"Shame" after granny attack!

[Ext User(Ron)]

The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....

http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html

[Ext User(Graham Fountain)]

Ron wrote:
> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>
> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html
While I don't agree with what he has done, this article does tend to
lend a little weight to the comments made in the other thread that to
some extent it is a media beat up. There is nothing to justify shoving a
79yo, but the fact that she pushed past him does tend to indicate that
it definitely wasn't an unprovoked attack. Seems like for a moment he
forgot she was old, and simply reacted to him being pushed, just like
you would probably do if it was someone the same age that pushed you. He
didn't leave the scene and his wife comforted her, so obviously when
things went pear shaped he immediately had remorse.
He did the wrong thing, but unlike many he does appear to be prepared to
wear the consequences for what he did wrong.
Just out of curiosity, was it westfield at Indro where this happened?
Last time I was there, an ancient woman cut in front of me (actually she
overtook me as I started to turn in, and damn near hit her) for a park I
was waiting for, and flicked the bird as she went in. A little later
still doing laps looking for a park, I had to wait for her as she
crossed the road with her walker. She yelled out some abuse at me in
language that even a bullocky would cringe at, to the effect that the
elderly had the right to steal car parks from youngen's like me. Chances
of it being the same woman are pretty slim - but you never know.

[Ext User(AdvarP)]

'Don't believe anything you read and believe only half that you see'

Yes of crs he should not have pushed her.. but can you help reflexes ?
Anyway.


"Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>
> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html

[Ext User(Ron)]

Graham Fountain <ask@and.find.out> wrote in news:44b56bd2$0$21687
$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:

> Ron wrote:
>> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>>
>> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-
3102,00.html
> While I don't agree with what he has done, this article does tend to
> lend a little weight to the comments made in the other thread that to
> some extent it is a media beat up. There is nothing to justify shoving
a
> 79yo, but the fact that she pushed past him does tend to indicate that
> it definitely wasn't an unprovoked attack. Seems like for a moment he
> forgot she was old, and simply reacted to him being pushed, just like
> you would probably do if it was someone the same age that pushed you.
He
> didn't leave the scene and his wife comforted her, so obviously when
> things went pear shaped he immediately had remorse.
> He did the wrong thing, but unlike many he does appear to be prepared
to
> wear the consequences for what he did wrong.
> Just out of curiosity, was it westfield at Indro where this happened?
> Last time I was there, an ancient woman cut in front of me (actually
she
> overtook me as I started to turn in, and damn near hit her) for a park
I
> was waiting for, and flicked the bird as she went in. A little later
> still doing laps looking for a park, I had to wait for her as she
> crossed the road with her walker. She yelled out some abuse at me in
> language that even a bullocky would cringe at, to the effect that the
> elderly had the right to steal car parks from youngen's like me.
Chances
> of it being the same woman are pretty slim - but you never know.
>

Westfield, Chermside.
I go there quite a lot.
There are a lot of elderly that shop there and car parking can be
difficult. Westfield are expanding and currently building a multi story
carpark to ease the parking problems.

As the woman is 79, she may not have realised that she took a park he
was waiting for, most of them are a little "Dottie" at that age.
When ever we go there, we take the Sherpa as it will fit in a few
"Creative" parking areas where nothing bigger would fit :-)

I've even had a woman ask if she could buy the car so she could do the
same thing :-)

Ron

[Ext User(Ron)]

"AdvarP" <advarp@hotmail.com> wrote in news:44b57ab5$0$25276$afc38c87
@news.optusnet.com.au:

> 'Don't believe anything you read and believe only half that you see'
>
> Yes of crs he should not have pushed her.. but can you help reflexes ?
> Anyway.
>

Oh really?

Are you in a habit of shoving women?

>
> "Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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>> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>>
>> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html
>
>
>

[Ext User(the_dawg)]

Ron wrote:
> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>
> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html

Bwhahahaha - good grief that thing looks like a mouse, or
a mild mannered accountant at best. Guess looks can be decieving.

