Old Guys + Road Rage

[Ext User(Casper)]

What is it with old guys that they fire up so quickly and want to go 5
rounds at the drop of a hat ?

I've had my share of name calling finger flipping incidents on the road -
one or two were even my fault - but today was the first time I've actually
got out of the car - against my better judgement, but anyway - find myself
facing up to a guy, gotta by 60yo maybe 5'10", though pretty solid, still a
little unevenly matched (I'm half his age 6'6" and 115kg) - surprisingly he
was the one itching to go old school.

Anyways, the funny part was, his car started to roll down the hill - but it
was behind him and he couldn't see it. I said to him - mate, your car is
rolling down the hill. His reply, "yeh sure, right". I said "seriously,
your car is rolling down the hill" he said "do I look stupid?" I said "you
will look pretty stupid chasing your car down the hill" I took a step back
so he'd look around, and I can tell you - he DID look pretty stupid chasing
his car down the hill !!

I took the opportunity to get in my car and leave.

This guy reversed out of his driveway across 2 lanes of traffic and was then
slow to take off - after failing to give way to me causing me to need to
dramatically slow down. I made no gestures or toot toot sounds (both would
have been justified) he got the shits with me (I think he felt I was
tailgating?) and jabbed on his brakes. I still didn't react (other than
slowing further) , at this point he stopped his car and started waving his
hands at me. I went to go around him, with the intention of leaving but he
opened his car door - blocking my passage. At this poimt a car turned the
corner and was coming towards me - I pulled across to the shoulder on the
rhs and got out the car - "what's your problem ?" - at which point he made
it clear he wanted to fight.

Reinforces my resolve to get an onboard cam with 30min loop to hard drive
recording.

btw - he caught the car ;-)

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

"Casper" <casper@home.capalaba.qld.au> wrote in message
news:44e56bca$0$22361$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> What is it with old guys that they fire up so quickly and want to go 5 rounds
> at the drop of a hat ?
>
> I've had my share of name calling finger flipping incidents on the road - one
> or two were even my fault - but today was the first time I've actually got out
> of the car - against my better judgement, but anyway - find myself facing up
> to a guy, gotta by 60yo maybe 5'10", though pretty solid, still a little
> unevenly matched (I'm half his age 6'6" and 115kg) - surprisingly he was the
> one itching to go old school.
>
> Anyways, the funny part was, his car started to roll down the hill - but it
> was behind him and he couldn't see it. I said to him - mate, your car is
> rolling down the hill. His reply, "yeh sure, right". I said "seriously, your
> car is rolling down the hill" he said "do I look stupid?" I said "you will
> look pretty stupid chasing your car down the hill" I took a step back so he'd
> look around, and I can tell you - he DID look pretty stupid chasing his car
> down the hill !!
>
> I took the opportunity to get in my car and leave.
>
> This guy reversed out of his driveway across 2 lanes of traffic and was then
> slow to take off - after failing to give way to me causing me to need to
> dramatically slow down. I made no gestures or toot toot sounds (both would
> have been justified) he got the shits with me (I think he felt I was
> tailgating?) and jabbed on his brakes. I still didn't react (other than
> slowing further) , at this point he stopped his car and started waving his
> hands at me. I went to go around him, with the intention of leaving but he
> opened his car door - blocking my passage. At this poimt a car turned the
> corner and was coming towards me - I pulled across to the shoulder on the rhs
> and got out the car - "what's your problem ?" - at which point he made it
> clear he wanted to fight.
>
> Reinforces my resolve to get an onboard cam with 30min loop to hard drive
> recording.
>
> btw - he caught the car ;-)

One of the guys I do Jiu Jitsu with has choked out 2 people and left them
sleeping next to the car by the side of the road. One of them he pulled their
keys out of the ignition and threw them into the bushes next to the road. It
was also raining.

