All Wheel Drive Cars

[Ext User(Graeme Willox)]

I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
other brands offer it in Australia.

[Ext User(Serialpest)]

Graeme Willox wrote:
> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
> other brands offer it in Australia.

4 door sedans? Mitsubishi Lancer EVO. I drive a Verada AWD which is superb.

[Ext User(David Z)]

Cars I know of that have AWD:

BMW - 3-Series (325xi, 330xi), 5-Series (525xi, 530xi)
Jaguar - X-Type
Honda - Legend
Mazda - Mazda6 MPS
Mercedes - E-Class (4Matic)
Volkswagen - Golf, Jetta, Passatt (4Motion)

"Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
> other brands offer it in Australia.

[Ext User(The Interceptor)]

To say that the Mazda is AWD is a little bit of a stretch in my opinion. It
sends drive to the rear when the front starts to slip - a bit like the
shonky CRV actually.

Genuine AWD should have 3 diffs.

Brett

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Cars I know of that have AWD:
>
> BMW - 3-Series (325xi, 330xi), 5-Series (525xi, 530xi)
> Jaguar - X-Type
> Honda - Legend
> Mazda - Mazda6 MPS
> Mercedes - E-Class (4Matic)
> Volkswagen - Golf, Jetta, Passatt (4Motion)
>
> "Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
>> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
>> other brands offer it in Australia.
>
>

[Ext User(Graeme Willox)]

Serialpest wrote:
> Graeme Willox wrote:
>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I
>> know that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was
>> wondering which other brands offer it in Australia.
>
> 4 door sedans? Mitsubishi Lancer EVO. I drive a Verada AWD which is superb.

Thanks. Sorry, that's what I meant. Your psychic powers must be
working ok today.

Thanks to each of you who replied as well.

[Ext User(Knobdoodle)]

"Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
> other brands offer it in Australia.
>
Subaru Sherpa wasn't AWD.
--
Knob

[Ext User(David Z)]

"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
>> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
>> other brands offer it in Australia.
>>
> Subaru Sherpa wasn't AWD.

All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though - many
older models are not.

[Ext User(Graeme Willox)]

David Z wrote:
> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:lOMsg.3030$tE5.2395@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> "Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
>>> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
>>> other brands offer it in Australia.
>>>
>> Subaru Sherpa wasn't AWD.
>
> All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though - many
> older models are not.
>
>

I guess I didn't clarify that either. I'm really talking about current
models.

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:45:48 +1000, Graeme Willox wrote:

> David Z wrote:
>> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:lOMsg.3030$tE5.2395@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> "Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>>> news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
>>>> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
>>>> other brands offer it in Australia.
>>>>
>>> Subaru Sherpa wasn't AWD.
>>
>> All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though - many
>> older models are not.
>>
>>
>
> I guess I didn't clarify that either. I'm really talking about current
> models.

Brands?
GM Holden, and Isuzu
Ford Territory and possibly Focarse models soon.
Nissan Murano+real trucks and Plenty of good AWD Skylines out there
slightly mis-used
Toyota Kludge+real trucks
Jaguar X type (I think it's called)
Volvo about three model ranges, including a 'road car' or two.
Subaru - natch
Mazda now has an AWD machine on aus.market - good on 'em.
Kia
Hyundai
Ssanyong.
Mercedes - maybe some road-car models - haven't checked lately.
BMW
Land-bloody-Rover
VAG - Audi and VW models including a van which is sorta AWD.
Chrysler Jeep - shitloads of stuff - including 300C just for a lark.
Honda. Well, sort of:-)
Some Indian company - Tata with a Ute?

I guess you should be asking which brands don't offer AWD stuff.

Of all of them, though, Volvo, Jaguar, Mazda, Chrysler-Jeep and VW are
the ones that offer variants of cars that are normally 2WD. Neither
Nissan nor Toyota do this here, though their home market is big time
into AWD variants.
Some have variants of their AWD chassis in 2WD - GM and Ford to name a
few. These are joke cars for 'keeping up appearances'

The AWD variants actually cost the same to register as their 2WD
brothers. This is good - because you can tear up twice as much road in
the AWD for the same GovCo user-pays penalty.


--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

[Ext User(atec77)]

Graeme Willox wrote:
> David Z wrote:
>> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:lOMsg.3030$tE5.2395@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> "Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>>> news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I
>>>> know that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was
>>>> wondering which other brands offer it in Australia.
>>>>
>>> Subaru Sherpa wasn't AWD.
>>
>> All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though -
>> many older models are not.
>>
>
> I guess I didn't clarify that either. I'm really talking about current
> models.
I would think a comment about use might be helpful.

