Interior lights will not turn off!!

[Ext User(nathan.hughes@ce.com.au)]

Hi All,

Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
will be able to help.

The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
Annoying during the day, even worse at night.

The car in question is a VY Senator.

All doors are closed, as is the boot.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

Fabric.

[Ext User(Atheist Chaplain)]

<nathan.hughes@ce.com.au> wrote in message
news:a03eed2e-a27d-4798-a9c5-58cdb12e9167@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi All,
>
> Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
> will be able to help.
>
> The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
> off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
> Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>
> The car in question is a VY Senator.
>
> All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabric.

pull the bulb out

--
"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
Don Hirschberg

[Ext User(nathan.hughes@ce.com.au)]

On Dec 20, 1:10 pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <ab...@cia.gov> wrote:
> <nathan.hug...@ce.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:a03eed2e-a27d-4798-a9c5-58cdb12e9167@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
> > will be able to help.
>
> > The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
> > off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
> > Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>
> > The car in question is a VY Senator.
>
> > All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>
> > Any help appreciated.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Fabric.
>
> pull the bulb out
>
> --
> "Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
> Don Hirschberg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

there's 8 to pull out....!

[Ext User(jackbadger56)]

On Dec 20, 3:03 pm, nathan.hug...@ce.com.au wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
> will be able to help.
>
> The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
> off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
> Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>
> The car in question is a VY Senator.
>
> All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabric.

I had this happen on an early Discovery, and the problem was the
little switch that closes when you close the door had fallen back into
the cavity behind the front guards, and as they are spring-loaded in
the "door open" position, the light stayed on (the British, in their
wisdom, neglected to fit any switch at all to the front interior
light!).
A VY probably has something a little more modern than the 1992 Disco,
but whatever it uses to assess whether an aperture is open might have
the same issue.

[Ext User(mmal380vrx@hotmail.com)]

On Dec 20, 3:03 pm, nathan.hug...@ce.com.au wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
> will be able to help.
>
> The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
> off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
> Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>
> The car in question is a VY Senator.
>
> All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabric.

its a holden trade it up for a mitsubishi they do not have any
problems at all

[Ext User(Marco)]

On Dec 20, 3:23 pm, jackbadger56 <castl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I had this happen on an early Discovery, and the problem was the
> little switch that closes when you close the door had fallen back into
> the cavity behind the front guards, and as they are spring-loaded in
> the "door open" position, the light stayed on (the British, in their
> wisdom, neglected to fit any switch at all to the front interior
> light!).

We had a similar-but-opposite problem in our Charade - the interior
light never went on when you opened the driver's door, but worked with
the passenger's - the switch on the door frame turned out to be
'sticky', and removing it and cleaning it up a bit seemed to clear
whatever the problem was.

IIRC on Commodores the switch is actually below the A-pillar part of
the door opening surround (ie, on the car body not on the door), near
the hinges.

Marco

[Ext User(Atheist Chaplain)]

"Marco" <ignition.vess@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 20, 3:23 pm, jackbadger56 <castl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I had this happen on an early Discovery, and the problem was the
>> little switch that closes when you close the door had fallen back into
>> the cavity behind the front guards, and as they are spring-loaded in
>> the "door open" position, the light stayed on (the British, in their
>> wisdom, neglected to fit any switch at all to the front interior
>> light!).
>
> We had a similar-but-opposite problem in our Charade - the interior
> light never went on when you opened the driver's door, but worked with
> the passenger's - the switch on the door frame turned out to be
> 'sticky', and removing it and cleaning it up a bit seemed to clear
> whatever the problem was.
>
> IIRC on Commodores the switch is actually below the A-pillar part of
> the door opening surround (ie, on the car body not on the door), near
> the hinges.
>
> Marco

back to the OP, if the lights stay on regardless of the switch position and
door/boot opening I would be thinking a short somewhere, could be expensive
to chase down with the amount of wiring in a modern car :-(

--
"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
Don Hirschberg

[Ext User(jackbadger56)]

On Dec 20, 3:52 pm, Marco <ignition.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 20, 3:23 pm, jackbadger56 <castl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I had this happen on an early Discovery, and the problem was the
> > little switch that closes when you close the door had fallen back into
> > the cavity behind the front guards, and as they are spring-loaded in
> > the "door open" position, the light stayed on (the British, in their
> > wisdom, neglected to fit any switch at all to the front interior
> > light!).
>
> We had a similar-but-opposite problem in our Charade - the interior
> light never went on when you opened the driver's door, but worked with
> the passenger's - the switch on the door frame turned out to be
> 'sticky', and removing it and cleaning it up a bit seemed to clear
> whatever the problem was.

