Jump start open circuit battery with jump start unit

[Ext User(RMD)]

Hi All,

Most of my car batteries in recent times have quite suddenly failed
open circuit, which is a bit of a nuisance. Particularly since it
seems to be hard these days to get people to volunteeer their car and
battery to use a set of jump-start leads to get going again.

Prior to that my batteries would usually die by inches, with slower
and slower cranking, giving plenty of warning the battery might be
due for replacement.

How do those el-cheapo jump starters with the gel pack slealed lead
acid batteries go starting a car with an open circuit battery?

Anyone recently jump-started a car with an open circuit battery with
one of these SLA battery jump start units?

I'd be interested to hear how it went.


Ross
(To get email address ROT 13)
ebff_qnyl@lnubb.pbz

[Ext User(Scotty)]

"RMD" <ebff_qnyl@lnubb.pbz> wrote in message
news:458c9ee5.5386601@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Hi All,
>
> Most of my car batteries in recent times have quite suddenly failed
> open circuit, which is a bit of a nuisance. Particularly since it
> seems to be hard these days to get people to volunteeer their car and
> battery to use a set of jump-start leads to get going again.
>
> Prior to that my batteries would usually die by inches, with slower
> and slower cranking, giving plenty of warning the battery might be
> due for replacement.
>
> How do those el-cheapo jump starters with the gel pack slealed lead
> acid batteries go starting a car with an open circuit battery?
>
> Anyone recently jump-started a car with an open circuit battery with
> one of these SLA battery jump start units?
>
> I'd be interested to hear how it went.
>
>
> Ross
> (To get email address ROT 13)
> ebff_qnyl@lnubb.pbz

Ive never had an issue with using a SLAB at jump with. I jump it and leave
the SLAB connected for two min then turn the car offf and disconnect the
battery theres ussualy enough to start a warm motor with two min charge in
it.

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:32:08 +1000, "Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com>
scribbled thusly:

>
>"RMD" <ebff_qnyl@lnubb.pbz> wrote in message
>news:458c9ee5.5386601@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Most of my car batteries in recent times have quite suddenly failed
>> open circuit, which is a bit of a nuisance. Particularly since it
>> seems to be hard these days to get people to volunteeer their car and
>> battery to use a set of jump-start leads to get going again.
>>
>> Prior to that my batteries would usually die by inches, with slower
>> and slower cranking, giving plenty of warning the battery might be
>> due for replacement.
>>
>> How do those el-cheapo jump starters with the gel pack slealed lead
>> acid batteries go starting a car with an open circuit battery?
>>
>> Anyone recently jump-started a car with an open circuit battery with
>> one of these SLA battery jump start units?
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear how it went.
>>
>>
>> Ross
>> (To get email address ROT 13)
>> ebff_qnyl@lnubb.pbz
>
>Ive never had an issue with using a SLAB at jump with. I jump it and leave
>the SLAB connected for two min then turn the car offf and disconnect the
>battery theres ussualy enough to start a warm motor with two min charge in
>it.
>

An open circuit battery?
Not bloody likely!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(John Hudson)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:q4fpo211nplbubmtbfkifit580ecrk7jmh@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:32:08 +1000, "Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com>
> An open circuit battery?
> Not bloody likely!
>
>

Happens all the time, the connections between the cells are piss weak
crimped joints and they fail without warning.
huddo

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 07:35:32 GMT, "John Hudson" <huddo@bigpond.net.au>
scribbled thusly:

>
><OzOne> wrote in message news:q4fpo211nplbubmtbfkifit580ecrk7jmh@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:32:08 +1000, "Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com>
>> An open circuit battery?
>> Not bloody likely!
>>
>>
>
>Happens all the time, the connections between the cells are piss weak
>crimped joints and they fail without warning.
>huddo
>

Yeah, I was commenting on charging for a few minutes than having
enough to start with an open circuit battery.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

[Ext User(Scotty)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:cjmpo2l03ulinej3nuuup1q9a9fbdoph19@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 07:35:32 GMT, "John Hudson" <huddo@bigpond.net.au>
> scribbled thusly:
>
>>
>><OzOne> wrote in message
>>news:q4fpo211nplbubmtbfkifit580ecrk7jmh@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:32:08 +1000, "Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com>
>>> An open circuit battery?
>>> Not bloody likely!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Happens all the time, the connections between the cells are piss weak
>>crimped joints and they fail without warning.
>>huddo
>>
>
> Yeah, I was commenting on charging for a few minutes than having
> enough to start with an open circuit battery.
>


Fair call if its a pure open circuit but Ive rarely seen a fully open
circuited battery. Plenty of collapsed cells or even shorted cells but
rarely open circuited.

And yes, take a very flat battery and jump start the car. Run it for two
mins and then remove your jumper battery, if the cars in good tune 90% of
the time you should be able to start it back up with a small charge in the
battery. Ive done it every time I need to jump start a car as its the
safest way to do it Ive been told. No possibility of spikes that way
apparently, and its the spikes that fry the modules.

If you have had purely open circuit batteries Id say that they are of very
poor quality and construction.

[Ext User(John Hudson)]

<OzOne> wrote in message news:cjmpo2l03ulinej3nuuup1q9a9fbdoph19@4ax.com...
> Yeah, I was commenting on charging for a few minutes than having
> enough to start with an open circuit battery.
>
>
> Oz1...of the 3 twins.


