Telstra to turn on 3G marvel next month

[Ext User(Intel Inside)]

"TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion
third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months earlier
than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3."

in today's issue of www.smh.com.au

[Ext User(Michael)]

"Intel Inside" <Intel_Inside@thespamfactory.com> wrote in message
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> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion
> third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months earlier
> than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3."

Thats a very accurate date indeed.

[Ext User(Intel Inside)]

Michael,
at last you have given us some information - (that's all we ask for
considering this is a *news* group).
I think it will be an interesting and hopefully successful debut for the new
network.
Thanks


"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Intel Inside" <Intel_Inside@thespamfactory.com> wrote in message
> news:LEILg.24440$rP1.24211@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion
>> third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months
>> earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3."
>
> Thats a very accurate date indeed.
>
>

[Ext User(Nole Boaday)]

It will be a success! Nobody will be able to use it, therefore, nobody
will be able to criticize it ;-)


Intel Inside wrote:
> Michael,
> at last you have given us some information - (that's all we ask for
> considering this is a *news* group).
> I think it will be an interesting and hopefully successful debut for the new
> network.
> Thanks
>
>
> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8enMg.25645$rP1.23331@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> "Intel Inside" <Intel_Inside@thespamfactory.com> wrote in message
>> news:LEILg.24440$rP1.24211@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion
>>> third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months
>>> earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3."
>> Thats a very accurate date indeed.

[Ext User(NOYFB)]

Is that the 3G 850 network or the UMTS network for us plebs in rgional areas
who purchsed UMTS handsets like the V3X with the promise that we'd be going
3G in the near future?

"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Intel Inside" <Intel_Inside@thespamfactory.com> wrote in message
> news:LEILg.24440$rP1.24211@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion
>> third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months
>> earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3."
>
> Thats a very accurate date indeed.
>
>

[Ext User(Paul Day)]

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:40:27 +1000 NOYFB may have written:
> Is that the 3G 850 network or the UMTS network for us plebs in rgional areas
> who purchsed UMTS handsets like the V3X with the promise that we'd be going
> 3G in the near future?

3G 850 _is_ UMTS. Things like the V3X don't support 3GSM/UMTS/W-CDMA at
850MHz. You got told a furfy if you bought it on the premise that you'd
have 1900/2100MHz UMTS in regional areas soon. :)

PD

--
Paul Day
Web: http://www.enigma.id.au/

[Ext User(thegoons)]

"Paul Day" <pauls@enigma.id.au> wrote in message
news:1158274658.632458@colossus.enigma.id.au...
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:40:27 +1000 NOYFB may have written:
>> Is that the 3G 850 network or the UMTS network for us plebs in rgional
>> areas
>> who purchsed UMTS handsets like the V3X with the promise that we'd be
>> going
>> 3G in the near future?
>
> 3G 850 _is_ UMTS. Things like the V3X don't support 3GSM/UMTS/W-CDMA at
> 850MHz. You got told a furfy if you bought it on the premise that you'd
> have 1900/2100MHz UMTS in regional areas soon.

.......and have a case to return and get a refund or complain to TIO



--
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[Ext User(Intel Inside)]

Paul Day stated what I was thinking, "the V3X don't support 3GSM/UMTS/W-CDMA
at 850MHz" if you check its specifications.


"NOYFB" <stmcg@IH8SPAMMERS.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45093fbf@news1.veridas.net...
> Is that the 3G 850 network or the UMTS network for us plebs in rgional
> areas who purchsed UMTS handsets like the V3X with the promise that we'd
> be going 3G in the near future?
>
> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8enMg.25645$rP1.23331@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Intel Inside" <Intel_Inside@thespamfactory.com> wrote in message
>> news:LEILg.24440$rP1.24211@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1
>>> billion third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three
>>> months earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in
>>> T3."
>>
>> Thats a very accurate date indeed.
>>
>>
>
>

[Ext User(bacco007)]

Paul Day wrote:

> 3G 850 _is_ UMTS. Things like the V3X don't support 3GSM/UMTS/W-CDMA at
> 850MHz. You got told a furfy if you bought it on the premise that you'd
> have 1900/2100MHz UMTS in regional areas soon. :)


My local Telstra shop tried to sell me a v3x by telling me that it did
support the new network...

[Ext User(NOYFB)]

Oh well, at lest the GSM coverage is better than Bloody Virgin/Floptus

"Intel Inside" <Intel_Inside@thespamfactory.com> wrote in message
news:dfwOg.29300$rP1.18900@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Paul Day stated what I was thinking, "the V3X don't support
> 3GSM/UMTS/W-CDMA at 850MHz" if you check its specifications.
>
>
> "NOYFB" <stmcg@IH8SPAMMERS.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45093fbf@news1.veridas.net...
>> Is that the 3G 850 network or the UMTS network for us plebs in rgional
>> areas who purchsed UMTS handsets like the V3X with the promise that we'd
>> be going 3G in the near future?
>>
>> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:8enMg.25645$rP1.23331@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Intel Inside" <Intel_Inside@thespamfactory.com> wrote in message
>>> news:LEILg.24440$rP1.24211@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1
>>>> billion third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three
>>>> months earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in
>>>> T3."
>>>
>>> Thats a very accurate date indeed.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Ext User(DaN)]

and now just a further 6-12month wait untill the handsets become avalible

Intel Inside wrote:
> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion
> third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months earlier
> than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3."
>
> in today's issue of www.smh.com.au
>
>

[Ext User(Kubalister)]

You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate
JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the
existing 2100 3GSM and GSM coverage.

