Parking ticket

[Ext User(CyberDroog)]

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:12:01 +1000, Jeßus <null@void.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:39:32 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:40:00 +1000, Jeßus <null@void.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:24:48 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is our tendency to crowd together that makes the world seem
>>>> overpopulated.
>>>
>>>LOL, you make me laugh.
>>>'Mismanagement' is the only problem, eh?
>>>There's far too many ****ing people (pun intended). Period.
>>
>> So shoot yourself.
>
>LOL, you make me laugh.

There you go using up everybody else's air again...

[Ext User(Alan Harding)]

In message <47q223p6e04b4eb5em2jl4hg4s2gr7hipi@news.easynews.c om>,
CyberDroog <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
>On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:12:01 +1000, Jeßus <null@void.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:39:32 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:40:00 +1000, Jeßus <null@void.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:24:48 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is our tendency to crowd together that makes the world seem
>>>>> overpopulated.
>>>>
>>>>LOL, you make me laugh.
>>>>'Mismanagement' is the only problem, eh?
>>>>There's far too many ****ing people (pun intended). Period.
>>>
>>> So shoot yourself.
>>
>>LOL, you make me laugh.
>
>There you go using up everybody else's air again...

Hey! That was my breath!

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[Ext User(CyberDroog)]

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:58:36 +0100, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message <47q223p6e04b4eb5em2jl4hg4s2gr7hipi@news.easynews.c om>,
>CyberDroog <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
>>On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:12:01 +1000, Jeßus <null@void.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:39:32 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:40:00 +1000, Jeßus <null@void.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:24:48 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is our tendency to crowd together that makes the world seem
>>>>>> overpopulated.
>>>>>
>>>>>LOL, you make me laugh.
>>>>>'Mismanagement' is the only problem, eh?
>>>>>There's far too many ****ing people (pun intended). Period.
>>>>
>>>> So shoot yourself.
>>>
>>>LOL, you make me laugh.
>>
>>There you go using up everybody else's air again...
>
>Hey! That was my breath!

I'm proud to say I am air neutral. I only breath on Monday, Wednesday,
Friday, and until noon on Sunday.

[Ext User(ant)]

the_dawggie wrote:
> I would have expected a check to have been made,
> via radio or plate scan, to realize I am a local
> resident.
>
> Window stickers suck.

They do. Next time, duct tape some doughnuts to the car. And if you want to
please the policeman, stick them to the OUTSIDE.

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I'm using the spammer
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[Ext User(Daryl Walford)]

the_dawggie wrote:
> Just got one because my life is too stuffed up
> at the moment to find anything, let alone a
> resident free parking sticker, which I now
> just found after much searching.
>
> Oh, well, fax the ticket and sticker through,
> and it's all good.
>
> Overpopulation and greed, overpopulation
> and greed, overpopultation and greed,
> overpopulation and greed, overpopulation
> and greed, overpopulation and greed.
>
It would be a lot easier if you took responsibility for your own actions
then you wouldn't have gotten the ticket in the first place.
Overpopulation and greed exist but in this instance your own laziness
caused you to get the parking ticket so why blame someone else?
Locals in your area would complain like crazy to the council if non
residents took all the parking spaces but you still complain when they
do something about it, stop whinging and put the sticker where its
supposed to be.



Daryl

[Ext User(Daryl Walford)]

Jack wrote:
> the_dawggie wrote:
>> On Apr 13, 12:06 am, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote:
>>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> Why should I fit it, I'm registered to have one? same goes for
>>>> rego labels. I paid for it.
>>> Paying for your rego is only half the legal requirement. Attaching
>>> the label
>>> to your vehicle is the other.
>>>
>>> As far as parking permits go, none of the parking officers in my area
>>> have
>>> access to valid permit holding vehicle lists while they're out issuing
>>> tickets, and the onus is on the permit holder to display the permit
>>> to avoid
>>> being booked. If you can't be ****ed taking five minutes to attach a
>>> label
>>> to your windscreen you deserve the ticket in my opnion.
>>>
>>> I should add that the permits are free in my area (Hobsons Bay, VIC) and
>>> they allow residents to park freely at metered shopping and beach areas.
>>> Regular resident parking permits for street parking aren't required.
>>
>> Expensive little items here.
>>
>> I have one.
>>
>> You missed the point that police can do rego checks any which
>> way they please. Look up the registered owner sure they can,
>> when they *need* too.
>>
>> I'm developing a fairly bitter attitude to attached lables.
>>
>> If I pay pay around $9000 in taxes and rates (on top of what I
>> earn) I really dont expect to be sticking little lables on.
>>
> I agree with you. Why should they create another "gotcha" situation by
> requiring you to attach a label? Its another way of collecting revenue.
> Comply or your wallet cops a beating. Nothing more than standover
> tactics by councils using the same type of tricks as the mafia used to use.
> And I mean this. You are allowed access to your own home and parking
> areas. Like hell you are. Show me your ticket first. Next they will be
> charging you for them.
> Kick up a ruckus and fight the heavies. Make them earn their dollars,
> and huge super payouts.

