Re: How many digital inputs

[Ext User(Alan Rutlidge)]

"Freddy T" <removeAllCharacters@beforeSend> wrote in message
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> "TT" <TTencerNoSpAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in
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>
>>
>> "TJB" <2lazyToGet@one> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9940C9D088D95IDWhatID@150.101.134.18...
>>>>> I've just put both spec sheets up at the same time and compared
>>>>> them.
>>>> There is a lot more difference than just and extra digital input.
>>>> IMHO go for the 816 and find some Hardly Normal store somewhere that
>>>> will knock it down so far they prctically pay you to take it away
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> BTW the other things the 816 does: Has a USB & Optrical input on the
>>>> front, does 7.1, has pre-amp outs, coponent video switching and
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> Again IMHO this is the very minimum spec machine anyone should get.
>>>> BTW If you go the next model up you will get HDMI switching as well
>>>> as upscaling. My mate has the 2016 and he raves about it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers TT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks TT
>>>
>>> The 816 is about all my budget will stretch to. I still need to buy
>>> speakers and active sub. The 2016 does have HDMI but I don't think it
>>> actually uses the HMDI audio, only providing 2 HDMI inputs to one
>>> output. Not that useful for me at the moment maybe in the future. By
>>> the time I get around to buying a widescreen set (they need to drop
>>> in price a lot more), they may offer a number of HDMI inputs making
>>> it even less attractive. The 2016 may have other features but I don't
>>> know how worthwhile they are. The price difference between the 816
>>> and the 2016 is just too great. The 816/516 will also replace an old
>>> mini-cd audio system.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> TJB
>>
>> BTW all HDMI plugs and cables support 8 channel audio. Where you may
>> be a little confused is that *not* all HDMI receivers will decode SACD
>> or that not all DVD players will output SACD via Analog or HDMI.
>>
>> It's hard I know ;-) Any way the good news is you will be pleased
>> with the Pioneer. Now go and beat up on some sales droid somewhere
>> and make him pass on his commission so you get a better deal :-))
>>
>> Cheers TT
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for your input TT
> I hope to twist some arms soon. I am not in any hurry which is probably
> in my favour as electronic stuff generel gets cheaper as time goes by.
> The only chatch is if you wait too long it can fall of the face of the
> earth and the new model is twice as expensive and you need to wait all
> over again!!
>
> TJB

Just as a matter of idle interest - HDMI V1.2a specifies AFAIK 8 channels of
LPCM audio can be carried over the connection, besides the obvious video
part.

Cheers,
Alan

[Ext User(Lee Heathershaw)]

Alan Rutlidge wrote:
> "Freddy T" <removeAllCharacters@beforeSend> wrote in message
> news:Xns9941CA5407D4AremoveAllCharacters@150.101.1 34.18...
>> "TT" <TTencerNoSpAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in
>> news:465d7f2b$1@quokka.wn.com.au:
>>
>>> "TJB" <2lazyToGet@one> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9940C9D088D95IDWhatID@150.101.134.18...
>>>>>> I've just put both spec sheets up at the same time and compared
>>>>>> them.
>>>>> There is a lot more difference than just and extra digital input.
>>>>> IMHO go for the 816 and find some Hardly Normal store somewhere that
>>>>> will knock it down so far they prctically pay you to take it away
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW the other things the 816 does: Has a USB & Optrical input on the
>>>>> front, does 7.1, has pre-amp outs, coponent video switching and
>>>>> more.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again IMHO this is the very minimum spec machine anyone should get.
>>>>> BTW If you go the next model up you will get HDMI switching as well
>>>>> as upscaling. My mate has the 2016 and he raves about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers TT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks TT
>>>>
>>>> The 816 is about all my budget will stretch to. I still need to buy
>>>> speakers and active sub. The 2016 does have HDMI but I don't think it
>>>> actually uses the HMDI audio, only providing 2 HDMI inputs to one
>>>> output. Not that useful for me at the moment maybe in the future. By
>>>> the time I get around to buying a widescreen set (they need to drop
>>>> in price a lot more), they may offer a number of HDMI inputs making
>>>> it even less attractive. The 2016 may have other features but I don't
>>>> know how worthwhile they are. The price difference between the 816
>>>> and the 2016 is just too great. The 816/516 will also replace an old
>>>> mini-cd audio system.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> TJB
>>> BTW all HDMI plugs and cables support 8 channel audio. Where you may
>>> be a little confused is that *not* all HDMI receivers will decode SACD
>>> or that not all DVD players will output SACD via Analog or HDMI.
>>>
>>> It's hard I know ;-) Any way the good news is you will be pleased
>>> with the Pioneer. Now go and beat up on some sales droid somewhere
>>> and make him pass on his commission so you get a better deal :-))
>>>
>>> Cheers TT
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for your input TT
>> I hope to twist some arms soon. I am not in any hurry which is probably
>> in my favour as electronic stuff generel gets cheaper as time goes by.
>> The only chatch is if you wait too long it can fall of the face of the
>> earth and the new model is twice as expensive and you need to wait all
>> over again!!
>>
>> TJB
>
> Just as a matter of idle interest - HDMI V1.2a specifies AFAIK 8 channels of
> LPCM audio can be carried over the connection, besides the obvious video
> part.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan
>
>
Coming in at the end of this, I can't recall if you discussed what your
budget is, but in Sydney at least, I found 2 places today that were
offering to sell the VSX-1016 significantly cheaper than list price.