By the time I discovered the light was on in this Disco, it was dusk
(8 pm); I didn't have a single tool with me (the light cover was held
by locating screws which were hidden beneath some giant map-pocket
which was very fastened to the roof lining!) and I was somewhere
between Sydney and Tamworth. I was picking up this old Merc on the car
trailer and intended to do the round trip in one go.
I ended up buying the most you-beaut space-age best-of-the-best-of-the-
best duct tape (I'm assuming it was good as it cost $20!) from an all-
night truck stop and just covering it for the trip! ;-)
(I can't believe that was the only problem I ever had with that
car!!!)

[Ext User(OzOne)]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:21:22 -0800 (PST), nathan.hughes@ce.com.au
wrote:



>
>there's 8 to pull out....!

better start now




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

[Ext User(Slip)]

<mmal380vrx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Dec 20, 3:03 pm, nathan.hug...@ce.com.au wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
>> will be able to help.
>>
>> The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
>> off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
>> Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>>
>> The car in question is a VY Senator.
>>
>> All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>>
>> Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Fabric.
>
> its a holden trade it up for a mitsubishi they do not have any
> problems at all

Now that's a "Noddy" statement.

Regards,

Slip

[Ext User(Noddy)]

<nathan.hughes@ce.com.au> wrote in message
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> Any help appreciated.

Check the switches, and in particular the master switch you use to turn the
lights on when the doors are closed.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(nathan.hughes@ce.com.au)]

On Dec 20, 3:55 pm, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:
> <nathan.hug...@ce.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:a03eed2e-a27d-4798-a9c5-58cdb12e9167@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Any help appreciated.
>
> Check the switches, and in particular the master switch you use to turn the
> lights on when the doors are closed.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.

Aha, tried that, all door switches, master, map lights, boot &
bonnet...

[Ext User(E. Newnes)]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:03:15 -0800 (PST), nathan.hughes@ce.com.au
wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
>will be able to help.
>
>The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
>off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
>Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>
>The car in question is a VY Senator.
>
>All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>
>Any help appreciated.
>

Do these cars have a relay to provide a delay? If so it could be that
the relay is sticking.

[Ext User(nathan.hughes@ce.com.au)]

On Dec 20, 4:25 pm, E. Newnes <enewn...@solvo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:03:15 -0800 (PST), nathan.hug...@ce.com.au
> wrote:
>
> >Hi All,
>
> >Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
> >will be able to help.
>
> >The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
> >off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
> >Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>
> >The car in question is a VY Senator.
>
> >All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>
> >Any help appreciated.
>
> Do these cars have a relay to provide a delay? If so it could be that
> the relay is sticking.

I found a relay called "lighting" when removed does prevent all
interior lights from working, so I swapped it out with another relay
of equal capcity.. still no luck.. I'm beginning to think the short-
circuit theory is becoming more likely..

[Ext User(Andy)]

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<a984d1d8-acab-46f2-9d1f-abbe2f21ae1f@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
nathan.hughes@ce.com.au wrote:

> On Dec 20, 1:10 pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <ab...@cia.gov> wrote:
> > <nathan.hug...@ce.com.au> wrote in message
> >
> > news:a03eed2e-a27d-4798-a9c5-58cdb12e9167@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > > Hi All,
> >
> > > Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
> > > will be able to help.
> >
> > > The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
> > > off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
> > > Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
> >
> > > The car in question is a VY Senator.
> >
> > > All doors are closed, as is the boot.
> >
> > > Any help appreciated.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> >
> > > Fabric.
> >
> > pull the bulb out

> there's 8 to pull out....!


