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[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
Dubbo shortly.

[Ext User(XR8 Sprintless)]

the_dawggie wrote:
>
> Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
> Dubbo shortly.
Glad you're not posting from the drivers seat! 8-)

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

XR8 Sprintless wrote:
> the_dawggie wrote:
>>
>> Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
>> Dubbo shortly.
> Glad you're not posting from the drivers seat! 8-)

LOL!, oh well on the Newell Hwy now and its pissing down
rain, and I'm trying to work out if I can get out of
having to do my shift. Right now prefer to drive
the 'puter :-)

[Ext User(XR8 Sprintless)]

the_dawggie wrote:
> XR8 Sprintless wrote:
>> the_dawggie wrote:
>>>
>>> Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
>>> Dubbo shortly.
>> Glad you're not posting from the drivers seat! 8-)
>
> LOL!, oh well on the Newell Hwy now and its pissing down
> rain, and I'm trying to work out if I can get out of
> having to do my shift. Right now prefer to drive
> the 'puter :-)

I always hate the trip from Moree to Boggabilla as it's so long and
boring. It's also a bit of a pain around Gilgandra where you get all the
hills and semi's with nowhere to pass. Have fun out there. ;-)

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
> Dubbo shortly.

How exciting for you :)

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(jackbadger56)]

On Dec 22, 12:23 pm, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:
> "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:qOXaj.26223$CN4.4165@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> > Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
> > Dubbo shortly.
>
> How exciting for you :)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.

Hmmmm.......needs sexing up doesn't it! ;-p

[Ext User(David Z)]

You must have a *really* long ethernet cable.

"the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
> Dubbo shortly.

[Ext User(Athol)]

the_dawggie <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
> Dubbo shortly.

I guess you weren't interested in those nokia bits I posted about
the other day...

I remembered that my neighbour has a 5110 car kit in one of their
cars, so the pile of spares including another car kit might go
their way.

On a related note, how the fuck to tel$tra get away with asking
$329 for a car kit for an LG TU550 when there are 2 different
eBay sellers selling the same genuine (AU stock) kits for under
$200?

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<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

[Ext User(James)]

"Athol" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:1198297119.928449@idlwebserver.idl.com.au...
> the_dawggie <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
>> Dubbo shortly.
>
> I guess you weren't interested in those nokia bits I posted about
> the other day...
>
> I remembered that my neighbour has a 5110 car kit in one of their
> cars, so the pile of spares including another car kit might go
> their way.
>
> On a related note, how the fuck to tel$tra get away with asking
> $329 for a car kit for an LG TU550 when there are 2 different
> eBay sellers selling the same genuine (AU stock) kits for under
> $200?
>
> --
> Athol
> <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
> I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

As a dissapointed user of a TU-550 I can give you a little tip. Don't bother
with the car kit, they are a joke! You'd be better off with a bluetooth
piece of shit. I don't even bother with using the car kit anymore, it's just
used as a charger. Oh well, doesn't matter, new job / car / phone in a few
weeks and maybe I'll get a Nokia. :)

James

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"jackbadger56" <castle56@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hmmmm.......needs sexing up doesn't it! ;-p

A tad.

Saying your posting from Dubbo is like saying you're posting from your linen
cupboard :)

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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Diesel Damo)]

On Dec 22, 10:15*am, the_dawggie <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
> Dubbo shortly.

Skip over to Mot Adv's post in the "Be safe this holiday" thread and
then pass the laptop around the car :-)

[Ext User(Athol)]

James <dotatdot@ttppigg.com.au> wrote:

> As a dissapointed user of a TU-550 I can give you a little tip. Don't bother
> with the car kit, they are a joke! You'd be better off with a bluetooth
> piece of shit. I don't even bother with using the car kit anymore, it's just
> used as a charger. Oh well, doesn't matter, new job / car / phone in a few
> weeks and maybe I'll get a Nokia. :)

Interesting. What issues did you experience that made you disappointed?

My main concerns are coverage and proper functioning of the car kit. I
do quite a few km of highway driving and take incoming calls from
customers while I'm at it...

I have also had to completely remove and refit a car kit installed by a
tel$tra dealer in the past. It worked fine after that, aside from the
cheap crap Hyundai kit getting corrosion problems on the contacts where
the lead from the cradle plugs into the control box, which meant
unplugging it and plugging it back in each time it stopped working.

I was told recently that one of the high volume selling mobile aerials
in recent years has a small technical problem. Apparently this "glue
to window, stick mast on outside" inductive device didn't seem to get
*any* gain, so someone cut one open and guess what they found inside?

Nothing. There was absolutely nothing connected to the input socket
except the large blob of potting compound...

