Checking 3G coverage

[Ext User(Graeme Willox)]

Every day since Sol tried to shower all his guests at his soiree, I've
been trying to check the Next G coverage, but Telstra's site says that
they're experiencing heavy demand on their servers. Has anyone here
been able to get this to work?

[Ext User(Kubalister)]

Graeme Willox wrote:
> Every day since Sol tried to shower all his guests at his soiree, I've
> been trying to check the Next G coverage, but Telstra's site says that
> they're experiencing heavy demand on their servers. Has anyone here
> been able to get this to work?

Yep, works fine (occasionally it does report as being busy but most of
the time it works ok).
Just make sure you allow pop-ups for that site, otherwise the new window
won't be displayed.

[Ext User(Spokes)]

Kubalister wrote:
> Graeme Willox wrote:
> > Every day since Sol tried to shower all his guests at his soiree, I've
> > been trying to check the Next G coverage, but Telstra's site says that
> > they're experiencing heavy demand on their servers. Has anyone here
> > been able to get this to work?
>
> Yep, works fine (occasionally it does report as being busy but most of
> the time it works ok).
> Just make sure you allow pop-ups for that site, otherwise the new window
> won't be displayed.

It works okay for me. It has been getting a lot of attention lately!

[Ext User([BnH])]

Everywhere is covered ! ... according to the Telstra marketing ppl that bugs
me during business hours on my Vodafone line.


"Graeme Willox" <graemewillox@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:eh50o7$oj$1@news-02.connect.com.au...
> Every day since Sol tried to shower all his guests at his soiree, I've
> been trying to check the Next G coverage, but Telstra's site says that
> they're experiencing heavy demand on their servers. Has anyone here been
> able to get this to work?

[Ext User(Kubalister)]

[BnH] wrote:
> Everywhere is covered ! ... according to the Telstra marketing ppl that bugs
> me during business hours on my Vodafone line.

Almost everywhere:
http://www.bigpond.com/managed_content/images/internet-plans/broadband/hsdpa/national.jpg

[Ext User(Michael)]

"Kubalister" <Kubalister@no.spam.here> wrote in message
news:45360c04$0$78443$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
> Graeme Willox wrote:
>> Every day since Sol tried to shower all his guests at his soiree, I've
>> been trying to check the Next G coverage, but Telstra's site says that
>> they're experiencing heavy demand on their servers. Has anyone here been
>> able to get this to work?
>
> Yep, works fine (occasionally it does report as being busy but most of the
> time it works ok).
> Just make sure you allow pop-ups for that site, otherwise the new window
> won't be displayed.

Telstra have reported that there is high demand on the site and to be
patient

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
> Kubalister <Kubalister@no.spam.here> wrote
>> Graeme Willox wrote

>>> Every day since Sol tried to shower all his guests at his soiree,
>>> I've been trying to check the Next G coverage, but Telstra's site
>>> says that they're experiencing heavy demand on their servers. Has
>>> anyone here been able to get this to work?

>> Yep, works fine (occasionally it does report as being busy but most
>> of the time it works ok).
>> Just make sure you allow pop-ups for that site, otherwise the new
>> window won't be displayed.

> Telstra have reported that there is high demand on the site and to be patient

Telstra should have had enough of a clue to increase the bandwidth available etc.

[Ext User(Michael)]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4pqdd8Fjus7mU1@individual.net...
> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Kubalister <Kubalister@no.spam.here> wrote
>>> Graeme Willox wrote
>
>>>> Every day since Sol tried to shower all his guests at his soiree,
>>>> I've been trying to check the Next G coverage, but Telstra's site
>>>> says that they're experiencing heavy demand on their servers. Has
>>>> anyone here been able to get this to work?
>
>>> Yep, works fine (occasionally it does report as being busy but most
>>> of the time it works ok).
>>> Just make sure you allow pop-ups for that site, otherwise the new
>>> window won't be displayed.
>
>> Telstra have reported that there is high demand on the site and to be
>> patient
>
> Telstra should have had enough of a clue to increase the bandwidth
> available etc.

