Drove another 380 ES

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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:48:46 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au>
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><OzOne> wrote in message news:6gogh2dvsvu57aoo5mv6ck15qcsajr2tku@4ax.com...
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>> Oh,,so stating another fact is an attempt to gain credibility.....very
>> interesting.
>
>It is.
>
>> You should try fact instead of opinion now and then.....
>
>Funny how my opinion is just that, while yours are "fact". I think you're
>Kieron Murphy's love child :)

Rare that you quote a fact Nod,,,,,rare that you back up an opinion.
Seems we need to just accept your opinions as fact..
Like the Magna interior space 'facts' proved you wrong a couple of
times with the actual measurements from manufacturers data and yet you
still maintain your 'opinion' is truer than the fact.


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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 00:47:05 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au>
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><OzOne> wrote in message news:9dogh21aaa91clc04t1alu15619440807a@4ax.com...
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>> I don't need to apologise for correcting you...it's my duty.
>
>Let me know when you plan to start, won't you?
>
>I wouldn't want to blink and miss it :)

Yep, thought as much...your opinion over fact every time.


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On 26 Sep 2006 01:11:58 GMT, Ron <X101@newsguy.com> scribbled thusly:

>And you only JUST figured that out :-)

Bwaaahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaaa!

Guess that makes you the 2nd dumbest now.......


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<OzOne> wrote in message news:902hh2101q8vhgumfbt1ohq19fe9g4e4bs@4ax.com...

> Here's your post Nod
>
> ">The "Holden Forum" only sprang up *after* Clocky said there wasn't a
>>problem. Prior to that, Clocky was the souce of the info :)
>
> Would you like to jump into Google and that forum and have a look at
> the dates?
> Feel free.....
>
> Nah, didn't think so...easier to just manufacture the facts as you see
> em!

Oz, you're short by a few days.

Go back *further* to when clocky first mentioned seat belts and you assumed
they had problems, and then see how far after he said this wasn't the case
that you fist mentioned the Forum posts.

I'll wait here :)

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<OzOne> wrote in message news:q72hh2h5oca3g33ut0ibms5ddgo0ev5ivm@4ax.com...

> Rare that you quote a fact Nod,,,,,rare that you back up an opinion.
> Seems we need to just accept your opinions as fact..

And this is different to you (or most others) how exactly?

> Like the Magna interior space 'facts' proved you wrong a couple of
> times with the actual measurements from manufacturers data and yet you
> still maintain your 'opinion' is truer than the fact.

Prove me wrong?

Excuse me, but wasn't it *you* who said they're smaller than a Commodore in
certain interior measurements? 80mm I seem to recall as being the case. If
you think that's "nothing worth worrying about", then try sitting in a chair
that's three inches too narrow and see how comfortable it is.

You wanna think the Magna/380 is a large car, then that's fine with me. The
Falcon is a large car in my *opinion*, and the Commy *just* cuts it.

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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 04:36:20 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au>
scribbled thusly:

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><OzOne> wrote in message news:902hh2101q8vhgumfbt1ohq19fe9g4e4bs@4ax.com...
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>> Here's your post Nod
>>
>> ">The "Holden Forum" only sprang up *after* Clocky said there wasn't a
>>>problem. Prior to that, Clocky was the souce of the info :)
>>
>> Would you like to jump into Google and that forum and have a look at
>> the dates?
>> Feel free.....
>>
>> Nah, didn't think so...easier to just manufacture the facts as you see
>> em!
>
>Oz, you're short by a few days.
>
>Go back *further* to when clocky first mentioned seat belts and you assumed
>they had problems, and then see how far after he said this wasn't the case
>that you fist mentioned the Forum posts.
>
>I'll wait here :)

Talking about the date of the post in the forum Nod...thick you are!


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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 04:40:07 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au>
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><OzOne> wrote in message news:q72hh2h5oca3g33ut0ibms5ddgo0ev5ivm@4ax.com...
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>> Rare that you quote a fact Nod,,,,,rare that you back up an opinion.
>> Seems we need to just accept your opinions as fact..
>
>And this is different to you (or most others) how exactly?
>
>> Like the Magna interior space 'facts' proved you wrong a couple of
>> times with the actual measurements from manufacturers data and yet you
>> still maintain your 'opinion' is truer than the fact.
>
>Prove me wrong?

Again?
Nah..you'd ignore it yet again.
>
>Excuse me, but wasn't it *you* who said they're smaller than a Commodore in
>certain interior measurements? 80mm I seem to recall as being the case. If
>you think that's "nothing worth worrying about", then try sitting in a chair
>that's three inches too narrow and see how comfortable it is.

Ummm Nod, I also said they were bigger in quite a few..important nes
like front seat legroom.

