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Ext User(Scoobity Doobity Doo)
02-07-2006, 05:55 AM
I have just relocated to a larger block and will be erecting a shed down
the back.

I am on the central coast NSW and am wondering which company is best?

Peter Brock shed, I think it is fair dinkum are the cheapest but
cheapest isn't normally the best.

Ranbuils is offering a free heater, which I am not getting too excited
about but they do have a check list how they compare to the others and
after a few calls only one other company can get 5 compared to their 17
checks. I never knew anyone can make garaged without the brackets being
strength tested,

Tri Steel seems good, good strong product and good price but I am a bit
ocncerned with a comany that still does hand written quotes in the IT age.

I rang one a few weeks back in Victoria, I called them back last week
and no answer, did a net search and they had gone broke. Glad I didn't
send any cash their way.

One of them is owned by BHP ( can't remember which one) which would kind
of help get your shed if the franchise went broke.

Anyone had any good experience with shed companies

I will be building a 4 bay shed, lots of room to do up the FJ

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- Scoobity Doobity Doo

Ext User(CyBorg 0091)
02-07-2006, 07:43 AM
Scoobity Doobity Doo wrote:
> I have just relocated to a larger block and will be erecting a shed down
> the back.
>
> I am on the central coast NSW and am wondering which company is best?
>
> Peter Brock shed, I think it is fair dinkum are the cheapest but
> cheapest isn't normally the best.
>
> Ranbuils is offering a free heater, which I am not getting too excited
> about but they do have a check list how they compare to the others and
> after a few calls only one other company can get 5 compared to their 17
> checks. I never knew anyone can make garaged without the brackets being
> strength tested,
>
> Tri Steel seems good, good strong product and good price but I am a bit
> ocncerned with a comany that still does hand written quotes in the IT age.
>
> I rang one a few weeks back in Victoria, I called them back last week
> and no answer, did a net search and they had gone broke. Glad I didn't
> send any cash their way.
>
> One of them is owned by BHP ( can't remember which one) which would kind
> of help get your shed if the franchise went broke.
>
> Anyone had any good experience with shed companies
>
> I will be building a 4 bay shed, lots of room to do up the FJ
>
> --
> - Scoobity Doobity Doo

Not sure...out this way we use Tree's and second hand roofing iron if
available,if not shingles,works out free in most cases,there is no iron
ore out this way....
Every car restoration workshop needs a cement floor with floor heating,
this can add to the cost,4 bays of cement can be done for under 1k if
you got a trailer and a pick and a cement shop.
As for floor heating I run hot water through the floor in plastic high
pressure hose,from my hotwater cylinder which is powered by the wood
stove in my house.I have a tap where I can disable hotwater flow to the
shed,if the fire goes out.

Experience with the sheds you talk of?.....all cost a shitload of
money,I recently did some work errecting a 50k shed at an industrial
site,the concrete slab cost 12k alone,the shed 50k.
What a ****ing waste of money.you don't get much a of shed for 60k.
4 large truck sized bays....all big bloat and gloat with price and
labour.
The local gov co actually decided that that concrete slab must be
picked up and moved 1 meter to the left after it was laid and set and
after they had given full approval, 48- 65 tons of cement.
It did not get moved!
local gov co is the flying circus....keep well away from any of their
regs if you ask me.

Ext User(David \(one of the many\))
02-07-2006, 06:03 PM
"Scoobity Doobity Doo" <barryr@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
news:93wpg.19530$ap3.14931@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I have just relocated to a larger block and will be erecting a shed down
> the back.
>
> I am on the central coast NSW and am wondering which company is best?
>
> Peter Brock shed, I think it is fair dinkum are the cheapest but
> cheapest isn't normally the best.
>
> Ranbuils is offering a free heater, which I am not getting too excited
> about but they do have a check list how they compare to the others and
> after a few calls only one other company can get 5 compared to their 17
> checks. I never knew anyone can make garaged without the brackets being
> strength tested,

Steel Modular Systems at Ourimbah, 4362-3308

We have bought a double garage (2001) and a three bay barn style shed (2004)
from them and we are very happy with the sheds. We assembled the barn
ourselves and had them install the garage (though its used as a shed)

Ranbuild were more expensive for both projects and although they knew what
they were talking about the SMS guys seemed to know the products better.
They also use their own construction people instead of contractors and were
all round more professional. The Tri-Steel franchise guy was OK but the
product was more difficult to customise.

I also looked at disassmebling and rebuilding a few second hand sheds... far
too much drama for me.... easier to have a new one delivered than to
disassemble, transport and re-erect.

Ext User(Saus29)
02-07-2006, 06:13 PM
get a brocky shed and then steal your mates wife and stick her in it.