[Ext User(Ron)]

"the_dawg" <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU> wrote in
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>
> Ron wrote:
>> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>>
>> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html
>
> Bwhahahaha - good grief that thing looks like a mouse, or
> a mild mannered accountant at best. Guess looks can be decieving.
>

A woman basher!

[Ext User(atec77)]

the_dawg wrote:
> Ron wrote:
>> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>>
>> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html
>
> Bwhahahaha - good grief that thing looks like a mouse, or
> a mild mannered accountant at best. Guess looks can be decieving.
>
Funny you say that , one of the brother in laws could be this blokes
taller brother , he is an accountant and a total prick ...

[Ext User(reg-john)]

why are you going so hard after this guy? few too many problems close to
home you dont want to deal with?

i mean we get it, the guy is an arsehole, but jesus get over it.


"Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>
> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html

[Ext User(Ron)]

"reg-john" <al@fddfd.com> wrote in news:yJvtg.4434$tE5.2568@news-
server.bigpond.net.au:

I hate women bashers!

> why are you going so hard after this guy? few too many problems close to
> home you dont want to deal with?
>
> i mean we get it, the guy is an arsehole, but jesus get over it.
>
>
> "Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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>> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
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>> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html
>
>
>

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"reg-john" <al@fddfd.com> wrote in message
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> why are you going so hard after this guy? few too many problems close to
> home you dont want to deal with?
>
> i mean we get it, the guy is an arsehole, but jesus get over it.

Perhaps if it was your Mum, or if your Mum had been subjected to some form
of random street violence, your opinion might be very different.

I'm not criticising you per se', but I think it's attitudes like this that
make such behaviour all the more acceptable in our society these days.

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(reg-john)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "reg-john" <al@fddfd.com> wrote in message
> news:yJvtg.4434$tE5.2568@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> why are you going so hard after this guy? few too many problems close to
>> home you dont want to deal with?
>>
>> i mean we get it, the guy is an arsehole, but jesus get over it.
>
> Perhaps if it was your Mum, or if your Mum had been subjected to some form
> of random street violence, your opinion might be very different.
>
> I'm not criticising you per se', but I think it's attitudes like this that
> make such behaviour all the more acceptable in our society these days.

if it was my mum id be pissed off. but i wouldnt make constant, repetitive
posts on usenet aobut it.

what exactly is my attitude? that im totally against this sort of behaviour,
but also curious at why one man is pushing it so hard?

i didnt think pushing old women over in car parks was ever considered
acceptable, and frankly i think 99.9% of people would hold the same view.
life produces fruitloops like this, you punish them appropriately and move
on, dont decry them as a paradigm of current society and pine for the good
old days.


>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
>

[Ext User(Ron)]

"reg-john" <al@fddfd.com> wrote in
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>
> "Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:44b6d8a7$1@news.comindico.com.au...
>>
>> "reg-john" <al@fddfd.com> wrote in message
>> news:yJvtg.4434$tE5.2568@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>> why are you going so hard after this guy? few too many problems
>>> close to home you dont want to deal with?
>>>
>>> i mean we get it, the guy is an arsehole, but jesus get over it.
>>
>> Perhaps if it was your Mum, or if your Mum had been subjected to some
>> form of random street violence, your opinion might be very different.
>>
>> I'm not criticising you per se', but I think it's attitudes like this
>> that make such behaviour all the more acceptable in our society these
>> days.
>
> if it was my mum id be pissed off. but i wouldnt make constant,
> repetitive posts on usenet aobut it.

TWO POSTS!!

The rest are replies.................

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"reg-john" <al@fddfd.com> wrote in message
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> if it was my mum id be pissed off. but i wouldnt make constant, repetitive
> posts on usenet aobut it.

That's your call.

> what exactly is my attitude? that im totally against this sort of
> behaviour, but also curious at why one man is pushing it so hard?

Why's that?

> i didnt think pushing old women over in car parks was ever considered
> acceptable, and frankly i think 99.9% of people would hold the same view.

Agreed.

> life produces fruitloops like this, you punish them appropriately and move
> on, dont decry them as a paradigm of current society and pine for the good
> old days.

