Earlier this evening

[Ext User(Athol)]

Steve <stephen.magee@gmail.com> wrote:

> LOL. Although, as an aside, it amazes me to think of the large number
> of people who think that, when the light turns green for them,
> simultaneously a large steel barrier rises out of the road to stop
> people coming through a red light.

In a lot of ways, it's a shame they're wrong.

> I was sitting at the traffic lights at Blue Gum Rd Jesmond a few years
> back, when an immaculately restored EH left at the first glimmer of
> green, only to be totalled by a crappy old Colt that ran the red. I can
> still here the slowing kbang, kbang, kbang of the EH's mill (think fan
> on radiator noise, only much louder). Talk about cry.

My brother, who lives in Charlestown, has owned 48 EHs over the years.

Quite a few of those were $20 rust buckets bought for parts, but some
were replacements for cars that he crashed.

On the traffic light subject, he was slowing for a red light on the
Pacific Hwy at the top of Northcote Drive. The lights went green before
he got there, so he gave the thing a bootful... Turbocharged 186 putting
out about 350HP managed to get his EH completely in front of a car that
ran the red while turning right out of Northcote Drive. That pushed him
onto the median traffic light pole, which came into the driver's A-pillar.
His car then swung around the pole, with the driver's rear quarter
smacking the front of a car waiting to turn right into Northcote Drive.

Worst part was that the red light runner was with friends who were behind
her. They claimed that she didn't run the red and blamed my brother.
He thus wore the damage to his own car plus the car that he was pushed
onto but strangely, the woman who drove into him didn't claim against him.

He also learned not to swerve for animals on the road the hard way by
rolling another EH on the Devil's Elbow at Belmont North after swerving to
avoid a dog. He got a lot of stone tray dents after that. :-p

> What happened to the Colt? Dunno. Who cares.

Prezackly.

> Always look.

Always do.

A good driver is not someone who avoids running into anyone else. That is
a normal driver. A good driver is someone who avoids letting others cause
a crash with them.

I think I worked that out somewhere in my mid 20s and haven't had anyone
run into me since. :-) Believe it or not, I have never been in the wrong
in a crash and have never even run into another vehicle that got into my
way.

I've worn the cost of crashing into a kerb once to avoid the idiot who
pulled out in front of me, but they later redesigned the roundabout on
Newcastle Road at Jesmond to eliminate the lane I was in so I blamed the
road, not the fact that I was off sick with concussion at the time and
probably shouldn't have been driving that quick around the outside lane on
the roundabout... :-)

I'm just trying to work out how long ago that was. Hmm. Must have been
late 1997 or early 1998. Had access to tyre machine, balancer and aligner
at the time so paid for a bottom ball joint and straightening of one steel
rim, scrounged a spare bottom wishbone and did the rest myself.

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[Ext User(D Walford)]

the_dawggie wrote:
> atec77 wrote:
>> Sitting at the light on the Mt Lindsey , bike in the right lane -left
>> right on the green , quickly and didn't wait the obligatory 1 second ,
>> redl-ight runner got him .Luckily there were two of us who knew cpr so
>> he will make it
>>
>> I might be charged with assaulting the drunk who hit him...
>> (fingers crossed) as the coppers didn't think him being pissed was any
>> reason for him to fall down quite so hard .
>>
>> (Even Honda riders don't deserve being hit)
>
> Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
> parts to get a handle on that post?

I had to read it twice but I did understand it in the end:-)


Daryl

[Ext User(John McKenzie)]

Noddy wrote:
>
> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
> > parts to get a handle on that post?
>
> Nope.
>
> Sometimes (actually, almost always) reading his posts is a bit like watching
> the movie "Contact". You just don't get it unless you have the cipher key.
>

Trust me, even _with_ the key, it's still somewhat er, poetic.



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[Ext User(Athol)]

John McKenzie <jmac@alphalink.com.au> wrote:

> Trust me, even _with_ the key, it's still somewhat er, poetic.

We're talking about atec. Cut out the euphamistic BS, will ya? :-)

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[Ext User(Ed)]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:32:23 +1000, atec77 wrote:

> the_dawggie wrote:
>> Noddy (nospam) wrote:
>>> "Athol" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:1161224437.2507@idlwebserver.idl.com.au...
>>>
>>>> I don't know why he'd have his fingers crossed that he will be charged
>>>> with assault.
>>> Many thanks.
>>>
>>> I can get on with the rest of my day now and not have to wonder what the
>>> *fuck* he was on about :)
>>
>> Yeah, same here as it was bothering me. There might also
>> be a lesson in there somewhere that you don't decide to go
>> from 0 to 100 kph in a short period of time at the same
>> microsecond the 'lights change to green.
>>
>> Ooops ... did similar to that today - but looked around first.
>>
> Exactly my point , wait just a moment as lately relight running is
> assuming academic proportions

Well, the Howard Govt is doing all it can to lower academic
levels in Orstralia, do you think you could do better?

