Motor bike riders

[Ext User(Clockmeister)]

A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane
highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple of
days ago.

Four waited until it was safe to overtake on the right and did so safely and
without excessive speed although they did not signal and they then formed a
two side by side formation. I was doing the speed limit and after they
overtook they also were doing the limit.

Three riders then undertook me to the left in the bicycle lane at excessive
speed even though there was a gap to the right just a little further up in
which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect them to come from
the left.

The last rider waited, signalled and then slowly overtook and I moved
slightly left to accomodate the move when I saw him signal his intention. He
acknowledged giving him extra room with a wave after overtaking and he
joined his friends.

I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders
a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them
did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.

[Ext User(Ron)]

"Clockmeister" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in
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> A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane
> highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a
> couple of days ago.
>
> Four waited until it was safe to overtake on the right and did so
> safely and without excessive speed although they did not signal and
> they then formed a two side by side formation. I was doing the speed
> limit and after they overtook they also were doing the limit.
>
> Three riders then undertook me to the left in the bicycle lane at
> excessive speed even though there was a gap to the right just a little
> further up in which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect
> them to come from the left.

That happens a lot in my area.
They obviously have a death wish.

> The last rider waited, signalled and then slowly overtook and I moved
> slightly left to accomodate the move when I saw him signal his
> intention. He acknowledged giving him extra room with a wave after
> overtaking and he joined his friends.

Must have been an 'older' rider :-)

> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle
> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly
> five of them did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.

Beats me..

Ron

[Ext User(John_H)]

Clockmeister wrote:
>
>I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders
>a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them
>did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.

I often wondered the same thing about all road users... until I
decided that the average road user is pretty damn stupid.

Then someone pointed out that half of the rest are even more stupid.

So there's your 3 out of 8! :))

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[Ext User(Clockmeister)]

"John Tserkezis" <jt@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote in message
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> Clockmeister wrote:
>
>> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle
>> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five
>> of them did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.
>
> We call them the one percenters. The one percent that are fuckwits that
> make it look bad for everyone else.
>
> Though in your experience they may have appeared to be more than 1%, mob
> mentality rules. When one does it, the others follow.
>

That did indeed appear to be the case though they are fuckwits just the same
in my book.

Hats off to the rider on the end though, wish more motorists were like him.

[Ext User(Marco)]

Clockmeister wrote:
>
> Three riders then undertook me to the left in the bicycle lane at excessive
> speed even though there was a gap to the right just a little further up in
> which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect them to come from
> the left.

Speaking of this sort of thing, I was more than a little surprised to
be undertaken in the breakdown lane of the Federal Highway (freeway-
standard road) a couple of weeks ago by an AU Falcon. On a double
demerit weekend, might I add.

Marco

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

"Clockmeister" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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>A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane highway
>with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple of days ago.
>
> Four waited until it was safe to overtake on the right and did so safely and
> without excessive speed although they did not signal and they then formed a
> two side by side formation. I was doing the speed limit and after they
> overtook they also were doing the limit.
>
> Three riders then undertook me to the left in the bicycle lane at excessive
> speed even though there was a gap to the right just a little further up in
> which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect them to come from
> the left.
>
> The last rider waited, signalled and then slowly overtook and I moved
> slightly left to accomodate the move when I saw him signal his intention. He
> acknowledged giving him extra room with a wave after overtaking and he joined
> his friends.
>
> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders a
> bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them did
> the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.

Because regardless of vehicle choice there are fuckwits everywhere. Thankfully
the fuckwits on bikes tend to solve the problem themselves in short order.

Fraser (whose bike didn't start today so he had to take the car to work.
Booooo!!!!!!!!!)

[Ext User(Albm&ctd)]

In article <137e6spagt7u40@corp.supernews.com>, whowhere@andwhy.com
says...
> A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane
> highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple of
> days ago.
>
> Four waited until it was safe to overtake on the right and did so safely and
> without excessive speed although they did not signal and they then formed a
> two side by side formation. I was doing the speed limit and after they
> overtook they also were doing the limit.
>
> Three riders then undertook me to the left in the bicycle lane at excessive
> speed even though there was a gap to the right just a little further up in
> which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect them to come from
> the left.
>
> The last rider waited, signalled and then slowly overtook and I moved
> slightly left to accomodate the move when I saw him signal his intention. He
> acknowledged giving him extra room with a wave after overtaking and he
> joined his friends.
>
> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders
> a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them
> did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.
>
I was on the bike one time (going to eastern creek) loaded with camping
gear and a young prick on a bike riding in a group undertook on a corner.
I was severely tempted to boot him off into the bushes.