[Ext User(David Z)]

"Toby Ponsenby" <toby@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:45:48 +1000, Graeme Willox wrote:
>
>> David Z wrote:
>>> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:lOMsg.3030$tE5.2395@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> "Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>>>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I
>>>>> know
>>>>> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering
>>>>> which
>>>>> other brands offer it in Australia.
>>>>>
>>>> Subaru Sherpa wasn't AWD.
>>>
>>> All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though -
>>> many
>>> older models are not.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I guess I didn't clarify that either. I'm really talking about current
>> models.
>
> Brands?
> GM Holden, and Isuzu
> Ford Territory and possibly Focarse models soon.
> Nissan Murano+real trucks and Plenty of good AWD Skylines out there
> slightly mis-used
> Toyota Kludge+real trucks
> Jaguar X type (I think it's called)
> Volvo about three model ranges, including a 'road car' or two.
> Subaru - natch
> Mazda now has an AWD machine on aus.market - good on 'em.
> Kia
> Hyundai
> Ssanyong.
> Mercedes - maybe some road-car models - haven't checked lately.
> BMW
> Land-bloody-Rover
> VAG - Audi and VW models including a van which is sorta AWD.
> Chrysler Jeep - shitloads of stuff - including 300C just for a lark.
> Honda. Well, sort of:-)
> Some Indian company - Tata with a Ute?
>
> I guess you should be asking which brands don't offer AWD stuff.
>
> Of all of them, though, Volvo, Jaguar, Mazda, Chrysler-Jeep and VW are
> the ones that offer variants of cars that are normally 2WD. Neither

I already made the list in my above post. BMW, Honda, and Mercedes all make
4WD sedans/station wagons too.

[Ext User(David Z)]

Ok, fair enough. I also forgot:

Volvo - entire range (S40/S60/S80/V70, etc)

"The Interceptor" <thisemail@willnotwork.com> wrote in message
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> To say that the Mazda is AWD is a little bit of a stretch in my opinion.
> It sends drive to the rear when the front starts to slip - a bit like the
> shonky CRV actually.
>
> Genuine AWD should have 3 diffs.
>
> Brett
>
> "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jMLsg.2983$tE5.2475@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Cars I know of that have AWD:
>>
>> BMW - 3-Series (325xi, 330xi), 5-Series (525xi, 530xi)
>> Jaguar - X-Type
>> Honda - Legend
>> Mazda - Mazda6 MPS
>> Mercedes - E-Class (4Matic)
>> Volkswagen - Golf, Jetta, Passatt (4Motion)
>>
>> "Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
>>> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
>>> other brands offer it in Australia.
>>
>>
>
>

[Ext User(Ben Thomas)]

Graeme Willox wrote:
> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
> that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
> other brands offer it in Australia.

By "cars", do you mean sedans, hatchbacks, and wagons only, or also
things like soft-roaders such as the Honda CRV and Toyota Rav4?


I assume you mean sedans so the ones I can think of are:
Subarus, as you mentioned;
Mazda 6 MPS;
Audis (with quattro AWD system)
Volkswagen Golf R32 and Passat (both with 4motion AWD system)

Most of them are higher performance cars and cost $50k or more.

Ben.

[Ext User(Ron)]

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:lOMsg.3030$tE5.2395@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> "Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I
>>> know that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was
>>> wondering which other brands offer it in Australia.
>>>
>> Subaru Sherpa wasn't AWD.
>
> All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though -
> many older models are not.
>
>

Most older Subarus were FWD only.

The "Knob" has correctly identified one (mainly) Australian Model :-)
However there was a AWD "Sherpa", it was called "Justy".

Ron

[Ext User(Ron)]

Graeme Willox <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in
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> Serialpest wrote:
>> Graeme Willox wrote:
>>> I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I
>>> know that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was
>>> wondering which other brands offer it in Australia.
>>
>> 4 door sedans? Mitsubishi Lancer EVO. I drive a Verada AWD which is
>> superb.
>
> Thanks. Sorry, that's what I meant. Your psychic powers must be
> working ok today.
>
> Thanks to each of you who replied as well.

Steer well clear of mitsubishi, unless you want to through good money away!
Resale value is abysmal, and the current vehicles are anything like the
earlier one, they wear out twice as fast as any other brand.

Subaru's are tough :-)

Ron

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though - many
> older models are not.