Domayne at Alexandria had it new for $1040, and Bing Lee had their floor
model for $860. (Silver). NAPF at Summer Hill had their floor model for
$876, so I'm guessing a lot of Pioneer is being discounted in
preparation for new models. If you aren't stretching that far, it might
be worth hunting around for somewhere with an 816 on display that might
be prepared to knock it down to get it off the floor.

regards

Lee

[Ext User(Alan Rutlidge)]

"Lee Heathershaw" <hthrshw@yahoodotcomdotau> wrote in message
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> Alan Rutlidge wrote:
>> "Freddy T" <removeAllCharacters@beforeSend> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9941CA5407D4AremoveAllCharacters@150.101.1 34.18...
>>> "TT" <TTencerNoSpAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in
>>> news:465d7f2b$1@quokka.wn.com.au:
>>>
>>>> "TJB" <2lazyToGet@one> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9940C9D088D95IDWhatID@150.101.134.18...
>>>>>>> I've just put both spec sheets up at the same time and compared
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> There is a lot more difference than just and extra digital input.
>>>>>> IMHO go for the 816 and find some Hardly Normal store somewhere that
>>>>>> will knock it down so far they prctically pay you to take it away
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW the other things the 816 does: Has a USB & Optrical input on the
>>>>>> front, does 7.1, has pre-amp outs, coponent video switching and
>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again IMHO this is the very minimum spec machine anyone should get.
>>>>>> BTW If you go the next model up you will get HDMI switching as well
>>>>>> as upscaling. My mate has the 2016 and he raves about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers TT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks TT
>>>>>
>>>>> The 816 is about all my budget will stretch to. I still need to buy
>>>>> speakers and active sub. The 2016 does have HDMI but I don't think it
>>>>> actually uses the HMDI audio, only providing 2 HDMI inputs to one
>>>>> output. Not that useful for me at the moment maybe in the future. By
>>>>> the time I get around to buying a widescreen set (they need to drop
>>>>> in price a lot more), they may offer a number of HDMI inputs making
>>>>> it even less attractive. The 2016 may have other features but I don't
>>>>> know how worthwhile they are. The price difference between the 816
>>>>> and the 2016 is just too great. The 816/516 will also replace an old
>>>>> mini-cd audio system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> TJB
>>>> BTW all HDMI plugs and cables support 8 channel audio. Where you may
>>>> be a little confused is that *not* all HDMI receivers will decode SACD
>>>> or that not all DVD players will output SACD via Analog or HDMI.
>>>>
>>>> It's hard I know ;-) Any way the good news is you will be pleased
>>>> with the Pioneer. Now go and beat up on some sales droid somewhere
>>>> and make him pass on his commission so you get a better deal :-))
>>>>
>>>> Cheers TT
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks for your input TT
>>> I hope to twist some arms soon. I am not in any hurry which is probably
>>> in my favour as electronic stuff generel gets cheaper as time goes by.
>>> The only chatch is if you wait too long it can fall of the face of the
>>> earth and the new model is twice as expensive and you need to wait all
>>> over again!!
>>>
>>> TJB
>>
>> Just as a matter of idle interest - HDMI V1.2a specifies AFAIK 8 channels
>> of LPCM audio can be carried over the connection, besides the obvious
>> video part.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>>
>>
> Coming in at the end of this, I can't recall if you discussed what your
> budget is, but in Sydney at least, I found 2 places today that were
> offering to sell the VSX-1016 significantly cheaper than list price.
>
> Domayne at Alexandria had it new for $1040, and Bing Lee had their floor
> model for $860. (Silver). NAPF at Summer Hill had their floor model for
> $876, so I'm guessing a lot of Pioneer is being discounted in preparation
> for new models. If you aren't stretching that far, it might be worth
> hunting around for somewhere with an 816 on display that might be prepared
> to knock it down to get it off the floor.
>
> regards
>
> Lee