Not feasible for a couple of days
>
>

[Ext User(Rod Speed)]

Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4pqdd8Fjus7mU1@individual.net...
>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Kubalister <Kubalister@no.spam.here> wrote
>>>> Graeme Willox wrote
>>
>>>>> Every day since Sol tried to shower all his guests at his soiree,
>>>>> I've been trying to check the Next G coverage, but Telstra's site
>>>>> says that they're experiencing heavy demand on their servers. Has
>>>>> anyone here been able to get this to work?
>>
>>>> Yep, works fine (occasionally it does report as being busy but most
>>>> of the time it works ok).
>>>> Just make sure you allow pop-ups for that site, otherwise the new
>>>> window won't be displayed.
>>
>>> Telstra have reported that there is high demand on the site and to
>>> be patient
>>
>> Telstra should have had enough of a clue to increase the bandwidth
>> available etc.
>
> Not feasible for a couple of days

Wrong, as always.

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

Michael said....

> Telstra have reported that there is high demand on the site and to be
> patient

How patient does one have to be? I've been trying to access this site
for the past 2 weeks. Last night it told me that the server was busy. I
tried probably a dozen times over a 2 hour period before giving up.

Anyway, I got the chance to check the coverage for NexG out over the
weekend. So far it was all fine, except for around Healesville, a region
NE of Melbourne in the Yarra Ranges. While I had coverage the 3G symbol
wasn't present.. Rather, it simply said "G". As this is a tri-band
phone, according to the blurb, if there isn't say, a NextG cell in
range, but there's a GSM cell, do these phones switch over?

At work it works fine. I'm working out of a multistorey concrete
structure which is about 12km from the nearest town. Where the nearest
cell tower is I don't know. But the Cell ID on the display is indicating
a town that's around 50 km away.

The internet speeds aren't bad. Certainly it's a hell of a lot quicker
than my wife's Nokia, which is a "normal" 3G phone, but in a 2G coverage
area. I can't compare it just yet as we've not had the chance to compare
them when in a proper 3G/NextG area such as Melbourne.

When I had a video call to my daughter who's with Three on one of its
$30 capped 3G plans, it was a bit jerky, like the old days with webcams
and a dialup connection. The voice side of things was fine, though.

Overall I'm happy with the unit. It has lots of gimmicky features such
as pesonallised SMS sounds, ringtones, etc..

And that's another matter. I can't believe that people actually pay to
get ringtones, not when there's any amount of stuff out there, or even
within your own CD collection that can be ripped as an MP3, then edited
down to a 30 sec clip (max ring time for a mobile) and transfered to the
phone.

Dunno if I'll make much use of the Bigpond service. It'll be handy for
looking up phone numbers, perhaps, along with addresses, when on the
road, given that the Telstra service only gives out the numbers and no
addresses, and for weather radar, shit like that.

Maybe business types will find the wireless internet service of use,
given that they're the only ones who'll be able to afford it (and to
claim it back on tax, expense reimbursement or whatever). For the rest
of us, it's an expensive gimmick.

And it's easy to rack up data, too. When I set the phone up, naturally I
had to have a play with it, testing the net, etc. I have accured 2.4
megs of data in probably a one week period. At 1.4 cents a kb, if that
figure is correct (if it's not Michael, perhaps you can enlighten us as
to what is the correct figure) then I have around $35 worth of data
charges.

Will see what the phone bill says when it comes. FOr some reason the
online billing service hasn't picked up the new phone yet, even though
I arranged it when I got the phone (for single billing home phone and
our two mobiles).

Overall, I'm happy with it. Just need to be able to get a reasonable 3rd
party organiser app that will run on it.

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

Michael said....

>>> Telstra have reported that there is high demand on the site and to be
>>> patient
>>
>> Telstra should have had enough of a clue to increase the bandwidth
>> available etc.
>
> Not feasible for a couple of days

Why not?

Anyway, it's finally working. Sort of.

The pop-up window has zoom in/out buttons. But they do not work. I tried
to zoom in and out, mainly out, to get a better perspective of NextG's
coverage in a particular area, but it doesn't work. I tried it with
Firefox and IE. I can pan around the map but that's slower than treacle
to redraw or update.

[Ext User(Michael)]

"Emjaye" <emjaye_t@yarwho.com.au> wrote in message
news:453dcfaf.00001647.bm005@yarwho.com.au...
> Michael said....
>
>> Telstra have reported that there is high demand on the site and to be
>> patient
>
> How patient does one have to be? I've been trying to access this site
> for the past 2 weeks. Last night it told me that the server was busy. I
> tried probably a dozen times over a 2 hour period before giving up.

I didnt have any trouble recently. About 4-5 days ago

> When I had a video call to my daughter who's with Three on one of its
> $30 capped 3G plans, it was a bit jerky, like the old days with webcams
> and a dialup connection. The voice side of things was fine, though.