I have a quad-band RFI aerial in the Falcon. I checked and it is not
only rated for both GSM and CDMA but it also covers all of the
frequencies used by Next-G... Obviously, the plan is to fit the kit
myself and connect it to the existing aerial.

Oh, and if you're going to have a spare LG car kit, chuck it in my
direction. I need one for the bus and I'd like to put one in the
Volvo, too, but I can't claim the Volvo one on tax. :-)

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Athol
<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

[Ext User(James)]

"Athol" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:1198314759.175888@idlwebserver.idl.com.au...
> James <dotatdot@ttppigg.com.au> wrote:
>
>> As a dissapointed user of a TU-550 I can give you a little tip. Don't
>> bother
>> with the car kit, they are a joke! You'd be better off with a bluetooth
>> piece of shit. I don't even bother with using the car kit anymore, it's
>> just
>> used as a charger. Oh well, doesn't matter, new job / car / phone in a
>> few
>> weeks and maybe I'll get a Nokia. :)
>
> Interesting. What issues did you experience that made you disappointed?
>
> My main concerns are coverage and proper functioning of the car kit. I
> do quite a few km of highway driving and take incoming calls from
> customers while I'm at it...
>
> I have also had to completely remove and refit a car kit installed by a
> tel$tra dealer in the past. It worked fine after that, aside from the
> cheap crap Hyundai kit getting corrosion problems on the contacts where
> the lead from the cradle plugs into the control box, which meant
> unplugging it and plugging it back in each time it stopped working.
>
> I was told recently that one of the high volume selling mobile aerials
> in recent years has a small technical problem. Apparently this "glue
> to window, stick mast on outside" inductive device didn't seem to get
> *any* gain, so someone cut one open and guess what they found inside?
>
> Nothing. There was absolutely nothing connected to the input socket
> except the large blob of potting compound...
>
> I have a quad-band RFI aerial in the Falcon. I checked and it is not
> only rated for both GSM and CDMA but it also covers all of the
> frequencies used by Next-G... Obviously, the plan is to fit the kit
> myself and connect it to the existing aerial.
>
> Oh, and if you're going to have a spare LG car kit, chuck it in my
> direction. I need one for the bus and I'd like to put one in the
> Volvo, too, but I can't claim the Volvo one on tax. :-)
>
> --
> Athol
> <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
> I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

Sorry I won't have a spare LG car kit. I'm leaving the company I currently
work for and it will be going with the car and phone that they supply me.

The reasons I'm dissapointed with the car kit...

Seemingly no increase in coverage with the external antenna, although a
broomstick type may prove an advantage (I have the normal stick on inductive
thing).

The slide down, push in & then plug in the little headphone plug on the
other side of the phone so you have to "feel" it in because you cant see it
when mounted in the centre of the dash. Make sure if you do get one that the
first thing you do it tear off the little rubber grommets on the phone
because that will drive you nutty after 5 mins.

Piss poor volume even when turned up flat out (although i sometimes wonder
if the telstra tech thought it would be funny to mount the speaker as far up
under the dash as he could). I have to pull over and stop the car to carry
on a normal conversation on the hands free so what is the point.

Not so much a car kit thing but a phone thing i don't like the fact that
there is no voice dialling at all, as I did find that useful on previous
Nokia & Kyocera CDMAs.

Another thing that astounds me is that the profile automatically selected
when you put the phone in the cradle is "headset" not "car kit", although
car kit is one of the profiles. Maybe there was plans to design a real car
kit?

All my other beefs are purely related to the 3G network coverage or should I
say lack of it, and the unreliability and frequent dropouts during calls.
When I went for the interview for the new job they spent a fair amount of
time asking my impressions of the phone since they are needing to upgrade a
shitload of CDMA phones and car kits. The questions were prompted by the
fact that when they tried to call me to arrange the interview twice I was
out of range and once the call dropped out when i was in the middle of town.

When we got the LGs the NextG Nokia and car kit wasn't available, but it
might be worth investigating.

James

[Ext User(Codswallop)]

the_dawggie wrote:
>
> Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
> Dubbo shortly.

