How some females OR males change gear in a manual gearbox

[Ext User(Catherine Jemma)]

An old friend of mine, if having trouble selecting reverse, would reach over
with her other hand, and use that on the gearstick as well, in order to
exert more brute force

Personally I have always changed gear, imaging that my gearstick is made of
a slim hollow glass tube......think "you don't want that knob snapping off
in your hand"

Thinking it's like a slim glass gearstick, change accordingly, using a bit
of finesse rather than just brute force, usually with the (earlier thread
post mentioned) pause in neutral and often, on downshifts, with a
double-declutch and gentle rev

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[Ext User(Jonno)]

Catherine Jemma wrote:
> An old friend of mine, if having trouble selecting reverse, would reach over
> with her other hand, and use that on the gearstick as well, in order to
> exert more brute force
>
> Personally I have always changed gear, imaging that my gearstick is made of
> a slim hollow glass tube......think "you don't want that knob snapping off
> in your hand"
>
> Thinking it's like a slim glass gearstick, change accordingly, using a bit
> of finesse rather than just brute force, usually with the (earlier thread
> post mentioned) pause in neutral and often, on downshifts, with a
> double-declutch and gentle rev
>
> cheerio
>
>
> --
>
> "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"
> ......HEROES ep 5 Oct 2006
>
> this email brought to you by Rubbish-Dump computer-power !
>
> Find me at http://myspace.com/catherinejemma
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>
> Patsy....."So is killing NOT wrong anymore ?"
> Trudy....."We don't have to worry about Right and Wrong anymore, ZOOT
> decides for us"
> .................The Tribe episode 2:49
>
>
That is so sensual!

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Jonno wrote:
> Catherine Jemma wrote:
>> An old friend of mine, if having trouble selecting reverse, would
>> reach over
>> with her other hand, and use that on the gearstick as well, in order to
>> exert more brute force
>>
>> Personally I have always changed gear, imaging that my gearstick is
>> made of
>> a slim hollow glass tube......think "you don't want that knob snapping
>> off
>> in your hand"
>>
>> Thinking it's like a slim glass gearstick, change accordingly, using a
>> bit
>> of finesse rather than just brute force, usually with the (earlier thread
>> post mentioned) pause in neutral and often, on downshifts, with a
>> double-declutch and gentle rev
>>
>> cheerio
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"
>> ......HEROES ep 5 Oct 2006
>>
>> this email brought to you by Rubbish-Dump computer-power !
>>
>> Find me at http://myspace.com/catherinejemma
>> check my weBlog http://catherinejemma.blogspot.com
>>
>> Patsy....."So is killing NOT wrong anymore ?"
>> Trudy....."We don't have to worry about Right and Wrong anymore, ZOOT
>> decides for us"
>> .................The Tribe episode 2:49
>>
>>
> That is so sensual!
We all thought the same thing .

[Ext User(Rheilly Phoull)]

"atec 77" <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
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> Jonno wrote:
>> Catherine Jemma wrote:
>>> An old friend of mine, if having trouble selecting reverse, would reach
>>> over
>>> with her other hand, and use that on the gearstick as well, in order to
>>> exert more brute force
>>>
>>> Personally I have always changed gear, imaging that my gearstick is made
>>> of
>>> a slim hollow glass tube......think "you don't want that knob snapping
>>> off
>>> in your hand"
>>>
>>> Thinking it's like a slim glass gearstick, change accordingly, using a
>>> bit
>>> of finesse rather than just brute force, usually with the (earlier
>>> thread
>>> post mentioned) pause in neutral and often, on downshifts, with a
>>> double-declutch and gentle rev
>>>
>>> cheerio
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"
>>> ......HEROES ep 5 Oct 2006
>>>
>>> this email brought to you by Rubbish-Dump computer-power !
>>>
>>> Find me at http://myspace.com/catherinejemma
>>> check my weBlog http://catherinejemma.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> Patsy....."So is killing NOT wrong anymore ?"
>>> Trudy....."We don't have to worry about Right and Wrong anymore, ZOOT
>>> decides for us"
>>> .................The Tribe episode 2:49
>>>
>>>
>> That is so sensual!
> We all thought the same thing .

OOOOHH!! double de-clutching with with a synchro gearbox. Major posing
material there !!