You don't get it do you?
Parking permits are to protect the rights of residents allowing them to
park close to home, without them every man and his dog would park in
your neighborhood and locals wouldn't be able to park anywhere near
their houses.
I think you and the Dawggie must be on the same drugs which are twisting
your thinking.



Daryl

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

On Apr 16, 7:46 pm, Daryl Walford <u...@example.net> wrote:

> I think you and the Dawggie must be on the same drugs which are twisting
> your thinking.

You need to realize that technology is now at a point that
it *will* be used for GovCo purposes to make money, not
citizen purposes. The ballance is not the same.

Think about that statement.

There is abosultely no ****ing way rego labels or
council rego lables are required on vehicles these
days.

Rego plate and VIN details are enough - both are
visable to anyone walking past. I'll add to that
the increasing "toll tag only" tollways.

No, it's ****ed up.

What is happening is council/GovCo have to employ
folk, otherwise lot of folk out of jobbies.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> There is abosultely no ****ing way rego labels or
> council rego lables are required on vehicles these
> days.

But they are.

I don't know about your part of the world, but most parking officers in
Melbourne use the rego label to identify the vehicle, and they don't have
electronic links to vehicle databases with them on the job. They have a
ticket machine that simply spits out the infringement notice based on the
details they enter into it, such as the rego, the location, the time and
type of offence.

> Rego plate and VIN details are enough - both are
> visable to anyone walking past. I'll add to that
> the increasing "toll tag only" tollways.

How are VIN numbers visible to anyone walking past?

Rego label details are mainly used because they're not as easy to fudge as
fake number plates.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

On Apr 16, 11:40 pm, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote:
> "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > There is abosultely no ****ing way rego labels or
> > council rego lables are required on vehicles these
> > days.
>
> But they are.
>
> I don't know about your part of the world, but most parking officers in
> Melbourne use the rego label to identify the vehicle, and they don't have
> electronic links to vehicle databases with them on the job. They have a
> ticket machine that simply spits out the infringement notice based on the
> details they enter into it, such as the rego, the location, the time and
> type of offence.
>
> > Rego plate and VIN details are enough - both are
> > visable to anyone walking past. I'll add to that
> > the increasing "toll tag only" tollways.
>
> How are VIN numbers visible to anyone walking past?
>
> Rego label details are mainly used because they're not as easy to fudge as
> fake number plates.

I've got a VIN right there visable on the chassis, also I think
Commodes
and other cars have it visible from on the dash.

Recently been using it to decide which 'luxen were built
in Japan or elsewhere. Seem to be a lot still from JapCo.

Labels are shite, and in my case contain no real identity
details.

Two forms of ID are enough. We need a stupid sticker?
Why?

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> I've got a VIN right there visable on the chassis, also I think
> Commodes
> and other cars have it visible from on the dash.


Yeah, some do, but they're the exception rather than the rule. Most cars you
have to open the bonnet or boot to read the plate.

> Labels are shite, and in my case contain no real identity
> details.

Your rego label tells everything anyone in authority needs to know about the
vehicle.

> Two forms of ID are enough. We need a stupid sticker?
> Why?

