OT: Computer cooling

[Ext User(Noddy)]

Anyone got any good ideas or links to effective computer cooling?

My "office" is in a sectioned off area of my garage. It's a roughly 20' x
10' room with insulated walls & ceiling, a door and a single window looking
out into the rest of the garage. In it is a couple of desks & chairs,
photocopier, fax, a couple of PC's (one on all the time), and various other
"office" crap.

The problem is that with ambient temperatures of 38 degrees in Melbourne
today, it gets to a tad over 50 degrees in the office with almost all of
that extra heat being generated by the running computer. The computer in
question has a 500w power supply, and the case gets so hot you can't touch
the thing without burning your hand.

On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless network,
but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance from the (air
conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and the signal has to go
through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on that too, but open to
suggestions if anyone has any).

Air conditioning the office would obviously help (and I plan to do that),
but I'd like to get a lot of the heat out of the computer as well.

Anyone got any ideas?

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Blue Heeler)]

Noddy wrote:

>
> On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless
> network, but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance
> from the (air conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and
> the signal has to go through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on
> that too, but open to suggestions if anyone has any).
>

There are a few tricks you can pull to improve the range/quality of
your WiFi link. If your access point has replaceable aerials, then
better ones, can help, as can a directional type yagi to spray signal
in the general direction of your shed.

I had a similar problem in that I supply an internet link to two
neighbours, one next to me and the other on the the other diagonally
across the street. I use a directional yagi pointed striaght at their
house and the bridge at their end has one pointing straight back at me
- much better signal than the close neighbiour gets from the remaining
original antenna on the Linksys box (it orignally had two antenna in
"diversity" mode which is now turned off).

A TP link access point that has a esily removable "standard" antenna
mount can be had for around $65 on special, it does have a range
extender mode so you could simply put it in the room closest to your
shed and see how you go.

As far as the desktop goes - put it on the floor with it's power supply
fan aimed directly at the wall, cut a hole in the wall and bung in a
low speed, high volume extractor - something like a engine room vent
fan from a nautical shop would work a treat and has a weatherproof out
cover - that way you just suck the heated air out.



--

[Ext User(RainbowWarrior)]

Upgrde to a more efficient computer perhaps or try a newer power supply if
they are old machines?

Or buy one of those liquid chip coolers and then run the piping to an
external electric water pump and a Falcadore radiator with thermofans :)


"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:45d8110e$0$52921$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
> Anyone got any good ideas or links to effective computer cooling?
>
> My "office" is in a sectioned off area of my garage. It's a roughly 20' x
> 10' room with insulated walls & ceiling, a door and a single window
> looking out into the rest of the garage. In it is a couple of desks &
> chairs, photocopier, fax, a couple of PC's (one on all the time), and
> various other "office" crap.
>
> The problem is that with ambient temperatures of 38 degrees in Melbourne
> today, it gets to a tad over 50 degrees in the office with almost all of
> that extra heat being generated by the running computer. The computer in
> question has a 500w power supply, and the case gets so hot you can't touch
> the thing without burning your hand.
>
> On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless network,
> but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance from the (air
> conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and the signal has to
> go through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on that too, but open to
> suggestions if anyone has any).
>
> Air conditioning the office would obviously help (and I plan to do that),
> but I'd like to get a lot of the heat out of the computer as well.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>

[Ext User(Scotty)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:45d8110e$0$52921$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
> Anyone got any good ideas or links to effective computer cooling?
>
> My "office" is in a sectioned off area of my garage. It's a roughly 20' x
> 10' room with insulated walls & ceiling, a door and a single window
> looking out into the rest of the garage. In it is a couple of desks &
> chairs, photocopier, fax, a couple of PC's (one on all the time), and
> various other "office" crap.
>
> The problem is that with ambient temperatures of 38 degrees in Melbourne
> today, it gets to a tad over 50 degrees in the office with almost all of
> that extra heat being generated by the running computer. The computer in
> question has a 500w power supply, and the case gets so hot you can't touch
> the thing without burning your hand.
>
> On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless network,
> but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance from the (air
> conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and the signal has to
> go through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on that too, but open to
> suggestions if anyone has any).
>
> Air conditioning the office would obviously help (and I plan to do that),
> but I'd like to get a lot of the heat out of the computer as well.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>

Without getting too far gone with water cooling etc, how about a small fan
set up that runs from outside (With luck the wall behind your PC isnt sun
engulfed all day) and go buy a small toilet fan to drag either hot air out
or cool air in to the back of the PC. If the PC dosent move you can duct
(supplied with loo fans, they are called MANROSE units and cost $40ish) from
the case to outside.

