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Ext User(OzDuDe)
09-07-2007, 10:23 PM
I couldn't believe what I was reading in in Monday's Guide/Icon (SMH Monday,
09.07.07)

Article by Bill Bennett and Simon Tsang:

On page 8 of The Guide (article: Sharp End Of The Stick) we have this
information:

"....The whole cycle repeats 60 times a second. With interlaced scanning,
every second line is refreshed 60 times so the whole picture is refreshed
only 30 times per second..." Gee, you could have fooled me guys. I guess
channels convert US/ATSC 1080i/60 to DVB 1080i/50 at massive expense just
because they can?

Bzzt!!!!!! It's 50Hz in this country and in the UK and most other DVB
countries which by my calculations is 50f/50f for progressive and 50f/25f
for interlace.

and then we have this:

"Australian broadcasters are commonly sending out digital signals at 480i,
480p and 576p resolutions."

What?! I thought (and it has never been 480 anything apart from limited non
public ATSC trials before we chose COFDM DVB-T) it was either 576i (SD),
576p (ED) and 720p, 1080i (HD). Correct me if I'm wrong please. All at 50Hz.

Then the editor really drops it on page 9 in the side bar "What Do I Need To
Get HDTV?" "To live in the right place - this includes all metropolitan
areas. To check, see www.db.org.au."

Erm....we're missing an "a" after "db" there aren't we?

And all of this in article explaing HD Digital TV to non-technical people.
The mis-informed leading the blind, I say.

Tsk, tsk.

Oz

Ext User(Gilgamesh)
09-07-2007, 10:33 PM
"OzDuDe" <ivsmith11@hitmail.com> wrote in message
news:4691ee23$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>I couldn't believe what I was reading in in Monday's Guide/Icon (SMH
>Monday, 09.07.07)
>
> Article by Bill Bennett and Simon Tsang:
>
> On page 8 of The Guide (article: Sharp End Of The Stick) we have this
> information:
>
> "....The whole cycle repeats 60 times a second. With interlaced scanning,
> every second line is refreshed 60 times so the whole picture is refreshed
> only 30 times per second..." Gee, you could have fooled me guys. I guess
> channels convert US/ATSC 1080i/60 to DVB 1080i/50 at massive expense just
> because they can?
>
> Bzzt!!!!!! It's 50Hz in this country and in the UK and most other DVB
> countries which by my calculations is 50f/50f for progressive and 50f/25f
> for interlace.
>
> and then we have this:
>
> "Australian broadcasters are commonly sending out digital signals at 480i,
> 480p and 576p resolutions."
>
> What?! I thought (and it has never been 480 anything apart from limited
> non public ATSC trials before we chose COFDM DVB-T) it was either 576i
> (SD), 576p (ED) and 720p, 1080i (HD). Correct me if I'm wrong please. All
> at 50Hz.
>
> Then the editor really drops it on page 9 in the side bar "What Do I Need
> To Get HDTV?" "To live in the right place - this includes all metropolitan
> areas. To check, see www.db.org.au."
>
> Erm....we're missing an "a" after "db" there aren't we?
>
> And all of this in article explaing HD Digital TV to non-technical people.
> The mis-informed leading the blind, I say.
>
> Tsk, tsk.
>
> Oz
>


It seems to me that research-by-google has replaced real investigations that
are relevant to this country

Ext User(D'grooter)
09-07-2007, 10:33 PM
<snip>
>
>
> It seems to me that research-by-google has replaced real investigations
> that are relevant to this country
>
>

Maybe so, I remember the same old 480i mis-information in a so called tech
writeup (Connect?) in a Murdoch - let's slip in another reference to
Foxtel- Sunday rag about a year ago.

BTW, when are said rags going to start including ABC2 in their TV guides?




Keith
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The intelligent man wins his battles with pointed words. I'm sorry -- I
meant sticks. Pointed sticks.- Homer Simpson

Ext User(Anthony Horan)
10-07-2007, 06:03 PM
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:32:36 +0800, D'grooter wrote:

> BTW, when are said rags going to start including ABC2 in their TV guides?

Perhaps when they stop believing in the fiction that the ABC is a TV
network for "lefties"? :-D

Ext User(Bob Bain)
12-07-2007, 01:53 AM
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:32:36 +0800, "D'grooter" <doogie@noreply.howser>
wrote:

>BTW, when are said rags going to start including ABC2 in their TV guides?

I believe the TV guide section of "The Australian" does.

Most of the others seem to prefer to clutter the pages with guides to
Foxtel channels.