It's a receipt for having paid your registration. It's just a sticker. It's
not a big deal. It won't bite you.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Jack)]

Daryl Walford wrote:
> Jack wrote:
>> the_dawggie wrote:
>>> On Apr 13, 12:06 am, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote:
>>>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> Why should I fit it, I'm registered to have one? same goes for
>>>>> rego labels. I paid for it.
>>>> Paying for your rego is only half the legal requirement. Attaching
>>>> the label
>>>> to your vehicle is the other.
>>>>
>>>> As far as parking permits go, none of the parking officers in my
>>>> area have
>>>> access to valid permit holding vehicle lists while they're out issuing
>>>> tickets, and the onus is on the permit holder to display the permit
>>>> to avoid
>>>> being booked. If you can't be ****ed taking five minutes to attach a
>>>> label
>>>> to your windscreen you deserve the ticket in my opnion.
>>>>
>>>> I should add that the permits are free in my area (Hobsons Bay, VIC)
>>>> and
>>>> they allow residents to park freely at metered shopping and beach
>>>> areas.
>>>> Regular resident parking permits for street parking aren't required.
>>>
>>> Expensive little items here.
>>>
>>> I have one.
>>>
>>> You missed the point that police can do rego checks any which
>>> way they please. Look up the registered owner sure they can,
>>> when they *need* too.
>>>
>>> I'm developing a fairly bitter attitude to attached lables.
>>>
>>> If I pay pay around $9000 in taxes and rates (on top of what I
>>> earn) I really dont expect to be sticking little lables on.
>>>
>> I agree with you. Why should they create another "gotcha" situation by
>> requiring you to attach a label? Its another way of collecting
>> revenue. Comply or your wallet cops a beating. Nothing more than
>> standover tactics by councils using the same type of tricks as the
>> mafia used to use.
>> And I mean this. You are allowed access to your own home and parking
>> areas. Like hell you are. Show me your ticket first. Next they will
>> be charging you for them.
>> Kick up a ruckus and fight the heavies. Make them earn their dollars,
>> and huge super payouts.
>
> You don't get it do you?
> Parking permits are to protect the rights of residents allowing them to
> park close to home, without them every man and his dog would park in
> your neighborhood and locals wouldn't be able to park anywhere near
> their houses.
> I think you and the Dawggie must be on the same drugs which are twisting
> your thinking.
>
>
>
> Daryl
No you dont get it!
A head transplant would help.
A resident shouldnt have to go to great lenghts to clear a ticket.
Youve got ingrained thinking, in your head.
The local authorities stuffed up the parking in the first place by not
making allowances for cars in the inner city.
A resident shouldnt even have to attach a rego sticker as recalling a
rego plate is easy as pressing a few buttons on their portable
computers, the same as youre doing when your on your computer Mr.
Potato head.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Jack" <JW@texas.com.nz> wrote in message
news:4624364a$0$9772$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...

> No you dont get it!
> A head transplant would help.
> A resident shouldnt have to go to great lenghts to clear a ticket.

And why is that?

People who complain about getting booked because they can't be ****ed doing
something as *simple* as putting a sticker on their window to avoid it have
rocks in their head in my opnion.

> Youve got ingrained thinking, in your head.
> The local authorities stuffed up the parking in the first place by not
> making allowances for cars in the inner city.

What, 100 years ago when there were very few cars? :)

> A resident shouldnt even have to attach a rego sticker as recalling a rego
> plate is easy as pressing a few buttons on their portable computers, the
> same as youre doing when your on your computer Mr. Potato head.

What area do you know of that have parking officers equipped with
"computers" that can call up a vehicle's details in an instant by linking to
some database?

Parking officers in Melbourne have ticket machines that spit tickets out
based on the information the officer puts into them, such as the
registration number from the label, the date & time of the offence, and the
type of offence the vehicle is pinched for. They are not automatically
linked to databases that sort authorised vehicles from non authorised ones,
and I'm sure most councils would want to avoid their officers wasting time
pumping in the details to see if the vehicle *was* authorised to park in a
certain area before booking it even if they *did* have that type of instant
access.

Read the back of your permit or the literature that accompanies it. It'll
clearly state somewhere that it's your obligation to display the permit to
avoid being booked, and if you can't be ****ed doing that because you're
that much of a nutter to think such a simple protest against the machine
will make the slightest ****ing difference to *anyone*, then you deserve
every ticket you get.

