Helen Coonan on Digital TV

[Ext User(Martin Barr-David)]

she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News
Australia Communication debate.

[Ext User(gonesailing_gonefishing)]

On Nov 16, 4:22 pm, Martin Barr-David <mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News
> Australia Communication debate.

Smells like complete bullshit.

[Ext User(John Tserkezis)]

Martin Barr-David wrote:

> she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News
> Australia Communication debate.

Does she plan on a phase-out of SD broadcasts to "encourage" the purchase of
HD capable receivers over SD-only?
Might be at useful to tell us that if something is HD only, you're not going
to see unless your box is HD capable at downconverting at least.


Or am I missing something, much like the farce during the introduction of
digital terrestrial?
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[Ext User(DTVAUST)]

On Nov 16, 6:36 pm, John Tserkezis
<j...@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:
> Martin Barr-David wrote:
> > she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News
> > Australia Communication debate.
>
> Does she plan on a phase-out of SD broadcasts to "encourage" the purchase of
> HD capable receivers over SD-only?
> Might be at useful to tell us that if something is HD only, you're not going
> to see unless your box is HD capable at downconverting at least.
>
> Or am I missing something, much like the farce during the introduction of
> digital terrestrial?
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Don't you think she means analogue???

[Ext User(John Tserkezis)]

DTVAUST wrote:

>> Or am I missing something, much like the farce during the introduction of
>> digital terrestrial?

> Don't you think she means analogue???

No, the analogue debate has been and gone.

As I understand it, since SD-only receivers exist, and are common, any HD
broadcasts (if they're not simultaneously broadcast on SD) won't be seen by
those SD only boxes.

In other words, the "system" isn't inherently backward-compatible. It might
be if HD-capable boxes were the only ones being sold, but that's certainly not
the case.
A workaround is if they doubled up on HD programming with an equivalent SD
broadcast (no idea if this is happening though).

I'm doing what most of the country is going to do. Wait till the analogue
plug is REALLY pulled before shopping for digital.



Personally (just my opinion) HD is a waste of time and bandwidth. I'm
watching on a retired ex-CCTV 12" monitor with nice phosphor burns. At times,
you can make out the hallway and lift doors. Nice.

That's plenty good enough within my perspective, because I don't know about
anyone else, but free-to air programming is crap. And cable has more channels
of crap to choose from, that I don't have time for anyway.

So why would I want to pay more money for equipment and resources for crap
in high definition?

Audio is just a lost cause. I'm half deaf, so 5.1 really isn't going to
sway me either.
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[Ext User(vavud)]

Helen Coonan is a coont!
"Martin Barr-David" <martbd@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:473d374e$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News Australia
> Communication debate.

[Ext User(Netmask)]

"Martin Barr-David" <martbd@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:473d374e$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News Australia
> Communication debate.

I think she has been misreported or someone needs a hearing aid.

"The Americans have a very different approach to digital television with a
fixed analog switch off date, 17 February 2009. "

[Ext User(ant)]

John Tserkezis wrote:

> I'm doing what most of the country is going to do. Wait till the
> analogue plug is REALLY pulled before shopping for digital.

Bloody oath, me too. My analogue works just fine, thank 'ee.

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[Ext User(Big LN)]

How long's this abo tv channel been going?
Just been watching some good shows on it.

'Onya

[Ext User(zazazo@linuxmail.org)]

On Nov 16, 10:22 pm, "Big LN" <Big...@this.ng> wrote:
> How long's this abo tv channel been going?
> Just been watching some good shows on it.
>
> 'Onya


Since 1st of November.

[Ext User(Big LN)]

<zazazo@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:ce381eee-d98e-4de2-b81f-736ca531a5d0@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 16, 10:22 pm, "Big LN" <Big...@this.ng> wrote:
>> How long's this abo tv channel been going?
>> Just been watching some good shows on it.
>>
>> 'Onya
>
>
> Since 1st of November.

Cool. Thanks.

'Onya

[Ext User(son of a bitch)]

Martin Barr-David wrote:
> she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News
> Australia Communication debate.

That's odd, how can she turn it off,
she's only going to be employed for another 8 days

[Ext User(Barrabas)]

ant wrote:
> John Tserkezis wrote:
>
>> I'm doing what most of the country is going to do. Wait till the
>> analogue plug is REALLY pulled before shopping for digital.
>
> Bloody oath, me too. My analogue works just fine, thank 'ee.
>

My analogue reception has been getting mysteriously worse over the past
few years. I have a digital tv tuner for a laptop that cost $109,
tinyUSB. I like being able to record tv shows on a computer.
Expect to buy any more digital equipment when I can be sure a digital
tuner is included in a recorder, or is available in the budget ones anyway.