If you say so, but I'll have the good old days any day thanks.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(ant)]

reg-john wrote:
> why are you going so hard after this guy? few too many problems close
> to home you dont want to deal with?
>
> i mean we get it, the guy is an arsehole, but jesus get over it.

a bit of self-righteous rage, I suspect, of the sort that tabloid media like
ACA and TT exploit daily.
She pushed past him? I'd like to know a bit more about that. too much of it
these days, people taking liberties; if women and children do it, why should
they expect a different reaction than if they were men?

People who get all enraged in car parks are idiots though.

ant



> "Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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>> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>>
>> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"ant" <dmjfisher@terrapins.com> wrote in message
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> a bit of self-righteous rage, I suspect, of the sort that tabloid media
> like ACA and TT exploit daily.

No, not really.

I wasn't having a go at Reg-John, but I thought his comments along the lines
of "it happened - get over it" were pretty symbolic of the reasons *why*
this type of shit happens, and why it's becoming more prevalent.

Moral standards seem to be slipping faster than ever, and I think that if
more people reacted over such events rather than simply accepted it as part
of modern society, we'd all be better off.

> She pushed past him? I'd like to know a bit more about that. too much of
> it these days, people taking liberties; if women and children do it, why
> should they expect a different reaction than if they were men?

It shouldn't be.

> People who get all enraged in car parks are idiots though.

Agreed.

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:43:13 +1000, ant wrote:

> reg-john wrote:
>> why are you going so hard after this guy? few too many problems close
>> to home you dont want to deal with?
>>
>> i mean we get it, the guy is an arsehole, but jesus get over it.
>
> a bit of self-righteous rage, I suspect, of the sort that tabloid media like
> ACA and TT exploit daily.
> She pushed past him? I'd like to know a bit more about that. too much of it
> these days, people taking liberties; if women and children do it, why should
> they expect a different reaction than if they were men?
>
> People who get all enraged in car parks are idiots though.
>
> ant
>
>
>
>> "Ron" <X101@newsguy.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns97FF4736F3058mcgricenewsguycom@129.250.170 .92...
>>> The face of an idiot with an explosive temper....
>>>
>>> http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19769529-3102,00.html

Interesting take on the matter.
Don't know much about the situation and unlikely to ever find out
either - the press reporting of the matter has been as usual
terminally hopeless. There was 'one' radio report I heard that said
the bearded imbecile simply pushed Grannie in the back. She then
toppled and fell flat on her beak.
Probably close to the truth.
Doesn't excuse the imbecile, though. Have to wonder why no criminal
record though. Perhaps a check of the people he went to school with
would prove interesting.

But I observe and reflect on the ageism thing.
And I come up with the result that most old fart bad behaviour is most
certainly NOT related to their age.
It's more that they've been arseholes all their damm lives and
eventually, it seems some get their come-uppance far too late in life
for the behaviour correction to be socially acceptable, or of any use
to anyone at all:-)
--
Toby.
quidquid latine dictum
sit, altum viditur

[Ext User(reg-john)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> "ant" <dmjfisher@terrapins.com> wrote in message
> news:4hr31mFt7mpU1@individual.net...
>
>> a bit of self-righteous rage, I suspect, of the sort that tabloid media
>> like ACA and TT exploit daily.
>
> No, not really.
>
> I wasn't having a go at Reg-John, but I thought his comments along the
> lines of "it happened - get over it" were pretty symbolic of the reasons
> *why* this type of shit happens, and why it's becoming more prevalent.

i didnt say that and you know it.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"reg-john" <al@fddfd.com> wrote in message
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> i didnt say that and you know it.

Not directly, and I wasn't implying that you were.

Sure, it's an off topic subject, but this group is anything *but* topical.

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Ron)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@dodo.com.au> wrote in
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>
> "reg-john" <al@fddfd.com> wrote in message
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>
>> i didnt say that and you know it.
>
> Not directly, and I wasn't implying that you were.
>
> Sure, it's an off topic subject, but this group is anything *but*
> topical.

Happened in a "Car Park" :-)