[Ext User(googlegroups@sensation.net.au)]

Quick fix: $20 desktop fan pointing at the PC. If you can situate it
to the side (preferably the left) then remove that side of the case so
air gets blown on the internals. I did this trick when I had a smaller
case that didn't dissipate heat very well, and I knew the day would be
a stinker.

(I presume you open the door and window once it gets hotter than
outside?)

[Ext User(Brenden Will)]

You can buy a more efficient case or suss out a way to get the air in the
room to flow. Even if the air entering is hot it sounds like it'll be cooler
than the air exiting which will keep your PC happy. You must have a
reasonable PC as quite a few don't like that much heat. You could use a
couple of $25 fans near a window to direct airflow outside.

A mate of mines AMD cpu'd PC doesn't like the weather either. He's
constantly restarting due to lockups. The warmer it gets the more he
reboots. I keep telling him more fans or go for an Intel based unit. I
always found AMD cpu's have massive power requirements. Which means lots of
heat to get rid of.

A couple of other components that cause quite a bit of heat are the hard
driver and monitor. Some monitors generate less heat than others. A way to
figure it out is to look at the power required to run it. I have CRT's here
as they refuse to die! LCD's seem to run cooler going by what I've seen at
my work.

"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:45d8110e$0$52921$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
> Anyone got any good ideas or links to effective computer cooling?
>
> My "office" is in a sectioned off area of my garage. It's a roughly 20' x
> 10' room with insulated walls & ceiling, a door and a single window
> looking out into the rest of the garage. In it is a couple of desks &
> chairs, photocopier, fax, a couple of PC's (one on all the time), and
> various other "office" crap.
>
> The problem is that with ambient temperatures of 38 degrees in Melbourne
> today, it gets to a tad over 50 degrees in the office with almost all of
> that extra heat being generated by the running computer. The computer in
> question has a 500w power supply, and the case gets so hot you can't touch
> the thing without burning your hand.
>
> On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless network,
> but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance from the (air
> conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and the signal has to
> go through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on that too, but open to
> suggestions if anyone has any).
>
> Air conditioning the office would obviously help (and I plan to do that),
> but I'd like to get a lot of the heat out of the computer as well.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>

[Ext User(googlegroups@sensation.net.au)]

On Feb 18, 8:39 pm, "Brenden Will" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> A mate of mines AMD cpu'd PC doesn't like the weather either. He's
> constantly restarting due to lockups. The warmer it gets the more he
> reboots. I keep telling him more fans or go for an Intel based unit. I
> always found AMD cpu's have massive power requirements. Which means lots of
> heat to get rid of.

Try underclocking the CPU, that is, reducing its rated clock speed.
This will also reduce the heat it generates.

[Ext User(Maxfli)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:45d8110e$0$52921$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
> Anyone got any good ideas or links to effective computer cooling?
>
> My "office" is in a sectioned off area of my garage. It's a roughly 20' x
> 10' room with insulated walls & ceiling, a door and a single window
> looking out into the rest of the garage. In it is a couple of desks &
> chairs, photocopier, fax, a couple of PC's (one on all the time), and
> various other "office" crap.
>
> The problem is that with ambient temperatures of 38 degrees in Melbourne
> today, it gets to a tad over 50 degrees in the office with almost all of
> that extra heat being generated by the running computer. The computer in
> question has a 500w power supply, and the case gets so hot you can't touch
> the thing without burning your hand.
>
> On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless network,
> but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance from the (air
> conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and the signal has to
> go through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on that too, but open to
> suggestions if anyone has any).
>
> Air conditioning the office would obviously help (and I plan to do that),
> but I'd like to get a lot of the heat out of the computer as well.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>