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"Catherine Jemma" <xena@agn.net.auREMOVEthis> wrote in message
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> Thinking it's like a slim glass gearstick, change accordingly, using a bit
> of finesse rather than just brute force, usually with the (earlier thread
> post mentioned) pause in neutral and often, on downshifts, with a
> double-declutch and gentle rev

In the old days of dog boxes ("direct mesh" or as it's otherwise known
"modern American trucks" :) double clutching with a throttle blip was
necessary to match gear speeds to get the things to mesh without grinding
themselves to death and breaking a tooth or ten off a gear. With a
synchromesh, the synchro hub & ring do the speed matching quite quickly, and
all that's needed is to shift from one gear to the next in one smooth
motion.

All double clutching on a synchro box will do is wear your clutch plate out
quicker.

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"Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigpong.com.au> wrote in message
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> OOOOHH!! double de-clutching with with a synchro gearbox. Major posing
> material there !!

MG-B drivers do it all the time :)

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[Ext User(atec 77)]

Rheilly Phoull wrote:
> "atec 77" <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
> news:45f7b9b3$0$1151$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
>> Jonno wrote:
>>> Catherine Jemma wrote:
>>>> An old friend of mine, if having trouble selecting reverse, would reach
>>>> over
>>>> with her other hand, and use that on the gearstick as well, in order to
>>>> exert more brute force
>>>>
>>>> Personally I have always changed gear, imaging that my gearstick is made
>>>> of
>>>> a slim hollow glass tube......think "you don't want that knob snapping
>>>> off
>>>> in your hand"
>>>>
>>>> Thinking it's like a slim glass gearstick, change accordingly, using a
>>>> bit
>>>> of finesse rather than just brute force, usually with the (earlier
>>>> thread
>>>> post mentioned) pause in neutral and often, on downshifts, with a
>>>> double-declutch and gentle rev
>>>>
>>>> cheerio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World"
>>>> ......HEROES ep 5 Oct 2006
>>>>
>>>> this email brought to you by Rubbish-Dump computer-power !
>>>>
>>>> Find me at http://myspace.com/catherinejemma
>>>> check my weBlog http://catherinejemma.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> Patsy....."So is killing NOT wrong anymore ?"
>>>> Trudy....."We don't have to worry about Right and Wrong anymore, ZOOT
>>>> decides for us"
>>>> .................The Tribe episode 2:49
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That is so sensual!
>> We all thought the same thing .
>
> OOOOHH!! double de-clutching with with a synchro gearbox. Major posing
> material there !!
>
Depending on the condition of the box it wont be a pose , the top loader
Ford box when thrashed quickly needs it due to the ring saying ENOUGH ,
nothing like changing down to a happy rattle and vibration through the
stick , it get old very quickly ,Same applies to most any syncro box
when abused .( see women and manuals posts)

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"atec 77" <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
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> Depending on the condition of the box it wont be a pose , the top loader
> Ford box when thrashed quickly needs it due to the ring saying ENOUGH ,
> nothing like changing down to a happy rattle and vibration through the
> stick , it get old very quickly ,Same applies to most any syncro box when
> abused .( see women and manuals posts)

Yeah, but they do that when they're fucked, and they don't get better.

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"Catherine Jemma" <xena@agn.net.auREMOVEthis> wrote in message
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> An old friend of mine, if having trouble selecting reverse, would reach
> over
> with her other hand, and use that on the gearstick as well, in order to
> exert more brute force
>
> Personally I have always changed gear, imaging that my gearstick is made
> of
> a slim hollow glass tube......think "you don't want that knob snapping off
> in your hand"
>
> Thinking it's like a slim glass gearstick, change accordingly, using a bit
> of finesse rather than just brute force, usually with the (earlier thread
> post mentioned) pause in neutral and often, on downshifts, with a
> double-declutch and gentle rev
>

Double declutch and gentle rev on a synchro gearbox is a complete waste of
time.