Society has rules. Some good, some bad, but you play along anyway or you
move into a cave. Get a life.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Daryl Walford)]

the_dawggie wrote:
> On Apr 16, 7:46 pm, Daryl Walford <u...@example.net> wrote:
>
>> I think you and the Dawggie must be on the same drugs which are twisting
>> your thinking.
>
> You need to realize that technology is now at a point that
> it *will* be used for GovCo purposes to make money, not
> citizen purposes. The ballance is not the same.
>
> Think about that statement.
>
> There is abosultely no ****ing way rego labels or
> council rego lables are required on vehicles these
> days.
>
> Rego plate and VIN details are enough - both are
> visable to anyone walking past. I'll add to that
> the increasing "toll tag only" tollways.
>
> No, it's ****ed up.
>
> What is happening is council/GovCo have to employ
> folk, otherwise lot of folk out of jobbies.
>
So its perfectly ok by you that your already excessive taxes increase
significantly because the Council have to buy mega bucks worth of
technology to enable parking officers to check whether or not you are
parked legally.
Its much easier and cheaper for everyone to put a small sticker on their
cars window.
I bet you would complain like crazy when you can't find a parking spot
within a couple of klms of your house because the Council says its too
hard to enforce the parking regulations.



Daryl

[Ext User(Daryl Walford)]

Jack wrote:
> Daryl Walford wrote:
>> Jack wrote:
>>> the_dawggie wrote:
>>>> On Apr 13, 12:06 am, "Noddy" <dg4163@(nospam)dodo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> Why should I fit it, I'm registered to have one? same goes for
>>>>>> rego labels. I paid for it.
>>>>> Paying for your rego is only half the legal requirement. Attaching
>>>>> the label
>>>>> to your vehicle is the other.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as parking permits go, none of the parking officers in my
>>>>> area have
>>>>> access to valid permit holding vehicle lists while they're out issuing
>>>>> tickets, and the onus is on the permit holder to display the permit
>>>>> to avoid
>>>>> being booked. If you can't be ****ed taking five minutes to attach
>>>>> a label
>>>>> to your windscreen you deserve the ticket in my opnion.
>>>>>
>>>>> I should add that the permits are free in my area (Hobsons Bay,
>>>>> VIC) and
>>>>> they allow residents to park freely at metered shopping and beach
>>>>> areas.
>>>>> Regular resident parking permits for street parking aren't required.
>>>>
>>>> Expensive little items here.
>>>>
>>>> I have one.
>>>>
>>>> You missed the point that police can do rego checks any which
>>>> way they please. Look up the registered owner sure they can,
>>>> when they *need* too.
>>>>
>>>> I'm developing a fairly bitter attitude to attached lables.
>>>>
>>>> If I pay pay around $9000 in taxes and rates (on top of what I
>>>> earn) I really dont expect to be sticking little lables on.
>>>>
>>> I agree with you. Why should they create another "gotcha" situation
>>> by requiring you to attach a label? Its another way of collecting
>>> revenue. Comply or your wallet cops a beating. Nothing more than
>>> standover tactics by councils using the same type of tricks as the
>>> mafia used to use.
>>> And I mean this. You are allowed access to your own home and parking
>>> areas. Like hell you are. Show me your ticket first. Next they will
>>> be charging you for them.
>>> Kick up a ruckus and fight the heavies. Make them earn their dollars,
>>> and huge super payouts.
>>
>> You don't get it do you?
>> Parking permits are to protect the rights of residents allowing them
>> to park close to home, without them every man and his dog would park
>> in your neighborhood and locals wouldn't be able to park anywhere near
>> their houses.
>> I think you and the Dawggie must be on the same drugs which are
>> twisting your thinking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daryl
> No you dont get it!
> A head transplant would help.
> A resident shouldnt have to go to great lenghts to clear a ticket.
> Youve got ingrained thinking, in your head.
> The local authorities stuffed up the parking in the first place by not
> making allowances for cars in the inner city.
> A resident shouldnt even have to attach a rego sticker as recalling a
> rego plate is easy as pressing a few buttons on their portable
> computers, the same as youre doing when your on your computer Mr. Potato
> head.