setup sounds similar to my garage office- a 4m x 4m room with gyprock
ceiling ,walls and insulation. I installed a whirlybird on the roof and
whacked a window box style A/C units in the side wall ,and put some trim
around it from bunnings .Looks real neat and cools the room to stupid cold
if necessary :-) .For the price (i bought a near new remote unit for $80 off
a mate-most people are upgrading to split or ducted ,these units are
giveaway ATM) cant beat it ! all my equiptment (computer x2 ,modem
,router,fax& printer)stays on 24 hrs a day, and has no heat issues.
regards

[Ext User(Rheilly Phoull)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:45d8110e$0$52921$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
> Anyone got any good ideas or links to effective computer cooling?
>
> My "office" is in a sectioned off area of my garage. It's a roughly 20' x
> 10' room with insulated walls & ceiling, a door and a single window
> looking out into the rest of the garage. In it is a couple of desks &
> chairs, photocopier, fax, a couple of PC's (one on all the time), and
> various other "office" crap.
>
> The problem is that with ambient temperatures of 38 degrees in Melbourne
> today, it gets to a tad over 50 degrees in the office with almost all of
> that extra heat being generated by the running computer. The computer in
> question has a 500w power supply, and the case gets so hot you can't touch
> the thing without burning your hand.
>
> On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless network,
> but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance from the (air
> conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and the signal has to
> go through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on that too, but open to
> suggestions if anyone has any).
>
> Air conditioning the office would obviously help (and I plan to do that),
> but I'd like to get a lot of the heat out of the computer as well.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
Yeah, as said, the extraction is the answer. If the AC is a long way off
then the small fan also will give good results (with the extraction :-)

--
Cheers .......... Rheilly P.

[Ext User(David Z)]

<googlegroups@sensation.net.au> wrote in message
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> On Feb 18, 8:39 pm, "Brenden Will" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> A mate of mines AMD cpu'd PC doesn't like the weather either. He's
>> constantly restarting due to lockups. The warmer it gets the more he
>> reboots. I keep telling him more fans or go for an Intel based unit. I
>> always found AMD cpu's have massive power requirements. Which means lots
>> of
>> heat to get rid of.
>
> Try underclocking the CPU, that is, reducing its rated clock speed.
> This will also reduce the heat it generates.

Most modern CPUs already do this, automatically, i.e. Intel Enhanced
SpeedStep.

[Ext User(grumpy@mailinator.com)]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:40:46 +1100, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote:

> Anyone got any good ideas or links to effective computer cooling?
>
> My "office" is in a sectioned off area of my garage. It's a roughly 20' x
> 10' room with insulated walls & ceiling, a door and a single window looking
> out into the rest of the garage. In it is a couple of desks & chairs,
> photocopier, fax, a couple of PC's (one on all the time), and various other
> "office" crap.
>
> The problem is that with ambient temperatures of 38 degrees in Melbourne
> today, it gets to a tad over 50 degrees in the office with almost all of
> that extra heat being generated by the running computer. The computer in
> question has a 500w power supply, and the case gets so hot you can't touch
> the thing without burning your hand.
>
> On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless network,
> but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance from the (air
> conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and the signal has to go
> through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on that too, but open to
> suggestions if anyone has any).
>
> Air conditioning the office would obviously help (and I plan to do that),
> but I'd like to get a lot of the heat out of the computer as well.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?

Buy two air conditioners and a beer fridge.

