How to send Foxtel IQ via wireless AV and have the Remote Control fully operational

[Ext User(Samiel Stoney)]

You may want to bookmark this post.

Like the hundreds of threads I've been researching over the past week, my
digital Foxtel picture is received crisp and clear on the 2nd TV from the
wireless AV sender.

Unfortunately, like the others I've researched, the Remote Control extender
was useless. Moving the IR mouse around the Foxtel IR to get the best
possible results resulted in getting the buttons to work about once in every
30 presses while waving the remote around the room.

I decided to upgrade my old 2.4GHz GigaAir 20R to a new wireless AV sender.

My research led me to a few options. The Pulse which claims it's Foxtel
digital compliant. The new Cocoon. The one on eBay designed specifically for
Foxtel digital. Or use my old one and buy a cheap Remote Control extender
(non-wireless).

Went to a few well known Electronics shops to get their opinion. The most
common response was that their products sometimes worked with Foxtel digital
and sometimes didn't. Settled on the Pulse as it mentions Foxtel digital on
the cover.

Swapped the Receiver over first. Tuned it to position 2 and it picked up my
GigaAir's transmission. A few slight lines scrolling down the screen. Next,
replaced the Sender and stuck the IR sensors in front of the Foxtel IR. The
result? A great picture (not as good as the Excellent picture I previously
had but great nether the less). The Remote Control? Nothing, zilch! Back to
moving the IR sensors around the Foxtel IR to find the best result. Managed
to find the best position where a button may respond in around 30 presses
while waving the remote around the room.

So same result as my previous AV sender except the picture quality was
slightly less. Re-packed the new unit back into its box and re-assembled my
old GigaAir. Back to Square One.

Like everyone else, my setup was to have the dishes of the sender and
receiver swivelled so that they "faced" each other. Brilliant picture.

Like everyone else, I had the sender "facing" the couch. The receiver
"facing" the bed so that it was in line of sight of the Remote Control.

Then I did something that made the Remote Control work first press every
time!

I repositioned the two UNITS to "face" each other as well as the two dishes
"facing" each other.
I stuck the IR mouse upside down on the roof of the shelf containing the
Foxtel box. As far as I could in front of the box in line with the Foxtel
IR. (In my case about 5cm in front and 15cm above). This allows the the
mouse to beam its rays down onto the front of the Foxtel box.

Everything working perfectly using an old AV Sender (as it will with the
Pulse now that I know the 'secret').

So, in summary.

Best Picture: Position the DISHES to "face" each other.
The Remote: Position the UNITS to "face" each other (the main culprit). And
position the IR mouse away from the Foxtel IR so that it can beam its spread
of rays over a wider area.

So, if anyone in an electronics shop tells you that their AV senders may or
may not work with Foxtel digital, just quietly laugh at them and ask for a
discount.

Enjoy!

[Ext User(tHe iNsIdEr)]

"lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:j60gh.7675$HU.7623@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Samiel Stoney wrote:
>
>> You may want to bookmark this post.
>>
>> Like the hundreds of threads I've been researching over the past week, my
>> digital Foxtel picture is received crisp and clear on the 2nd TV from the
>> wireless AV sender.
>>
>> Unfortunately, like the others I've researched, the Remote Control
>> extender was useless. Moving the IR mouse around the Foxtel IR to get the
>> best possible results resulted in getting the buttons to work about once
>> in every 30 presses while waving the remote around the room.
>>
>> I decided to upgrade my old 2.4GHz GigaAir 20R to a new wireless AV
>> sender.
>>
>> My research led me to a few options. The Pulse which claims it's Foxtel
>> digital compliant. The new Cocoon. The one on eBay designed specifically
>> for Foxtel digital. Or use my old one and buy a cheap Remote Control
>> extender (non-wireless).
>>
>> Went to a few well known Electronics shops to get their opinion. The most
>> common response was that their products sometimes worked with Foxtel
>> digital and sometimes didn't. Settled on the Pulse as it mentions Foxtel
>> digital on the cover.
>>
>> Swapped the Receiver over first. Tuned it to position 2 and it picked up
>> my GigaAir's transmission. A few slight lines scrolling down the screen.
>> Next, replaced the Sender and stuck the IR sensors in front of the Foxtel
>> IR. The result? A great picture (not as good as the Excellent picture I
>> previously had but great nether the less). The Remote Control? Nothing,
>> zilch! Back to moving the IR sensors around the Foxtel IR to find the
>> best result. Managed to find the best position where a button may respond
>> in around 30 presses while waving the remote around the room.
>>
>> So same result as my previous AV sender except the picture quality was
>> slightly less. Re-packed the new unit back into its box and re-assembled
>> my old GigaAir. Back to Square One.
>>
>> Like everyone else, my setup was to have the dishes of the sender and
>> receiver swivelled so that they "faced" each other. Brilliant picture.
>>
>> Like everyone else, I had the sender "facing" the couch. The receiver
>> "facing" the bed so that it was in line of sight of the Remote Control.
>>
>> Then I did something that made the Remote Control work first press every
>> time!
>>
>> I repositioned the two UNITS to "face" each other as well as the two
>> dishes "facing" each other.
>> I stuck the IR mouse upside down on the roof of the shelf containing the
>> Foxtel box. As far as I could in front of the box in line with the Foxtel
>> IR. (In my case about 5cm in front and 15cm above). This allows the the
>> mouse to beam its rays down onto the front of the Foxtel box.
>>
>> Everything working perfectly using an old AV Sender (as it will with the
>> Pulse now that I know the 'secret').
>>
>> So, in summary.
>>
>> Best Picture: Position the DISHES to "face" each other.
>> The Remote: Position the UNITS to "face" each other (the main culprit).
>> And position the IR mouse away from the Foxtel IR so that it can beam its
>> spread of rays over a wider area.
>>
>> So, if anyone in an electronics shop tells you that their AV senders may
>> or may not work with Foxtel digital, just quietly laugh at them and ask
>> for a discount.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>>
>
> "One for All" brand AV senders work with Foxtel digital and provide
> perfect picture and sound. Hard to find anyone who sells them tho.