[Ext User(Andy)]

atec77 > wrote:
> Smee R11S wrote:
>> From what I understand and it's scary to think i understand atec
>> Red light runner knocked a rider off his bike.
>> Atec rendered assistancce and also gave the red light runner who was a
>> drink driver a thump.
>
> I did not thump him , he fell down and I failed to catch him correctly
>
> he also didn't get away and is on the bad end of trying to abscond
>
> several other charges including running the light and trying to kill the
>
> honda rider .

Er...OK...he 'fell down'.

Nice work, anyway :-)

Cheers,

Andy. (the other Andy.)

[Ext User(atec77)]

John McKenzie wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
>>> parts to get a handle on that post?
>> Nope.
>>
>> Sometimes (actually, almost always) reading his posts is a bit like watching
>> the movie "Contact". You just don't get it unless you have the cipher key.
>>
>
> Trust me, even _with_ the key, it's still somewhat er, poetic.
>
>
>
Not my fault if you cant see the body language and hand gestures
and you know I tend to speak in short'

[Ext User(D Walford)]

Ed wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:01:19 -0700, the_dawggie wrote:
>
>> atec77 wrote:
>>> Sitting at the light on the Mt Lindsey , bike in the right lane -left
>>> right on the green , quickly and didn't wait the obligatory 1 second ,
>>> redl-ight runner got him .Luckily there were two of us who knew cpr so
>>> he will make it
>>>
>>> I might be charged with assaulting the drunk who hit him...
>>> (fingers crossed) as the coppers didn't think him being pissed was any
>>> reason for him to fall down quite so hard .
>>>
>>> (Even Honda riders don't deserve being hit)
>> Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
>> parts to get a handle on that post?
>
> Basically he wanted to convey that he's a tough guy, and not to be trifled
> with. Apparently we are supposed to be impressed or something.
>
Seems like he did all the right things in the situation, assisting an
injured motorcyclist and then assisting a drunk that caused the injuries
to "fall down" are perfectly normal things to do and are to be commended:-)


Daryl

[Ext User(atec77)]

D Walford wrote:
> Ed wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:01:19 -0700, the_dawggie wrote:
>>
>>> atec77 wrote:
>>>> Sitting at the light on the Mt Lindsey , bike in the right lane -left
>>>> right on the green , quickly and didn't wait the obligatory 1 second ,
>>>> redl-ight runner got him .Luckily there were two of us who knew cpr so
>>>> he will make it
>>>>
>>>> I might be charged with assaulting the drunk who hit him...
>>>> (fingers crossed) as the coppers didn't think him being pissed was any
>>>> reason for him to fall down quite so hard .
>>>>
>>>> (Even Honda riders don't deserve being hit)
>>> Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
>>> parts to get a handle on that post?
>>
>> Basically he wanted to convey that he's a tough guy, and not to be
>> trifled
>> with. Apparently we are supposed to be impressed or something.
>>
> Seems like he did all the right things in the situation, assisting an
> injured motorcyclist and then assisting a drunk that caused the injuries
> to "fall down" are perfectly normal things to do and are to be commended:-)
>
>
> Daryl
Correct Daza , all those years working around the pubs of Brissy

taught me to

"do the right thing"

and I really tried not to have the drunk fall down HARD.

[Ext User(Andy)]

D Walford wrote:
> Ed wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:01:19 -0700, the_dawggie wrote:
>>
>>> atec77 wrote:
>>>> Sitting at the light on the Mt Lindsey , bike in the right lane -left
>>>> right on the green , quickly and didn't wait the obligatory 1 second ,
>>>> redl-ight runner got him .Luckily there were two of us who knew cpr so
>>>> he will make it
>>>>
>>>> I might be charged with assaulting the drunk who hit him...
>>>> (fingers crossed) as the coppers didn't think him being pissed was any
>>>> reason for him to fall down quite so hard .
>>>>
>>>> (Even Honda riders don't deserve being hit)
>>> Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
>>> parts to get a handle on that post?
>>
>> Basically he wanted to convey that he's a tough guy, and not to be
>> trifled
>> with. Apparently we are supposed to be impressed or something.
>>
> Seems like he did all the right things in the situation, assisting an
> injured motorcyclist and then assisting a drunk that caused the injuries
> to "fall down" are perfectly normal things to do and are to be commended:-)


Agreed 100%. 'Falling down' is what drunk people do, and can be
dangerous if not 'supervised' by caring folks like Atec.

Andy (the other Andy.)

[Ext User(feral)]

the_dawggie wrote:

> However, don't get the above.

77 and some other joker administered CPR to a patient who had
a pulse. :-(

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[Ext User(Noddy)]

"feral" <plonked@home.ru> wrote in message
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> 77 and some other joker administered CPR to a patient who had a pulse. :-(

Yeah, I was wondering about that too.

