Can you use bio-diesel in all diesels ?

[Ext User(boris)]

Ok...bought the vee dub 2lt turbo diesel yesterday...man has that little car
got some great torque (for a chicks car anyway)

I can well assume that VW will say that i void my warranty if i come in with
a problem & have a tank full of the stuff. Been searching the net & found
lots of conflicting info.

The aussie site http://www.biodiesel.org.au/ does not appear to list any
specific models. They do mention in the performance section that biodiesel
will soften and degrade certain types of elastomers and natural rubber
compounds over time.

[Ext User(John Henderson)]

boris wrote:

> Ok...bought the vee dub 2lt turbo diesel yesterday...man has
> that little car got some great torque (for a chicks car
> anyway)
>
> I can well assume that VW will say that i void my warranty if
> i come in with a problem & have a tank full of the stuff. Been
> searching the net & found lots of conflicting info.
>
> The aussie site http://www.biodiesel.org.au/ does not appear
> to list any specific models. They do mention in the
> performance section that biodiesel will soften and degrade
> certain types of elastomers and natural rubber compounds over
> time.

The VW site http://tinyurl.com/hm89p (look under biodiesel) says
to check your owner's manual for a specific mention of
biodiesel compatibility.

VW has been using biodiesel-friendly rubber since the early 90s.

Newer direct injection models might have some issues. My 96
indirect injection Transporter runs fine on biodiesel when I
can find it. If you don't want to make your own, see
http://www.grownfuel.com/buybiodiesel/index.html for where to
buy in Australia.

If you haven't already found it,
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html has a vast amount of
information.

John

[Ext User(boris)]

Tks for your time john...will have a read of your links now.


"John Henderson" <jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> wrote in message
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> boris wrote:
>
> > Ok...bought the vee dub 2lt turbo diesel yesterday...man has
> > that little car got some great torque (for a chicks car
> > anyway)
> >
> > I can well assume that VW will say that i void my warranty if
> > i come in with a problem & have a tank full of the stuff. Been
> > searching the net & found lots of conflicting info.
> >
> > The aussie site http://www.biodiesel.org.au/ does not appear
> > to list any specific models. They do mention in the
> > performance section that biodiesel will soften and degrade
> > certain types of elastomers and natural rubber compounds over
> > time.
>
> The VW site http://tinyurl.com/hm89p (look under biodiesel) says
> to check your owner's manual for a specific mention of
> biodiesel compatibility.
>
> VW has been using biodiesel-friendly rubber since the early 90s.
>
> Newer direct injection models might have some issues. My 96
> indirect injection Transporter runs fine on biodiesel when I
> can find it. If you don't want to make your own, see
> http://www.grownfuel.com/buybiodiesel/index.html for where to
> buy in Australia.
>
> If you haven't already found it,
> http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html has a vast amount of
> information.
>
> John

[Ext User(patrick@unknown (Patrick Young)]

In article <4g6j9gF1ma3qtU1@individual.net>, John Henderson <jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> writes:
> boris wrote:

> VW has been using biodiesel-friendly rubber since the early 90s.

That is prolly the main issue. The rubber seals got used to a particular
type of fuel. Low sulphur fuel stuffed that. The issue was a bit of
a cover up as I knew about it when low sulphur fuel was introduced in
the US in the early 90s, then the exact same problem happened here.
IIRC this was a result of the hydrocracking process.

> Newer direct injection models might have some issues. My 96
> indirect injection Transporter runs fine on biodiesel when I
> can find it. If you don't want to make your own, see

Can't speak for newer common rail diesels, however after already
knowing about seal problems above have been caught out with an injection
pump top cover seal failure when low sulphur diesel was introduced here.

Other than mine being a purely mechanical diesel whose design dates
back 20 years or so now, I've tested fuels in it you don't even wanna
imagine, right from a test unhooking the fuel supply fuel hose and
gradually adding petrol to a container of diesel to see at want point
the engine would stall, through to feeding it it's own used engine oil,
kero, pretty much the lot. Ah, still gotta understand the white spirit
thing fully though.

> If you haven't already found it,
> http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html has a vast amount of
> information.

Yep, 2nd that - that's the site I've used. Most excellent.

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[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 06:08:58 GMT, Patrick Young
<patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU> wrote:

> Other than mine being a purely mechanical diesel whose design dates
> back 20 years or so
??????

Settle down..



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[Ext User(patrick@unknown (Patrick Young)]

In article <gkwgob2ju24l$.1c4ximug3mesb$.dlg@40tude.net>, Toby Ponsenby <toby@privacy.net> writes:
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 06:08:58 GMT, Patrick Young
> <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU> wrote:
>
>> Other than mine being a purely mechanical diesel whose design dates
>> back 20 years or so
> ??????
>
> Settle down..

Dunno really when the 2L/3L engine design came about. That is me
best guess for 3L - 2L diesel would be way before then. All a series
of LASRE (Lightweight Advanced Super Responsive Engine) - without
a turbo, yup, a bit "yeah right, and?". Almost as plausible as calling
a small shitebox car a Ford Laser/Meteor. However these diesel engines
can be set up to work quite well.

I've just got a thing for mechanical turbo diesels :-p

As a lot of people here point out, nothing has to be the latest
and greatest in order to piss on newer shite in certain ways.

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