Read my reply to Dawggie which answers your ignorance.
I personally wouldn't live in a shit hole where I have to park on the
street, I have lock up under cover parking for 3 large cars and a boat
at my house and IMO thats still not enough garage space.



Daryl

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

Jeßus wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:39:32 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:40:00 +1000, Jeßus <null@void.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:24:48 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is our tendency to crowd together that makes the world seem
>>>> overpopulated.

Correct. I hate it.

>>> 'Mismanagement' is the only problem, eh?

GovCo will never know their arse from their elbow.

>>> There's far too many ****ing people (pun intended). Period.
>> So shoot yourself.

True. There are too many people, I've used that one myself.

> LOL, you make me laugh.

Arond where I live, security guards, rangers and just
about everyone else can sign off on a parking ticket.
I showed the docs were not right, and was paying my
rate bills at the time. Got an appology letter, fine
cancelled.

[Ext User(lisa in mass.)]

the_dawggie wrote...

> Jeßus wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:39:32 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:40:00 +1000, Jeßus <null@void.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:24:48 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It is our tendency to crowd together that makes the
>>>>> world seem overpopulated.
>
> Correct. I hate it.
>
>>>> 'Mismanagement' is the only problem, eh?
>
> GovCo will never know their arse from their elbow.
>
>>>> There's far too many ****ing people (pun intended).
>>>> Period.
>>> So shoot yourself.
>
> True. There are too many people, I've used that one myself.
>
>> LOL, you make me laugh.
>
> Arond where I live, security guards, rangers and just
> about everyone else can sign off on a parking ticket.
> I showed the docs were not right, and was paying my
> rate bills at the time. Got an appology letter, fine
> cancelled.
>
>

Why are you responding to posts from April?

[Ext User(BoredToTears)]

On 3 Dec, 03:48, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:
> the_dawggie wrote...
> > Jeßus wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:39:32 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>
> >>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:40:00 +1000, Jeßus <n...@void.net>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:24:48 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>
> >>>>> It is our tendency to crowd together that makes the
> >>>>> world seem overpopulated.
>
> > Correct. I hate it.
>
> >>>> 'Mismanagement' is the only problem, eh?
>
> > GovCo will never know their arse from their elbow.
>
> >>>> There's far too many ****ing people (pun intended).
> >>>> Period.
> >>> So shoot yourself.
>
> > True. There are too many people, I've used that one myself.
>
> >> LOL, you make me laugh.
>
> > Arond where I live, security guards, rangers and just
> > about everyone else can sign off on a parking ticket.
> > I showed the docs were not right, and was paying my
> > rate bills at the time. Got an appology letter, fine
> > cancelled.
>
> Why are you responding to posts from April?


Cos they make reference to one or more of his obsessions. You know,
govco, shaveco, epilating, overpopulation, life in the chity, half-
awake half-asleep, chilli seafood, mirrors, self-manipulation,
plugging it into his imagination, droogs and quacks and whatever else
I've forgotten.

[Ext User(Andy)]

BoredToTears wrote:
> On 3 Dec, 03:48, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:
>> the_dawggie wrote...
>>> Jeßus wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:39:32 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:40:00 +1000, Jeßus <n...@void.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:24:48 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
>>>>>>> It is our tendency to crowd together that makes the
>>>>>>> world seem overpopulated.
>>> Correct. I hate it.
>>>>>> 'Mismanagement' is the only problem, eh?
>>> GovCo will never know their arse from their elbow.
>>>>>> There's far too many ****ing people (pun intended).
>>>>>> Period.
>>>>> So shoot yourself.
>>> True. There are too many people, I've used that one myself.
>>>> LOL, you make me laugh.
>>> Arond where I live, security guards, rangers and just
>>> about everyone else can sign off on a parking ticket.
>>> I showed the docs were not right, and was paying my
>>> rate bills at the time. Got an appology letter, fine
>>> cancelled.
>> Why are you responding to posts from April?
>
>
> Cos they make reference to one or more of his obsessions. You know,
> govco, shaveco, epilating, overpopulation, life in the chity, half-
> awake half-asleep, chilli seafood, mirrors, self-manipulation,
> plugging it into his imagination, droogs and quacks and whatever else
> I've forgotten.


Land tax.




You're welcome.

:-)

Andy.