DaN wrote:
>
>
> and now just a further 6-12month wait untill the handsets become avalible
>
> Intel Inside wrote:
>> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1
>> billion third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three
>> months earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest
>> in T3."
>>
>> in today's issue of www.smh.com.au
>>
>>

[Ext User(Intel Inside)]

Maybe ... maybe not. Ask Michael, or wait until next month to see.


"DaN" <news@danscomp.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> and now just a further 6-12month wait untill the handsets become avalible
>
> Intel Inside wrote:
>> "TELSTRA is expected to switch on its brand new and national $1.1 billion
>> third-generation mobile network as soon as October 6, three months
>> earlier than planned as part of an attempt to spruik interest in T3."
>>
>> in today's issue of www.smh.com.au
>>

[Ext User(Graeme Willox)]

Kubalister wrote:
> You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate
> JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the
> existing 2100 3GSM and GSM coverage.
>

They look like a real bargain at only USD999. The model advertised on
www.imatephonestore.com has 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 bands according to
their website. (I don't know how authoritative they are. I found them
using a Google search).

[Ext User(Michael)]

"DaN" <news@danscomp.net> wrote in message
news:ZitPg.30783$rP1.21670@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>
> and now just a further 6-12month wait untill the handsets become avalible

The handsets are available on launch, dummy

[Ext User(Kubalister)]

Graeme Willox wrote:
> Kubalister wrote:
>> You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate
>> JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the
>> existing 2100 3GSM and GSM coverage.
>>
>
> They look like a real bargain at only USD999. The model advertised on
> www.imatephonestore.com has 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 bands according to
> their website. (I don't know how authoritative they are. I found them
> using a Google search).

Those bands are the GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands that it supports. It
ADDITIONALLY supports the 850, 1900, 2100 3GSM bands. i.e. EVERY
GSM/3GSM band used globally so it's perfect for travelling.

http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_JASJAM.aspx

[Ext User(Graeme Willox)]

Kubalister wrote:
> Graeme Willox wrote:
>> Kubalister wrote:
>>> You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate
>>> JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the
>>> existing 2100 3GSM and GSM coverage.
>>>
>>
>> They look like a real bargain at only USD999. The model advertised on
>> www.imatephonestore.com has 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 bands according to
>> their website. (I don't know how authoritative they are. I found
>> them using a Google search).
>
> Those bands are the GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands that it supports. It
> ADDITIONALLY supports the 850, 1900, 2100 3GSM bands. i.e. EVERY
> GSM/3GSM band used globally so it's perfect for travelling.
>
> http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_JASJAM.aspx

I think you're right. Looking through the specs they list, it would be
clearer if they didn't describe the 3G function of it as both WCDMA and
3GSM.

[Ext User(Kubalister)]

Graeme Willox wrote:
> Kubalister wrote:
>> Graeme Willox wrote:
>>> Kubalister wrote:
>>>> You're more than welcome to wait. The rest of us can buy the imate
>>>> JasJam next month for use with the new 850 band along with all the
>>>> existing 2100 3GSM and GSM coverage.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They look like a real bargain at only USD999. The model advertised
>>> on www.imatephonestore.com has 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 bands
>>> according to their website. (I don't know how authoritative they
>>> are. I found them using a Google search).
>>
>> Those bands are the GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands that it supports. It
>> ADDITIONALLY supports the 850, 1900, 2100 3GSM bands. i.e. EVERY
>> GSM/3GSM band used globally so it's perfect for travelling.
>>
>> http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_JASJAM.aspx
>
> I think you're right. Looking through the specs they list, it would be
> clearer if they didn't describe the 3G function of it as both WCDMA and
> 3GSM.

Labelling 3GSM as anything else is very confusing to people not aware of
the technology and standards.
Sure, it can also be called UMTS/W-CDMA, but the GSM association has
officially designated 3GSM as the correct marketing label for 3rd
generation GSM services using the UMTS/W-CDMA standard.
Merely calling it UMTS (as some handset manufacturers do) is confusing
as there are multiple variations of UMTS that have nothing to do with
the GSM standards and W-CDMA is just a label for a wider than usual CDMA
radio interface protocol.
For iMate to label the 3GSM band support as W-CDMA is as meaningless as
labelling the 2GSM band support as "TDMA".

Oh well, that's what you get when you combine clueless marketing droids
with engineers that can't write a single word in English.

[Ext User(Graeme Willox)]

Kubalister wrote:

> Labelling 3GSM as anything else is very confusing to people not aware of
> the technology and standards.

I accept everything else you say, but the term 3GSM could cause some
confusion for some people. Many people know of the distance limitation
of GSM. Calling it 3GSM will surely cause confusion about its range.
In rural areas, range would be the main reason many people would want to
connect to this new network.

I guess it's both GSM and WCDMA and neither. It would be nice if they'd
given it a better name, but I suppose that outside of Australia and
perhaps North America, there are few countries which use the existing
GSM where range is much of an issue.

[Ext User(mabs)]

Kubalister wrote:
> Graeme Willox wrote:
> > They look like a real bargain at only USD999. The model advertised on
> > www.imatephonestore.com has 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 bands according to
> > their website. (I don't know how authoritative they are. I found them
> > using a Google search).
>
> Those bands are the GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands that it supports. It
> ADDITIONALLY supports the 850, 1900, 2100 3GSM bands. i.e. EVERY
> GSM/3GSM band used globally so it's perfect for travelling.
>
> http://www.clubimate.com/t-DETAILS_JASJAM.aspx

And just to stuff them all up, the US spectrum auctions have been just
completed for frequencies that could be used for the new UMTS 1.7/2.1
band, which is incompatible with UMTS 2100. Americans always have to
do it differently.