I see what you mean now. This happened to me once, called RACQ, jump started
ok. Went straight to battery joint, battery tested ok. "Nothing wrong with
it" they said. Drove a coupla k's down the road and I turned engine off,
wouldn't restart. With a bad connection, anything can happen.
huddo

[Ext User(Kev)]

RMD wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Most of my car batteries in recent times have quite suddenly failed
> open circuit, which is a bit of a nuisance. Particularly since it
> seems to be hard these days to get people to volunteeer their car and
> battery to use a set of jump-start leads to get going again.
>
> Prior to that my batteries would usually die by inches, with slower
> and slower cranking, giving plenty of warning the battery might be
> due for replacement.
>
> How do those el-cheapo jump starters with the gel pack slealed lead
> acid batteries go starting a car with an open circuit battery?
>
> Anyone recently jump-started a car with an open circuit battery with
> one of these SLA battery jump start units?
>
> I'd be interested to hear how it went.


Try paying more than $39 for a battery
I get many years out of mine and never had one drop suddenly
but I pay around $120 for a car battery and $180 for a 4X4 battery

Kev

[Ext User(Scotty)]

"Kev" <kevcat@optunet.com.au> wrote in message
news:458e5f29$0$5747$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> RMD wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Most of my car batteries in recent times have quite suddenly failed
>> open circuit, which is a bit of a nuisance. Particularly since it
>> seems to be hard these days to get people to volunteeer their car and
>> battery to use a set of jump-start leads to get going again. Prior to
>> that my batteries would usually die by inches, with slower
>> and slower cranking, giving plenty of warning the battery might be
>> due for replacement.
>>
>> How do those el-cheapo jump starters with the gel pack slealed lead
>> acid batteries go starting a car with an open circuit battery?
>>
>> Anyone recently jump-started a car with an open circuit battery with
>> one of these SLA battery jump start units?
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear how it went.
>
>
> Try paying more than $39 for a battery
> I get many years out of mine and never had one drop suddenly
> but I pay around $120 for a car battery and $180 for a 4X4 battery
>
> Kev

Ya tight bastard! Why arent you running with an Optima?

What do you mean $400 is too much for a battery.


:O)

[Ext User(Kev)]

Scotty wrote:

> "Kev" <kevcat@optunet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:458e5f29$0$5747$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>
>>RMD wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>Most of my car batteries in recent times have quite suddenly failed
>>>open circuit, which is a bit of a nuisance. Particularly since it
>>>seems to be hard these days to get people to volunteeer their car and
>>>battery to use a set of jump-start leads to get going again. Prior to
>>>that my batteries would usually die by inches, with slower
>>>and slower cranking, giving plenty of warning the battery might be
>>>due for replacement.
>>>
>>>How do those el-cheapo jump starters with the gel pack slealed lead
>>>acid batteries go starting a car with an open circuit battery?
>>>
>>>Anyone recently jump-started a car with an open circuit battery with
>>>one of these SLA battery jump start units?
>>>
>>>I'd be interested to hear how it went.
>>
>>
>>Try paying more than $39 for a battery
>>I get many years out of mine and never had one drop suddenly
>>but I pay around $120 for a car battery and $180 for a 4X4 battery
>>
>>Kev
>
>
> Ya tight bastard! Why arent you running with an Optima?
>
> What do you mean $400 is too much for a battery.
>
>
> :O)
>
>


well lets not go overboard
maybe when I get a new boat
that would be worth it


Kev

[Ext User(RMD)]

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 03:32:52 GMT, ebff_qnyl@lnubb.pbz (RMD) wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Most of my car batteries in recent times have quite suddenly failed
>open circuit, which is a bit of a nuisance. Particularly since it
>seems to be hard these days to get people to volunteeer their car and
>battery to use a set of jump-start leads to get going again.
>
>Prior to that my batteries would usually die by inches, with slower
>and slower cranking, giving plenty of warning the battery might be
>due for replacement.
>
>How do those el-cheapo jump starters with the gel pack slealed lead
>acid batteries go starting a car with an open circuit battery?
>
>Anyone recently jump-started a car with an open circuit battery with
>one of these SLA battery jump start units?
>
>I'd be interested to hear how it went.
>
>
>Ross
>(To get email address ROT 13)
>ebff_qnyl@lnubb.pbz

Thanks for all the completely irrelevant responses and totally dumb
advice.

Are you guys naturally dickheads or did you go to school to find out
how to be dickheads as well?

I enquired elsewhere (where there was actually some intelligence
available) and found the gell type batteries in these starter-packs
will easily start an engine un-aided, or at least while still fairly
new.

No doubt if I can find one to buy that costs $10,000 per copy it will
start cars unaided when it is very old too......

Ross



(To get email address ROT 13)
ebff_qnyl@lnubb.pbz

[Ext User(Kev)]

>
> Thanks for all the completely irrelevant responses and totally dumb
> advice.
>
> Are you guys naturally dickheads or did you go to school to find out
> how to be dickheads as well?
>
> I enquired elsewhere (where there was actually some intelligence
> available) and found the gell type batteries in these starter-packs
> will easily start an engine un-aided, or at least while still fairly
> new.
>
> No doubt if I can find one to buy that costs $10,000 per copy it will
> start cars unaided when it is very old too......
>
> Ross

well if ya bought a proper battery in the first place you wouldn't need
the extra expense of a starter pack in the first place

and yes some of us are natural dickheads, so what's your point


Kev

[Ext User(googlegroups@sensation.net.au)]

RMD wrote:
> Thanks for all the completely irrelevant responses and totally dumb
> advice.
>
> Are you guys naturally dickheads or did you go to school to find out
> how to be dickheads as well?
>
> I enquired elsewhere (where there was actually some intelligence
> available)[...]

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