"Recent" as in more than a decade :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Ron)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in
news:44b42737$1@news.comindico.com.au:

>
> "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:jYMsg.3043$tE5.685@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though -
>> many older models are not.
>
> "Recent" as in more than a decade :)

He has only been around for two, the first one was shitting his pants and
looking dumb, the second...er..yeah :-)

Ron

[Ext User(Kev)]

Toby Ponsenby wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:45:48 +1000, Graeme Willox wrote:
>
>
>>David Z wrote:
>>
>>>"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:lOMsg.3030$tE5.2395@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>>>"Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>>I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
>>>>>that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
>>>>>other brands offer it in Australia.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Subaru Sherpa wasn't AWD.
>>>
>>>All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though - many
>>>older models are not.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I guess I didn't clarify that either. I'm really talking about current
>>models.
>
>
> Brands?
> GM Holden, and Isuzu
> Ford Territory and possibly Focarse models soon.
> Nissan Murano+real trucks and Plenty of good AWD Skylines out there
> slightly mis-used
> Toyota Kludge+real trucks
> Jaguar X type (I think it's called)
> Volvo about three model ranges, including a 'road car' or two.
> Subaru - natch
> Mazda now has an AWD machine on aus.market - good on 'em.
> Kia
> Hyundai
> Ssanyong.
> Mercedes - maybe some road-car models - haven't checked lately.
> BMW
> Land-bloody-Rover
> VAG - Audi and VW models including a van which is sorta AWD.
> Chrysler Jeep - shitloads of stuff - including 300C just for a lark.
> Honda. Well, sort of:-)
> Some Indian company - Tata with a Ute?
>
Lamborghini
Porsche

My BIL had a SAMÉ Tractor powered by a Lamborghini turbo diesel engine
it was also AWD


Kev

Kev

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

"Kev" <kevcat@optunet.com.au> wrote in message
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Toby Ponsenby wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:45:48 +1000, Graeme Willox wrote:
>
>
>>David Z wrote:
>>
>>>"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:lOMsg.3030$tE5.2395@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>>>"Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>news:e8vu1a$686$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
>>>>
>>>>>I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I know
>>>>>that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was wondering which
>>>>>other brands offer it in Australia.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Subaru Sherpa wasn't AWD.
>>>
>>>All *current* Subarus are AWD. This is only a recent thing though - many
>>>older models are not.
>>>
>>
>>I guess I didn't clarify that either. I'm really talking about current
>>models.
>
>
> Brands?
> GM Holden, and Isuzu
> Ford Territory and possibly Focarse models soon.
> Nissan Murano+real trucks and Plenty of good AWD Skylines out there
> slightly mis-used Toyota Kludge+real trucks
> Jaguar X type (I think it's called)
> Volvo about three model ranges, including a 'road car' or two.
> Subaru - natch
> Mazda now has an AWD machine on aus.market - good on 'em.
> Kia
> Hyundai
> Ssanyong.
> Mercedes - maybe some road-car models - haven't checked lately. BMW
> Land-bloody-Rover
> VAG - Audi and VW models including a van which is sorta AWD.
> Chrysler Jeep - shitloads of stuff - including 300C just for a lark.
> Honda. Well, sort of:-)
> Some Indian company - Tata with a Ute?
>
Lamborghini
Porsche

Bentley as well.

Fraser

[Ext User(Serialpest)]

Ron wrote:
> Graeme Willox <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in
> news:e904v4$f6g$1@news-02.connect.com.au:
>
>
>>Serialpest wrote:
>>
>>>Graeme Willox wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm trying to find cars which are available in all wheel drive. I
>>>>know that this is a feature of all Subaru vehicles, but I was
>>>>wondering which other brands offer it in Australia.
>>>
>>>4 door sedans? Mitsubishi Lancer EVO. I drive a Verada AWD which is
>>>superb.
>>
>>Thanks. Sorry, that's what I meant. Your psychic powers must be
>>working ok toda
>>
>>Thanks to each of you who replied as well.
>
>
> Steer well clear of mitsubishi, unless you want to through good money away!
> Resale value is abysmal, and the current vehicles are anything like the
> earlier one, they wear out twice as fast as any other brand.
>
> Subaru's are tough :-)
>
> Ron

Bawahahahahaahah!!! Subaru Sherpa! How come it has terminal rust of it's
so tough?

Speaking of wasting good money, who would do a half-arse restoration of
a Jag then paint it with acrylic laquer in Mazda white! Gotta love the
orange peel effect there Ron. Looks just like a refrigerator. Even more
money wasted on the marine carpet on the floor and the dismal job on the
hood lining and wood. How much would it have costed to get someone to do
the hood lining properly? All of $200? you really are an idiot.