query abc reception thru foxtel on plasma?

[Ext User(jils)]

recently bought a hitachi 42" HD ready plasma. digital signal comes in
via a foxtel IQ box. don't remember a problem with the digital reception
on the old philips flat screen, but on the plasma the abc reception is
truly horrible.

we have a scart to component cable connecting the IQ box to the tv.
is there anything else we can do to improve the reception of the abc
channels, apart from maybe give them more than eight cents a day?

appreciate any advice on this. or an indication that it isn't just us ...

[Ext User(atec77)]

jils wrote:
> recently bought a hitachi 42" HD ready plasma. digital signal comes in
> via a foxtel IQ box. don't remember a problem with the digital reception
> on the old philips flat screen, but on the plasma the abc reception is
> truly horrible.
>
> we have a scart to component cable connecting the IQ box to the tv.
> is there anything else we can do to improve the reception of the abc
> channels, apart from maybe give them more than eight cents a day?
>
> appreciate any advice on this. or an indication that it isn't just us ...
Check the actual fta transmission , I expect it's the compression from
fuxtel.

[Ext User(jils)]

atec77 > wrote:

> Check the actual fta transmission , I expect it's the compression from
> fuxtel.

thanks ... in my ignorance, how do i do that? !

[nohope]

Check Foxtel SBS reception. If it looks the same as ABC, its your signal source.

You get a bigger screen, any artefacts detracting from the picture become more noticeable.

How to check ABC? Get a set top box and hook it up, and do an A/B comparison. That'll show you!

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

jils said....

> recently bought a hitachi 42" HD ready plasma.

What do you mean by "HD ready"?

[Ext User(PHATRS)]

Emjaye wrote:
> jils said....
>
>> recently bought a hitachi 42" HD ready plasma.
>
> What do you mean by "HD ready"?
>
>

Capable of displaying an HD picture but doesn't have a HD tuner,
perhaps? I have a 37" Hitachi like that.

--
Ben
Car related lyric of the week: "Can't you see me, overtakin? All the
while I'm salivating. Won't you let me push a little thrust up you?"

[Ext User(jils)]

that's how it's described by the shop and the manufacturer. "high
definition ready". i suppose that means when the tv stations start
broadcasting in high definition, theoretically we'll be able to watch it!

Emjaye wrote:
> jils said....
>
>> recently bought a hitachi 42" HD ready plasma.
>
> What do you mean by "HD ready"?
>
>

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

PHATRS said....

>>> recently bought a hitachi 42" HD ready plasma.
>>
>> What do you mean by "HD ready"?

> Capable of displaying an HD picture but doesn't have a HD tuner,
> perhaps? I have a 37" Hitachi like that.

I've always wondered why this term "xxx ready" was used. Years ago they
used to advertise Tvs as "cable ready", which to me was meainingless.
All TVs are "cable ready", if they have an AV input for the decoder...

[Ext User(PHATRS)]

Emjaye wrote:
> PHATRS said....
>
>>>> recently bought a hitachi 42" HD ready plasma.
>>> What do you mean by "HD ready"?
>
>> Capable of displaying an HD picture but doesn't have a HD tuner,
>> perhaps? I have a 37" Hitachi like that.
>
> I've always wondered why this term "xxx ready" was used. Years ago they
> used to advertise Tvs as "cable ready", which to me was meainingless.
> All TVs are "cable ready", if they have an AV input for the decoder...
>
>

It would have been incorrect to label them as cable TVs if they didn't
have cable decoders built in.


--
Ben
Car related lyric of the week: "Can't you see me, overtakin? All the
while I'm salivating. Won't you let me push a little thrust up you?"

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

PHATRS said....

>> I've always wondered why this term "xxx ready" was used. Years ago they
>> used to advertise Tvs as "cable ready", which to me was meainingless.
>> All TVs are "cable ready", if they have an AV input for the decoder...

> It would have been incorrect to label them as cable TVs if they didn't
> have cable decoders built in.

Didn't say that. Just that they said that they were "cable ready",
which, as I said, is a meaningless if not superfluous, term.

[nohope]

PHATRS said....
Years ago they used to advertise Tvs as "cable ready", which to me was meainingless.
All TVs are "cable ready", if they have an AV input for the decoder...

Bzzzzt.

It means the tuner in the TV operates outside the normal range of free to air channels to enable reception of cable channels.

Also called hyperband tuner.

Wasn't always meaningless as it could overcome some TV distribution issues.

