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Ext User(thegoons)
09-08-2007, 12:23 PM
"Alan Parkington" <aparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote in message
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>8 August 2007
>
> The decision by the Minister for Communications, Helen Coonan, to issue
> Telstra with a draft licence condition will make no difference to the
> scheduled closure date of the CDMA network according to Executive Managing
> Director Wireless, John Gonner.
>

How appropriate, his name. He's Gonner fix it soon?

> "The Next GT network is Australia's largest and fastest national mobile
> network. We have complete confidence the performance of the network will
> be equal to or better than the old CDMA network before it closes in
> January 2008," John said.


In that case Telstra should have nothing to worry about.


>
> "The facts speak for themselves:
>
> a.. The Next GT network has in excess of 2000 more base stations than
> the CDMA network;

Mostly in metropolitan areas fuckwit.

> b.. The Next GT network's coverage footprint now exceeds 2 million km2
> (comparative size for CDMA 1.6 M km2 and AMPS 650,000 km2)

Bullshit, based on number of unhappy consumers.

> c.. Telstra already offers more than 400,000 km2 more coverage with the
> Next GT network"
> "Our public commitment has always been the Next GT network would be the
> same or better by the end of this year, but we expect final adjustments
> will be completed by mid October, more than two months ahead of that
> schedule," John said.
>

Why are you already 2 months behind schedule? You have told the government
that you are not ready to be audited yet until after October.

> "The Minister's action is puzzling based on feedback from MPs to date. We
> have asked them to supply details of customers in their electorates that
> are having issues so that we can respond, and very few have been provided.
> We have also invited members of Parliament to join us on drive surveys so
> they can experience how Next GT coverage compares to CDMA and at this
> stage only 5 have accepted."
>
> TCW Group Managing Director, Geoff Booth says the Government can impose a
> licence condition but it makes no difference to Telstra - Next GT coverage
> will be same or better than CDMA because that's our commitment to our
> customers.
>
> Responding to the Government's establishment of a 1800 number to take Next
> GT network complaints, Geoff said this was also unnecessary as Telstra had
> its own customer service lines where customers could actually fix problems
> they might be experiencing.

Bullshit. I have submitted blackspot reports via telephone and web in the
past, with absolutely no action forthcoming and no feedback provided. The
government knows that Telstra call centres try to fob-off callers unless
they can make a sale, and hence they have taken their own independent
action. If there is nothing wrong with Telstra's Next-G network, then it
shouldn;t matter as they will receive no complaints on this new number? lol
>
> "It's an unnecessary link in the chain - if customers have an issue they
> need to tell us directly so we can take whatever action is necessary to
> resolve their issue."
>
> Geoff said he hoped that the Minister's latest press release was not an
> effort to politicise the single most important and beneficial
> telecommunications infrastructure investment that had been made in the
> last decade.

Hey Geoff - maybe if you boss Sol hadn't pissed the government off so much,
then they would be a little more co-operative. Constant belly-aching and
whinging about regulation, insults against Howard, Coonan and ACCC, and then
taking the Minister to court certainly aint helping the situation.

>
> "If the Government now wants to take a backward looking view, rather than
> looking to the future of this nation, that would be disturbing to Telstra,
> its shareholders and its customers."
>
>
Telstra is a backward looking monolith, slowly becoming a wholesaler-only
due to poor service and ridiculous pricing.