"Scoobity Doobity Doo" <barryr@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
news:93wpg.19530$ap3.14931@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>I have just relocated to a larger block and will be erecting a shed down
>the back.
>
> I am on the central coast NSW and am wondering which company is best?
>
> Peter Brock shed, I think it is fair dinkum are the cheapest but cheapest
> isn't normally the best.
>
> Ranbuils is offering a free heater, which I am not getting too excited
> about but they do have a check list how they compare to the others and
> after a few calls only one other company can get 5 compared to their 17
> checks. I never knew anyone can make garaged without the brackets being
> strength tested,
>
> Tri Steel seems good, good strong product and good price but I am a bit
> ocncerned with a comany that still does hand written quotes in the IT age.
>
> I rang one a few weeks back in Victoria, I called them back last week and
> no answer, did a net search and they had gone broke. Glad I didn't send
> any cash their way.
>
> One of them is owned by BHP ( can't remember which one) which would kind
> of help get your shed if the franchise went broke.
>
> Anyone had any good experience with shed companies
>
> I will be building a 4 bay shed, lots of room to do up the FJ
>
> --
> - Scoobity Doobity Doo

Ext User(ant)
02-07-2006, 08:43 PM
CyBorg 0091 wrote:

> The local gov co actually decided that that concrete slab must be
> picked up and moved 1 meter to the left after it was laid and set and
> after they had given full approval, 48- 65 tons of cement.
> It did not get moved!
> local gov co is the flying circus....keep well away from any of their
> regs if you ask me.

some people near me got some kind of revenge on council regulations. They
first built a standard looking shed on their place. Then the shed got a
verandah. And curtains. Then (some years on) the shed got an extension -
more shed. And a very nice little garden.

That shed is plainly not a shed! Good on them.

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ant

Ext User(Bernd Felsche)
02-07-2006, 10:33 PM
"David \(one of the many\)" <none@none.none> writes:
>"Scoobity Doobity Doo" <barryr@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message

>> I have just relocated to a larger block and will be erecting a
>> shed down the back.

>> I am on the central coast NSW and am wondering which company is
>> best?

>> Peter Brock shed, I think it is fair dinkum are the cheapest but
>> cheapest isn't normally the best.

>> Ranbuils is offering a free heater, which I am not getting too
>> excited about but they do have a check list how they compare to
>> the others and after a few calls only one other company can get 5
>> compared to their 17 checks. I never knew anyone can make garaged
>> without the brackets being strength tested,

>Steel Modular Systems at Ourimbah, 4362-3308

BTW: Insulation for a shed is a very, very good idea.

Bradmill's Anticon with even the thinnest blanket (55mm) is bloody
good insulation compared to just a thin sheet of steel and is easy
to install while screwing down the sheets. Do the roof; and the
walls if you can afford it. Roof insulation should pay for itself
within a year if the sides are mostly shut when it's too hot/cold
outside; unless you get "free" heating from elsewhere.

Return on investment for the walls depends on "exposure".

It saves on heating in winter and cooling in summer, making the shed
a more workable place.

Oh... it also make the place far more quiet, not just with rain but
also with passing traffic. Neighbours won't be able to hear most of
your tools or your muffled cries for help from underneath the
transmission on your chest.
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Ext User(Scoobity Doobity Dooo)
03-07-2006, 12:33 AM
David (one of the many) wrote:
> "Scoobity Doobity Doo" <barryr@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:93wpg.19530$ap3.14931@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>>I have just relocated to a larger block and will be erecting a shed down
>>the back.
>>
>>I am on the central coast NSW and am wondering which company is best?
>>
>>Peter Brock shed, I think it is fair dinkum are the cheapest but
>>cheapest isn't normally the best.
>>
>>Ranbuils is offering a free heater, which I am not getting too excited
>>about but they do have a check list how they compare to the others and
>>after a few calls only one other company can get 5 compared to their 17
>>checks. I never knew anyone can make garaged without the brackets being
>>strength tested,
>
>
> Steel Modular Systems at Ourimbah, 4362-3308

I have contacted them 3 times for a quote and they keep saying they will
post it but I haven't seen anything

>
> We have bought a double garage (2001) and a three bay barn style shed (2004)
> from them and we are very happy with the sheds. We assembled the barn
> ourselves and had them install the garage (though its used as a shed)
>
> Ranbuild were more expensive for both projects and although they knew what
> they were talking about the SMS guys seemed to know the products better.
> They also use their own construction people instead of contractors and were
> all round more professional. The Tri-Steel franchise guy was OK but the
> product was more difficult to customise.

Ranbuild at Gosford was very quick getting a quote to me, I called down
there and was very impressed with their software, he could tell me what
went into my building including the number of tek screws. I did like the
fact they are owned by BHP

Tri Steel didn't impress me at all, in this day and age any company that
does hand written quotes doesn't want work. All Gal have the strongers
sheds but out of my budget

>
> I also looked at disassmebling and rebuilding a few second hand sheds... far
> too much drama for me.... easier to have a new one delivered than to
> disassemble, transport and re-erect.
>
>
>

I looked into this option at the start of the year when a newcastle
garage display closed. It was only going to work out $1200 cheaper to
buy the erected building and I had to remove it myself and it was pink.