BTW, there is plenty of shoulder room....the 80mm is not missed,
particularly when you notice that the seats are nearly the same and
it's just the shoulder bulge of the Holden that makes the numbers.
>
>You wanna think the Magna/380 is a large car, then that's fine with me. The
>Falcon is a large car in my *opinion*, and the Commy *just* cuts it.

Where do you get this stuff?
When did I mention the 380?
When did I call it a large car?

Commy cuts it if you ignore half the dimensions ..those which were the
same or even smaller than the Magna..and look only at the ones that
were bigger.
IIRC front legroom was bigger in the Magna than the Falcon...by a tiny
amount...but I'm not as silly as you and try basing the whole vehicle
on that measurement.


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<OzOne> wrote in message news:1cdhh2hqaffndj20m8d4r9pcduadn3ldbl@4ax.com...

> Ummm Nod, I also said they were bigger in quite a few..important nes
> like front seat legroom.

And smaller in others, like shoulder width, right?

Boy, there's nothing like being able to stretch your legs when your
shoulders are cramped. Ever flown cattle class?

> BTW, there is plenty of shoulder room....the 80mm is not missed,
> particularly when you notice that the seats are nearly the same and
> it's just the shoulder bulge of the Holden that makes the numbers.

I'll have to take your word for it, but three and a bit inches sounds like a
big difference to me.

> Where do you get this stuff?

What stuff?

> When did I mention the 380?

You didn't. I did.

> When did I call it a large car?

You called the Magna a large car some posts back. Do you not remember?

> Commy cuts it if you ignore half the dimensions ..those which were the
> same or even smaller than the Magna..and look only at the ones that
> were bigger.

Kinda, but not really.

> IIRC front legroom was bigger in the Magna than the Falcon...by a tiny
> amount...but I'm not as silly as you and try basing the whole vehicle
> on that measurement.

I wouldn't, but thanks for the offer.

What the measurements are on paper often doesn't mean much, for exactly the
reasons you say. Sitting your arse in a car will give you a better idea in
an instant than looking at figures and trying to guess. I've sat in the back
seat of all three, and the Falcon is far and away the largest of the lot in
that area, with the Commy being not all that far behind.

The Magna, while probably being a little more comfy, also felt more
"confined", and as roomy as a Camry.

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<OzOne> wrote in message news:8adhh29fo8jcki7loptm5s23j6ke4vqklj@4ax.com...

> Talking about the date of the post in the forum Nod...thick you are!

How is that relevant?

We're talking about when *you* first mentioned it here, not what you managed
to find after you'd been caught out :)

[Ext User(Andy)]

OzOne wrote:
> On 25 Sep 2006 06:37:51 -0700, "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com>
> scribbled thusly:
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>
> >> Did you turn the fan on?
> >> Aircon doesn't work without the fan switched on.
> >
> >
> >Auto and auto.
> >
>
> Sounds like it was buggered.....did you ask for a refund/discount?
>

Yes I did.

>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 06:52:28 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au>
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><OzOne> wrote in message news:8adhh29fo8jcki7loptm5s23j6ke4vqklj@4ax.com...
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>> Talking about the date of the post in the forum Nod...thick you are!
>
>How is that relevant?
>
>We're talking about when *you* first mentioned it here, not what you managed
>to find after you'd been caught out :)
>
>
Ahh but then you're assuming that I made it up when the facts show
that I'd had access to the rumour before I mentioned it here.


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<OzOne> wrote in message news:re9ih25q6aa093u3u0in865k7703onjn5l@4ax.com...

> Ahh but then you're assuming that I made it up when the facts show
> that I'd had access to the rumour before I mentioned it here.

No, I'm not assuming anything Oz.

*You* assumed there was a problem with the pre tensioners after Clocky first
mentioned seat belts, and when I originally asked you what it was you even
quoted Clocky as your source for the info. The fact that information from
*other* sources is/was available was something you never mentioned until
*after* Clocky corrected you, and you went off on a face saving mission to
find it :)

Let it rest Oz, we're over it.

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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:40:18 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au>
scribbled thusly:

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><OzOne> wrote in message news:re9ih25q6aa093u3u0in865k7703onjn5l@4ax.com...
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>> Ahh but then you're assuming that I made it up when the facts show
>> that I'd had access to the rumour before I mentioned it here.
>
>No, I'm not assuming anything Oz.
>
>*You* assumed there was a problem with the pre tensioners after Clocky first
>mentioned seat belts, and when I originally asked you what it was you even
>quoted Clocky as your source for the info. The fact that information from
>*other* sources is/was available was something you never mentioned until
>*after* Clocky corrected you, and you went off on a face saving mission to
>find it :)
>
>Let it rest Oz, we're over it.

You mean..I don't want to accept the facts...OK.I'm bored anyway


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<OzOne> wrote in message news:jslkh2pvlr5a1o87c6mm4tu75ebva3r0ki@4ax.com...

> You mean..I don't want to accept the facts...OK.I'm bored anyway

Yep, me too :)

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