Al
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[Ext User(John McKenzie)]

Clockmeister wrote:
>
> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders
> a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them
> did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.

Just a guess, but back when I had a life, and used to ride with a club
(crotch rockets, not tractors, I mean harleys) usually a couple of
experienced riders would be up front, and then the new blokes and one or
two experienced riders bringing up the rear. Tended to be safer and kept
the new blokes to a more sensible pace in the areas where it was twisty
or there was any traffic to speak of.

It'd fit, the 'idiots' were the newies, too stupid to wait and all
trying to one-up each other by passing quickly.

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[Ext User(Smeegol)]

John Tserkezis wrote:
> Clockmeister wrote:
>
>> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle
>> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly
>> five of them did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.
>
> We call them the one percenters. The one percent that are fuckwits
> that make it look bad for everyone else.
>
> Though in your experience they may have appeared to be more than 1%,
> mob mentality rules. When one does it, the others follow.
>
WRONG

1% ers are your bikies and outlaw type gang members.
Don't confuse the 2
You are thinking of Temporary citizens.

[Ext User(Toby_Ponsenby)]

Clockmeister blathered on in Re: Motor bike riders:

>
> "John Tserkezis" <jt@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote in message
> news:46772258$0$21465$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> Clockmeister wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle
>>> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five
>>> of them did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.
>>
>> We call them the one percenters. The one percent that are fuckwits that
>> make it look bad for everyone else.
>>
>> Though in your experience they may have appeared to be more than 1%, mob
>> mentality rules. When one does it, the others follow.
>>
>
> That did indeed appear to be the case though they are fuckwits just the same
> in my book.
>
> Hats off to the rider on the end though, wish more motorists were like him.
>
>
>
Probably the instructor.

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[Ext User(John McKenzie)]

Smeegol wrote:
>
> John Tserkezis wrote:
> > Clockmeister wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle
> >> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly
> >> five of them did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.
> >
> > We call them the one percenters. The one percent that are fuckwits
> > that make it look bad for everyone else.
> >
> > Though in your experience they may have appeared to be more than 1%,
> > mob mentality rules. When one does it, the others follow.
> >
> WRONG
>
> 1% ers are your bikies and outlaw type gang members.
> Don't confuse the 2
> You are thinking of Temporary citizens.

Actually you are both correct. The original poster's use of the term is
correct, and it's only after it was used negatively toward them that
certain motorcycle clubs started to use the term as one of endearment.

Although the two groups are by no means comparable, a similar thing
happened with our soldiers in libya in ww2. The german propoganda
broadcast (in english to attempt to demoralise the aussies) referred to
them as the pitiful 'rats' of tobruk, an allusion to their lack of
reinforcements/supply, and being outnumbered. They took to the new name
rather well, and cheekily referred to themselves thusly with a certain
sense of pride. And well deserved too.

Can we now get back to 4wds, shemales and schizophrenics with delusions
of a stable of ferraris?

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[Ext User(RainbowWarrior)]

"Clockmeister" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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>A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane
>highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple
>of days ago.
>
> Four waited until it was safe to overtake on the right and did so safely
> and without excessive speed although they did not signal and they then
> formed a two side by side formation. I was doing the speed limit and after
> they overtook they also were doing the limit.
>
> Three riders then undertook me to the left in the bicycle lane at
> excessive speed even though there was a gap to the right just a little
> further up in which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect
> them to come from the left.
>
> The last rider waited, signalled and then slowly overtook and I moved
> slightly left to accomodate the move when I saw him signal his intention.
> He acknowledged giving him extra room with a wave after overtaking and he
> joined his friends.
>
> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle
> riders a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five
> of them did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.

I was following a bike rider in traffic the other day for about 10km, he
didn't lane split, (gave him plenty of space off my bullbar) through
multiple sets of lights, it felt weird to be behind him, I nearly felt like
pulling over and letting someone else follow him, I can't recall ever
following a bike rider riding like you would drive a car for that long
before.
He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but with a
working muffler.

[Ext User(Patrick)]

RainbowWarrior wrote:

> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but with a
> working muffler.
>

Must be an aftermarket addition.