[Ext User(Trevor Wilson)]

"Catherine Jemma" <xena@agn.net.auREMOVEthis> wrote in message
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> An old friend of mine, if having trouble selecting reverse, would reach
> over
> with her other hand, and use that on the gearstick as well, in order to
> exert more brute force
>
> Personally I have always changed gear, imaging that my gearstick is made
> of
> a slim hollow glass tube......think "you don't want that knob snapping off
> in your hand"
>
> Thinking it's like a slim glass gearstick, change accordingly, using a bit
> of finesse rather than just brute force, usually with the (earlier thread
> post mentioned) pause in neutral and often, on downshifts, with a
> double-declutch and gentle rev

**Oh, you're a wanker. I hear idiots doing that all the time. The only
satisfaction I get is knowing that they will accelerate wear and tear on the
gear train. The last car I owned where I HAD to double declutch was my FC
Holden. No synchro in First, you see. Oh yeah and when I busted a clutch
cable in one of my Escorts.

I love these wankers who use their gearbox to slow them down too. I'll bet
you do that as well. A long time ago, I thought that was the right thing to
do too. One of my mates (who had a CAMS license) put paid to that. He said:
"You have disk brakes. You won't get brake fade and replacing brakes is a
whole bunch cheaper than replacing gearboxes, clutches and what-not."
Naturally, the foregoing has nothing to do with ensuring one is in the
appropriate gear to exit a corner in.

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Noddy wrote:
> "Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigpong.com.au> wrote in message
> news:45f7c130$0$8390$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
>
> > OOOOHH!! double de-clutching with with a synchro gearbox. Major
> > posing material there !!
>
> MG-B drivers do it all the time :)

My old Suzuki Hatch (the 500cc one) seemed to like this way of changing down
in particular. Especially into 2nd. I think it had a plastic clutch though.

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"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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> I love these wankers who use their gearbox to slow them down too. I'll bet
> you do that as well. A long time ago, I thought that was the right thing
> to do too. One of my mates (who had a CAMS license) put paid to that. He
> said: "You have disk brakes. You won't get brake fade and replacing brakes
> is a whole bunch cheaper than replacing gearboxes, clutches and what-not."
> Naturally, the foregoing has nothing to do with ensuring one is in the
> appropriate gear to exit a corner in.

No offense to your mate, but to hold a Cam's license only requires one to
produce a medical certificate and pay the relevant fee, and that hardly
qualifies anyone as an expert.

On the other hand, compression braking is a very useful tool, as anyone who
has driven a commercial vehicle, or *any* vehicle down a long hill will tell
you.

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[Ext User(Dan---)]

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:01:36 +1100, Noddy PCM code reading says :


>
> On the other hand, compression braking is a very useful tool, as anyone
> who has driven a commercial vehicle, or *any* vehicle down a long hill
> will tell you.

Shame that you can't fit a jake brake on a petrol engine. :-)

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"Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
> news:45f88e5b$0$16265
>
>> I love these wankers who use their gearbox to slow them down too. I'll
>> bet you do that as well. A long time ago, I thought that was the right
>> thing to do too. One of my mates (who had a CAMS license) put paid to
>> that. He said: "You have disk brakes. You won't get brake fade and
>> replacing brakes is a whole bunch cheaper than replacing gearboxes,
>> clutches and what-not." Naturally, the foregoing has nothing to do with
>> ensuring one is in the appropriate gear to exit a corner in.
>
> No offense to your mate, but to hold a Cam's license only requires one to
> produce a medical certificate and pay the relevant fee, and that hardly
> qualifies anyone as an expert.

**True enough, but as a niave 20 year old, he was the closest thing to an
expert I could talk to. As I have discovered, his advice was bang on.

>
> On the other hand, compression braking is a very useful tool, as anyone
> who has driven a commercial vehicle, or *any* vehicle down a long hill
> will tell you.

**Trust me when I tell you this: The amount of compression braking available
from a 1.3 Litre, pushrod, single carby Escort engine is bugger all. In
fact, when I did my advanced driving course, I never could figure out what
throttle control was. Then I bought a 2 Litre Escort and it all made sense.


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[Ext User(RainbowWarrior)]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in
> I love these wankers who use their gearbox to slow them down too. I'll bet
> you do that as well. A long time ago, I thought that was the right thing
> to do too. One of my mates (who had a CAMS license) put paid to that. He
> said: "You have disk brakes. You won't get brake fade and replacing brakes
> is a whole bunch cheaper than replacing gearboxes, clutches and what-not."

Compression braking is good, especially in heavy 4WD's, where we have "real"
clutches & gearboxes without plastic cogs anyway.
Lockup is silly though fun at times....................

