Charger.

[Ext User(bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid)]

Alright all you experts in here.
I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
owner with all the paperwork etc.
What do you think it might be worth?
Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.
I haven't looked at it yet.

Bob

[Ext User(bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid)]

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:49:11 +1000, atec77 <"atec77 "@hotmail.com>,
after considering some belly-button fluf, wrote:

>bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid wrote:
>> Alright all you experts in here.
>> I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
>> The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
>> owner with all the paperwork etc.
>> What do you think it might be worth?
>> Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.
>> I haven't looked at it yet.
>>
>> Bob
>Does it start and drive ?
Yes.
It has been started every month since being off the road.
> general condition and more information
> where is it :)

My little secret.
I know you like the Chargers Atec , but I have had an eye on this car
for ages.

Bob.

[Ext User(The Raven)]

<bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
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> Alright all you experts in here.
> I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
> The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
> owner with all the paperwork etc.
> What do you think it might be worth?
> Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.
> I haven't looked at it yet.
>

Ignore any of the "book" prices as they usually are put together by people
with little understanding of the collectors market. I recall a rare Ducati
model being listed as $8000 when they were selling in the collectors market
for more than twice that. Sure, condition is an issue but I'd suspect you'd
best start by checking with Charger club or Shannons auction lists.


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The Raven
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[Ext User(Jason James)]

<bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
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> Alright all you experts in here.
> I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
> The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
> owner with all the paperwork etc.
> What do you think it might be worth?
> Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.
> I haven't looked at it yet.
>
> Bob

Depends on the condition, but if its in "normal" condition and bearing in
mind they were pretty rare and the 340 was supposed to be Chrysler's hot V8
for Oz anyway,..I'd pay up to 9k. If its in mint condition and its manual,
Id go to 12k,..but I was a Chysler lover.

Jason

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

<bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
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> Alright all you experts in here.
> I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
> The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
> owner with all the paperwork etc.
> What do you think it might be worth?
> Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.
> I haven't looked at it yet.

Depends if it is a rusty heap of shit. Chargers are starting to get better
prices but they still aren't in the Falcon or Monaro ranges. The VH Chargers
are worth the most money. I got $13,000 for my VH with a 245 Hemi and an Auto.
It was just about perfect body and interior wise.

Fraser

[Ext User(Rod)]

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:33:24 +0900, "Fraser Johnston"
<fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote:

>The VH Chargers
>are worth the most money. I got $13,000 for my VH with a 245 Hemi and an Auto.

....and so they should. IMO nothing beats the look of an E49 among cars
of that era.

Cheers,
Rod.

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

"Rod" <rodp@hotmail.com.removeme> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:33:24 +0900, "Fraser Johnston"
> <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote:
>
>>The VH Chargers
>>are worth the most money. I got $13,000 for my VH with a 245 Hemi and an
>>Auto.
>
> ...and so they should. IMO nothing beats the look of an E49 among cars
> of that era.

Yeah. I love the way they look. But after driving a new WRX all day the
Charger really felt like a slug.

Fraser

[Ext User(John_H)]

bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid wrote:
>
>I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
>The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
>owner with all the paperwork etc.
>What do you think it might be worth?

25 - 35k if it's straight, original and rust free. Last genuine E55 I
had anything to do with sold for $18k around 4 years ago.

>Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.

Sounds about right for one in fair condition, including rust and bog.

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John H

[Ext User(Noddy)]

<bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
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> Alright all you experts in here.
> I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
> The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
> owner with all the paperwork etc.
> What do you think it might be worth?
> Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.
> I haven't looked at it yet.

Check to make sure it's a 340, as very few of them were ever made. 318's and
360's were *far* more common (and less valuable) in Australia.

If the car's in good nick, original and is indeed a genuine E55 my guess
would be a minimum 10 large given the stupid values some things have been
selling for at Shannons.

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Scotty)]

"John McKenzie" <jmac@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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> bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid wrote:
>>
>> Alright all you experts in here.
>> I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
>> The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
>> owner with all the paperwork etc.
>> What do you think it might be worth?
>> Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.
>
> if it's in serious need of resto, that may be right. If it's in really
> good nick, probably double or more.
>
> It's very hard to say with them. Location can be a big deal, though it
> seems people _have_ gotten to the stage where looking interstate isn't
> considered unusual any more with the chargers.
>
>
> --
> John McKenzie
>

It rarely comes down to finance these days with money readily available to
most people with employment. It comes down to time, do you have enough
spare? If not then if its in need of restoration do you have the money for
someone else to do it?

The car may be worth $2k if its in need of a FULL restoration but if little
is required IMO $20K+ is no biggie for one of them.