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Ext User(Rod Speed)
09-08-2007, 01:13 PM
thegoons <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "Alan Parkington" <aparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote in message
> news:Ktjui.17205$4A1.2376@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> 8 August 2007
>>
>> The decision by the Minister for Communications, Helen Coonan, to
>> issue Telstra with a draft licence condition will make no difference
>> to the scheduled closure date of the CDMA network according to
>> Executive Managing Director Wireless, John Gonner.
>>
>
> How appropriate, his name. He's Gonner fix it soon?
>
>> "The Next GT network is Australia's largest and fastest national
>> mobile network. We have complete confidence the performance of the
>> network will be equal to or better than the old CDMA network before
>> it closes in January 2008," John said.
>
>
> In that case Telstra should have nothing to worry about.
>
>
>>
>> "The facts speak for themselves:
>>
>> a.. The Next GT network has in excess of 2000 more base stations
>> than the CDMA network;
>
> Mostly in metropolitan areas fuckwit.
>
>> b.. The Next GT network's coverage footprint now exceeds 2
>> million km2 (comparative size for CDMA 1.6 M km2 and AMPS 650,000
>> km2)
>
> Bullshit, based on number of unhappy consumers.
>
>> c.. Telstra already offers more than 400,000 km2 more coverage
>> with the Next GT network"
>> "Our public commitment has always been the Next GT network would be
>> the same or better by the end of this year, but we expect final
>> adjustments will be completed by mid October, more than two months
>> ahead of that schedule," John said.
>>
>
> Why are you already 2 months behind schedule? You have told the
> government that you are not ready to be audited yet until after
> October.
>> "The Minister's action is puzzling based on feedback from MPs to
>> date. We have asked them to supply details of customers in their
>> electorates that are having issues so that we can respond, and very
>> few have been provided. We have also invited members of Parliament
>> to join us on drive surveys so they can experience how Next GT
>> coverage compares to CDMA and at this stage only 5 have accepted."
>>
>> TCW Group Managing Director, Geoff Booth says the Government can
>> impose a licence condition but it makes no difference to Telstra -
>> Next GT coverage will be same or better than CDMA because that's our
>> commitment to our customers.
>>
>> Responding to the Government's establishment of a 1800 number to
>> take Next GT network complaints, Geoff said this was also
>> unnecessary as Telstra had its own customer service lines where
>> customers could actually fix problems they might be experiencing.
>
> Bullshit. I have submitted blackspot reports via telephone and web in
> the past, with absolutely no action forthcoming and no feedback
> provided. The government knows that Telstra call centres try to
> fob-off callers unless they can make a sale, and hence they have
> taken their own independent action. If there is nothing wrong with
> Telstra's Next-G network, then it shouldn;t matter as they will
> receive no complaints on this new number? lol
>>
>> "It's an unnecessary link in the chain - if customers have an issue
>> they need to tell us directly so we can take whatever action is
>> necessary to resolve their issue."
>>
>> Geoff said he hoped that the Minister's latest press release was not
>> an effort to politicise the single most important and beneficial
>> telecommunications infrastructure investment that had been made in
>> the last decade.
>
> Hey Geoff - maybe if you boss Sol hadn't pissed the government off so
> much, then they would be a little more co-operative. Constant
> belly-aching and whinging about regulation, insults against Howard,
> Coonan and ACCC, and then taking the Minister to court certainly aint
> helping the situation.
>>
>> "If the Government now wants to take a backward looking view,
>> rather than looking to the future of this nation, that would be
>> disturbing to Telstra, its shareholders and its customers."

> Telstra is a backward looking monolith,

Mindless stuff. The NextG system aint backwards looking, fuckwit.

> slowly becoming a wholesaler-

More mindless pig ignorant silly stuff. They actually wholesale
their mobile system much less than their competitors do, fuckwit.

> only due to poor service and ridiculous pricing.

Have fun explaining why there is fuck all telstra mobile wholesaling.

Ext User(Michael J)
09-08-2007, 01:33 PM
"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Alan Parkington" <aparkington@team.telstra.com> wrote in message
> news:Ktjui.17205$4A1.2376@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>8 August 2007
>>
>> The decision by the Minister for Communications, Helen Coonan, to issue
>> Telstra with a draft licence condition will make no difference to the
>> scheduled closure date of the CDMA network according to Executive
>> Managing Director Wireless, John Gonner.
>>
>
> How appropriate, his name. He's Gonner fix it soon?

LOL

>> "The facts speak for themselves:
>>
>> a.. The Next GT network has in excess of 2000 more base stations than
>> the CDMA network;
>
> Mostly in metropolitan areas fuckwit.

Nope, obviously mostly in country areas.

I don't see any large "metropolitan" areas that had NO CDMA coverage and now
have NextG coverage, fuckwit.

Go read the coverage maps

>> b.. The Next GT network's coverage footprint now exceeds 2 million km2
>> (comparative size for CDMA 1.6 M km2 and AMPS 650,000 km2)
>
> Bullshit, based on number of unhappy consumers.

Huh?

These are coverage amounts, nothing to do with customers

Therre are already 2m 3G customers on Telstra, mostly on NextG. This is more
than CDMA EVER had.

>> c.. Telstra already offers more than 400,000 km2 more coverage with
>> the Next GT network"
>> "Our public commitment has always been the Next GT network would be the
>> same or better by the end of this year, but we expect final adjustments
>> will be completed by mid October, more than two months ahead of that
>> schedule," John said.
>>
> Why are you already 2 months behind schedule? You have told the government
> that you are not ready to be audited yet until after October.

Of course you cant be audited until the final build is completed. Idiot.

