VW Jetta.

[Ext User(OzOne)]

Great car...


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OzOne wrote:
> Great car...

Golf with a boot
NOT Made In Germany
To many superior built/quality Japanese vehicles for the same coin


>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
> We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(PHATRS)]

OzOne wrote:
> Great car...
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
> We've been expecting you.

You are a man of few words. And I am a man of stating the bleeding obvious.

So what about the Jetta do you think is greatest?

--
Ben
Car related lyric of the week: "Rollin', in my 5.0, with my ragtop down
so my hair can blow"

[Ext User(PHATRS)]

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מיוחדי�PT-141& P2 Member wrote:
> OzOne wrote:
>> Great car...
>
> Golf with a boot
> NOT Made In Germany
> To many superior built/quality Japanese vehicles for the same coin

In your opinion, which Jap vehicles are superior for the same coin?

--
Ben
Car related lyric of the week: "Rollin', in my 5.0, with my ragtop down
so my hair can blow"

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 01:10:02 GMT, PHATRS <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
scribbled thusly:

>OzOne wrote:
>> Great car...
>>
>>
>> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>>
>> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
>> We've been expecting you.
>
>You are a man of few words. And I am a man of stating the bleeding obvious.
>
>So what about the Jetta do you think is greatest?

Drives beautifull and goes like stink.
That 6 speed preselect gearbox is an absolute treat!

Oh and it's boot is bigger than a commodore!


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"PHATRS" <nosp@m.thanks.mate> wrote in message
news:ofkf24-gro.ln1@teri.unico.com.au...
> OzOne wrote:
>> Great car...
>>
>>
>> Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
>> We've been expecting you.
>
> You are a man of few words. And I am a man of stating the bleeding
> obvious.
>
> So what about the Jetta do you think is greatest?

A great car to Jettabout with?

--
Regards
Dan

[Ext User(John Hudson)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:5i7al2t7hlda1ddem891n8p56e6hi1rg4a@4ax.com...
> Great car...
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
> We've been expecting you.

Better than a 380?

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 02:29:46 GMT, "John Hudson" <huddo@bigpond.net.au>
scribbled thusly:

>
><OzOne> wrote in message news:5i7al2t7hlda1ddem891n8p56e6hi1rg4a@4ax.com...
>> Great car...
>>
>>
>> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>>
>> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
>> We've been expecting you.
>
>Better than a 380?
>
Yes, I'd say so.
Better that anything built here IMHO.


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We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(sgam@hotmail.com)]

OzOne wrote:
> Great car...
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
> We've been expecting you.

Just talking to one of the reps who visits my business regularly, and
when they trade in the Falcodore repmobile, it's being replaced with
the turbo-diesel Jetta. He's driven it, and is thinking "why didn't we
do this before?" He's quite impressed. And the savings will rack up
fairly quickly, too, in his line of work (1000-2000km/week).

Cheers,
Steve

[Ext User(David Z)]

The Bora was an excellent car as well, however it was more expensive so it
didn't sell as well.

The Jetta is basically a $32,990 Civic and Corolla competitor, although VW
would have you believe that it takes on the Accord instead (and even then,
it's more expensive). It's just too expensive (and underpowered) for what
it is.

Why didn't VW fit the 2.5L 5-cylinder engine that they get in North America,
to the Jetta here? Then at least it could boast a larger engine than
Accord/Mazda/Camry. Over there, the Jetta sells for only US$16,490
(A$21,500), which is only a few grand more than its rivals (Civic sedan is
US$15,000) and *significantly* less than Accord and Camry (which are both
around US$20k).

So Jetta is 10% more expensive than Civic in the US. If that were the case
here, Jetta would sell for $23,700 AUD!

If VW Australia wanted to be serious about the Jetta and sell it in big
numbers, they should have priced it between 24-27k. At the moment they are
selling less than 400 Jettas a month compared to 4,000 Corollas. Their
loss.

<OzOne> wrote in message news:5i7al2t7hlda1ddem891n8p56e6hi1rg4a@4ax.com...
> Great car...
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
> We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Andy)]

OzOne wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 02:29:46 GMT, "John Hudson" <huddo@bigpond.net.au>
> scribbled thusly:
>
> >
> ><OzOne> wrote in message news:5i7al2t7hlda1ddem891n8p56e6hi1rg4a@4ax.com...
> >> Great car...
> >>
> >>
> >> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
> >>
> >> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
> >> We've been expecting you.
> >
> >Better than a 380?
> >
> Yes, I'd say so.


I just keeled over and died!!!! Oz said something is better tha a 380?



> Better that anything built here IMHO.