If someone has been injured in an accident but is still breathing, then CPR
is the *last* thing you should be thinking about. You run the very real risk
of turning a major injury into a tragic one.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 14:13:03 +1000, blathered on:

> On 18 Oct 2006 21:06:49 -0700, "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com>
> scribbled thusly:
>>
>>> So only two or three cars go through on each green phase. Followed
>>> by another on amber; and one on red...
>>
>>Yup, generally what huppens.
>
> Which is exactly why people are reluctant to take off as soon as the
> light turns green

True - but you'd suppose the bastards would actually have a look about
the intersection while it was effectively 'dead'.
Or is that all too difficult?

[Ext User(Clockmeister)]

"atec77" <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
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> John McKenzie wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
>>>> parts to get a handle on that post?
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> Sometimes (actually, almost always) reading his posts is a bit like
>>> watching
>>> the movie "Contact". You just don't get it unless you have the cipher
>>> key.
>>>
>>
>> Trust me, even _with_ the key, it's still somewhat er, poetic.
>>
>>
>>
> Not my fault if you cant see the body language and hand gestures
> and you know I tend to speak in short'

Bloody wog!

[Ext User(Clockmeister)]

"D Walford" <walford@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:45374585$0$504$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au...
> Ed wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:01:19 -0700, the_dawggie wrote:
>>
>>> atec77 wrote:
>>>> Sitting at the light on the Mt Lindsey , bike in the right lane -left
>>>> right on the green , quickly and didn't wait the obligatory 1 second ,
>>>> redl-ight runner got him .Luckily there were two of us who knew cpr so
>>>> he will make it
>>>>
>>>> I might be charged with assaulting the drunk who hit him...
>>>> (fingers crossed) as the coppers didn't think him being pissed was any
>>>> reason for him to fall down quite so hard .
>>>>
>>>> (Even Honda riders don't deserve being hit)
>>> Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
>>> parts to get a handle on that post?
>>
>> Basically he wanted to convey that he's a tough guy, and not to be
>> trifled
>> with. Apparently we are supposed to be impressed or something.
>>
> Seems like he did all the right things in the situation, assisting an
> injured motorcyclist and then assisting a drunk that caused the injuries
> to "fall down" are perfectly normal things to do and are to be
> commended:-)
>
>

Yeah, but my bullshit detector went off...

[Ext User(Knobdoodle)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote:
> "feral" <plonked@home.ru> wrote in message
> news:45374c09$0$497$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-
>
>> 77 and some other joker administered CPR to a patient who had a pulse.
>> :-(
>
> Yeah, I was wondering about that too.
>
> If someone has been injured in an accident but is still breathing, then
> CPR is the *last* thing you should be thinking about. You run the very
> real risk of turning a major injury into a tragic one.
>
Hence the broken ribs?
--
Knob

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hence the broken ribs?

Perhaps :)

Motorcyclists in particular are very susceptible to spinal injuries in
collisions (or fucking smashed hips, but that's another story), and
performing CPR on someone who is breathing on their own can make matters a
shitload worse.

If they can be moved into the "Coma" position without risk, then fine. Make
sure their airway is clear and try to keep them warm to prevent shock, and
then just wait for the Ambo's.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Scotty)]

"atec77" <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
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> John McKenzie wrote:
>> Noddy wrote:
>>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
>>>> parts to get a handle on that post?
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> Sometimes (actually, almost always) reading his posts is a bit like
>>> watching
>>> the movie "Contact". You just don't get it unless you have the cipher
>>> key.
>>>
>>
>> Trust me, even _with_ the key, it's still somewhat er, poetic.
>>
>>
>>
> Not my fault if you cant see the body language and hand gestures
> and you know I tend to speak in short'

Short we get, gibberish is a tad harder to comprehend.....

[Ext User(atec77)]

Scotty wrote:
> "atec77" <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
> news:453743e4$0$4668$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
>> John McKenzie wrote:
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Am I the only folk here that needed to scratch various body
>>>>> parts to get a handle on that post?
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes (actually, almost always) reading his posts is a bit like
>>>> watching
>>>> the movie "Contact". You just don't get it unless you have the cipher
>>>> key.
>>>>
>>> Trust me, even _with_ the key, it's still somewhat er, poetic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Not my fault if you cant see the body language and hand gestures
>> and you know I tend to speak in short'
>
> Short we get, gibberish is a tad harder to comprehend.....
>
>
Pot etc.

[Ext User(atec77)]

feral wrote:
> the_dawggie wrote:
>
>> However, don't get the above.
>
> 77 and some other joker administered CPR to a patient who had a pulse. :-(
>
Short way of saying we helped in , lost a lot of skin and was heading
into shock , you really are a pedantic old c^&t