>> Responding to the Government's establishment of a 1800 number to take
>> Next GT network complaints, Geoff said this was also unnecessary as
>> Telstra had its own customer service lines where customers could actually
>> fix problems they might be experiencing.
>
> Bullshit. I have submitted blackspot reports via telephone and web in the
> past, with absolutely no action forthcoming and no feedback provided. The

You dont require individual feedback.

Each of those locations is plotted in a Telstra database for future coverage
upgrades.

They've been plotting like that since at least 2000. Used to be done in
CARMAN but I dont think they use that anymore

Then, when they get more funds, they use YOUR feedback to determine the best
areas to receive upgrades

> government knows that Telstra call centres try to fob-off callers unless
> they can make a sale, and hence they have taken their own independent

Crap

Mobile faults now go to a SINGLE call centre which ONLY DEALS WITH MOBILE
FAULTS.

That being Stellar Adelaide and Service Advantage Townsville for After
Hours.

Service Advantage, dick, thats the FAULTS arm of Telstra

> Telstra is a backward looking monolith, slowly becoming a wholesaler-only
> due to poor service and ridiculous pricing.

NextG isnt resold, so they are moving EXACTLY in the opposite direction you
are suggesting.

You've got your glasses on upside down
>
>
>
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>

Ext User(Two Bob)
09-08-2007, 10:33 PM
> Mobile faults now go to a "SINGLE" call centre
> which ONLY DEALS WITH MOBILE FAULTS.
>
> That being Stellar "Adelaide" and Service Advantage
> "Townsville" for After Hours.

Ext User(Lance Lyon)
10-08-2007, 12:03 AM
"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Therre are already 2m 3G customers on Telstra, mostly on NextG. This is
> more than CDMA EVER had.

Yep & most of those are the free phones they gave to staff at the launch of
the service!

cheers,

Lance


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Ext User(thegoons)
10-08-2007, 02:52 AM
"Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Mobile faults now go to a SINGLE call centre which ONLY DEALS WITH MOBILE
> FAULTS.
>
> That being Stellar Adelaide and Service Advantage Townsville for After
> Hours.
>
> Service Advantage, dick, thats the FAULTS arm of Telstra
>
lol looks real professional: http://www.servad.com/




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Ext User(Lance Lyon)
10-08-2007, 10:13 AM
"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:qksui.17298$4A1.8838@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>>
>> Mobile faults now go to a SINGLE call centre which ONLY DEALS WITH MOBILE
>> FAULTS.
>>
>> That being Stellar Adelaide and Service Advantage Townsville for After
>> Hours.
>>
>> Service Advantage, dick, thats the FAULTS arm of Telstra

> lol looks real professional: http://www.servad.com/

That has nothing to do with the Telstra internal BU called "Service
Advantage"...... do try & get your facts straight before posting.

cheers,

Lance


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Ext User(thegoons)
10-08-2007, 12:23 PM
"Lance Lyon" <llyon@landover.NOSPAM.no-ip.com> wrote in message
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>
> "thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:46baff34$0$8096$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>
>> "Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:qksui.17298$4A1.8838@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>>
>>> Mobile faults now go to a SINGLE call centre which ONLY DEALS WITH
>>> MOBILE FAULTS.
>>>
>>> That being Stellar Adelaide and Service Advantage Townsville for After
>>> Hours.
>>>
>>> Service Advantage, dick, thats the FAULTS arm of Telstra
>
>> lol looks real professional: http://www.servad.com/
>
> That has nothing to do with the Telstra internal BU called "Service
> Advantage"...... do try & get your facts straight before posting.
>
> cheers,
>
> Lance
>

You get that when organisations set up internal BUs with such ridiculous
names. Anyway Telstra is incredibly useless and impossible to get action
from

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Ext User(Paul Day)
10-08-2007, 02:53 PM
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:28:22 GMT in aus.comms.mobile Michael J may have written:
> I don't see any large "metropolitan" areas that had NO CDMA coverage and now
> have NextG coverage, fuckwit.

I do.

> Go read the coverage maps

Coverage maps don't show in-building microcells within larger cells that
give you reception inside massive shopping centres, down in carparks or
underground train stations. There _are_ new NextG cells in the metro
area where there was/is no CDMA. eg, down the bottom of Melbourne
Central train station.

PD

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Ext User(Michael J)
10-08-2007, 11:23 PM
"Lance Lyon" <llyon@landover.NOSPAM.no-ip.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael J" <michael@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:qksui.17298$4A1.8838@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> Therre are already 2m 3G customers on Telstra, mostly on NextG. This is
>> more than CDMA EVER had.
>
> Yep & most of those are the free phones they gave to staff at the launch
> of the service!

What free phones? hardly!
>
> cheers,
>
> Lance
>
>
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