[ministry]

The cable you have from your foxtel, is it scart to composite?
meaning it has usually 3 or six cables coming out of it to hook up to the plasma? I use a scart to component cable on my setup and abc is probably one of the best pictures on foxtel, along with channel 9.

[Ext User(PHATRS)]

Emjaye wrote:
> PHATRS said....
>
>>> I've always wondered why this term "xxx ready" was used. Years ago they
>>> used to advertise Tvs as "cable ready", which to me was meainingless.
>>> All TVs are "cable ready", if they have an AV input for the decoder...
>
>> It would have been incorrect to label them as cable TVs if they didn't
>> have cable decoders built in.
>
> Didn't say that. Just that they said that they were "cable ready",
> which, as I said, is a meaningless if not superfluous, term.

I agree. But calling an HD display, an HD ready TV is not superfluous.
They should call them HD displays, that way they can drop the
potentially confusing "HD ready" labelling.


--
Ben

[Ext User(jils)]

yes, i bought a scart to composite following advice for best reception.
last night the abc reception was pretty good. it seems to vary. it's
especially awful when the bill is on! it's broken up, pixelly (is that a
word?) and even snowy.

ministry wrote:
> The cable you have from your foxtel, is it scart to composite?
> meaning it has usually 3 or six cables coming out of it to hook up to
> the plasma? I use a scart to component cable on my setup and abc is
> probably one of the best pictures on foxtel, along with channel 9.
>
>

[Ext User(Oz)]

"PHATRS" <nosp@m.thanks.mate> wrote in message
news:an8a14-va4.ln1@teri.unico.com.au...
> Emjaye wrote:
>> PHATRS said....
>>>> I've always wondered why this term "xxx ready" was used. Years ago they
>>>> used to advertise Tvs as "cable ready", which to me was meainingless.
>>>> All TVs are "cable ready", if they have an AV input for the decoder...
>>
>>> It would have been incorrect to label them as cable TVs if they didn't
>>> have cable decoders built in.
>>
>> Didn't say that. Just that they said that they were "cable ready",
>> which, as I said, is a meaningless if not superfluous, term.
>
> I agree. But calling an HD display, an HD ready TV is not superfluous.
> They should call them HD displays, that way they can drop the potentially
> confusing "HD ready" labelling.


But that would make them liable to a law suit, because "Joe Average" will go
out an buy a "HD" display and when he gets it home and hooks it up to the
old Samsung VCR to use as a tuner, he will be VERY VERY disappointed with
the results. and in this litigious society we live in, some half baked Judge
will award him millions because HE was the dumb one for expecting to se a HD
picture from a decidedly low def source, remember we have to protect
ourselves from the lowest common denominator now days :-(
labelling as "HD Ready" is a way out of a potential "Stupidity" law suit :-)

Oz

[Ext User(jils)]

any other bill fans out there? just watched tonight's episode. appalling
reception. breaking up, snowy, now it seems i can narrow down the poor
reception to just one program. the bill always looked ok before. is the
bill just lousy on plasma or what? <sigh>

jils wrote:

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

nohope said....

> It means the tuner in the TV operates outside the normal range of free
> to air channels to enable reception of cable channels.

Given that this isn't an option for us in Oz, why even mention it, then?
We can only get "cable" via a decoder and a satellite dish. Presumably,
those on real cable pay TV have something similar tacked onto their TVs.

[Ext User(Emjaye)]

Oz said....

> But that would make them liable to a law suit, because "Joe Average"
> will go out an buy a "HD" display and when he gets it home and hooks it
> up to the old Samsung VCR to use as a tuner, he will be VERY VERY

And the courts, or even the lawyer to whom he runs, will tell him to
take a hike. Unless, of course, the potentional client is rich. But if
he was, he'd probably own all the proper gear, anyway.

[nohope]

any other bill fans out there? just watched tonight's episode. appalling
reception. breaking up, snowy, now it seems i can narrow down the poor
reception to just one program. the bill always looked ok before. is the
bill just lousy on plasma or what? <sigh>

jils wrote:

It is the source material. I don't the bill normally but was asked to record it and saw the problem you mention. Was told by the person I did it for that it has been like that for a while.

[nohope]

nohope said....

> It means the tuner in the TV operates outside the normal range of free
> to air channels to enable reception of cable channels.

Given that this isn't an option for us in Oz, why even mention it, then?
We can only get "cable" via a decoder and a satellite dish. Presumably,
those on real cable pay TV have something similar tacked onto their TVs.

Can be handy in a large distribution system to minimise interaction of channels etc, but I agree, joe average wouldn't give or need a toss.