Fracking hell it is built in Mexico. It is a Golf (SA made) with a
boot. And all the talk I have heard is that the Golf is better built.

You have low standards Oz.


>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>
> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
> We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Bernd Felsche)]

"David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> writes:

>The Bora was an excellent car as well, however it was more
>expensive so it didn't sell as well.

>The Jetta is basically a $32,990 Civic and Corolla competitor,
>although VW would have you believe that it takes on the Accord
>instead (and even then, it's more expensive). It's just too
>expensive (and underpowered) for what it is.

>Why didn't VW fit the 2.5L 5-cylinder engine that they get in North
>America, to the Jetta here? Then at least it could boast a larger

Because the US 2.5L doesn't give any more useful power than the 2.0
TDI (or the 2.0FSI) and it uses as shirtload more fuel. Don't even
think about comparing it to the 2.0 TFSI.

Size isn't important; it's what you can do with it that's relevant.

We have clean fuels in Oz and the FSI and TDI can make good,
efficient use of them. The 2.5-litre engine is necessary because the
crappy fuels can't be used (sensibly) in the FSI engines. Also being
port-injected, the 2.5 are *much* cheaper to make than the
direct-injection engines for the rest of the world.

>engine than Accord/Mazda/Camry. Over there, the Jetta sells for
>only US$16,490 (A$21,500), which is only a few grand more than its
>rivals (Civic sedan is

It only has to come from Mexico.

You also overlook a minor factor like taxes and duties. A fully
loaded Jetta 2.0 TDI with DSG can be bought for under AU$38k; and
the TFSI is still under $40k + on-road...

>US$15,000) and *significantly* less than Accord and Camry (which are both
>around US$20k).

>So Jetta is 10% more expensive than Civic in the US. If that were
>the case here, Jetta would sell for $23,700 AUD!

And the base-model Jetta in the US is way down on eqt specs compared
to the entry level in Oz.; which btw starts just shy of $33k.

The market demographics and the way that manufacturers try to
exploit them don't translate from one country to the next. If the
pov-pack 'rolla in the USA is cheap, it's because they can make them
cheaply for that market and stil lsell them; or at least, have them
on the price list to draw in the punters.

>If VW Australia wanted to be serious about the Jetta and sell it in big
>numbers, they should have priced it between 24-27k. At the moment they are
>selling less than 400 Jettas a month compared to 4,000 Corollas. Their
>loss.

The only "trick" VW have to perform is to get the punters to take a
test drive.
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[Ext User(David Z)]

"Bernd Felsche" <bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:d51h24x9te.ln2@innovative.iinet.net.au...
> "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>>The Bora was an excellent car as well, however it was more
>>expensive so it didn't sell as well.
>
>>The Jetta is basically a $32,990 Civic and Corolla competitor,
>>although VW would have you believe that it takes on the Accord
>>instead (and even then, it's more expensive). It's just too
>>expensive (and underpowered) for what it is.
>
>>Why didn't VW fit the 2.5L 5-cylinder engine that they get in North
>>America, to the Jetta here? Then at least it could boast a larger
>
> Because the US 2.5L doesn't give any more useful power than the 2.0
> TDI (or the 2.0FSI) and it uses as shirtload more fuel. Don't even
> think about comparing it to the 2.0 TFSI.

All fair points. The 2.5L has the same power figure but alot more torque.
The situation is quite the same with Subaru's Liberty. Subaru Australia
offer both a 2.0L and a 2.5L, both with the same power figure but the 2.5L
has more torque. It's not necessarily all that much thirstier because the
smaller engine has to do more work. I don't have the exact figures but I
bet the 2.5L Liberty outsells the 2.0L by a huge margin. VW should have
done the same.

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On 11 Nov 2006 04:21:19 -0800, "Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:



>
>I just keeled over and died!!!! Oz said something is better tha a 380?

Just shows what a fucking moron you are!
>
>
>
>> Better that anything built here IMHO.
>
>Fracking hell it is built in Mexico. It is a Golf (SA made) with a
>boot. And all the talk I have heard is that the Golf is better built.
>
>You have low standards Oz.


Yep...more proof!

I see you hear a lot..ever been within 100metres of either a Golf or a
Jetta?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:13:07 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:

>All fair points. The 2.5L has the same power figure but alot more torque.
>The situation is quite the same with Subaru's Liberty. Subaru Australia
>offer both a 2.0L and a 2.5L, both with the same power figure but the 2.5L
>has more torque. It's not necessarily all that much thirstier because the
>smaller engine has to do more work. I don't have the exact figures but I
>bet the 2.5L Liberty outsells the 2.0L by a huge margin. VW should have
>done the same.
>

David, the FSI turbo does 8l/100km and 7.2 0-100.
Hardly thirsty...