I didn't bother
>
>

I have decided to go with Widespansheds a lot cheaper then all the local
guys


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- Scoobity Doobity Doo

Ext User(Scoobity Doobity Dooo)
03-07-2006, 12:33 AM
Bernd Felsche wrote:
> "David \(one of the many\)" <none@none.none> writes:
>
>>"Scoobity Doobity Doo" <barryr@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message
>
>
>>>I have just relocated to a larger block and will be erecting a
>>>shed down the back.
>
>
>>>I am on the central coast NSW and am wondering which company is
>>>best?
>
>
>>>Peter Brock shed, I think it is fair dinkum are the cheapest but
>>>cheapest isn't normally the best.
>
>
>>>Ranbuils is offering a free heater, which I am not getting too
>>>excited about but they do have a check list how they compare to
>>>the others and after a few calls only one other company can get 5
>>>compared to their 17 checks. I never knew anyone can make garaged
>>>without the brackets being strength tested,
>
>
>>Steel Modular Systems at Ourimbah, 4362-3308
>
>
> BTW: Insulation for a shed is a very, very good idea.
>
> Bradmill's Anticon with even the thinnest blanket (55mm) is bloody
> good insulation compared to just a thin sheet of steel and is easy
> to install while screwing down the sheets. Do the roof; and the
> walls if you can afford it. Roof insulation should pay for itself
> within a year if the sides are mostly shut when it's too hot/cold
> outside; unless you get "free" heating from elsewhere.
>
> Return on investment for the walls depends on "exposure".
>
> It saves on heating in winter and cooling in summer, making the shed
> a more workable place.
>
> Oh... it also make the place far more quiet, not just with rain but
> also with passing traffic. Neighbours won't be able to hear most of
> your tools or your muffled cries for help from underneath the
> transmission on your chest.


Ranbuild offered me an insulation that is like a bubble wrap, they
reckon it has the same insulation quality of anticon but works out the
same price cause you don't need wire.

Would make it easier to hose the shed out once in a while

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- Scoobity Doobity Doo

Ext User(Bernd Felsche)
03-07-2006, 02:03 AM
Scoobity Doobity Dooo <barryrw@hotmail.com.au> writes:
>Bernd Felsche wrote:
>> "David \(one of the many\)" <none@none.none> writes:
>>>"Scoobity Doobity Doo" <barryr@hotmail.com.au> wrote in message

>>>>I have just relocated to a larger block and will be erecting a
>>>>shed down the back.

>> BTW: Insulation for a shed is a very, very good idea.

>> Bradmill's Anticon with even the thinnest blanket (55mm) is bloody

Sorry... that should've been BradFORD

>> good insulation compared to just a thin sheet of steel and is easy
>> to install while screwing down the sheets. Do the roof; and the
>> walls if you can afford it. Roof insulation should pay for itself
>> within a year if the sides are mostly shut when it's too hot/cold
>> outside; unless you get "free" heating from elsewhere.

>> Return on investment for the walls depends on "exposure".

>> It saves on heating in winter and cooling in summer, making the shed
>> a more workable place.

>> Oh... it also make the place far more quiet, not just with rain but
>> also with passing traffic. Neighbours won't be able to hear most of
>> your tools or your muffled cries for help from underneath the
>> transmission on your chest.

>Ranbuild offered me an insulation that is like a bubble wrap, they
>reckon it has the same insulation quality of anticon but works out the
>same price cause you don't need wire.

First; get the specifications. Be sceptical.
Look for the R-value for comparing insulation value.

Anticon 55 has a commercial R2.0 in the down direction and 1.5 up.
That's the thinnest (55mm blanket) available.
http://www.bradfordinsulation.com.au/

>Would make it easier to hose the shed out once in a while

Anticon is primarily an anti-condensation layer between the
interior of the building and the outside sheets. There's an
aluminium backing foil that faces the inside of the building.
i.e. It also serves the purpose of traditional sarking.
Plain foil has long been used sarking; and builders are in the
habit of continuing to do so; despite escalating energy costs.

Next look at resistance to fire and temperature.

I have no idea how they'd prevent sag between purlins if there's no
further support. Spans can be well over a metre. If they stretch a
bubble-wrap-like material, then that will deform (plastics tend to
creep under continuous stress) with time and sag.

Anticon recommends open-mesh support with 50mm openings (IIRC).
That's if the spacing between purlins is greater than 0.9m.
One can probably get away with using a more open mesh; given the
allowable spacing for the no-mesh requirement.

http://www.bradfordinsulation.com.au/technical/specifications/bradford/Metal_Roof_Deck.pdf
http://www.bradfordinsulation.com.au/technical/designguide/bradford/Design%20Guide%20-%20Building%20P27.pdf

Finally; the sound-absorbing qualities need to be compared.
You need to work out how important that is in your location and the
use to which you're putting the shed.
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