>

[Ext User(atec 77)]

Patrick wrote:
> RainbowWarrior wrote:
>
>> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but
>> with a working muffler.
>
> Must be an aftermarket addition.
>
>
>>
must be a japper

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

"RainbowWarrior" <emailaddress@tgr.fr> wrote in message
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> "Clockmeister" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
> news:137e6spagt7u40@corp.supernews.com...
>>A group of 8 bikers riding Jap road bikes overtook me on a single lane
>>highway with islands on the right and a bicycle lane on the left a couple of
>>days ago.
>>
>> Four waited until it was safe to overtake on the right and did so safely and
>> without excessive speed although they did not signal and they then formed a
>> two side by side formation. I was doing the speed limit and after they
>> overtook they also were doing the limit.
>>
>> Three riders then undertook me to the left in the bicycle lane at excessive
>> speed even though there was a gap to the right just a little further up in
>> which they could have safely overtaken. I did not expect them to come from
>> the left.
>>
>> The last rider waited, signalled and then slowly overtook and I moved
>> slightly left to accomodate the move when I saw him signal his intention. He
>> acknowledged giving him extra room with a wave after overtaking and he
>> joined his friends.
>>
>> I wonder why three out of the eight felt the need to give motorcycle riders
>> a bad name and place themselves at greater risk when clearly five of them
>> did the right thing, expecially the rider at the end.
>
> I was following a bike rider in traffic the other day for about 10km, he
> didn't lane split, (gave him plenty of space off my bullbar) through multiple
> sets of lights, it felt weird to be behind him, I nearly felt like pulling
> over and letting someone else follow him, I can't recall ever following a
> bike rider riding like you would drive a car for that long before.
> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but with a
> working muffler.

I ride like that. I only ever lanesplit stopped traffic if I know the light is
going to be red for a while.

Fraser

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

"Patrick" <doctorpat@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> RainbowWarrior wrote:
>
>> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but with a
>> working muffler.
>
> Must be an aftermarket addition.

Plently of harley looking jap bikes. All the big jap companies make them.

Fraser

[Ext User(ant)]

Patrick wrote:
> RainbowWarrior wrote:
>
>> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but
>> with a working muffler.
>>
>
> Must be an aftermarket addition.

chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation
harley".

I wonder if the cops are going to finally get the guts to take on the noisy
harleys, now that their bosses reckon they're going after their criminal
activities?

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"ant" <mrjideogundaremanager20@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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> chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation
> harley".

All Harleys come from the factory with quiet pipes.

The problem is that a lot of riders like them loud (I'm fucked if I know why
but they seem to), and as it takes all of ten minutes to change the pipes
it's a pretty simple affair to get around the law. One of the blokes I know
has what is probably the loudest HD I've ever heard, and he gets pinched for
it all the time. The coppers book him for a noise violation and order him to
present the bike for an EPA test.

He simply goes home, throws on his "quiet" pipes, passes the test and rides
straight home to put his loud pipes back on.

I imagine he's not the only one who does this either.

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[Ext User(atec 77)]

ant wrote:
> Patrick wrote:
>> RainbowWarrior wrote:
>>
>>> He was a mature aged rider, riding something a bit Harley like but
>>> with a working muffler.
>>>
>> Must be an aftermarket addition.
>
> chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation
> harley".
>
> I wonder if the cops are going to finally get the guts to take on the noisy
> harleys, now that their bosses reckon they're going after their criminal
> activities?
>
Nah , local angels had a "little" meeting on the weekend , only about
400 bikes showed , local police station had 3 whole blues in attendance
.... I can see it now .

[Ext User(ant)]

Noddy wrote:
> "ant" <mrjideogundaremanager20@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
> news:5dud8qF3624r7U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>> chuckle! I was about to say "must hvae been broken, or an immitation
>> harley".
>
> All Harleys come from the factory with quiet pipes.
>
> The problem is that a lot of riders like them loud (I'm fucked if I
> know why but they seem to), and as it takes all of ten minutes to
> change the pipes it's a pretty simple affair to get around the law.
> One of the blokes I know has what is probably the loudest HD I've
> ever heard, and he gets pinched for it all the time. The coppers book
> him for a noise violation and order him to present the bike for an
> EPA test.
> He simply goes home, throws on his "quiet" pipes, passes the test and
> rides straight home to put his loud pipes back on.
>
> I imagine he's not the only one who does this either.

Why can't they fine them every time they do it? I'm getting tired of them,
there's so many and they're so bloody loud it hurts. My car has a rubber
roof, which makes the noise worse than inside the average car, I guess. plus
the racket pollutes living areas too. I really hate them.

If someone's booked for a noise violation repeatedly, surely they can do
something about it?

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