[Ext User(Poxy)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:45d8110e$0$52921$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
> Anyone got any good ideas or links to effective computer cooling?
>
> My "office" is in a sectioned off area of my garage. It's a roughly 20' x
> 10' room with insulated walls & ceiling, a door and a single window
looking
> out into the rest of the garage. In it is a couple of desks & chairs,
> photocopier, fax, a couple of PC's (one on all the time), and various
other
> "office" crap.
>
> The problem is that with ambient temperatures of 38 degrees in Melbourne
> today, it gets to a tad over 50 degrees in the office with almost all of
> that extra heat being generated by the running computer. The computer in
> question has a 500w power supply, and the case gets so hot you can't touch
> the thing without burning your hand.
>
> On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless network,
> but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance from the (air
> conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and the signal has to
go
> through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on that too, but open to
> suggestions if anyone has any).
>
> Air conditioning the office would obviously help (and I plan to do that),
> but I'd like to get a lot of the heat out of the computer as well.

You've got 2 issues, one is cooling your PC, and the other is the fact that
you essentially have a heater running in the room in the form of a PC +
monitor which is pumping heat into a room that is insulated, so the heat
can't get out. For the PC cooling, one option is to get a new case which has
a large, low revving case fan and good internal air flow.

For the room issue, the best option would be to put the case outside the
room and let all its heat escape to the atmosphere - you can get 10+ metre
monitor cables that deliver a sharp image, or you could build a cabinet
around the PC that vents to the outside, but still allows you to access the
machine easily.

The other thing to see is whether the room is getting rid of its heat when
the outside temperature drops overnight - you might want to think about some
kind of shuttered extraction fan that sucks cool air through the room via
vents/windows overnight to let all the thermal mass lose its stored heat.

The final option is A/C, but that's effectively using more heat (energy) to
remove heat you've already produced - even with the efficiency of heat
pumps, you're using maybe another 200-300w to remove 500w of heat that
didn't have to be produced in the room in the first place.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Blue Heeler" <woof_@bark.net> wrote in message
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> A TP link access point that has a esily removable "standard" antenna
> mount can be had for around $65 on special, it does have a range
> extender mode so you could simply put it in the room closest to your
> shed and see how you go.

I did a bit of research on the subject a few days ago, and it seems there's
a whole sub culture of "wi-fi" nuts out there. Personally, my interest in it
is limited to having the equipment work the way I want it, and that's about
it.

To that end I've played with a couple of "Cantennas" and a 7db dipole, and I
also have a Galaxy 24db parabolic left behind from when I used to subscribe
to their service which I might subject to one of the more popular (and
relatively simple it seems) modifications for 2.4Ghz wireless use.

I don't wish to pick the signal up in Geelong. Just the front room of the
house would be nice.

> As far as the desktop goes - put it on the floor with it's power supply
> fan aimed directly at the wall, cut a hole in the wall and bung in a
> low speed, high volume extractor - something like a engine room vent
> fan from a nautical shop would work a treat and has a weatherproof out
> cover - that way you just suck the heated air out.

I'll give it a try.

I've currently got it set with the power supply fan reversed (so it blows
out the back), and an additional fan in the lower front that sucks outside
air in the same direction. I've tried it with a duct made from an old Falcon
windscreen demister mounted to the back of the power supply (which happened
to be a perfect fit) that was connected to a 12 inch exhaust fan in the wall
via a 4 inch flexible tube, but that didn't seem to make a whole heap of
difference. A couple of degrees maybe, but not much else.

The radiant heat from the case is the worst part, and it really is quite
bad.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"RainbowWarrior" <paulie@pizza.com.nz> wrote in message
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> Upgrde to a more efficient computer perhaps or try a newer power supply if
> they are old machines?

They're both fairly new (well, around 6 months old anyway, but that makes
them obsolete these days).

> Or buy one of those liquid chip coolers and then run the piping to an
> external electric water pump and a Falcadore radiator with thermofans :)

Lol :) That's not as stupid as it sounds, as I've thought of doing much the
same thing :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Scotty" <scoter1@warmmail.com> wrote in message
news:45d81aab$0$4753$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...

> Without getting too far gone with water cooling etc, how about a small fan
> set up that runs from outside (With luck the wall behind your PC isnt sun
> engulfed all day) and go buy a small toilet fan to drag either hot air out
> or cool air in to the back of the PC. If the PC dosent move you can duct
> (supplied with loo fans, they are called MANROSE units and cost $40ish)
> from the case to outside.

