New Nikon D40

[Ext User(Wayne J. Cosshall)]

Hi All,

Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
<http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>

Cheers,

Wayne
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[Ext User(Pete D)]

"Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
> --
> Wayne J. Cosshall
> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

Olympus thought there would be no market in the US for a very compact D-SLR,
what makes Nikon think there will be?

[Ext User(Digital Photography Now)]

No, Olympus couldn't guarantee to supply enough for more than one global
region before Christmas, so Europe got lucky.

The E-400 is still smaller and lighter than the Nikon D40.

Here's my take on the D40:

http://dpnow.com/3197.html

Ian

Digital Photography Now
http://dpnow.com


"Pete D" <no@email.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
> news:455c2045$0$3073$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
>> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>> --
>> Wayne J. Cosshall
>> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
>> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
>
> Olympus thought there would be no market in the US for a very compact
> D-SLR, what makes Nikon think there will be?
>

[Ext User(Bill Crocker)]

"Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
news:455c2045$0$3073$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> Hi All,
>
> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
> --
> Wayne J. Cosshall
> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

Don't get too excited. Only works with "G" lenses.

Bill Crocker

[Ext User(nospam)]

In article <IK6dnVD8W-FYDcHYnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@comcast.com>, Bill Crocker
<wcrocker007@comcast.net> wrote:

> Don't get too excited. Only works with "G" lenses.

wrong.

the only lens limitation with the d40 is that autofocus requires af-s
lenses. some af-s lenses are 'g' and others aren't. anything else
will be manual focus.

[Ext User(RichA)]

Digital Photography Now wrote:
> No, Olympus couldn't guarantee to supply enough for more than one global
> region before Christmas, so Europe got lucky.

I was told they only had 2000 available, for whatever reason. I was
also told that they would produce no more. Three more DSLRs are
supposedly coming.

[Ext User(just bob)]

"Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>

Is it me or are Nikon's cheap cameras getting dumber while the cheap Canon
cameras are getting smarter?

[Ext User(Thomas T. Veldhouse)]

In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems just bob <kilbyfan@aoldotcom> wrote:
>
> "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
> news:455c2045$0$3073$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
>> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>>
>
> Is it me or are Nikon's cheap cameras getting dumber while the cheap Canon
> cameras are getting smarter?
>

Hmm Nikon's cameras have always been feature rich per dollar spent as compared
to Canons. The D40 won't change that [considering the price].

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[Ext User(Bill)]

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
>>> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>>
>> Is it me or are Nikon's cheap cameras getting dumber while the
>> cheap Canon
>> cameras are getting smarter?
>
> Hmm Nikon's cameras have always been feature rich per dollar spent
> as compared
> to Canons. The D40 won't change that [considering the price].

I think that's the key point, price. The estimated price means the
price/performance ratio will be very good for consumers.

All of the new Canon Rebel cameras have been introduced at $1000 with
an 18-55 lense, but now you can buy a new Nikon with more than enough
features for entry level SLR users for about $600 with an 18-55 lense.
That might put a dent in the Canon XT/XTi sales for Christmas, even
with the price drops on the XT and XTi models.

[Ext User(Pete D)]

>
> Hmm Nikon's cameras have always been feature rich per dollar spent as
> compared
> to Canons. The D40 won't change that [considering the price].


<snip>

Mmmm, but not compared to the Pentaxes and Minoltas, which proves Nikon
correct that small and simple will win a market share.

[Ext User(Thomas T. Veldhouse)]

In rec.photo.digital Pete D <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Hmm Nikon's cameras have always been feature rich per dollar spent as
>> compared
>> to Canons. The D40 won't change that [considering the price].
>
>
> <snip>
>
> Mmmm, but not compared to the Pentaxes and Minoltas, which proves Nikon
> correct that small and simple will win a market share.
>

It will fill a niche in the SLR market. It will get a lot of those old film
SLR hold outs that really just point and shoot in program modes [like my
sister-in-law ... nice composition, but no technical ability].

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[Ext User(Thomas T. Veldhouse)]

In rec.photo.digital Bill <bill@c.a> wrote:
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:yb27h.7143$3t.1150@fe12.usenetserver.com...
>>>>
>>>> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
>>>> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>>>
>>> Is it me or are Nikon's cheap cameras getting dumber while the
>>> cheap Canon
>>> cameras are getting smarter?
>>
>> Hmm Nikon's cameras have always been feature rich per dollar spent
>> as compared
>> to Canons. The D40 won't change that [considering the price].
>
> I think that's the key point, price. The estimated price means the
> price/performance ratio will be very good for consumers.
>

Nothing wrong with that. It is not like Nikon is taking options away from the
more advanced users. Dollar per dollar, Nikon competes very well against
Canon and Canon has left the sub $600 niche wide open in the SLR market.