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

"John McKenzie" <jmac@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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> bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid wrote:
>>
>> Alright all you experts in here.
>> I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
>> The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
>> owner with all the paperwork etc.
>> What do you think it might be worth?
>> Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.
>
> if it's in serious need of resto, that may be right. If it's in really
> good nick, probably double or more.
>
> It's very hard to say with them. Location can be a big deal, though it
> seems people _have_ gotten to the stage where looking interstate isn't
> considered unusual any more with the chargers.

Yep. I live in Perth and bought mine in Melbourne.

Fraser

[Ext User(Marco)]

atec77 wrote:

> Nah don't give a shiite , I have an ok condition blue pacer tucked
> away for a restoration one day in the work shed , now if the wife would
> just not ask whats under there :(
>
>
> 5 cars and 3 bikes she doesn't know about :) ( yet)

Bloody hell, how many cars do you have (and what are they?)

Marco

[Ext User(bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid)]

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 06:02:42 GMT, "Noddy"
<dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au>, after considering some belly-button
fluf, wrote:

>
><bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
>news:1ec8q2tqoojqg0ko1nrgnqbq8cmdis1u60@4ax.com...
>> Alright all you experts in here.
>> I have been offered a VJ Charger E55. Yes the 340 version.
>> The car has been off the road for the last fifteen years and is a one
>> owner with all the paperwork etc.
>> What do you think it might be worth?
>> Red Book reckon from $6800-$10,600.
>> I haven't looked at it yet.
>
>Check to make sure it's a 340, as very few of them were ever made. 318's and
>360's were *far* more common (and less valuable) in Australia.

Don't worry Nod I do know all the codes etc.
360 's common?
As far as I am aware the only 360 Chargers that were made were for the
NSW HWP. K13 pack I believe. I used to own one.
>
>If the car's in good nick, original and is indeed a genuine E55 my guess
>would be a minimum 10 large given the stupid values some things have been
>selling for at Shannons.

This is what I am not sure of. When Phase 3 HO's sell for 150,K + its
hard to work out prices on cars that were once worth shit.
Look at HK-HG Monaros. Stupid money thesedays.
Bob

[Ext User(Noddy)]

<bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
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> Don't worry Nod I do know all the codes etc.

Cool.

> 360 's common?
> As far as I am aware the only 360 Chargers that were made were for the
> NSW HWP. K13 pack I believe. I used to own one.

As far as Chrsyler engines go, the 360 is far more common here than the 340,
and by a very long way. Not that there were a lot of 360 Chargers built, but
there's a lot around these days.

> This is what I am not sure of. When Phase 3 HO's sell for 150,K + its
> hard to work out prices on cars that were once worth shit.
> Look at HK-HG Monaros. Stupid money thesedays.

Tell me about it.

I passed on a pair of HK's around three years ago as I didn't have the time
for them. One was a genuine 327 Bathurst and the other a 307 GTS. They both
needed complete restorations, but were complete original cars and I could
have had the pair for five grand.

Oh well, I sold my XW GTHO for 2800 bucks years ago, and thought that was a
decent price.

Who knew? :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Jason James)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> <bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
> news:6pqaq2lh77r6mmvqc0p9i7j6rcc8o08paf@4ax.com...
>
> > Don't worry Nod I do know all the codes etc.
>
> Cool.
>
> > 360 's common?
> > As far as I am aware the only 360 Chargers that were made were for the
> > NSW HWP. K13 pack I believe. I used to own one.
>
> As far as Chrsyler engines go, the 360 is far more common here than the
340,
> and by a very long way. Not that there were a lot of 360 Chargers built,
but
> there's a lot around these days.
>
> > This is what I am not sure of. When Phase 3 HO's sell for 150,K + its
> > hard to work out prices on cars that were once worth shit.
> > Look at HK-HG Monaros. Stupid money thesedays.
>
> Tell me about it.
>
> I passed on a pair of HK's around three years ago as I didn't have the
time
> for them. One was a genuine 327 Bathurst and the other a 307 GTS. They
both
> needed complete restorations, but were complete original cars and I could
> have had the pair for five grand.
>
> Oh well, I sold my XW GTHO for 2800 bucks years ago, and thought that was
a
> decent price.
>
> Who knew? :)

I remember when you couldn't give away Valiants, even the hardtops, then
around the end of the 80s, it became "cool" to own old Chryslers amongst
youngsters, especially the pre-tank body models. VFs and VCs in particular.
I sold my VF 770, padded vinyl roof V8 for $400 in 1979. eAnd that was lucky
as even the wreckers didnt want it.