8?! For fuck's sake! :-) A trip to a decent auto sparkie might be the
least insanity inducing answer to this one unfortunately. Unless you
*like* pulling interior bits apart.

Cheers,
Andy.

[Ext User(rebel)]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:21:22 -0800 (PST), nathan.hughes@ce.com.au wrote:

>On Dec 20, 1:10 pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <ab...@cia.gov> wrote:
>> <nathan.hug...@ce.com.au> wrote in message
>>
>> news:a03eed2e-a27d-4798-a9c5-58cdb12e9167@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi All,
>>
>> > Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
>> > will be able to help.
>>
>> > The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
>> > off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
>> > Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>>
>> > The car in question is a VY Senator.
>>
>> > All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>>
>> > Any help appreciated.
>>
>> > Cheers,
>>
>> > Fabric.
>>
>> pull the bulb out
>>
>> --
>> "Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
>> Don Hirschberg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>there's 8 to pull out....!

Better get started then ...

[Ext User(rebel)]

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:46:18 -0800 (PST), nathan.hughes@ce.com.au wrote:

>On Dec 20, 4:25 pm, E. Newnes <enewn...@solvo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:03:15 -0800 (PST), nathan.hug...@ce.com.au
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi All,
>>
>> >Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
>> >will be able to help.
>>
>> >The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
>> >off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
>> >Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>>
>> >The car in question is a VY Senator.
>>
>> >All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>>
>> >Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Do these cars have a relay to provide a delay? If so it could be that
>> the relay is sticking.
>
>I found a relay called "lighting" when removed does prevent all
>interior lights from working, so I swapped it out with another relay
>of equal capcity.. still no luck.. I'm beginning to think the short-
>circuit theory is becoming more likely..

If it has a delayed-off function (when working *properly* of course) and relay
swapping ahsn't addressed it, I'd suspect an electronic module provides the
delay and it has gone belly-up. Ring a Holden dealership and ask some questions
- they just might know.

Clockie, where are you?

[Ext User(Klompmeester)]

<nathan.hughes@ce.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Dec 20, 3:55 pm, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:
>> <nathan.hug...@ce.com.au> wrote in message
>>
>> news:a03eed2e-a27d-4798-a9c5-58cdb12e9167@b40g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Check the switches, and in particular the master switch you use to turn
>> the
>> lights on when the doors are closed.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Noddy.
>
> Aha, tried that, all door switches, master, map lights, boot &
> bonnet...

The interior lights are switched through the BCM which has a relay to
control that operation internally.

Try disconnecting the BCM under the drivers side lower dash panel, or
alternatively disconnect the battery for 10 minutes or so.

Giving it a tap won't hurt either. What can happen is that the interior
light relay in the BCM can get stuck on and no matter what you do the light
won't go off. By disconnecting the BCM or battery for a few minutes it
allows the BCM relay to cool down and it will often release especially with
a firm tap to the exterior housing.

A particular (short) range of VY's were prone to this particular BCM fault.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

<nathan.hughes@ce.com.au> wrote in message
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> Aha, tried that, all door switches, master, map lights, boot &
> bonnet...

I'd be checking again.

All 8 globes can only be getting power if a switch is making it happen.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

<nathan.hughes@ce.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Dec 20, 4:25 pm, E. Newnes <enewn...@solvo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:03:15 -0800 (PST), nathan.hug...@ce.com.au
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi All,
>>
>> >Long time no post, but i'm pulling my hair out and i'm sure someone
>> >will be able to help.
>>
>> >The problem is as in the subjet line - interior lights will not turn
>> >off, even if i select "off" instead of "door" on the toggle switch.
>> >Annoying during the day, even worse at night.
>>
>> >The car in question is a VY Senator.
>>
>> >All doors are closed, as is the boot.
>>
>> >Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Do these cars have a relay to provide a delay? If so it could be that
>> the relay is sticking.
>
> I found a relay called "lighting" when removed does prevent all
> interior lights from working, so I swapped it out with another relay
> of equal capcity.. still no luck.. I'm beginning to think the short-
> circuit theory is becoming more likely..

I reckon it is the switch.

Fraser