Fraser

[Ext User(the_dawg)]

feral wrote:
> Rainbow Warrior wrote:
>
> > Hmm......... Karma, it doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen :)
>
> We all know you meant "heppen". ;-)
>
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> (\-- Ü--/)
> ((.>______<.))
> ^^^ ^^^

It's "huppen", and I know that as correct :-)

[Ext User(Ron)]

"Casper" <casper@home.capalaba.qld.au> wrote in
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> What is it with old guys that they fire up so quickly and want to go 5
> rounds at the drop of a hat ?
>
Sorry mate, I had no idea you were the guy :-)

[Ext User(feral)]

Casper wrote:

> What is it with old guys that they fire up so quickly and want to go 5
> rounds at the drop of a hat ?
>
> I've had my share of name calling finger flipping incidents on the road -
> one or two were even my fault - but today was the first time I've actually
> got out of the car - against my better judgement, but anyway - find myself
> facing up to a guy, gotta by 60yo maybe 5'10", though pretty solid, still a
> little unevenly matched (I'm half his age 6'6" and 115kg) - surprisingly he
> was the one itching to go old school.
>
> Anyways, the funny part was, his car started to roll down the hill - but it
> was behind him and he couldn't see it. I said to him - mate, your car is
> rolling down the hill. His reply, "yeh sure, right". I said "seriously,
> your car is rolling down the hill" he said "do I look stupid?" I said "you
> will look pretty stupid chasing your car down the hill" I took a step back
> so he'd look around, and I can tell you - he DID look pretty stupid chasing
> his car down the hill !!
>
> I took the opportunity to get in my car and leave.
>
> This guy reversed out of his driveway across 2 lanes of traffic and was then
> slow to take off - after failing to give way to me causing me to need to
> dramatically slow down. I made no gestures or toot toot sounds (both would
> have been justified) he got the shits with me (I think he felt I was
> tailgating?) and jabbed on his brakes. I still didn't react (other than
> slowing further) , at this point he stopped his car and started waving his
> hands at me. I went to go around him, with the intention of leaving but he
> opened his car door - blocking my passage. At this poimt a car turned the
> corner and was coming towards me - I pulled across to the shoulder on the
> rhs and got out the car - "what's your problem ?" - at which point he made
> it clear he wanted to fight.
>
> Reinforces my resolve to get an onboard cam with 30min loop to hard drive
> recording.
>
> btw - he caught the car ;-)
>
>
It's gunna be a bitch growing old, eh Casper.

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[Ext User(feral)]

Fraser Johnston wrote:

> One of the guys I do Jiu Jitsu with has choked out 2 people and left them
> sleeping next to the car by the side of the road. One of them he pulled their
> keys out of the ignition and threw them into the bushes next to the road. It
> was also raining.

Yep, that shows respect for "oldies".
And the remark from a martial art expert, who is surpose to be
taught respect. Shame, shame, shame.

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[Ext User(Rainbow Warrior)]

"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> One of the guys I do Jiu Jitsu with has choked out 2 people and left them
> sleeping next to the car by the side of the road. One of them he pulled
> their keys out of the ignition and threw them into the bushes next to the
> road. It was also raining.
>
> Fraser

LOL, I prefer using the Vulcan sleep pinch myself :)

Years ago, I was walking through Wollongong shopping centre car park and
some 20yo clown came roaring up the lot, as he came closer, I faced his car
on the drivers side, I yelled out, "it's not a friggin racetrack you know!"
There were mums & kids everywhere at the time too. His response was "I gunna
kill you, you're dead meat, blah, blah, SCREECH!" nearly ran into a car that
seemed to stupidly reverse out in front of him. "WHAT THE FUCK!", he was out
of the car, we looked at me then the other car, at this point I was
regreting my intervention, thinking "this guys an full aggro fruit cake, is
my martial arts training good enough, should I lead with the CC's & 2 litre
coke bottle in my shopping bag?". The 2 front doors on the car opened
together he turned and stormed towards it as the 2 large serious looking
guys got out dressed like realestate agents. His natrual instincts were now
hitting the parachute brake with both hands, something wasn't right. Taking
advantage of the pause with TV like timing, the guy on this side just said
"Hello Sunshine!" and flipped open his badge.