[Ext User(Becko)]

"vavud" <francoisculo@hitmail.com> wrote in message
news:473d705d@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Helen Coonan is a coont!
> "Martin Barr-David" <martbd@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:473d374e$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News
>> Australia Communication debate.
>
>
Thanks for the mature opinion...

Idiot

[Ext User(Martin Barr-David)]

John Tserkezis wrote:
> DTVAUST wrote:
>
>>> Or am I missing something, much like the farce during the
>>> introduction of
>>> digital terrestrial?
>
>> Don't you think she means analogue???
>
> No, the analogue debate has been and gone.
>
> As I understand it, since SD-only receivers exist, and are common, any
> HD broadcasts (if they're not simultaneously broadcast on SD) won't be
> seen by those SD only boxes.
>
> In other words, the "system" isn't inherently backward-compatible. It
> might be if HD-capable boxes were the only ones being sold, but that's
> certainly not the case.
> A workaround is if they doubled up on HD programming with an equivalent
> SD broadcast (no idea if this is happening though).
>
> I'm doing what most of the country is going to do. Wait till the
> analogue plug is REALLY pulled before shopping for digital.
>
>
>
> Personally (just my opinion) HD is a waste of time and bandwidth. I'm
> watching on a retired ex-CCTV 12" monitor with nice phosphor burns. At
> times, you can make out the hallway and lift doors. Nice.
>
> That's plenty good enough within my perspective, because I don't know
> about anyone else, but free-to air programming is crap. And cable has
> more channels of crap to choose from, that I don't have time for anyway.
>
> So why would I want to pay more money for equipment and resources for
> crap in high definition?
>
> Audio is just a lost cause. I'm half deaf, so 5.1 really isn't going
> to sway me either.
I think she meant PAL aka analogue TV

[Ext User(Martin Barr-David)]

Netmask wrote:
> "Martin Barr-David" <martbd@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:473d374e$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News Australia
>> Communication debate.
>
> I think she has been misreported or someone needs a hearing aid.
>
> "The Americans have a very different approach to digital television with a
> fixed analog switch off date, 17 February 2009. "
>
>
she definitely said something along those lines when she and her shadow
were debating the digital TV landscape, but I think she meant analogue
she off to occur within 3 years.

[Ext User(Martin Barr-David)]

Big LN wrote:
> <zazazo@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> news:ce381eee-d98e-4de2-b81f-736ca531a5d0@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 16, 10:22 pm, "Big LN" <Big...@this.ng> wrote:
>>> How long's this abo tv channel been going?
>>> Just been watching some good shows on it.
>>>
>>> 'Onya
>>
>> Since 1st of November.
>
> Cool. Thanks.
>
> 'Onya
>
>
I think has been since July in the Imparja TV viewing are since July 1
of this year. That November 1 date was for for Foxtel, Optus and Austar
viewers to join in.

[Ext User(Martin Barr-David)]

son of a bitch wrote:
> Martin Barr-David wrote:
>> she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News
>> Australia Communication debate.
>
> That's odd, how can she turn it off,
> she's only going to be employed for another 8 days
I think she's loosing her marbles like the rest of those old
fuddy-duddies which are part that government which has past it's prime
and should pensioned off or placed in the nearest wheelie bin.

[Ext User(Anthony Barnett)]

"Martin Barr-David" <martbd@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:473dbbbe$0$21737$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Netmask wrote:
> > "Martin Barr-David" <martbd@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:473d374e$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> >> she plans to switch off digital TV by 2009 according to Sky News
Australia
> >> Communication debate.
> >
> > I think she has been misreported or someone needs a hearing aid.
> >
> > "The Americans have a very different approach to digital television with
a
> > fixed analog switch off date, 17 February 2009. "
> >
> >
> she definitely said something along those lines when she and her shadow
> were debating the digital TV landscape, but I think she meant analogue
> she off to occur within 3 years.

Why don't we wait until after November 24th to see whether she will have the
power to do anything!

Anthony Barnett

[Ext User(John Tserkezis)]

Martin Barr-David wrote:

> I think she meant PAL aka analogue TV

I don't think so. PAL is just one of the many colour standards
"piggybacked" onto a composite video stream. It is still used, and will
continue to be used way after analogue TV is dead.

The _technical_ details and ramifications of the PAL (and its flavours) will
become more or less a moot point in the future, because the composite and
colour encoding transmission standards were designed around the (still
current) analogue TV standards (which won't apply after it's shut down)

It will continue to be used however, more because it's a standard, and thus
supports backwards compatibility to just about any monitor.

More especially now than far into the future, because you're NEVER going to
tell people in 2009 they're going to have to buy a new TV or monitor with an
associated digital video input, because the set top box they bought two days
ago does not have a composite PAL output to suit their 'current' monitor.
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