call, which I would have
>> to pay to get an RMA, but I cant get through. NO 800 numbers, and they
>> do not reply to email. Wait till you get to buy a box and send it in
>> to get a manufacturers defect fixed that you get to pay for. I would
>> take a long look at the pros and cons before buying. When it works it
>> is great, but when it doesn't, well.....
>>
>> I can post hundreds of other url comments on the bravo and bravo pro
>> printers if you require further proof.
>
>I am selling to get the newer XR with server.
>I have not had the issues that you seem to have. I have had those cheap $200
>printers before and while they are good they are not better than the Primera
>and OH YEAH, they are manual operation of 1 disc only.
>Why did your work buy them, didn't you show them these URL's?
>They are the best selling disc publishers in the world, with so many sales
>you are going to get some people (even lots) that have complaints about this
>or that. But there's simply so many out there that are using them without
>problems. It's typical human nature to speak up when you're not happy but
>when you are, you just get on with other things.
>The Primera Bravo PRO Autoprinter box is at least 2.5 times larger than a
>regular printer. How you could possibly think it's smaller is beyond me.....
>please explain.
>Freight will be insured.
>
>If anyone is interested in this BTW, I can show you first hand how great
>this is without smears,blotches or any other imperfections that Ken believes
>there are.
>
>Thanks for your input Ken, again, you only have something negative to say.

If posting facts an dbacking it up is negative then that says more
about you does it not.

Of course you have to say that because you are trying to flog off the
one yourself as a private sale.

$100 for freight, yeah right. Over charging as per usual.

[Ext User(ON2DVD®)]

On 21-Jun-2006, ken <ken@ken.com> wrote:

> If posting facts an dbacking it up is negative then that says more
> about you does it not.
>
> Of course you have to say that because you are trying to flog off the
> one yourself as a private sale.
>
> $100 for freight, yeah right. Over charging as per usual.

Every product ever made would have some negative reviews from someone
somewhere in the world. Did you post any URL's with positve feedback? No
because you are not here to make positive on anything, you juat want to do
what you do best----- cause trouble.

Here's a quote for you!! from here
http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?CategoryID=23&ArticleID=9633
where it was awarded editors choice.
I was especially impressed with the unit's labeling speed and quality during
my testing. For example, used for just labeling, the BravoPro took only
12:30 to impart full surface images to ten discs at its default settings and
21:05 at its highest quality (slowest cases). In addition to regular
printable discs from Verbatim, Glyphics/MBI, and Maxell, I had the
opportunity to try DVDs from Verbatim, TDK, and Maxell that employ the
latest "photo quality" printable coatings. Although more expensive than
average printable media, these discs are to conventional inkjet-printable
media what glossy photo stocks are to standard inkjet paper and truly take
advantage of the BravoPro's high-resolution capability. Graphic, text, and
photographic results were superb with brilliant and bold images, fine
details, and a smooth, glass-like gloss appearance--all with fast drying
times and good durability.
Go jump in the lake Ken, you are a tart!! It wouldn't matter what I was
trying to sell, you would pick and pick like a GIRL!

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[Ext User(Kym Kim \(Noturyulo\))]

"ken" <ken@ken.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:39:25 GMT, "ON2DVD®"
> <sales@on2dvd<remove>.com.au> wrote:
>
>>We have a relatively new ex demo Primera Bravo PRO Autoprinter for sale.
>
> Why do you post "we" when you are a sole trader ?

Plenty of sole traders have hundreds of employees!

[Ext User(ken)]

On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:03:10 GMT, "Kym Kim \(Noturyulo\)"
<kim@foreward.com> wrote:

>
>"ken" <ken@ken.com> wrote in message
>news:73jf92ts9oma66gouu5g4euv2hrdcp3r23@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:39:25 GMT, "ON2DVD®"
>> <sales@on2dvd<remove>.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>We have a relatively new ex demo Primera Bravo PRO Autoprinter for sale.
>>
>> Why do you post "we" when you are a sole trader ?
>
>Plenty of sole traders have hundreds of employees!
>

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