He went all meek, placid & apologetic, the second cop grabbed my name &
address as a possible witness, then they pullted out the ticket book &
started inspecting his XA Falcon, I watched for another 5 minutes before
leaving, they had found things worth writing about in the engine bay, tyres,
bodywork, lights.

Hmm......... Karma, it doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen :)

[Ext User(feral)]

Rainbow Warrior wrote:

> Hmm......... Karma, it doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen :)

We all know you meant "heppen". ;-)

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[Ext User(feral)]

the_dawg wrote:

> feral wrote:
>
>>Rainbow Warrior wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hmm......... Karma, it doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen :)
>>
>>We all know you meant "heppen". ;-)
>>
>>--
>>Take Care. ~~
>>Feral @..@
>> (\-- Ü--/)
>> ((.>______<.))
>> ^^^ ^^^
>
>
> It's "huppen", and I know that as correct :-)
>
Well, put "won't heppen overnight" into Google Patrick.
And I know that is correct.
:-P

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[Ext User(Rainbow Warrior)]

"feral" <plonked@home.ru> wrote in message
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> the_dawg wrote:
>
>> feral wrote:
>>
>>>Rainbow Warrior wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hmm......... Karma, it doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen :)
>>>
>>>We all know you meant "heppen". ;-)
>>>
>>>Take Care. ~~
>>>Feral @..@
>>> (\-- Ü--/)
>>> ((.>______<.))
>>> ^^^ ^^^
>>
>> It's "huppen", and I know that as correct :-)
>>
> Well, put "won't heppen overnight" into Google Patrick.
> And I know that is correct.
> :-P

It won't hoopen overnight?

[Ext User(feral)]

Rainbow Warrior wrote:

> It won't hoopen overnight?
>
>
No, sorry Pat. That doesn't even get *one* hit on Google. :-)
At least Patricks got *20*.
:-)

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[Ext User(D Walford)]

Rainbow Warrior wrote:
> "Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4kl9mtFcol6iU1@individual.net...
>> One of the guys I do Jiu Jitsu with has choked out 2 people and left them
>> sleeping next to the car by the side of the road. One of them he pulled
>> their keys out of the ignition and threw them into the bushes next to the
>> road. It was also raining.
>>
>> Fraser
>
> LOL, I prefer using the Vulcan sleep pinch myself :)
>
> Years ago, I was walking through Wollongong shopping centre car park and
> some 20yo clown came roaring up the lot, as he came closer, I faced his car
> on the drivers side, I yelled out, "it's not a friggin racetrack you know!"
> There were mums & kids everywhere at the time too. His response was "I gunna
> kill you, you're dead meat, blah, blah, SCREECH!" nearly ran into a car that
> seemed to stupidly reverse out in front of him. "WHAT THE FUCK!", he was out
> of the car, we looked at me then the other car, at this point I was
> regreting my intervention, thinking "this guys an full aggro fruit cake, is
> my martial arts training good enough, should I lead with the CC's & 2 litre
> coke bottle in my shopping bag?". The 2 front doors on the car opened
> together he turned and stormed towards it as the 2 large serious looking
> guys got out dressed like realestate agents. His natrual instincts were now
> hitting the parachute brake with both hands, something wasn't right. Taking
> advantage of the pause with TV like timing, the guy on this side just said
> "Hello Sunshine!" and flipped open his badge.
>
> He went all meek, placid & apologetic, the second cop grabbed my name &
> address as a possible witness, then they pullted out the ticket book &
> started inspecting his XA Falcon, I watched for another 5 minutes before
> leaving, they had found things worth writing about in the engine bay, tyres,
> bodywork, lights.
>
> Hmm......... Karma, it doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen :)
>
>
LOL, excellent story:-)



Daryl

[Ext User(Jason James)]

