How some females drive manual-gearbox cars

[Ext User(Jason James)]

Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar. When
I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse for
the experience.
Anyone noticed similar thing ?

Jason

[Ext User(dirko)]

"Jason James" <home@work.1.0> wrote in message
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> Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
> treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
> BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
> gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
> with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
> Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
> When
> I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse for
> the experience.
> Anyone noticed similar thing ?

Yes. Precicesly the reason for the unhappy 2nd gear in my liberty.
I generally only let her drive the auto for pretty much that reason.

[Ext User(Jonno)]

Jason James wrote:
> Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
> treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
> BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
> gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
> with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
> Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar. When
> I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse for
> the experience.
> Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>
> Jason
>
>
Yeah, most mechanically under educated people do it that way.
Its the driving instructors fault, as a rule. It also happens when
they take you out to learn to drive a truck.
They are in a hurry to change, not realising that it takes a few
microseconds for the synchro to catch up, or that the stress can be
taken of when increasing engine speed or loosing some revs on other
changes.
A refresher course dealing with this would be beneficial to fix things
like this.

[Ext User(Jason James)]

"dirko" <dudemanretravision@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Jason James" <home@work.1.0> wrote in message
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> > Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
> > treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
> > BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
> > gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
> > with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
> > Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
> > When
> > I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse
for
> > the experience.
> > Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>
> Yes. Precicesly the reason for the unhappy 2nd gear in my liberty.
> I generally only let her drive the auto for pretty much that reason.

Yeah, I wince with every gearchange, everytime I ride as passenger in her
car,.. it doesnt matter how much you try to tell them to change gear the
proper way, they just don't get it.

J.

[Ext User(Jason James)]

"Jonno" <somewhere@inthecloud.com> wrote in message
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> Jason James wrote:
> > Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
> > treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
> > BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
> > gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
> > with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
> > Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
When
> > I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse
for
> > the experience.
> > Anyone noticed similar thing ?
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> Yeah, most mechanically under educated people do it that way.
> Its the driving instructors fault, as a rule. It also happens when
> they take you out to learn to drive a truck.
> They are in a hurry to change, not realising that it takes a few
> microseconds for the synchro to catch up, or that the stress can be
> taken of when increasing engine speed or loosing some revs on other
> changes.
> A refresher course dealing with this would be beneficial to fix things
> like this.

Guess its easier if you can visualise whats happening, but even if you arent
mechanically minded, you'd think they would get the idea that its easier to
change gear slower with a slight pause in neutral.

J.

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

On Mar 14, 11:38 am, "Jason James" <h...@work.1.0> wrote:
> "dirko" <dudemanretravis...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "Jason James" <h...@work.1.0> wrote in message
> >news:45f71571$0$63278$c30e37c6@ken-reader.news.telstra.net...
> > > Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
> > > treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
> > > BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
> > > gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
> > > with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
> > > Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
> > > When
> > > I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse
> for
> > > the experience.
> > > Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>
> > Yes. Precicesly the reason for the unhappy 2nd gear in my liberty.
> > I generally only let her drive the auto for pretty much that reason.
>
> Yeah, I wince with every gearchange, everytime I ride as passenger in her
> car,.. it doesnt matter how much you try to tell them to change gear the
> proper way, they just don't get it.

I've also noticed in one case revving the tits off the poor thing
before doing exactly that.

[Ext User(Jonno)]

Jason James wrote:
> "Jonno" <somewhere@inthecloud.com> wrote in message
> news:45f73642$0$15781$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> Jason James wrote:
>>> Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
>>> treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
>>> BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
>>> gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
>>> with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
>>> Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
> When
>>> I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse
> for
>>> the experience.
>>> Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>> Yeah, most mechanically under educated people do it that way.
>> Its the driving instructors fault, as a rule. It also happens when
>> they take you out to learn to drive a truck.
>> They are in a hurry to change, not realising that it takes a few
>> microseconds for the synchro to catch up, or that the stress can be
>> taken of when increasing engine speed or loosing some revs on other
>> changes.
>> A refresher course dealing with this would be beneficial to fix things
>> like this.
>
> Guess its easier if you can visualise whats happening, but even if you arent
> mechanically minded, you'd think they would get the idea that its easier to
> change gear slower with a slight pause in neutral.
>
> J.
>
>
Tell em now!
Will they listen though?

[VYBerlinaV8]

Just let the missus drive an old car. When it eventually dies, replace it.

I tend to turn my cars over every 5-6 years anyway, so I haven't had to deal with the results of this yet.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Jonno" <somewhere@inthecloud.com> wrote in message
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> Tell em now!
> Will they listen though?

Women have ears for two reasons: the first is to give a man something to
drag them by when they've escaped from the kitchen, and the second is for
somewhere to hand their glasses on.

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Jonno)]

Noddy wrote:
> "Jonno" <somewhere@inthecloud.com> wrote in message
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>> Tell em now!
>> Will they listen though?
>
> Women have ears for two reasons: the first is to give a man something to
> drag them by when they've escaped from the kitchen, and the second is for
> somewhere to hand their glasses on.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
>
You mean hang?
Any other tips for us un-educated female owners?

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Jonno" <somewhere@inthecloud.com> wrote in message
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> You mean hang?

I meant hang.

> Any other tips for us un-educated female owners?

Yeah. If they didn't have punani's, they'd be stacked 15 high at the tip :)

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Noddy.

[Ext User(RainbowWarrior)]

"Jason James" <home@work.1.0> wrote in message
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> Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
> treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
> BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
> gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
> with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
> Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
> When
> I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse for
> the experience.
> Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>
> Jason

I drive my Patrol the same way, why, is it a bad thing?