Thats because video calling is a wank

> And that's another matter. I can't believe that people actually pay to
> get ringtones, not when there's any amount of stuff out there, or even
> within your own CD collection that can be ripped as an MP3, then edited
> down to a 30 sec clip (max ring time for a mobile) and transfered to the
> phone.

Smacks of effort, to the young un's

> And it's easy to rack up data, too. When I set the phone up, naturally I
> had to have a play with it, testing the net, etc. I have accured 2.4
> megs of data in probably a one week period. At 1.4 cents a kb, if that
> figure is correct (if it's not Michael, perhaps you can enlighten us as
> to what is the correct figure) then I have around $35 worth of data
> charges.

1.5c/kb for PAYG rate

> Will see what the phone bill says when it comes. FOr some reason the
> online billing service hasn't picked up the new phone yet, even though
> I arranged it when I got the phone (for single billing home phone and
> our two mobiles).

Online billing is instantaneous. I suspect your service is on a mobile
account not linked to online billing. If you are in the process of single
billing, it soon will be

[Ext User(Tsunami Australai)]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com:
> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> > Kubalister <Kubalister@no.spam.here> wrote
>
> >> Graeme Willox wrote
>
>
> >>> Every day since Sol tried to shower all his guests at his soiree,
> >>> I've been trying to check the Next G coverage, but Telstra's site
> >>> says that they're experiencing heavy demand on their servers. Has
> >>> anyone here been able to get this to work?
>
>
> >> Yep, works fine (occasionally it does report as being busy but most
> >> of the time it works ok).
> >> Just make sure you allow pop-ups for that site, otherwise the new
> >> window won't be displayed.
>
>
> > Telstra have reported that there is high demand on the site and to be
> > patient
>
>
> Telstra should have had enough of a clue to increase the bandwidth
> available etc.

That's the exact same thing I said to them when their phone reps were
too busy stuffing my order around and spitting out all the incorrect
bullshit.

[Ext User(Michael)]

>> Telstra should have had enough of a clue to increase the bandwidth
>> available etc.
>
> That's the exact same thing I said to them when their phone reps were too
> busy stuffing my order around and spitting out all the incorrect bullshit.

This coming from someone who spells Australia as "Australai"

<guffaw>

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

Michael said....

>> That's the exact same thing I said to them when their phone reps were
>> too busy stuffing my order around and spitting out all the incorrect
>> bullshit.
>
> This coming from someone who spells Australia as "Australai"

If that is the best that you can do to try and defend Telstra, to pick
on someone's typo, then it says much for you and the organisation that
you represent.

[Ext User(Michael)]

"Emjaye" <emjaye_t@yarwho.com.au> wrote in message
news:4542c9ac.0000644d.bm000@yarwho.com.au...
> Michael said....
>
>>> That's the exact same thing I said to them when their phone reps were
>>> too busy stuffing my order around and spitting out all the incorrect
>>> bullshit.
>>
>> This coming from someone who spells Australia as "Australai"
>
> If that is the best that you can do to try and defend Telstra, to pick
> on someone's typo, then it says much for you and the organisation that

I believe I was commenting on someone spelling in that post, nothing more,
nothing less

> you represent.

I don't represent any organisation. Do you see any organisation in my
headers? Do I attach a sig to my posts?

[Ext User(Tsunami Australia)]

"Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:michael@yahoo.com:
> "Emjaye" <emjaye_t@yarwho.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4542c9ac.0000644d.bm000@yarwho.com.au...
>
> > Michael said....
> >
>
> >>> That's the exact same thing I said to them when their phone reps
> >>> were
> >>> too busy stuffing my order around and spitting out all the incorrect
> >>> bullshit.
> >>
>
> >> This coming from someone who spells Australia as "Australai"
> >
>
> > If that is the best that you can do to try and defend Telstra, to pick
> > on someone's typo, then it says much for you and the organisation that
>
>
> I believe I was commenting on someone spelling in that post, nothing more,
>
> nothing less
>
>
> > you represent.
>
>
> I don't represent any organisation. Do you see any organisation in my
> headers? Do I attach a sig to my posts?

Thankyou for the support Emjaye. It was a simple typo.