"Casper" <casper@home.capalaba.qld.au> wrote in message
news:44e56bca$0$22361$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> What is it with old guys that they fire up so quickly and want to go 5
> rounds at the drop of a hat ?
>
> I've had my share of name calling finger flipping incidents on the road -
> one or two were even my fault - but today was the first time I've actually
> got out of the car - against my better judgement, but anyway - find myself
> facing up to a guy, gotta by 60yo maybe 5'10", though pretty solid, still
a
> little unevenly matched (I'm half his age 6'6" and 115kg) - surprisingly
he
> was the one itching to go old school.
>
> Anyways, the funny part was, his car started to roll down the hill - but
it
> was behind him and he couldn't see it. I said to him - mate, your car is
> rolling down the hill. His reply, "yeh sure, right". I said "seriously,
> your car is rolling down the hill" he said "do I look stupid?" I said "you
> will look pretty stupid chasing your car down the hill" I took a step back
> so he'd look around, and I can tell you - he DID look pretty stupid
chasing
> his car down the hill !!
>
> I took the opportunity to get in my car and leave.
>
> This guy reversed out of his driveway across 2 lanes of traffic and was
then
> slow to take off - after failing to give way to me causing me to need to
> dramatically slow down. I made no gestures or toot toot sounds (both
would
> have been justified) he got the shits with me (I think he felt I was
> tailgating?) and jabbed on his brakes. I still didn't react (other than
> slowing further) , at this point he stopped his car and started waving his
> hands at me. I went to go around him, with the intention of leaving but
he
> opened his car door - blocking my passage. At this poimt a car turned the
> corner and was coming towards me - I pulled across to the shoulder on the
> rhs and got out the car - "what's your problem ?" - at which point he made
> it clear he wanted to fight.
>
> Reinforces my resolve to get an onboard cam with 30min loop to hard drive
> recording.
>
> btw - he caught the car ;-)

Its a strange thing that driver hostility. I used to get it when I had SOL
on some mornings (shit on liver), but now I find I'm slowing down a bit
around town, there's a role reversal going on....;-) A Landcruiser flashed
his headlights behind me becausae I was doing 50kph on the main bridge in
town,..I sped up with no feeling of animosity,...meelloooowing I guess.

Jason

[Ext User(veritas)]

Casper wrote:

>
> Reinforces my resolve to get an onboard cam with 30min loop to hard drive
> recording.
>
> btw - he caught the car ;-)


That has been a desire of mine for many years now - great idea.

I'm pleased that the cops in some states have them fitted - while it stops ANY argument from a
driver (or other) who has clearly broken the law (no complaints there from me at all) and has
been pulled over, it ALSO protects the ME from that odd unprofessional lying cowboy cop!

Good result for everyone all round! A privately operated cam would be even better for resolving
civil disputes.....
>
>

[Ext User(reg-john)]

"veritas" <veritas@coldmail.com> wrote in message
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> Casper wrote:
>
>>
>> Reinforces my resolve to get an onboard cam with 30min loop to hard drive
>> recording.
>>
>> btw - he caught the car ;-)
>
>
> That has been a desire of mine for many years now - great idea.
>
> I'm pleased that the cops in some states have them fitted - while it stops
> ANY argument from a driver (or other) who has clearly broken the law (no
> complaints there from me at all) and has been pulled over, it ALSO
> protects the ME from that odd unprofessional lying cowboy cop!
>
> Good result for everyone all round! A privately operated cam would be
> even better for resolving civil disputes.....
>>

it also means its a lot rarer for HWP cars to let you off for speeding.


>>

[Ext User(Albm&ctd)]