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We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Ron)]

"Andy" <pandoraandypandy@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1163247679.800710.282010@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:

>
> OzOne wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 02:29:46 GMT, "John Hudson"
>> <huddo@bigpond.net.au> scribbled thusly:
>>
>> >
>> ><OzOne> wrote in message
>> >news:5i7al2t7hlda1ddem891n8p56e6hi1rg4a@4ax.com...
>> >> Great car...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Oz1...of the 3 twins.
>> >>
>> >> I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
>> >> We've been expecting you.
>> >
>> >Better than a 380?
>> >
>> Yes, I'd say so.
>
>
> I just keeled over and died!!!! Oz said something is better tha a
> 380?
>
>
>
>> Better that anything built here IMHO.
>
> Fracking hell it is built in Mexico. It is a Golf (SA made) with a
> boot. And all the talk I have heard is that the Golf is better built.
>
> You have low standards Oz.
>

That is a well known fact :-)

[Ext User(David Z)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:f8icl2hqhkrkbinchjhpghnkkppd2dios8@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:13:07 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com>
> scribbled thusly:
>
>>All fair points. The 2.5L has the same power figure but alot more torque.
>>The situation is quite the same with Subaru's Liberty. Subaru Australia
>>offer both a 2.0L and a 2.5L, both with the same power figure but the 2.5L
>>has more torque. It's not necessarily all that much thirstier because the
>>smaller engine has to do more work. I don't have the exact figures but I
>>bet the 2.5L Liberty outsells the 2.0L by a huge margin. VW should have
>>done the same.
>>
>
> David, the FSI turbo does 8l/100km and 7.2 0-100.
> Hardly thirsty...

2.0 Jetta is 8.2L/100km, 200 Nm torque. 2.5L I5 has 228 Nm (14% more)
torque, and fuel economy is 10.7L/100km (city), and 7.8L/100km (highway). I
don't know how this compares to our 'combined cycle' figure?

This is from Wiki - "This new (2.5L) 20-valve DOHC engine is based on the
Lamborghini Gallardo's V10 with technology from the Bugatti Veyron, sharing
a similar head design and the same bore and stroke dimensions (82.5 x 92.8
mm)"

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:01:25 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:


>> David, the FSI turbo does 8l/100km and 7.2 0-100.
>> Hardly thirsty...
>
>2.0 Jetta is 8.2L/100km, 200 Nm torque. 2.5L I5 has 228 Nm (14% more)
>torque, and fuel economy is 10.7L/100km (city), and 7.8L/100km (highway). I
>don't know how this compares to our 'combined cycle' figure?

David,
FSI turbo does 8litres/100km, combined,gets 147kW and 280Nm
>



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(David Z)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:eqndl2pdbtcs2tcbo6329ujedv1n2lhvdn@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:01:25 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com>
> scribbled thusly:
>
>
>>> David, the FSI turbo does 8l/100km and 7.2 0-100.
>>> Hardly thirsty...
>>
>>2.0 Jetta is 8.2L/100km, 200 Nm torque. 2.5L I5 has 228 Nm (14% more)
>>torque, and fuel economy is 10.7L/100km (city), and 7.8L/100km (highway).
>>I
>>don't know how this compares to our 'combined cycle' figure?
>
> David,
> FSI turbo does 8litres/100km, combined,gets 147kW and 280Nm

What does the FSI turbo have to do with anything? I am suggesting that they
should have fitted the 2.5L engine in place of the 2.0L (non-turbo) petrol
engine.

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:12:39 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com>
scribbled thusly:

><OzOne> wrote in message news:eqndl2pdbtcs2tcbo6329ujedv1n2lhvdn@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 08:01:25 GMT, "David Z" <dave@hotmail.com>
>> scribbled thusly:
>>
>>
>>>> David, the FSI turbo does 8l/100km and 7.2 0-100.
>>>> Hardly thirsty...
>>>
>>>2.0 Jetta is 8.2L/100km, 200 Nm torque. 2.5L I5 has 228 Nm (14% more)
>>>torque, and fuel economy is 10.7L/100km (city), and 7.8L/100km (highway).
>>>I
>>>don't know how this compares to our 'combined cycle' figure?
>>
>> David,
>> FSI turbo does 8litres/100km, combined,gets 147kW and 280Nm
>
>What does the FSI turbo have to do with anything? I am suggesting that they
>should have fitted the 2.5L engine in place of the 2.0L (non-turbo) petrol
>engine.
>
And I'm pointing out that the 2.0turbo is a far better choice....


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.