[Ext User(Jonno)]

RainbowWarrior wrote:
> "Jason James" <home@work.1.0> wrote in message
> news:45f71571$0$63278$c30e37c6@ken-reader.news.telstra.net...
>> Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
>> treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
>> BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
>> gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
>> with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
>> Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
>> When
>> I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse for
>> the experience.
>> Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>>
>> Jason
>
> I drive my Patrol the same way, why, is it a bad thing?
>
>
No its a good thing for mechanics.
Just do it as you like it, and keep pouring in the cash.

[Ext User(Richard Sherratt)]

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:21:43 +1100, "Jason James" <home@work.1.0>
wrote:

>Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
>treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
>BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
>gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
>with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
>Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar. When
>I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse for
>the experience.
>Anyone noticed similar thing ?

The gender is not relevant. Crap drivers come with and without
testicles.

Synchromesh, BTW, is an evil thing invented so that pussies can change
gear. It's not neccessary, adds weight and slows down the gear change.
So there!

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Regards.
Richard.

[Ext User(Jonno)]

Richard Sherratt wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:21:43 +1100, "Jason James" <home@work.1.0>
> wrote:
>
>> Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
>> treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
>> BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
>> gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
>> with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
>> Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar. When
>> I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse for
>> the experience.
>> Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>
> The gender is not relevant. Crap drivers come with and without
> testicles.
>
> Synchromesh, BTW, is an evil thing invented so that pussies can change
> gear. It's not neccessary, adds weight and slows down the gear change.
> So there!
>
So you mean to say they sit on the thing?
Thats disgusting, why dont they use their hands.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Richard Sherratt" <richard.sherratt@NOTHINGHEREbrunsley.com.au> wrote in
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> Synchromesh, BTW, is an evil thing invented so that pussies can change
> gear. It's not neccessary, adds weight and slows down the gear change.
> So there!

Crank handles were looked on fondly once as well.....

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(RainbowWarrior)]

"Jonno" <somewhere@inthecloud.com> wrote in message
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> RainbowWarrior wrote:
>> "Jason James" <home@work.1.0> wrote in message
>> news:45f71571$0$63278$c30e37c6@ken-reader.news.telstra.net...
>>> Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
>>> treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
>>> BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
>>> gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
>>> with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
>>> Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
>>> When
>>> I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse
>>> for
>>> the experience.
>>> Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>>>
>>> Jason
>>
>> I drive my Patrol the same way, why, is it a bad thing?
>>
> No its a good thing for mechanics.
> Just do it as you like it, and keep pouring in the cash.

Hmm nope spent nothing at the mechanics in 7 years really other than a
cooked engine, I did pull a 90mm mangled sycro clip out of the drain plug a
few years ago, but it still takes a hammering anyway, only got 365,000km on
it so far.
..

[Ext User(RainbowWarrior)]

"Jonno" <somewhere@inthecloud.com> wrote in message
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> Richard Sherratt wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:21:43 +1100, "Jason James" <home@work.1.0>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
>>> treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
>>> BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
>>> gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
>>> with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
>>> Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
>>> When
>>> I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse
>>> for
>>> the experience.
>>> Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>>
>> The gender is not relevant. Crap drivers come with and without
>> testicles.
>>
>> Synchromesh, BTW, is an evil thing invented so that pussies can change
>> gear. It's not neccessary, adds weight and slows down the gear change.
>> So there!
>>
> So you mean to say they sit on the thing?
> Thats disgusting, why dont they use their hands.

Some girls would swear by a 70kw diesel vibrator compsired to a AA cell
Rabbit I imagine :)

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

On Mar 14, 11:48 pm, "RainbowWarrior" <pau...@pizza.com.nz> wrote:
> "Jonno" <somewh...@inthecloud.com> wrote in message
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> news:45f7d290$0$9772$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>
>
>
> > Richard Sherratt wrote:
> >> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:21:43 +1100, "Jason James" <h...@work.1.0>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
> >>> treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
> >>> BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
> >>> gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
> >>> with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
> >>> Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
> >>> When
> >>> I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse
> >>> for
> >>> the experience.
> >>> Anyone noticed similar thing ?
>
> >> The gender is not relevant. Crap drivers come with and without
> >> testicles.
>
> >> Synchromesh, BTW, is an evil thing invented so that pussies can change
> >> gear. It's not neccessary, adds weight and slows down the gear change.
> >> So there!
>
> > So you mean to say they sit on the thing?
> > Thats disgusting, why dont they use their hands.
>
> Some girls would swear by a 70kw diesel vibrator compsired to a AA cell
> Rabbit I imagine :)

A haw haw haw

Guess again on 70kw.

[Ext User(Jason James)]

"RainbowWarrior" <paulie@pizza.com.nz> wrote in message
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> "Jason James" <home@work.1.0> wrote in message
> news:45f71571$0$63278$c30e37c6@ken-reader.news.telstra.net...
> > Its a phenomona I noticed when I let a female acquaintance drive my
> > treasured first car, a '55 Hillman (best pomme car made in that bracket
> > BTW). They dont pause when they push/pull the gearstick into the neutral
> > gate,..its just whammo, the stick goes straight thru without a breather,
> > with accompanying protests from the gearbox.
> > Since then, I've noticed my daughter does the same thing in her Pulsar.
> > When
> > I happen to drive it, the synchros, especially 2nd was decidely worse
for
> > the experience.
> > Anyone noticed similar thing ?
> >
> > Jason
>
> I drive my Patrol the same way, why, is it a bad thing?

If you just force the stick into gear, the synchros, or whats left of them,
cant bring the two dog-clutch thingos to the same speed to effedct the next
gearchange, so you get the crunching noises or worse, you get locked out and
any additional force will put stress on circlips involved on the shafts?
That's about as techo as I can get.

Jason