Ext User(Henry-Schmidt)
02-05-2007, 02:04 AM
John Fields wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2007 10:46:36 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:59:28 -0500, John Fields
>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> spat on Rhonda Lea Kirk, then wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 03:21:25 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:25:31 -0700, John Larkin
>>>> <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> spat on Rhonda Lea Kirk,
>>>> then wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 00:00:54 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:49:00 -0700, John Larkin
>>>>>> <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> spat on Rhonda Lea Kirk,
>>>>>> then wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2007 21:00:56 -0700, MooseFET <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 7:32 pm, Niemadre wrote:
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>> SED is a very high traffic NG
>>>>>>>>>> IIRC one thread here ran to some 20,000+ posts in the space of a couple
>>>>>>>>>> of months.
>>>>>>>>> Bullshit, anyway, the only ones posting is Prongies bot.
>>>>>>>> No actually we are a very active group, even without the "Prongies
>>>>>>>> bot". If you want to see a huge number of posts, all you have to do
>>>>>>>> is get into one of the many religous wars of electronics. Just try,
>>>>>>>> foolishly, suggesting that 0.1 uF bypass capacitors are optimal and
>>>>>>>> jump back and watch the results.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 0.33 uF, and don't you forget it!
>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 100nF for each DIP & a tanty for every 1/2 dozen packages has always
>>>>>> been 100% reliable for me.
>>>>> DIP? What's a DIP? Is that some sort of vacuum tube?
>>>>>
>>>>> But seriously, don't use tantalums as power rail bypasses. They tend
>>>>> to detonate.
>>>> I've heard that for I don't know how many years, but I've only ever
>>>> seen blown up tanties when some genius has reversed them, or run them
>>>> over-voltage.
>>>>
>>>>> Nowadays, a 10 or even 22 uF creamic is affordable and
>>>>> all-around a better bulk bypass than a tantalum.
>>>> They didn't exist in any reasonable size when I first started doing
>>>> design work, so it was tants, electros, or nothing, but these days,
>>>> definitely.
>>> ---
>>> Just so you know, what you call a "tant" is an electrolytic
>>> capacitor, as is what you call an "electro", the difference being in
>>> their plates; tantalum in one and aluminum in the other. AFAIK
>>> their electrolytes are also different, but because of the
>>> electrolyte (which is used to form the oxide dielectric) they're
>>> both 'electrolytic' capacitors.
>> <throws a fish into Flipper's tank>
>
> ---
> <Throws fish touched by Lionel back out>
>
>
Loonel got *kooties*
> On Tue, 01 May 2007 10:46:36 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:59:28 -0500, John Fields
>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> spat on Rhonda Lea Kirk, then wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 03:21:25 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:25:31 -0700, John Larkin
>>>> <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> spat on Rhonda Lea Kirk,
>>>> then wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 00:00:54 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 06:49:00 -0700, John Larkin
>>>>>> <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> spat on Rhonda Lea Kirk,
>>>>>> then wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2007 21:00:56 -0700, MooseFET <kensmith@rahul.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 7:32 pm, Niemadre wrote:
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>> SED is a very high traffic NG
>>>>>>>>>> IIRC one thread here ran to some 20,000+ posts in the space of a couple
>>>>>>>>>> of months.
>>>>>>>>> Bullshit, anyway, the only ones posting is Prongies bot.
>>>>>>>> No actually we are a very active group, even without the "Prongies
>>>>>>>> bot". If you want to see a huge number of posts, all you have to do
>>>>>>>> is get into one of the many religous wars of electronics. Just try,
>>>>>>>> foolishly, suggesting that 0.1 uF bypass capacitors are optimal and
>>>>>>>> jump back and watch the results.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 0.33 uF, and don't you forget it!
>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 100nF for each DIP & a tanty for every 1/2 dozen packages has always
>>>>>> been 100% reliable for me.
>>>>> DIP? What's a DIP? Is that some sort of vacuum tube?
>>>>>
>>>>> But seriously, don't use tantalums as power rail bypasses. They tend
>>>>> to detonate.
>>>> I've heard that for I don't know how many years, but I've only ever
>>>> seen blown up tanties when some genius has reversed them, or run them
>>>> over-voltage.
>>>>
>>>>> Nowadays, a 10 or even 22 uF creamic is affordable and
>>>>> all-around a better bulk bypass than a tantalum.
>>>> They didn't exist in any reasonable size when I first started doing
>>>> design work, so it was tants, electros, or nothing, but these days,
>>>> definitely.
>>> ---
>>> Just so you know, what you call a "tant" is an electrolytic
>>> capacitor, as is what you call an "electro", the difference being in
>>> their plates; tantalum in one and aluminum in the other. AFAIK
>>> their electrolytes are also different, but because of the
>>> electrolyte (which is used to form the oxide dielectric) they're
>>> both 'electrolytic' capacitors.
>> <throws a fish into Flipper's tank>
>
> ---
> <Throws fish touched by Lionel back out>
>
>
Loonel got *kooties*