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"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:45f88e5b$0$16265
>>
>>> I love these wankers who use their gearbox to slow them down too. I'll
>>> bet you do that as well. A long time ago, I thought that was the right
>>> thing to do too. One of my mates (who had a CAMS license) put paid to
>>> that. He said: "You have disk brakes. You won't get brake fade and
>>> replacing brakes is a whole bunch cheaper than replacing gearboxes,
>>> clutches and what-not." Naturally, the foregoing has nothing to do with
>>> ensuring one is in the appropriate gear to exit a corner in.
>>
>> No offense to your mate, but to hold a Cam's license only requires one to
>> produce a medical certificate and pay the relevant fee, and that hardly
>> qualifies anyone as an expert.
>
> **True enough, but as a niave 20 year old, he was the closest thing to an
> expert I could talk to. As I have discovered, his advice was bang on.
>
>> On the other hand, compression braking is a very useful tool, as anyone
>> who has driven a commercial vehicle, or *any* vehicle down a long hill
>> will tell you.
>
> **Trust me when I tell you this: The amount of compression braking
> available from a 1.3 Litre, pushrod, single carby Escort engine is bugger
> all. In fact, when I did my advanced driving course, I never could figure
> out what throttle control was. Then I bought a 2 Litre Escort and it all
> made sense.
>
> Trevor Wilson
> www.rageaudio.com.au

Well you need to try a 4.2 litre Patrol then as well :P

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"Dan---" <nospam@lsx-tuning.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:01:36 +1100, Noddy PCM code reading says :
>
>> On the other hand, compression braking is a very useful tool, as anyone
>> who has driven a commercial vehicle, or *any* vehicle down a long hill
>> will tell you.
>
> Shame that you can't fit a jake brake on a petrol engine. :-)
>
> Regards
> Dan

I had heard of people fitting exhaust restriction valves though.

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RainbowWarrior wrote:
> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in
>
>>I love these wankers who use their gearbox to slow them down too. I'll bet
>>you do that as well. A long time ago, I thought that was the right thing
>>to do too. One of my mates (who had a CAMS license) put paid to that. He
>>said: "You have disk brakes. You won't get brake fade and replacing brakes
>>is a whole bunch cheaper than replacing gearboxes, clutches and what-not."
>
>
> Compression braking is good, especially in heavy 4WD's, where we have "real"
> clutches & gearboxes without plastic cogs anyway.
> Lockup is silly though fun at times....................

Diesel engines like mine are not said to be good
at compression braking, hence as mentioned Jacobs
for trucks, however something happens due to engine
inertia, and double that with low range it kinda works.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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> **Trust me when I tell you this: The amount of compression braking
> available from a 1.3 Litre, pushrod, single carby Escort engine is bugger
> all. In fact, when I did my advanced driving course, I never could figure
> out what throttle control was. Then I bought a 2 Litre Escort and it all
> made sense.

You'd be surprised.

If it's enough to slow the vehicle down quicker than coasting in neutral
(and as someone who is embarrassed to admit to owning a MkI 1300cc Escort
panel van many years ago I can certainly attest to them being capable of
doing that), it's better than none at all.

If you own a manual car, then you can try it for yourself. Whenever your
need to slow down or stop, instead of just coasting in gear throw the thing
into neutral and use nothing but the brakes to see what difference it makes.

Particularly to how much shorter your brake pad life will be.

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Noddy wrote:
> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
> news:45f8ad20$0$16289
>
>
>>**Trust me when I tell you this: The amount of compression braking
>>available from a 1.3 Litre, pushrod, single carby Escort engine is bugger
>>all. In fact, when I did my advanced driving course, I never could figure
>>out what throttle control was. Then I bought a 2 Litre Escort and it all
>>made sense.
>
>
> You'd be surprised.
>
> If it's enough to slow the vehicle down quicker than coasting in neutral
> (and as someone who is embarrassed to admit to owning a MkI 1300cc Escort
> panel van many years ago I can certainly attest to them being capable of
> doing that), it's better than none at all.
>
> If you own a manual car, then you can try it for yourself. Whenever your
> need to slow down or stop, instead of just coasting in gear throw the thing
> into neutral and use nothing but the brakes to see what difference it makes.

Depends on the situation. Vehicle load, and traffic. Meybe spread it
between the clutch, engine and pads.

The pads work and are cheap/easy replacement though.

Unless the disc brake system shitted itself with oil. ...
into the pads.