You should have taken a webcam

[Ext User(James)]

"James" <dotatdot@TtpPigG.com.au> wrote in message
news:476ce09c@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
> "Athol" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:1198314759.175888@idlwebserver.idl.com.au...
>> James <dotatdot@ttppigg.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> As a dissapointed user of a TU-550 I can give you a little tip. Don't
>>> bother
>>> with the car kit, they are a joke! You'd be better off with a bluetooth
>>> piece of shit. I don't even bother with using the car kit anymore, it's
>>> just
>>> used as a charger. Oh well, doesn't matter, new job / car / phone in a
>>> few
>>> weeks and maybe I'll get a Nokia. :)
>>
>> Interesting. What issues did you experience that made you disappointed?
>>
>> My main concerns are coverage and proper functioning of the car kit. I
>> do quite a few km of highway driving and take incoming calls from
>> customers while I'm at it...
>>
>> I have also had to completely remove and refit a car kit installed by a
>> tel$tra dealer in the past. It worked fine after that, aside from the
>> cheap crap Hyundai kit getting corrosion problems on the contacts where
>> the lead from the cradle plugs into the control box, which meant
>> unplugging it and plugging it back in each time it stopped working.
>>
>> I was told recently that one of the high volume selling mobile aerials
>> in recent years has a small technical problem. Apparently this "glue
>> to window, stick mast on outside" inductive device didn't seem to get
>> *any* gain, so someone cut one open and guess what they found inside?
>>
>> Nothing. There was absolutely nothing connected to the input socket
>> except the large blob of potting compound...
>>
>> I have a quad-band RFI aerial in the Falcon. I checked and it is not
>> only rated for both GSM and CDMA but it also covers all of the
>> frequencies used by Next-G... Obviously, the plan is to fit the kit
>> myself and connect it to the existing aerial.
>>
>> Oh, and if you're going to have a spare LG car kit, chuck it in my
>> direction. I need one for the bus and I'd like to put one in the
>> Volvo, too, but I can't claim the Volvo one on tax. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Athol
>> <http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
>> I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.
>
> Sorry I won't have a spare LG car kit. I'm leaving the company I currently
> work for and it will be going with the car and phone that they supply me.
>
> The reasons I'm dissapointed with the car kit...
>
> Seemingly no increase in coverage with the external antenna, although a
> broomstick type may prove an advantage (I have the normal stick on
> inductive thing).
>
> The slide down, push in & then plug in the little headphone plug on the
> other side of the phone so you have to "feel" it in because you cant see
> it when mounted in the centre of the dash. Make sure if you do get one
> that the first thing you do it tear off the little rubber grommets on the
> phone because that will drive you nutty after 5 mins.
>
> Piss poor volume even when turned up flat out (although i sometimes wonder
> if the telstra tech thought it would be funny to mount the speaker as far
> up under the dash as he could). I have to pull over and stop the car to
> carry on a normal conversation on the hands free so what is the point.
>
> Not so much a car kit thing but a phone thing i don't like the fact that
> there is no voice dialling at all, as I did find that useful on previous
> Nokia & Kyocera CDMAs.
>
> Another thing that astounds me is that the profile automatically selected
> when you put the phone in the cradle is "headset" not "car kit", although
> car kit is one of the profiles. Maybe there was plans to design a real car
> kit?
>
> All my other beefs are purely related to the 3G network coverage or should
> I say lack of it, and the unreliability and frequent dropouts during
> calls. When I went for the interview for the new job they spent a fair
> amount of time asking my impressions of the phone since they are needing
> to upgrade a shitload of CDMA phones and car kits. The questions were
> prompted by the fact that when they tried to call me to arrange the
> interview twice I was out of range and once the call dropped out when i
> was in the middle of town.
>
> When we got the LGs the NextG Nokia and car kit wasn't available, but it
> might be worth investigating.
>
> James
>

Oh and on a good note, the TU550 has the easiest to use calculator function
that I've ever encountered on a phone :)

James

[Ext User(Athol)]

James <dotatdot@ttppigg.com.au> wrote:
> "Athol" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>> I was told recently that one of the high volume selling mobile aerials
>> in recent years has a small technical problem. Apparently this "glue
>> to window, stick mast on outside" inductive device didn't seem to get
>> *any* gain, so someone cut one open and guess what they found inside?

>> Nothing. There was absolutely nothing connected to the input socket
>> except the large blob of potting compound...

> Sorry I won't have a spare LG car kit. I'm leaving the company I currently
> work for and it will be going with the car and phone that they supply me.

Fair enough.

> The reasons I'm dissapointed with the car kit...

> Seemingly no increase in coverage with the external antenna, although a
> broomstick type may prove an advantage (I have the normal stick on inductive
> thing).

See above comments on stick-ons. I've got an aerial that does perform
better than a stick-on, but not as good as the better broomsticks.

> The slide down, push in & then plug in the little headphone plug on the
> other side of the phone so you have to "feel" it in because you cant see it
> when mounted in the centre of the dash.

Toby was saying something about that the other day.

I have a mounting bracket coming out between the passenger side of the
radio and the dash, angled sideways, so hopefully that won't be quite as
bad, either. I actually spaced the hyundai cradle on one side to rotate
it more towards the driver and I'll probably have to do the same again...

> Make sure if you do get one that the
> first thing you do it tear off the little rubber grommets on the phone
> because that will drive you nutty after 5 mins.