I think Sammy's point is that *ALL* AV Senders work with Foxtel IQ.
Unlike Foxtel Analogue, Digital requires the units to be in line of sight
not just the dishes.
Just got my old AV Sender out of the shed (threw it in there when I got
Digital and the remote stopped working) and lo and behold I now get perfect
picture and the remote control works on every press now.
Well done Samuel. I'm nominating your post for "Post Of The Week".

--
eVs

[Ext User(lynx)]

tHe iNsIdEr wrote:

> "lynx" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:j60gh.7675$HU.7623@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> Samiel Stoney wrote:
>>
>>> You may want to bookmark this post.
>>>
>>> Like the hundreds of threads I've been researching over the past week, my
>>> digital Foxtel picture is received crisp and clear on the 2nd TV from the
>>> wireless AV sender.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, like the others I've researched, the Remote Control
>>> extender was useless. Moving the IR mouse around the Foxtel IR to get the
>>> best possible results resulted in getting the buttons to work about once
>>> in every 30 presses while waving the remote around the room.
>>>
>>> I decided to upgrade my old 2.4GHz GigaAir 20R to a new wireless AV
>>> sender.
>>>
>>> My research led me to a few options. The Pulse which claims it's Foxtel
>>> digital compliant. The new Cocoon. The one on eBay designed specifically
>>> for Foxtel digital. Or use my old one and buy a cheap Remote Control
>>> extender (non-wireless).
>>>
>>> Went to a few well known Electronics shops to get their opinion. The most
>>> common response was that their products sometimes worked with Foxtel
>>> digital and sometimes didn't. Settled on the Pulse as it mentions Foxtel
>>> digital on the cover.
>>>
>>> Swapped the Receiver over first. Tuned it to position 2 and it picked up
>>> my GigaAir's transmission. A few slight lines scrolling down the screen.
>>> Next, replaced the Sender and stuck the IR sensors in front of the Foxtel
>>> IR. The result? A great picture (not as good as the Excellent picture I
>>> previously had but great nether the less). The Remote Control? Nothing,
>>> zilch! Back to moving the IR sensors around the Foxtel IR to find the
>>> best result. Managed to find the best position where a button may respond
>>> in around 30 presses while waving the remote around the room.
>>>
>>> So same result as my previous AV sender except the picture quality was
>>> slightly less. Re-packed the new unit back into its box and re-assembled
>>> my old GigaAir. Back to Square One.
>>>
>>> Like everyone else, my setup was to have the dishes of the sender and
>>> receiver swivelled so that they "faced" each other. Brilliant picture.
>>>
>>> Like everyone else, I had the sender "facing" the couch. The receiver
>>> "facing" the bed so that it was in line of sight of the Remote Control.
>>>
>>> Then I did something that made the Remote Control work first press every
>>> time!
>>>
>>> I repositioned the two UNITS to "face" each other as well as the two
>>> dishes "facing" each other.
>>> I stuck the IR mouse upside down on the roof of the shelf containing the
>>> Foxtel box. As far as I could in front of the box in line with the Foxtel
>>> IR. (In my case about 5cm in front and 15cm above). This allows the the
>>> mouse to beam its rays down onto the front of the Foxtel box.
>>>
>>> Everything working perfectly using an old AV Sender (as it will with the
>>> Pulse now that I know the 'secret').
>>>
>>> So, in summary.
>>>
>>> Best Picture: Position the DISHES to "face" each other.
>>> The Remote: Position the UNITS to "face" each other (the main culprit).
>>> And position the IR mouse away from the Foxtel IR so that it can beam its
>>> spread of rays over a wider area.
>>>
>>> So, if anyone in an electronics shop tells you that their AV senders may
>>> or may not work with Foxtel digital, just quietly laugh at them and ask
>>> for a discount.
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>>
>> "One for All" brand AV senders work with Foxtel digital and provide
>> perfect picture and sound. Hard to find anyone who sells them tho.
>>
>
> I think Sammy's point is that *ALL* AV Senders work with Foxtel IQ.
>

I'm not sure that's true. In any case 'One for All' senders work
whichever way they're pointed. Mine are at 90deg to each other.

