Ext User(reg-john)
28-01-2007, 05:23 PM
"Roger" <rmar5000@bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
news:MbCuh.265$x8.197@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Gotta love those TV drivel shows on at 6.30 weekdays.
>
> This week's best hypocritical story had to be the one about
> the "fuel price scandal".
>
> There we have Channel Nein telling us - no preaching to us
> that the oil companies are all naughty because they make a quid
> when they can. The twats at Nein dont even realise that they do
> the same for advertising rates - try buying a TV slot on Tuesday
> afternoon - dirt cheap usually. Try buying a TV slot on Tuesday
> afternoon whilst the Ashes was on - that makes 10 cents a litre
> on fuel look like a drop in the ocean. Price gouging or just the
> supply and demand cycle working for the TV stations? Why
> dont plumbers just charge the same rate 24 hours a day?
> Because if we have a leaking pipe at 2 am on Sunday morning
> and its dripping all over the stolen Rembrandts we'll pay whatever
> the plumber asks. Price gouging??
>
> For the last fucking time "retail petrol prices are governed by supply
> and demand". Surprisingly the supply and demand cycle is the same
> for each oil company because the demand is greatest for petrol from
> Friday to Sunday. The service stations will only order petrol when
> they can empty their tanks by selling it, they dont order it on Monday
> knowing it will sit in their tanks until the weekend because they have to
> pay for it when it arrives. There's no credit and 90 days to pay when
> you buy petrol in bulk.
>
> The oil companies try to smooth out the demand from the petrol stations
> by reducing the price of fuel on Monday to Thursday and keeping the
> number of $450,000 fuel tankers to a minimum.
what exactly do you mean here? fuel and gas is a 24/7 delivery service in
major cities and in most country towns.
If the petrol stations
> could have their way they'd only buy fuel on Friday afternoon and
> delivered at 2.30pm so that its available for the afternoon fill up.
>
> Why does petrol in the country areas cost more? - 'cos they have to pay
> for it to be delivered often by small poxy little trucks that cost more to
> operate than B doubles or road trains. The fuel often gets handled three
> times before getting to the small country petrol stations. 1 out of the
> refinery and out to a country distributor 2. into the distibutor's tanks.
> 3. into poxy little truck for delivery of 5000 litres ULP and 500 of lead
> replacement. Who pays - the end user. Who wins on all the triple
> handling, the distributor and all his employee/family members.
youd be talking about independent servos then, all the majors
(bp/mobil/caltex/shell/united) have their fuel delivered direct from the
refinery (or a pipeline depot ala silverwater/banksmeadow in sydney)
straight to the servo in the country. it costs more becuase of the kms and
time taken by the truck. as an example a cootes driver in sydney will
regularly do 4 full loads into servos in a 12 hour shift locally, but only
one and sometimes over two days a load out to the bush. so the price is
reflected by a several cents increase to cover operating expenses.
the distributor in the case of fuel in sydney makes 3/10ths of fuck all
these days, the govt makes the most profit out of anyone by a long margin. I
work for Cootes carting LPG and having seen the margins we get to play with,
if a driver added half an hour onto his shift time that would be enough to
remove any margin for that days work per driver. so about 15 bucks per
driver logically is their margin, you cant exactly say theyre raking in the
cash. (bearing in mind LPG is more profitable than fuel also, and you can
see how narrow it is)
news:MbCuh.265$x8.197@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Gotta love those TV drivel shows on at 6.30 weekdays.
>
> This week's best hypocritical story had to be the one about
> the "fuel price scandal".
>
> There we have Channel Nein telling us - no preaching to us
> that the oil companies are all naughty because they make a quid
> when they can. The twats at Nein dont even realise that they do
> the same for advertising rates - try buying a TV slot on Tuesday
> afternoon - dirt cheap usually. Try buying a TV slot on Tuesday
> afternoon whilst the Ashes was on - that makes 10 cents a litre
> on fuel look like a drop in the ocean. Price gouging or just the
> supply and demand cycle working for the TV stations? Why
> dont plumbers just charge the same rate 24 hours a day?
> Because if we have a leaking pipe at 2 am on Sunday morning
> and its dripping all over the stolen Rembrandts we'll pay whatever
> the plumber asks. Price gouging??
>
> For the last fucking time "retail petrol prices are governed by supply
> and demand". Surprisingly the supply and demand cycle is the same
> for each oil company because the demand is greatest for petrol from
> Friday to Sunday. The service stations will only order petrol when
> they can empty their tanks by selling it, they dont order it on Monday
> knowing it will sit in their tanks until the weekend because they have to
> pay for it when it arrives. There's no credit and 90 days to pay when
> you buy petrol in bulk.
>
> The oil companies try to smooth out the demand from the petrol stations
> by reducing the price of fuel on Monday to Thursday and keeping the
> number of $450,000 fuel tankers to a minimum.
what exactly do you mean here? fuel and gas is a 24/7 delivery service in
major cities and in most country towns.
If the petrol stations
> could have their way they'd only buy fuel on Friday afternoon and
> delivered at 2.30pm so that its available for the afternoon fill up.
>
> Why does petrol in the country areas cost more? - 'cos they have to pay
> for it to be delivered often by small poxy little trucks that cost more to
> operate than B doubles or road trains. The fuel often gets handled three
> times before getting to the small country petrol stations. 1 out of the
> refinery and out to a country distributor 2. into the distibutor's tanks.
> 3. into poxy little truck for delivery of 5000 litres ULP and 500 of lead
> replacement. Who pays - the end user. Who wins on all the triple
> handling, the distributor and all his employee/family members.
youd be talking about independent servos then, all the majors
(bp/mobil/caltex/shell/united) have their fuel delivered direct from the
refinery (or a pipeline depot ala silverwater/banksmeadow in sydney)
straight to the servo in the country. it costs more becuase of the kms and
time taken by the truck. as an example a cootes driver in sydney will
regularly do 4 full loads into servos in a 12 hour shift locally, but only
one and sometimes over two days a load out to the bush. so the price is
reflected by a several cents increase to cover operating expenses.
the distributor in the case of fuel in sydney makes 3/10ths of fuck all
these days, the govt makes the most profit out of anyone by a long margin. I
work for Cootes carting LPG and having seen the margins we get to play with,
if a driver added half an hour onto his shift time that would be enough to
remove any margin for that days work per driver. so about 15 bucks per
driver logically is their margin, you cant exactly say theyre raking in the
cash. (bearing in mind LPG is more profitable than fuel also, and you can
see how narrow it is)