> All of the new Canon Rebel cameras have been introduced at $1000 with
> an 18-55 lense, but now you can buy a new Nikon with more than enough
> features for entry level SLR users for about $600 with an 18-55 lense.
> That might put a dent in the Canon XT/XTi sales for Christmas, even
> with the price drops on the XT and XTi models.
>

--
Thomas T. Veldhouse
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[Ext User(Wayne J. Cosshall)]

Pete D wrote:
> "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
> news:455c2045$0$3073$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
>> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>> --
>> Wayne J. Cosshall
>> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
>> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
>
> Olympus thought there would be no market in the US for a very compact D-SLR,
> what makes Nikon think there will be?
>
>
Personally I think there is a huge market for very compact dSLRs. There
are a lot of SLR owners who are really just point and shooters who if
they decide to upgrade will want something both cheap and not too big.

Choice is great.

Cheers,

Wayne

--
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/

[Ext User(kosh)]

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems just bob <kilbyfan@aoldotcom> wrote:
>
>>"Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
>>news:455c2045$0$3073$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
>>><http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>>>
>>Is it me or are Nikon's cheap cameras getting dumber while the cheap Canon
>>cameras are getting smarter?
>>
>
>
> Hmm Nikon's cameras have always been feature rich per dollar spent as compared
> to Canons. The D40 won't change that [considering the price].
>

hmm, i'm not so sure.... remember the F-50.... or even better, the
F-401.... hell, you didn't even have manual on the FG!

kosh

[Ext User(kosh)]

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> In rec.photo.digital Pete D <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>Hmm Nikon's cameras have always been feature rich per dollar spent as
>>>compared
>>>to Canons. The D40 won't change that [considering the price].
>>
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>Mmmm, but not compared to the Pentaxes and Minoltas, which proves Nikon
>>correct that small and simple will win a market share.
>>
>
>
> It will fill a niche in the SLR market. It will get a lot of those old film
> SLR hold outs that really just point and shoot in program modes [like my
> sister-in-law ... nice composition, but no technical ability].
>


there are many people who want more than a bridge camera... but don't
want a full blown SLR

kosh

[Ext User(Rob)]

Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne


Interesting shutter control.

[Ext User(Anthony)]

The EOS 10D is still available for order in Asia. Lots of canonistas
have also put their 300Ds, 350Ds and 20Ds on the used market and
upgraded. Me thinks the Nikon D40 is competing against those old Canon
cameras. The 10D is definitely lots better than the Nikon D40 despite
having almost the same pixel count.

The Nikon D40 is also going to compete against the (discounted) D70s
and the D50s that are still available in the market. Makes me wonder
what strategy Nikon is following. I wish Nikon has something to compete
against the Canon 5D so that Canon is forced to lower the premium on
that full-frame camera.

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>
> Nothing wrong with that. It is not like Nikon is taking options away from the
> more advanced users. Dollar per dollar, Nikon competes very well against
> Canon and Canon has left the sub $600 niche wide open in the SLR market.
>

[Ext User(Jim)]

On 2006-11-16 11:24:37 -0500, "Bill Crocker" <wcrocker007@comcast.net> said:

>
> "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
> news:455c2045$0$3073$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
>> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>> --
>> Wayne J. Cosshall
>> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
>> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
>
> Don't get too excited. Only works with "G" lenses.
>
> Bill Crocker

I suspect the only purchasers of this camera won't care. All new Nikon
glass will work with it. It doesn't strike me as a camera that will be
purchased by anyone with any significant investment in non AFD lenses
or even non-G lenses.


--
Jim <jen....not....home..remvdots...@....yahoo

[Ext User(Jim)]

On 2006-11-16 13:02:02 -0500, "just bob" <kilbyfan@aoldotcom> said:

>
> "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
> news:455c2045$0$3073$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Nikon USA has just announced the D40:
>> <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=774>
>>
>
> Is it me or are Nikon's cheap cameras getting dumber while the cheap
> Canon cameras are getting smarter?

A dumb digital camera that works is not a bad thing. I shoot RAW with
my D70s and will continue with whatever I buy in the future. Photoshop
is my firend. But, Dad a veteran of the Speed Graphic, Leica IIIf,
Nikon F and a Nikon F3 and Kodachrome when it was ASA 10 (yes for you
young ones, ASA 10 with f 3.5 lenses) bought a D50. I questioned his
judgement. In the past, he has taken many prize winning photographs.
It isn't the first time I have later admitted Dad was right and it won'
t be the last. He is compentent in Quicken, does on line banking etc.
But, trying to teach him the basics of PhotoShop Elements or Microsoft
Picture etc.. was well, a futile effort. So, with that D50 on JPEG
fine, large, he takes pictures, shoves the SD card in his Epson
printer and prints off some pretty amazing photos. He also takes the
card to the quicky one hour lab and likewise gets back very credible
pictures. Are they going to win the Salon Slide category month after
month, perhaps not, but they are still very worth while. If he had to
post process every shot, he wouldn't be taking pictures.


--
Jim <jen....not....home..remvdots...@....yahoo

[Ext User(Gerrit 't Hart)]

"Bill" <bill@c.a> wrote in message
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>
> All of the new Canon Rebel cameras have been introduced at $1000 with
> an 18-55 lense, but now you can buy a new Nikon with more than enough
> features for entry level SLR users for about $600 with an 18-55 lense.

Is that $600 Australian?

Maybe I bought my D50 too soon. :-)

Gerrit