In article <44e676c7@news.comindico.com.au>, home@work.1.0 says...
>
> "Casper" <casper@home.capalaba.qld.au> wrote in message
> news:44e56bca$0$22361$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> > What is it with old guys that they fire up so quickly and want to go 5
> > rounds at the drop of a hat ?
> >
> > I've had my share of name calling finger flipping incidents on the road -
> > one or two were even my fault - but today was the first time I've actually
> > got out of the car - against my better judgement, but anyway - find myself
> > facing up to a guy, gotta by 60yo maybe 5'10", though pretty solid, still
> a
> > little unevenly matched (I'm half his age 6'6" and 115kg) - surprisingly
> he
> > was the one itching to go old school.
> >
> > Anyways, the funny part was, his car started to roll down the hill - but
> it
> > was behind him and he couldn't see it. I said to him - mate, your car is
> > rolling down the hill. His reply, "yeh sure, right". I said "seriously,
> > your car is rolling down the hill" he said "do I look stupid?" I said "you
> > will look pretty stupid chasing your car down the hill" I took a step back
> > so he'd look around, and I can tell you - he DID look pretty stupid
> chasing
> > his car down the hill !!
> >
> > I took the opportunity to get in my car and leave.
> >
> > This guy reversed out of his driveway across 2 lanes of traffic and was
> then
> > slow to take off - after failing to give way to me causing me to need to
> > dramatically slow down. I made no gestures or toot toot sounds (both
> would
> > have been justified) he got the shits with me (I think he felt I was
> > tailgating?) and jabbed on his brakes. I still didn't react (other than
> > slowing further) , at this point he stopped his car and started waving his
> > hands at me. I went to go around him, with the intention of leaving but
> he
> > opened his car door - blocking my passage. At this poimt a car turned the
> > corner and was coming towards me - I pulled across to the shoulder on the
> > rhs and got out the car - "what's your problem ?" - at which point he made
> > it clear he wanted to fight.
> >
> > Reinforces my resolve to get an onboard cam with 30min loop to hard drive
> > recording.
> >
> > btw - he caught the car ;-)
>
> Its a strange thing that driver hostility. I used to get it when I had SOL
> on some mornings (shit on liver), but now I find I'm slowing down a bit
> around town, there's a role reversal going on....;-) A Landcruiser flashed
> his headlights behind me becausae I was doing 50kph on the main bridge in
> town,..I sped up with no feeling of animosity,...meelloooowing I guess.
>
Must be road rage season. I'm getting along at 50 km/h in a 50 km/h zone
on the bike when I'm caught up by a Ford Falcon and he tailgates as we
approach a stop sign. I stop and he goes up the right of me with left
indicator on. I go left and he goes left, still 50 km/h in a stupid
fuck*ng 50 km/h zone and then 60 km/h when the limit increased to 60 km/h
so Falcon overtakes before the open road disclaimer sign. On reaching
disclaimer sign I passed him and he seemed to want to chase. OK it was
time to check if the bike was running well. It seemed to be well going by
the shrinking dot in the mirror. There you have clear proof that low
speed limits cause tailgating and road rage when adhered to after all
that's all I was doing and with great difficulty too as the bike gets
heavy at low speed agroing my neck problem with left arm pain.
I was not tailgated at unmentionable speeds proving high speed is good
for ones soul.
At 53 I might just get put in the old guy category... damn!! Guess I
should have followed the driver home and knuckled the fuck*r :-0

Al
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[Ext User(ant)]

Casper wrote:
> What is it with old guys that they fire up so quickly and want to go 5
> rounds at the drop of a hat ?

they remind me of raddled old goats, the way they carry on. Just droopy old
bags of skin.

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[Ext User(feral)]

ant wrote:

> they remind me of raddled old goats, the way they carry on. Just droopy old
> bags of skin.
>
Anybody else picturing saggy tits on wannabee lamb?

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[Ext User(Albm&ctd)]

In article <4koc95Fd4f2jU1@individual.net>, wayendavis1s@yahoo.ie says...
> Casper wrote:
> > What is it with old guys that they fire up so quickly and want to go 5
> > rounds at the drop of a hat ?
>
> they remind me of raddled old goats, the way they carry on. Just droopy old
> bags of skin.
>
Trust you to be looking at the scrotum.

Al
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It's more fun to insult everyone.
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[Ext User(Albm&ctd)]

In article <44e6fe76$0$482$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-
03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au>, plonked@home.ru says...
> ant wrote:
>
> > they remind me of raddled old goats, the way they carry on. Just droopy old
> > bags of skin.
> >
> Anybody else picturing saggy tits on wannabee lamb?
>
Islam..b nooo Ismutto..n

Al
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It's more fun to insult everyone.
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