I've got a bathroom exhaust fan in the wall right next to the rear of the
machine that runs all day, and that "dumps" into the wall cavity. I used to
have the running machine ducted to it, and when it was on the plaster on
that wall was hot enough to fry an egg :)

External outlets are kinda difficult, as being a brick garage three of the
four walls of this "office" are solid brick. One of those is the diving wall
between my garage and the property next door, and the other two brick walls
have garages built onto them blocking outside access (actually, it'd be more
accurate to call it a "bunker" rather than an "office" :). The fourth wall
is a timber divider between the office and the rest of the garage it's built
in, and that's about the only place I could do something with.

I'll have a look at that option, thanks.


--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

<googlegroups@sensation.net.au> wrote in message
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> Quick fix: $20 desktop fan pointing at the PC. If you can situate it
> to the side (preferably the left) then remove that side of the case so
> air gets blown on the internals. I did this trick when I had a smaller
> case that didn't dissipate heat very well, and I knew the day would be
> a stinker.

I'd have to re-arrange stuff to make that possible, but I'll give it a shot.

> (I presume you open the door and window once it gets hotter than
> outside?)

They're open 24/7.

Being in a garage with a low corregated iron roof it never really gets cold
in any part of it except for the middle of winter, in which case the heat
coming out of the PC's is very welcome. Most of the year the room is "warm",
and on days like today (38 degrees) you can pretty much gaurantee it'll be
at least 15 degrees hotter in the office than it is outside.

It's ben like it for a number of years now, but I've finally had a gutsful.

I must be turning into a wimp as I get older :)

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Brenden Will" <brenx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You can buy a more efficient case or suss out a way to get the air in the
> room to flow. Even if the air entering is hot it sounds like it'll be
> cooler than the air exiting which will keep your PC happy. You must have a
> reasonable PC as quite a few don't like that much heat. You could use a
> couple of $25 fans near a window to direct airflow outside.

Like all good computers, it dosn't make enough power :)

It *is* reliable though, and despite the heat I've never had it fall over.
It runs a "fairly big impressive looking copper pipe large fucking cooling
fan thingy" on the cpu (that's a tradmarked term by the way), and it does
manage to get air going through it. It just has absolute *shitloads* of very
hot air coming out the back of it, combined with a lot of radiant heat from
the case.

> A mate of mines AMD cpu'd PC doesn't like the weather either. He's
> constantly restarting due to lockups. The warmer it gets the more he
> reboots. I keep telling him more fans or go for an Intel based unit. I
> always found AMD cpu's have massive power requirements. Which means lots
> of heat to get rid of.

This thing's a Pentium D 805 (whatever the fuck that means). I know in non
geek speak it means "Not enough fucking power to play Company of Heroes at
maxed resolution" :)

Aside from that, it works well and is pretty reliable despite it's
absolutely shitful operating environment.

> A couple of other components that cause quite a bit of heat are the hard
> driver and monitor. Some monitors generate less heat than others. A way to
> figure it out is to look at the power required to run it. I have CRT's
> here as they refuse to die! LCD's seem to run cooler going by what I've
> seen at my work.

That's another part of the problem.

The machine that's always on has a 21 inch CRT monitor, and that chucks out
a bunch of heat on it's own. It's not on all the time thought, but when it
is it's the icing on the cake so to speak.

I'd upgade to an LCD, but as yet I haven't sen any that I'd like to spend
hours sitting in front of. The Laptop I'm using right now looks like shit by
comparison.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

On Feb 18, 7:40 pm, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote:

> Anyone got any good ideas or links to effective computer cooling?
>
> My "office" is in a sectioned off area of my garage. It's a roughly 20' x
> 10' room with insulated walls & ceiling, a door and a single window looking
> out into the rest of the garage. In it is a couple of desks & chairs,
> photocopier, fax, a couple of PC's (one on all the time), and various other
> "office" crap.
>
> The problem is that with ambient temperatures of 38 degrees in Melbourne
> today, it gets to a tad over 50 degrees in the office with almost all of
> that extra heat being generated by the running computer. The computer in
> question has a 500w power supply, and the case gets so hot you can't touch
> the thing without burning your hand.
>
> On days like today I use the laptop in the house on the wireless network,
> but that's flakey most of the time as the minimum distance from the (air
> conditioned) house to the router is around 60 feet, and the signal has to go
> through 3 walls to get there (I'm working on that too, but open to
> suggestions if anyone has any).
>
> Air conditioning the office would obviously help (and I plan to do that),
> but I'd like to get a lot of the heat out of the computer as well.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?