> Unlike Foxtel Analogue, Digital requires the units to be in line of sight
> not just the dishes.
> Just got my old AV Sender out of the shed (threw it in there when I got
> Digital and the remote stopped working) and lo and behold I now get perfect
> picture and the remote control works on every press now.
> Well done Samuel. I'm nominating your post for "Post Of The Week".
>
> --
> eVs
>
>
>


--

rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/
'Hi, my name is Any Key. Please don't hit me! '

[Ext User(Wayne Reid)]

"tHe iNsIdEr" <eVs@wHaTeVs.aU> wrote in message
news:em2hgh$qsr$1@news.datemas.de...



> I think Sammy's point is that *ALL* AV Senders work with Foxtel IQ.

Why wouldn't they?

> Unlike Foxtel Analogue, Digital requires the units to be in line of sight
> not just the dishes.

That bit sounded like he was on a trip.

> Just got my old AV Sender out of the shed (threw it in there when I got
> Digital and the remote stopped working) and lo and behold I now get
> perfect picture and the remote control works on every press now.
> Well done Samuel. I'm nominating your post for "Post Of The Week".

Especially this bit...

>>> I repositioned the two UNITS to "face" each other as well as the two
>>> dishes "facing" each other.
>>> I stuck the IR mouse upside down on the roof of the shelf containing the
>>> Foxtel box. As far as I could in front of the box in line with the
>>> Foxtel IR. (In my case about 5cm in front and 15cm above). This allows
>>> the the mouse to beam its rays down onto the front of the Foxtel box.

AFAIK, the AV bit of these senders was never an issue. The ability for some
brands to relay the remote signals wirelessly, then actually operate the
Foxtel boxes was an issue. The positioning of the IR LED (called the "mouse"
above) is important, but it wasn't the issue in many cases - the devices
just were not Foxtel compatible. Newer Fox boxes probably operate the remote
signals more in line with regular consumer electronics such as TVs and VCRs,
which means that AV Senders that didn't re-transmit remote signals
previously now do.

I'm thinking of nominating the bit about the mouse beaming its' rays down as
well.

[Ext User(Samiel Stoney)]

"Wayne Reid" <REMOVEgokangas@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xhQhh.23704$b6.222321@nasal.pacific.net.au...
>
> "tHe iNsIdEr" <eVs@wHaTeVs.aU> wrote in message
> news:em2hgh$qsr$1@news.datemas.de...
>
>
>
>> I think Sammy's point is that *ALL* AV Senders work with Foxtel IQ.
>
> Why wouldn't they?
>
>> Unlike Foxtel Analogue, Digital requires the units to be in line of sight
>> not just the dishes.
>
> That bit sounded like he was on a trip.
>
>> Just got my old AV Sender out of the shed (threw it in there when I got
>> Digital and the remote stopped working) and lo and behold I now get
>> perfect picture and the remote control works on every press now.
>> Well done Samuel. I'm nominating your post for "Post Of The Week".
>
> Especially this bit...
>
>>>> I repositioned the two UNITS to "face" each other as well as the two
>>>> dishes "facing" each other.
>>>> I stuck the IR mouse upside down on the roof of the shelf containing
>>>> the Foxtel box. As far as I could in front of the box in line with the
>>>> Foxtel IR. (In my case about 5cm in front and 15cm above). This allows
>>>> the the mouse to beam its rays down onto the front of the Foxtel box.
>
> AFAIK, the AV bit of these senders was never an issue. The ability for
> some brands to relay the remote signals wirelessly, then actually operate
> the Foxtel boxes was an issue. The positioning of the IR LED (called the
> "mouse" above) is important, but it wasn't the issue in many cases - the
> devices just were not Foxtel compatible. Newer Fox boxes probably operate
> the remote signals more in line with regular consumer electronics such as
> TVs and VCRs, which means that AV Senders that didn't re-transmit remote
> signals previously now do.
>
> I'm thinking of nominating the bit about the mouse beaming its' rays down
> as well.

Previously with the analogue setup I had two receivers; one in a room at 45
degrees to the right and the other in another room at 45 degrees to the
left. I even had the dishes lying flat and not facing each other. The
picture quality was good and the remote worked great from either room.

With the digital, I had to raise the dishes and point it left or right
depending on which remote TV I wanted the best picture. Still got a good
picture on both remote TV's if I had the dish facing between both rooms. But
to get the best possible picture I had to get the two dishes facing each
other.

The remote control was useless; worked intermittently on one TV but not at
all on the other. Tried taping the IR mouse over the Foxtel IR window etc
but to no avail.

When I positioned the sending and receiving units so that the IR lights were
in "line of sight" directly pointing at each other, the remote control
worked first time every time.

Positioning the IR mouse above and in front gave it a wider beaming range.

Now my set up is to have the dishes aligned with the front of each
sending/receiving unit.

If I want to use the TV in the room on the right, I turn the sender to face
that room (the dishes and IRs will both be in "line of sight") and on the
odd occasion I use the TV in the room to the left, I'll turn the sending
unit to that direction.

Hope that makes sense. I'm happy anyway. The Foxtel IQ can tape two shows at
once and I can set and view them from either room.