As for you Michael, are you saying that if we go through your posts, we
won't find ANY spelling errors or simple typos? Are you really
suggesting you are so perfect that you then have the right to critisize
others for their typos. Shit, I'd hate to see what you'd say to some
poor dislexic person if they managed to get on here you fool. Or is it
just your that bored because your too lazy to go out and do the things
most people have to, so to fill in your time, you look for something to
critisize?

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

Michael said....

>> to what is the correct figure) then I have around $35 worth of data
>> charges.
>
> 1.5c/kb for PAYG rate

Well, that charge is certainly making itself felt.

Have a look at below. What's the difference between the different types
of sessions? Aside from the obvious one, telstra.internet and the mms
one, what do they mean?

(I hope that this ain't a jumbled mess of text...)

9 Oct 12:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 11:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 10:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 09:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
29 Oct 08:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 07:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 06:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
29 Oct 05:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 04:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 03:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
29 Oct 01:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 12:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 11:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 10:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
28 Oct 09:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 08:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 07:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
28 Oct 06:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 05:05 pm telstra.internet 1 KB 0.01 0.01
28 Oct 04:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 03:08 pm telstra.mms 259 KB 0.00 0.00
28 Oct 03:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
28 Oct 02:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 01:04 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.wap 25 KB 0.34 0.38
27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.media 5 KB 0.00 0.00
27 Oct 05:53 pm telstra.wap 462 KB 6.30 6.93
27 Oct 04:06 pm telstra.wap 187 KB 2.55 2.80
27 Oct 04:06 pm telstra.media 5 KB 0.00 0.00
26 Oct 11:27 pm telstra.internet 399 KB 5.44 5.99
26 Oct 11:06 pm telstra.internet 421 KB 5.74 6.31

[Ext User(Kubalister)]

Emjaye wrote:
> Michael said....
>
>>> to what is the correct figure) then I have around $35 worth of data
>>> charges.
>> 1.5c/kb for PAYG rate
>
> Well, that charge is certainly making itself felt.
>
> Have a look at below. What's the difference between the different types
> of sessions? Aside from the obvious one, telstra.internet and the mms
> one, what do they mean?
>
> 28 Oct 04:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03

telstra.internet is the pay-as-you-go billing APN which provides non
filtered internet access to your handset.

> 28 Oct 03:08 pm telstra.mms 259 KB 0.00 0.00

telstra.mms is the APN used to send video and picture messages to the
preset server on the network and will only allow tunnels to that server.
It also sets the billing rate at a fixed amount (75c etc) per connection.

> 27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.wap 25 KB 0.34 0.38

telstra.wap is similar to telstra.internet BUT it doesn't allow direct
access. All requests are sent through a proxy that not only allows for
real-time billing (hence the availability to pre-paid) but also checks
the device type used to determine if it should be customised for a
smaller limited handset screen i.e handsets only capable of WAP
functionality rather than all the bells and whistles of full HTTP.

> 27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.media 5 KB 0.00 0.00

telstra.media is the APN used exclusively for Foxtel Mobile content. To
access the server hosting the content on the internal intranet you need
to access this APN. It also ensures that you're not billed any extra for
data after you pay the monthly fee.

The main differences between them are how the billing system is set up
to charge for access and what IP path and servers are accessible.
There are other APN's such as telstra.pcpack & telstra.datapack that
allow customers who have subscribed to a monthly data bundle to be
billed at those rates. If a user with a data bundle accessed the
telstra.internet APN they would be charged at PAYG rates.

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

Kubalister said....

> telstra.internet is the pay-as-you-go billing APN which provides non
> filtered internet access to your handset.

Thanks for the info. It's appreciated. Just one more question - what's
"APN"?

Anyway, as you can see, it's damned easy to rack up data charges. I've
had the phone two weeks, I think, and I've already hit around $60 in
data charges. Now that the novelty has worn off, it'll only be used when
necessary.

I'm impressed with the phone, though. Works well, comfortable to use,
nice feel to the keys and the screen looks OK, not grainy, etc. Only
thing is the software limitation between PC and phone. I can't manage
the contacts/address book directly from the PC as the phone doesn't
support that function. Rather, I have to do it in a roundabout way.
Export the data via the sync. function, then import it into Outlook.
However, when I update a record or records I can only do a complete
sync. The records overwrite what's on the phone, or it adds to them, thu
duplicating each entry. And for the ones that it overwrites, all the
info such as assigned ringtones for each individual contact is deleted.
The PC software doesn't recognise that data.

Whatever the main thing is that I can now root around and eventually
sync my Palm Desktop software with the phone via Outlook....