I have to agree Lee. Getting a run out model and being at the right place
at the right time helps.
I recently picked up a Sony 52" Bravia X series LCD TV (KDL52X2000) for
$7300. Not bad for TV that retails for $9999.

Cheers,
Alan

[Ext User(Freddy T)]

Lee Heathershaw <hthrshw@yahoodotcomdotau> wrote in
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> Alan Rutlidge wrote:
>> "Freddy T" <removeAllCharacters@beforeSend> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9941CA5407D4AremoveAllCharacters@150.101.1 34.18...
>>> "TT" <TTencerNoSpAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in
>>> news:465d7f2b$1@quokka.wn.com.au:
>>>
>>>> "TJB" <2lazyToGet@one> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9940C9D088D95IDWhatID@150.101.134.18...
>>>>>>> I've just put both spec sheets up at the same time and compared
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> There is a lot more difference than just and extra digital input.
>>>>>> IMHO go for the 816 and find some Hardly Normal store somewhere
>>>>>> that will knock it down so far they prctically pay you to take it
>>>>>> away ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW the other things the 816 does: Has a USB & Optrical input on
>>>>>> the front, does 7.1, has pre-amp outs, coponent video switching
>>>>>> and more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again IMHO this is the very minimum spec machine anyone should
>>>>>> get. BTW If you go the next model up you will get HDMI switching
>>>>>> as well as upscaling. My mate has the 2016 and he raves about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers TT
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks TT
>>>>>
>>>>> The 816 is about all my budget will stretch to. I still need to
>>>>> buy speakers and active sub. The 2016 does have HDMI but I don't
>>>>> think it actually uses the HMDI audio, only providing 2 HDMI
>>>>> inputs to one output. Not that useful for me at the moment maybe
>>>>> in the future. By the time I get around to buying a widescreen set
>>>>> (they need to drop in price a lot more), they may offer a number
>>>>> of HDMI inputs making it even less attractive. The 2016 may have
>>>>> other features but I don't know how worthwhile they are. The price
>>>>> difference between the 816 and the 2016 is just too great. The
>>>>> 816/516 will also replace an old mini-cd audio system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> TJB
>>>> BTW all HDMI plugs and cables support 8 channel audio. Where you
>>>> may be a little confused is that *not* all HDMI receivers will
>>>> decode SACD or that not all DVD players will output SACD via Analog
>>>> or HDMI.
>>>>
>>>> It's hard I know ;-) Any way the good news is you will be pleased
>>>> with the Pioneer. Now go and beat up on some sales droid somewhere
>>>> and make him pass on his commission so you get a better deal :-))
>>>>
>>>> Cheers TT
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks for your input TT
>>> I hope to twist some arms soon. I am not in any hurry which is
>>> probably in my favour as electronic stuff generel gets cheaper as
>>> time goes by. The only chatch is if you wait too long it can fall of
>>> the face of the earth and the new model is twice as expensive and
>>> you need to wait all over again!!
>>>
>>> TJB
>>
>> Just as a matter of idle interest - HDMI V1.2a specifies AFAIK 8
>> channels of LPCM audio can be carried over the connection, besides
>> the obvious video part.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alan
>>
>>
> Coming in at the end of this, I can't recall if you discussed what
> your budget is, but in Sydney at least, I found 2 places today that
> were offering to sell the VSX-1016 significantly cheaper than list
> price.
>
> Domayne at Alexandria had it new for $1040, and Bing Lee had their
> floor model for $860. (Silver). NAPF at Summer Hill had their floor
> model for $876, so I'm guessing a lot of Pioneer is being discounted
> in preparation for new models. If you aren't stretching that far, it
> might be worth hunting around for somewhere with an 816 on display
> that might be prepared to knock it down to get it off the floor.
>
> regards
>
> Lee

