Ten Perth's EPG

[Ext User(rebel)]

Has that dropped? For the last few days I get a "no service" on the 10EPG
channel.

[Ext User(Bob Bain)]

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:49:48 +0800, rebel <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>Has that dropped? For the last few days I get a "no service" on the 10EPG
>channel.

There is no service on the 10EPG channel in Sydney.

(That is Channel 11).

The channels appear to be populating their 'with the channel" EPGs
guides with something approaching a full day's worth of program
information - although it is somewhat patchy - so if you have a device
that can pull in more than "now and next" you may get a listing of
programs for that day (at least).

I would suggest that Channel 11 has been dropped deliberately.

BTW: The ALP have indicated that if elected they propose December
2013 as the "turn off" date for analogue televsion.

[Ext User(Bob Bain)]

> BTW: The ALP have indicated that if elected they propose December
>2013 as the "turn off" date for analogue televsion.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22805687-7582,00.html

Viewers not switched on to HD
Nick Tabakoff - November 23, 2007

FREE-to-air networks still had work to do in convincing consumers of
the benefits of digital television, Ten Network television operations
head Grant Blackley said yesterday.

His comments came as the man who could become Australia's next
communications minister, Stephen Conroy, said he would commit to a
December 2013 switch-off of analogue television if a Rudd Labor
government was elected tomorrow.

[Ext User(Greg)]

Sme here in Sydney. 10's EPG channel remains blank and has so for the last
week or so.

"rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:bf8dk3tplrmbeog5v5hns2tioi42chef56@4ax.com...
> Has that dropped? For the last few days I get a "no service" on the 10EPG
> channel.

[Ext User(davmel)]

Greg wrote:
> Sme here in Sydney. 10's EPG channel remains blank and has so for the last
> week or so.
>
> "rebel" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:bf8dk3tplrmbeog5v5hns2tioi42chef56@4ax.com...
>> Has that dropped? For the last few days I get a "no service" on the 10EPG
>> channel.

I think you mean the VPG channel, not the EIT EPG feed which is now active.
The VPG is no more. It was removed from the multiplex at the same time
that the EIT EPG data was activated to allow programming info for the
next 7+ days to be available so the VPG was no longer of any use.
Do a rescan to get rid of all the old LCN channel numbers.
There are now only 2 actual video streams - the SD channel and the HD
channel.
LCN 10 points to the SD channel.
LCN 1 & 12 point to the HD channel.

All the other LCN's (11 and 100) are gone.

[Ext User(Marts)]

Bob Bain wrote...

> FREE-to-air networks still had work to do in convincing consumers of
> the benefits of digital television, Ten Network television operations
> head Grant Blackley said yesterday.

What benefits, other than say, widescreen picture formats? The only real benefit
is HD, and while televisions and STBs that support HD are still expensive,
particularly when trivial household expenses such as mortgage payments, rocking
fuel prices and ever increasing utlities expenses, then you're not going to see
too many consumers waste their money on something that doesn't have any real
benefits.

> His comments came as the man who could become Australia's next
> communications minister, Stephen Conroy, said he would commit to a
> December 2013 switch-off of analogue television if a Rudd Labor
> government was elected tomorrow.

It's gonna take that long to convince all Australians to convert. And who knows,
by then we may not be able to afford to watch FTA, let alone anything HD....

[Ext User(Mahatma Kote)]

On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:47:41 +1100, Marts <marts_57@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>Bob Bain wrote...
>
>> FREE-to-air networks still had work to do in convincing consumers of
>> the benefits of digital television, Ten Network television operations
>> head Grant Blackley said yesterday.
>
>What benefits, other than say, widescreen picture formats? The only real benefit
>is HD,

Well no. Not quite true. I bought my first STB because the local
reception was lousy with ABC being unwatchable due to power line
interference from a pole transformer in the street which is faulty
(and the power company admits this but refuses to replace it due to
cost). Digital reception is excellent. That is a good enough reason
for me and I can't be alone in this surely?

Mahatma Kote
--
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped."

[Ext User(Marts)]

Mahatma Kote wrote...

> >What benefits, other than say, widescreen picture formats? The only real benefit
> >is HD,
>
> Well no. Not quite true. I bought my first STB because the local
> reception was lousy with ABC being unwatchable due to power line

That's a point. I've not experienced this myself, and I'd surmise that for the
general population it may not be an issue, not if present analog reception is
good.

I can't tell the diff between the analog signal and the digital one, other than
one has EPGs, widescreen, while the other doesn't.

> interference from a pole transformer in the street which is faulty

What's the fault with it? Generally, transformers either work or they don't. If
it's a faulty connection and it's arcing then you'd see this in dropped voltage
levels, and that is something that it would have to fix. Otherwise no-one would
be getting a clean power supply and hence malfunctioning appliances, flickering
lights, etc..

> (and the power company admits this but refuses to replace it due to
> cost).

Electricity supply ombudsman or government authority in your state should be
able to help, particularly if you do a letter drop in your street to encourage
others to complain.

[Ext User(rebel)]

On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:10:46 +1100, Marts <marts_57@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>Mahatma Kote wrote...
>
>> >What benefits, other than say, widescreen picture formats? The only real benefit
>> >is HD,
>>
>> Well no. Not quite true. I bought my first STB because the local
>> reception was lousy with ABC being unwatchable due to power line
>
>That's a point. I've not experienced this myself, and I'd surmise that for the
>general population it may not be an issue, not if present analog reception is
>good.
>
>I can't tell the diff between the analog signal and the digital one, other than
>one has EPGs, widescreen, while the other doesn't.

Where I live the major masts encompass about 100 degrees of arc, and average 2km
or less distance from me. So there is no "right" direction to point an antenna
and not even a "best". I have major analog ghosting issues. An el-cheapo SDSTB
fixed that in spades.

[Ext User(David Wilson)]

On Dec 4, 3:17 pm, dingdongda...@dumas.com (Mahatma Kote) wrote:
> Well no. Not quite true. I bought my first STB because the local
> reception was lousy with ABC being unwatchable due to power line
> interference from a pole transformer in the street which is faulty
> (and the power company admits this but refuses to replace it due to
> cost). Digital reception is excellent. That is a good enough reason
> for me and I can't be alone in this surely?

In Wollongong I had a similar problem with WIN-3 (all the other local
analog channels are UHF). Arcing on the insulators on the pole outside
my house caused twin lines of speckles. I almost got it fixed years
ago but the linesmen were called away to fix a fault before they could
start and never came back...
Here Digital is all UHF and has no problems.