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rob1000
20-12-2006, 04:48 PM
I'm living in a Unit and the wall socket apparently connected to the Roof mounted Antenna is broken. I've currently got a cheap Indoor TV antenna ... would this work with Digital tv? i can currently pick up all stations fairly well. Im in Stanmore, sydney.

Has anyone tried this? What about a $50+ powered Internal Antenna from Dick smith/tandy etc would these be fine?

Im currently looking at getting a HD PCTV tuner card (Fusion)

Thanks for any advice

Ext User(Little Red Hen)
20-12-2006, 05:23 PM
"rob1000" <rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> I'm living in a Unit and the wall socket apparently connected to the
> Roof mounted Antenna is broken. I've currently got a cheap Indoor TV
> antenna ... would this work with Digital tv? i can currently pick up
> all stations fairly well. Im in Stanmore, sydney.
>
> Has anyone tried this? What about a $50+ powered Internal Antenna from
> Dick smith/tandy etc would these be fine?
>
> Im currently looking at getting a HD PCTV tuner card (Fusion)
>
> Thanks for any advice
>
>
> --
> rob1000

It may work if the signal strength AND quality are okay - also try to get a
high pass filter to knock out reception below ch 7 digital (ch 6 analog) as
there aren't any stations below this and that's the area where a lot of
electrical impulse noise comes in. Pixilation and sound dropouts etc..
BTW the I have the card and it works very well although I only live a few
K's from you I use an external Fracarro digital antenna (which is small
enough to have on a balcony)

rob1000
20-12-2006, 05:39 PM
"rob1000" <rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> I'm living in a Unit and the wall socket apparently connected to the
> Roof mounted Antenna is broken. I've currently got a cheap Indoor TV
> antenna ... would this work with Digital tv? i can currently pick up
> all stations fairly well. Im in Stanmore, sydney.
>
> Has anyone tried this? What about a $50+ powered Internal Antenna from
> Dick smith/tandy etc would these be fine?
>
> Im currently looking at getting a HD PCTV tuner card (Fusion)
>
> Thanks for any advice
>
>
> --
> rob1000

It may work if the signal strength AND quality are okay - also try to get a
high pass filter to knock out reception below ch 7 digital (ch 6 analog) as
there aren't any stations below this and that's the area where a lot of
electrical impulse noise comes in. Pixilation and sound dropouts etc..
BTW the I have the card and it works very well although I only live a few
K's from you I use an external Fracarro digital antenna (which is small
enough to have on a balcony)

hmm i'll think about the fracarro... after doing a search on the antenna i found several other threads discussing its use... The only problem is having yet MORE cables running around my apartment ;)

i might give the "Indoor Outdoor Digital TV Antenna" a try first. Its available from dick smith for $~65 L4074 (http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.filereader?43f4217d088393da273fc0a87f9c074f+EN/catalogs/CTG0001112).

When i get the new Fusion TV Card i'll let you's know how i go

Ext User(grumpy@mailinator.com)
20-12-2006, 06:23 PM
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:48:37 +1100, rob1000 <rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote:

>
> I'm living in a Unit and the wall socket apparently connected to the
> Roof mounted Antenna is broken. I've currently got a cheap Indoor TV
> antenna ... would this work with Digital tv? i can currently pick up
> all stations fairly well. Im in Stanmore, sydney.
>
> Has anyone tried this? What about a $50+ powered Internal Antenna from
> Dick smith/tandy etc would these be fine?
>
> Im currently looking at getting a HD PCTV tuner card (Fusion)

A friend is using a rabbit ears type antenna with his portable digital TV set. It is fine.

Ext User(Little Red Hen)
20-12-2006, 06:23 PM
"rob1000" <rob1000.2j3nlw@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Little Red Hen Wrote:
>> "rob1000" <rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au...
>> >
>> > I'm living in a Unit and the wall socket apparently connected to the
>> > Roof mounted Antenna is broken. I've currently got a cheap Indoor TV
>> > antenna ... would this work with Digital tv? i can currently pick up
>> > all stations fairly well. Im in Stanmore, sydney.
>> >
>> > Has anyone tried this? What about a $50+ powered Internal Antenna
>> from
>> > Dick smith/tandy etc would these be fine?
>> >
>> > Im currently looking at getting a HD PCTV tuner card (Fusion)
>> >
>> > Thanks for any advice
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > rob1000
>>
>> It may work if the signal strength AND quality are okay - also try to
>> get a
>> high pass filter to knock out reception below ch 7 digital (ch 6
>> analog) as
>> there aren't any stations below this and that's the area where a lot of
>> electrical impulse noise comes in. Pixilation and sound dropouts etc..
>> BTW the I have the card and it works very well although I only live a
>> few
>> K's from you I use an external Fracarro digital antenna (which is small
>> enough to have on a balcony)
>
> hmm i'll think about the fracarro... after doing a search on the
> antenna i found several other threads discussing its use... The only
> problem is having yet MORE cables running around my apartment ;)
>
> i might give the "Indoor Outdoor Digital TV Antenna" a try first. Its
> available from dick smith for $~65 'L4074'
> (http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.filereader?43f4217d088393da273fc0a87f9c074f+EN/catalogs/CTG0001112).
>
>
> When i get the new Fusion TV Card i'll let you's know how i go
>
>
> --
> rob1000