Mine runs naked - ie: without the case cover on, kinda like I
do in the country.

Seriously though, you need A/C, or proper room cooling.

In very hot conditions, it's not designed for it, nor is
any of the other office crap, including you :-p

[Ext User(Blue Heeler)]

Noddy wrote:

>
> I did a bit of research on the subject a few days ago, and it seems
> there's a whole sub culture of "wi-fi" nuts out there.

The "record" for an unmodified output (but modified antennas of course)
pair of Wifi cards was held by some Israeli students a few years back
at around 70miles across a desert somewhere. I remember this because at
the time I couldn't push a signal 150 metres to a person who was
hoping to join our happy band of internet connection sharers.

I did some testing and found that even though my home made end-fire
helical antennas had sufficient gain so that my tweaked WiFi cards were
showing a quite illegal level of output, a single wet hankerchief
placed between the antennas stopped the signal absolutely dead.

Whilst I did float some jiggery pokey with antennas as one possible
solution to your problem, I suspect that given the low cost, simply
bunging a TP-Link access point in range extender mode at the mid-point
(or beyond) between your existing access point and your shed might well
solve that problem with no additional hardware or muckign about.


>
> The radiant heat from the case is the worst part, and it really is
> quite bad.

Woolies sell a great line of Koolite eskies, buy the biggest, bung the
damm thing in there after cutting holes in the ends to let air flow
through and making arrangements for the wires. That'd fix the bugger.

Actually wrapping it in a couple of space blankets would do the trick
as well.

I'm lucky, courtesy of loud motorcycles, heavy equipment and light
aircraft I am as deaf as a post. The computer in my office has a dual
redundant power supply and (from memory) around 6 case fans. The noise
doesn't worry me, on account of not being able to hear it. The 12,000
btu a/c is probably a somewhat larger than would normally be found in
an office somewhat smaller than the average bedroom, but it stays cool.

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[Ext User(David Z)]

"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Brenden Will" <brenx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:12tg7lsrjc9cu98@corp.supernews.com...
>
>> You can buy a more efficient case or suss out a way to get the air in the
>> room to flow. Even if the air entering is hot it sounds like it'll be
>> cooler than the air exiting which will keep your PC happy. You must have
>> a reasonable PC as quite a few don't like that much heat. You could use a
>> couple of $25 fans near a window to direct airflow outside.
>
> Like all good computers, it dosn't make enough power :)
>
> It *is* reliable though, and despite the heat I've never had it fall over.
> It runs a "fairly big impressive looking copper pipe large fucking cooling
> fan thingy" on the cpu (that's a tradmarked term by the way), and it does
> manage to get air going through it. It just has absolute *shitloads* of
> very hot air coming out the back of it, combined with a lot of radiant
> heat from the case.
>
>> A mate of mines AMD cpu'd PC doesn't like the weather either. He's
>> constantly restarting due to lockups. The warmer it gets the more he
>> reboots. I keep telling him more fans or go for an Intel based unit. I
>> always found AMD cpu's have massive power requirements. Which means lots
>> of heat to get rid of.
>
> This thing's a Pentium D 805 (whatever the fuck that means). I know in non
> geek speak it means "Not enough fucking power to play Company of Heroes at
> maxed resolution" :)

That's your problem there. The Pentium D 805 does not support EIST (which
reduces clock speed when not needed). The CPU is also based on the older
90nm core, which produces more heat. Get a Pentium D 9xx series (which has
the 65nm core and EIST), or better yet, a Core 2 Duo.