Unfortunately that's still over my budget. I have seen the 816s around
the mid-$600 new in a box and the 516s for $400. If I buy the 816 then
add a sub and speakers which I haven't worked out any brands yet I will
probably have to go hungry for a week. :(

TJB

[Ext User(TJB)]

Freddy T <removeAllCharacters@beforeSend> wrote in
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> Lee Heathershaw <hthrshw@yahoodotcomdotau> wrote in
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>
>> Alan Rutlidge wrote:
>>> "Freddy T" <removeAllCharacters@beforeSend> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9941CA5407D4AremoveAllCharacters@150.101.1 34.18...
>>>> "TT" <TTencerNoSpAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in
>>>> news:465d7f2b$1@quokka.wn.com.au:
>>>>
>>>>> "TJB" <2lazyToGet@one> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns9940C9D088D95IDWhatID@150.101.134.18...
>>>>>>>> I've just put both spec sheets up at the same time and compared
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> There is a lot more difference than just and extra digital
>>>>>>> input. IMHO go for the 816 and find some Hardly Normal store
>>>>>>> somewhere that will knock it down so far they prctically pay you
>>>>>>> to take it away ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW the other things the 816 does: Has a USB & Optrical input on
>>>>>>> the front, does 7.1, has pre-amp outs, coponent video switching
>>>>>>> and more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again IMHO this is the very minimum spec machine anyone should
>>>>>>> get. BTW If you go the next model up you will get HDMI switching
>>>>>>> as well as upscaling. My mate has the 2016 and he raves about
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers TT
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks TT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 816 is about all my budget will stretch to. I still need to
>>>>>> buy speakers and active sub. The 2016 does have HDMI but I don't
>>>>>> think it actually uses the HMDI audio, only providing 2 HDMI
>>>>>> inputs to one output. Not that useful for me at the moment maybe
>>>>>> in the future. By the time I get around to buying a widescreen
>>>>>> set (they need to drop in price a lot more), they may offer a
>>>>>> number of HDMI inputs making it even less attractive. The 2016
>>>>>> may have other features but I don't know how worthwhile they are.
>>>>>> The price difference between the 816 and the 2016 is just too
>>>>>> great. The 816/516 will also replace an old mini-cd audio system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> TJB
>>>>> BTW all HDMI plugs and cables support 8 channel audio. Where you
>>>>> may be a little confused is that *not* all HDMI receivers will
>>>>> decode SACD or that not all DVD players will output SACD via
>>>>> Analog or HDMI.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's hard I know ;-) Any way the good news is you will be pleased
>>>>> with the Pioneer. Now go and beat up on some sales droid
>>>>> somewhere and make him pass on his commission so you get a better
>>>>> deal :-))
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers TT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your input TT
>>>> I hope to twist some arms soon. I am not in any hurry which is
>>>> probably in my favour as electronic stuff generel gets cheaper as
>>>> time goes by. The only chatch is if you wait too long it can fall
>>>> of the face of the earth and the new model is twice as expensive
>>>> and you need to wait all over again!!
>>>>
>>>> TJB
>>>
>>> Just as a matter of idle interest - HDMI V1.2a specifies AFAIK 8
>>> channels of LPCM audio can be carried over the connection, besides
>>> the obvious video part.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>> Coming in at the end of this, I can't recall if you discussed what
>> your budget is, but in Sydney at least, I found 2 places today that
>> were offering to sell the VSX-1016 significantly cheaper than list
>> price.
>>
>> Domayne at Alexandria had it new for $1040, and Bing Lee had their
>> floor model for $860. (Silver). NAPF at Summer Hill had their floor
>> model for $876, so I'm guessing a lot of Pioneer is being discounted
>> in preparation for new models. If you aren't stretching that far, it
>> might be worth hunting around for somewhere with an 816 on display
>> that might be prepared to knock it down to get it off the floor.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Lee
>
> Unfortunately that's still over my budget. I have seen the 816s around
> the mid-$600 new in a box and the 516s for $400. If I buy the 816 then
> add a sub and speakers which I haven't worked out any brands yet I
> will probably have to go hungry for a week. :(
>
> TJB

Arghh Just noticed that my house mate (Freddy the FATHEAD) has changed
the default newsreader settings again. No matter Fathead pays for the
connection, ha ha.

TJB