You have to prise one grommet out of the back of the phone to reveal the
aerial socket, don't you? I did that with my Nokia 5110 and with the CDMA
Hyundai. Once out, the grommet stays out. :-)

> Piss poor volume even when turned up flat out (although i sometimes wonder
> if the telstra tech thought it would be funny to mount the speaker as far up
> under the dash as he could). I have to pull over and stop the car to carry
> on a normal conversation on the hands free so what is the point.

Should have been both a mute wire to the car radio and a mono audio feed to
the radio so that it feeds the phone audio through the radio, as well as the
car kit speaker. One of the things that I had to do when I redid the
install of the Hyundai kit was connect those wires. They were there but
weren't connected!

> Not so much a car kit thing but a phone thing i don't like the fact that
> there is no voice dialling at all, as I did find that useful on previous
> Nokia & Kyocera CDMAs.

Oh, okay. I don't dial out while driving. It's all about customers being
able to ring me.

> Another thing that astounds me is that the profile automatically selected
> when you put the phone in the cradle is "headset" not "car kit", although
> car kit is one of the profiles. Maybe there was plans to design a real car
> kit?

I'll remember that. "Headset" is the name of the car kit profile. Sounds
more like a firmware bug to me. Just like the bug of not being able to
password protect the internet functions, which I did on the Hyundai (and
never unlocked again).

> All my other beefs are purely related to the 3G network coverage or should I
> say lack of it, and the unreliability and frequent dropouts during calls.
> When I went for the interview for the new job they spent a fair amount of
> time asking my impressions of the phone since they are needing to upgrade a
> shitload of CDMA phones and car kits. The questions were prompted by the
> fact that when they tried to call me to arrange the interview twice I was
> out of range and once the call dropped out when i was in the middle of town.

I'm hearing a lot about dropouts in high signal strength areas in towns, and
poor range issues in the bush. Sounds like going back to GSM...

Hopefully the RFI aerial will help somewhat. I plan on putting a
broomstick on the bus. :-)

> When we got the LGs the NextG Nokia and car kit wasn't available, but it
> might be worth investigating.

Too late, unfortunately.

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Athol
<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol> Linux Registered User # 254000
I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:43:32 +0000, Athol blathered on in :

> I'm hearing a lot about dropouts in high signal strength areas in towns,
> and poor range issues in the bush. Sounds like going back to GSM...

I can tell you that the same cells that failed in hand-in/hand-out at the
beginning of CDMA are doing the same crap for NextG. Remember, they make
the bullshit Claim that CDMA and NextG both have secure cell change
procedures.
What that means if that Tel$tra have fixed fuck-all in 7 odd years, so
there's no reason to suppose they ever will.
But it's still a heap better than that execrable GSM:-)



--
Toby

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

On Dec 22, 1:20 pm, "David Z" <d...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You must have a *really* long ethernet cable.
>
> "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:qOXaj.26223$CN4.4165@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>
>
> > Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
> > Dubbo shortly.

Nah, Hel$tra wireless does work very well (apart from some problems
needing to reboot when it if fact does drop out).

Needed an inverter to keep the laptop charged, and the older style
USB modem plug pack going.

Still a c**t of a trip to QLD, pissed down rain almost the entire way
up here :-( which was almost 1100 km.

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

On Dec 22, 3:18 pm, Athol <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> the_dawggie <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Backseat of a car travelling at 110 kph, should be coming into
> > Dubbo shortly.
>
> I guess you weren't interested in those nokia bits I posted about
> the other day...
>
> I remembered that my neighbour has a 5110 car kit in one of their
> cars, so the pile of spares including another car kit might go
> their way.

Would be appreciated, thanks. I can't remember that I saw the post,
so likely missed it.

> On a related note, how the fuck to tel$tra get away with asking
> $329 for a car kit for an LG TU550 when there are 2 different
> eBay sellers selling the same genuine (AU stock) kits for under
> $200?

Because they can :-)

With the wireless Hel$tra stuff, I'm seriously considering
how much $ it would be to swap my external powered wireless
one for the small USB stick ones that plug into the side of the
laptop and powered from the USB port.

I was surprised to find that it even works ferpectly on the
farm, in the shed.

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

On Dec 22, 5:03 pm, "Noddy" <m...@home.com> wrote:
> "jackbadger56" <castl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7b2add78-7b46-49f9-89cd-
>
> > Hmmmm.......needs sexing up doesn't it! ;-p
>
> A tad.
>
> Saying your posting from Dubbo is like saying you're posting from your linen
> cupboard :)

Well, now I'm posting from a room in QLD. It has a built in wardrobe,
I'd likely fit in that. I think that's the best I can do ATM :-)

More confortable from in bed though.