Jason

[Ext User(bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid)]

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:27:37 GMT, "Noddy"
<dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au>, after considering some belly-button
fluf, wrote:

>
><bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>> Don't worry Nod I do know all the codes etc.
>
>Cool.
>
>> 360 's common?
>> As far as I am aware the only 360 Chargers that were made were for the
>> NSW HWP. K13 pack I believe. I used to own one.
>
>As far as Chrsyler engines go, the 360 is far more common here than the 340,
>and by a very long way. Not that there were a lot of 360 Chargers built, but
>there's a lot around these days.

I did mean original factory 360's.

Like the 10,000 or so XY GT Falcon/500/Fairmont/Futura's that are
around now.
>
>> This is what I am not sure of. When Phase 3 HO's sell for 150,K + its
>> hard to work out prices on cars that were once worth shit.
>> Look at HK-HG Monaros. Stupid money thesedays.
>
>Tell me about it.
>
>I passed on a pair of HK's around three years ago as I didn't have the time
>for them. One was a genuine 327 Bathurst and the other a 307 GTS. They both
>needed complete restorations, but were complete original cars and I could
>have had the pair for five grand.
>
I just cannot understand what the appeal is for a HK-HG. These cars
drove like pigs and handled like a barge.

>Oh well, I sold my XW GTHO for 2800 bucks years ago, and thought that was a
>decent price.
>
>Who knew? :)
Obviously not you. :-)

Bob

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<bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
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> I just cannot understand what the appeal is for a HK-HG. These cars
> drove like pigs and handled like a barge.

Just about anything of the era did if is wasn't European.

The Monaro never appealed to me personally, but in retrospect it's quite a
car compared to the characterless plastic shit around today. I'd also add
that there's a lot of fun to be had in a car that makes buckets of torque
and handles like shit with ice skate wheels.

Taught a *lot* of people of my generation exactly what and what not to do :)

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Andy)]

Noddy wrote:
> <bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid> wrote in message
> news:6pqaq2lh77r6mmvqc0p9i7j6rcc8o08paf@4ax.com...
>
>> Don't worry Nod I do know all the codes etc.
>
> Cool.
>
>> 360 's common?
>> As far as I am aware the only 360 Chargers that were made were for the
>> NSW HWP. K13 pack I believe. I used to own one.
>
> As far as Chrsyler engines go, the 360 is far more common here than the 340,
> and by a very long way. Not that there were a lot of 360 Chargers built, but
> there's a lot around these days.
>
>> This is what I am not sure of. When Phase 3 HO's sell for 150,K + its
>> hard to work out prices on cars that were once worth shit.
>> Look at HK-HG Monaros. Stupid money thesedays.
>
> Tell me about it.
>
> I passed on a pair of HK's around three years ago as I didn't have the time
> for them. One was a genuine 327 Bathurst and the other a 307 GTS. They both
> needed complete restorations, but were complete original cars and I could
> have had the pair for five grand.


Yep, I passed on a near mint HT Monaro for $5K a few years back.

Cheers,

Andy. (t'other Andy.)

[Ext User(Athol)]

bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid wrote:

> I just cannot understand what the appeal is for a HK-HG. These cars
> drove like pigs and handled like a barge.

Indeed they did. I stiffened mine up with large swaybars front and rear,
heavier monaro height front springs and lowered the rear by replacing the
shortest curved leaf with an additional flat leaf. Handled well on the
freeway and open highway, surprisingly well on sweeping curves but was an
absolute pig on tight corners.

I tore a swaybar mount out of one subframe.

Before scrapping it due to a stuffed bodyshell, I seriously considered
transplanting in Jaguar suspension front and rear. I also vaguely
considered a Jag front and a top A-arm in the leaf-sprung rear to improve
lateral location (easier than transplanting the Jag IRS).

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I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

[Ext User(bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid)]

On 11 Jan 2007 06:45:06 GMT, Athol <me@privacy.net>, after considering
some belly-button fluf, wrote:

>bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid wrote:
>
>> I just cannot understand what the appeal is for a HK-HG. These cars
>> drove like pigs and handled like a barge.
>
>Indeed they did. I stiffened mine up with large swaybars front and rear,
>heavier monaro height front springs and lowered the rear by replacing the
>shortest curved leaf with an additional flat leaf. Handled well on the
>freeway and open highway, surprisingly well on sweeping curves but was an
>absolute pig on tight corners.

I owned a HK Prem Wagon in the early 80's.
It was Magnecor's first company car.
It was a 307 with a/c power steer/windows and tailgate window.
All the suspension had already been done.
The front sway bar was huge and the springs shocks etc had all been
done. A rear sway bar had also been fitted.
Good on straight freeway type roads but the handling even after all
the suspension mods was average.

I wonder if this car still exists today?
It might be worth something seeing it had all the factory options.

Bob