The Fracarro cost me $38

Ext User(Rheilly Phoull)
20-12-2006, 10:43 PM
<grumpy@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:48:37 +1100, rob1000
> <rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm living in a Unit and the wall socket apparently connected to the
>> Roof mounted Antenna is broken. I've currently got a cheap Indoor TV
>> antenna ... would this work with Digital tv? i can currently pick up
>> all stations fairly well. Im in Stanmore, sydney.
>>
>> Has anyone tried this? What about a $50+ powered Internal Antenna from
>> Dick smith/tandy etc would these be fine?
>>
>> Im currently looking at getting a HD PCTV tuner card (Fusion)
>
> A friend is using a rabbit ears type antenna with his portable digital TV
> set. It is fine.
>
Fix the socket ??

--
Cheers .......... Rheilly P

Ext User(NickC)
20-12-2006, 11:13 PM
rob1000 wrote on 20 Dec 2006:

>
> i might give the "Indoor Outdoor Digital TV Antenna" a try first.
> Its available from dick smith for $~65 'L4074'

Don't bother. Get the $14 rabbit ears first. The man at Dick Smith
explained it all to me when I had a similar question as you.

The 'digital' part of the antenna description just means it has a
built-in amplifier, it doesn't mean it is 'tuned' for digital (there's
no such thing for indoor antennas). If you don't get good reception
with the cheapy, then maybe check out an amplified antenna (the L4016
seems to get recommended by others), but $65 is a lot considering an
outdoor antenna is ~$80.

--
Nick

Ext User(grumpy@mailinator.com)
21-12-2006, 09:03 AM
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:32:30 +0900, "Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigpong.com.au> wrote:

>
> > A friend is using a rabbit ears type antenna with his portable digital TV
> > set. It is fine.
> >
> Fix the socket ??

???

Do you mean fits?

If so, it fits the socket.

Ext User(Max Haltermann)
25-12-2006, 09:43 PM
<grumpy@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:32:30 +0900, "Rheilly Phoull"
> <rheilly@bigpong.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>> > A friend is using a rabbit ears type antenna with his portable digital
>> > TV
>> > set. It is fine.
>> >
>> Fix the socket ??
>
> ???
>
> Do you mean fits?
>
> If so, it fits the socket.
>

Why doesn't someone ask the most important question:

What is the reception of analog TV from same point of
transmission like with an indoor antenna?

If this is snow-free then he has a good chance with digital as well.

Max.

Ext User(Little Red Hen)
25-12-2006, 11:43 PM
"Max Haltermann" <maxhalt@hugonet.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> <grumpy@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:ks6jo25n6e9403jg6g4qdl23euuo4p9aiv@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:32:30 +0900, "Rheilly Phoull"
>> <rheilly@bigpong.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > A friend is using a rabbit ears type antenna with his portable digital
>>> > TV
>>> > set. It is fine.
>>> >
>>> Fix the socket ??
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Do you mean fits?
>>
>> If so, it fits the socket.
>>
>
> Why doesn't someone ask the most important question:
>
> What is the reception of analog TV from same point of
> transmission like with an indoor antenna?
>
> If this is snow-free then he has a good chance with digital as well.
>
> Max.


That is the normal logical response, however I have a friend who lives
directly in the shadow of a shopping centre. The top of the chimney is about
1st floor level of the shopping centre that goes up another 3 stories. No
view, house is in permanent shadow at the front and absolutely no analog
reception.

Installed a Fracarro digital antenna and pointed 90 degrees away from the
correct direction and voila! good digital TV reception via a reflection from
a block of flats 300 metres away. Big problems if that building is ever
demolished!!! My advice is to experiment and think outside the box you just
may find a viable solution.

rob1000
26-12-2006, 10:07 AM
thanks for all the responses guys

The reception is quite good even with the current indoor antenna, which is why i considered digital via the rabbit ears at all... i'll be purchasing a fusion card soon after new years so will test it out soon... if needed i'll buy the Fracarro and hide amongst the herbs on my bancony ;)

Ext User(grumpy@mailinator.com)
26-12-2006, 12:03 PM
On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 18:39:25 +1100, "Max Haltermann" <maxhalt@hugonet.com.au> wrote:

> >> Fix the socket ??
> >
> > ???
> >
> > Do you mean fits?
> >
> > If so, it fits the socket.
> >
>
> Why doesn't someone ask the most important question:
>
> What is the reception of analog TV from same point of
> transmission like with an indoor antenna?
>
> If this is snow-free then he has a good chance with digital as well.

Analog is only fair reception for my friend.

In my case, I have an external antenna here. Analogue reception is crap on 2 and 7. With digital,
I get perfect reception on all channels.

Ext User(jjcoolaus@yahoo.com.au)
27-12-2006, 08:33 PM
Little Red Hen wrote:
> "rob1000" <rob1000.2j3nlw@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
> news:rob1000.2j3nlw@no-mx.phorums.com.au...
> >
> > Little Red Hen Wrote:
> >> "rob1000" <rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
> >> news:rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au...
> >> >
> >> > I'm living in a Unit and the wall socket apparently connected to the
> >> > Roof mounted Antenna is broken. I've currently got a cheap Indoor TV
> >> > antenna ... would this work with Digital tv? i can currently pick up
> >> > all stations fairly well. Im in Stanmore, sydney.
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone tried this? What about a $50+ powered Internal Antenna
> >> from
> >> > Dick smith/tandy etc would these be fine?
> >> >
> >> > Im currently looking at getting a HD PCTV tuner card (Fusion)
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any advice
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > rob1000
> >>
> >> It may work if the signal strength AND quality are okay - also try to
> >> get a
> >> high pass filter to knock out reception below ch 7 digital (ch 6
> >> analog) as
> >> there aren't any stations below this and that's the area where a lot of
> >> electrical impulse noise comes in. Pixilation and sound dropouts etc..
> >> BTW the I have the card and it works very well although I only live a
> >> few
> >> K's from you I use an external Fracarro digital antenna (which is small
> >> enough to have on a balcony)
> >
> > hmm i'll think about the fracarro... after doing a search on the
> > antenna i found several other threads discussing its use... The only
> > problem is having yet MORE cables running around my apartment ;)
> >
> > i might give the "Indoor Outdoor Digital TV Antenna" a try first. Its
> > available from dick smith for $~65 'L4074'
> > (http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.filereader?43f4217d088393da273fc0a87f9c074f+EN/catalogs/CTG0001112).
> >
> >
> > When i get the new Fusion TV Card i'll let you's know how i go
> >
> >
> > --
> > rob1000
>
> The Fracarro cost me $38

Got a link for this? Preferrably a page with a picture & tech specs of
the anteanna. Or a model number? Or simply telling us where you got it
from would be a help.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
Cheers,
Jason

Ext User(Little Red Hen)
27-12-2006, 09:53 PM
<jjcoolaus@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Little Red Hen wrote:
>> "rob1000" <rob1000.2j3nlw@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:rob1000.2j3nlw@no-mx.phorums.com.au...
>> >
>> > Little Red Hen Wrote:
>> >> "rob1000" <rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
>> >> news:rob1000.2j3lab@no-mx.phorums.com.au...
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm living in a Unit and the wall socket apparently connected to the
>> >> > Roof mounted Antenna is broken. I've currently got a cheap Indoor TV
>> >> > antenna ... would this work with Digital tv? i can currently pick up
>> >> > all stations fairly well. Im in Stanmore, sydney.
>> >> >
>> >> > Has anyone tried this? What about a $50+ powered Internal Antenna
>> >> from
>> >> > Dick smith/tandy etc would these be fine?
>> >> >
>> >> > Im currently looking at getting a HD PCTV tuner card (Fusion)
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for any advice
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > rob1000
>> >>
>> >> It may work if the signal strength AND quality are okay - also try to
>> >> get a
>> >> high pass filter to knock out reception below ch 7 digital (ch 6
>> >> analog) as
>> >> there aren't any stations below this and that's the area where a lot
>> >> of
>> >> electrical impulse noise comes in. Pixilation and sound dropouts etc..
>> >> BTW the I have the card and it works very well although I only live a
>> >> few
>> >> K's from you I use an external Fracarro digital antenna (which is
>> >> small
>> >> enough to have on a balcony)
>> >
>> > hmm i'll think about the fracarro... after doing a search on the
>> > antenna i found several other threads discussing its use... The only
>> > problem is having yet MORE cables running around my apartment ;)
>> >
>> > i might give the "Indoor Outdoor Digital TV Antenna" a try first. Its
>> > available from dick smith for $~65 'L4074'
>> > (http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.filereader?43f4217d088393da273fc0a87f9c074f+EN/catalogs/CTG0001112).
>> >
>> >
>> > When i get the new Fusion TV Card i'll let you's know how i go
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > rob1000
>>
>> The Fracarro cost me $38
>
> Got a link for this? Preferrably a page with a picture & tech specs of
> the anteanna. Or a model number? Or simply telling us where you got it
> from would be a help.
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
> Cheers,
> Jason
>



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Supe
01-01-2007, 06:15 PM
Those Dick Smith ones, the grey plastic ones that are sold as "digital only" indoor tv antennas work well. They require power to run but work great in medium reception areas.

Ext User(Emjaye)
01-01-2007, 08:13 PM
Little said....

> building is ever demolished!!! My advice is to experiment and think
> outside the box you just may find a viable solution.

How's the standard practice of turning the antenna until the signal's at
its best "thinking outside of the box"?

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