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Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what
Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."

Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants, secondhand
smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease.[1] Milloy also runs
CSRWatch.com, which monitors and criticizes the corporate social
responsibility movement. From the 1990s until the end of 2005, he was an
adjunct scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute, which hosted the
JunkScience.com site. He is currently an adjunct scholar at the
Competitive Enterprise Institute. Milloy is head of the Free Enterprise
Action Fund, a mutual fund he runs with former tobacco executive Tom
Borelli. He also operates the Advancement of Sound Science Center, a
non-profit organization which is critical of environmental science, from
his home in Potomac, Maryland. Milloy has authored four books.

Milloy's close financial and organizational ties to tobacco and oil
companies have been the subject of criticism from a number of sources,
as Milloy has consistently criticized the science linking secondhand
smoke to health risks and human activity to global warming.[2][3][4][5]
Contents
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* 1 Educational background
* 2 Career
* 3 Junk science
o 3.1 Secondhand smoke
+ 3.1.1 Links to tobacco industry
o 3.2 The environment
o 3.3 Climate Change
o 3.4 U.S. Surgeon General
o 3.5 DDT
o 3.6 Asbestos and the World Trade Center
o 3.7 Food safety
o 3.8 Evolution
* 4 Registration as a lobbyist
* 5 Corporate activism
* 6 Responses
* 7 Books
* 8 Notes
* 9 See also
* 10 External links
o 10.1 Milloy's Websites
o 10.2 Tobacco Document Archives
o 10.3 News coverage

[edit] Educational background

Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from Johns Hopkins University, a
Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from the Johns Hopkins
University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctor from the
University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown
University Law Center.[6]

[edit] Career

According to his website, in 1994, Milloy was project leader of the
Regulatory Impact Analysis Project, Inc. for the U.S. Department of
Energy. The Cato Institute, where he was listed as an adjunct scholar
published his work from 1995 to 2005. Milloy began his criticism of
"Junk science" as president of the Environmental Policy Analysis Network
in 1996. In March 1997, Milloy became president of the Advancement of
Sound Science Coalition (TASSC), which later became the Advancement of
Sound Science Center.[7] He has been a correspondent for Fox News since
2002.

[edit] Junk science

Main article: Junk science

Milloy defines junk science as "faulty scientific data and analysis used
to advance special and, often, hidden agendas." According to Milloy,
"the junk science 'mob' includes: The MEDIA, [who] may use junk science
for sensational headlines and programming…PERSONAL INJURY LAWYERS, [who]
may use junk science to bamboozle juries into awarding huge verdicts,"
and others.[8] Milloy claims that there are examples of "junk science"
which have been identified as wholly without foundation; examples
include two papers published in Science.[9] An editorial in the American
Journal of Public Health noted that "... attacking the science
underlying difficult public policy decisions with the label of 'junk'
has become a common ploy for those opposed to regulation. One need only
peruse JunkScience.com to get a sense of the long list of public health
issues for which research has been so labeled."[10]

[edit] Secondhand smoke

Milloy has criticized research linking secondhand tobacco smoke to
cancer, claiming that "the vast majority of studies reported no
statistical association."[11] In 1993, Milloy dismissed an Environmental
Protection Agency report linking secondhand tobacco smoke to cancer as
"a joke." Five years later Milloy claimed vindication after a federal
court criticized the EPA's conclusions. However, the court's finding
against the EPA was overturned on appeal.

When the British Medical Journal published a meta-analysis confirming a
link in 1997, Milloy wrote, "Of the 37 studies, only 7—less than 19
percent—reported statistically significant increases in lung cancer
incidence... Meta-analysis of the secondhand smoke studies was a joke
when EPA did it in 1993. And it remains a joke today."[12] When another
researcher published a study linking secondhand smoke to cancer, Milloy
wrote that she "... must have pictures of journal editors in
compromising positions with farm animals. How else can you explain her
studies seeing the light of day?"[3]

[edit] Links to tobacco industry

While at FoxNews.com, Milloy has continued to criticize claims that
secondhand tobacco smoke causes cancer.[2] However, with the release of
confidential tobacco industry documents as part of the Tobacco Master
Settlement Agreement, the objectivity of Milloy's stance on secondhand
smoke has been questioned. Based on this documentation, journalists Paul
D. Thacker and George Monbiot, as well as the Union of Concerned
Scientists and others, have contended that Milloy is a paid advocate for
the tobacco industry.[2][4][13]

Milloy's junkscience.com website was reviewed and revised by a public
relations firm hired by the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.[14] Milloy
also worked as executive director of The Advancement of Sound Science
Coalition (TASSC), a "front group" established in 1993 by Philip Morris
and its public relations firm "to expand and assist Philip Morris in its
efforts with issues in targeted states."[2][15][16] Philip Morris memos
describe "utilizing TASSC as a tool in targeted legislative
battles";[17] a 1994 Philip Morris memo listed TASSC among its "Tools to
Affect Legislative Decisions".[18] According its 1997 annual report,
TASSC "sponsored" junkscience.com.[19]

The New Republic reported that Milloy, who is presented by Fox News as
an independent journalist, was under contract to provide consulting
services to Philip Morris through the end of 2005.[2] In 2000 & 2001,
for example, Milloy received a total of $180,000 in payments from Philip
Morris for consulting services.[20] A spokesperson for Fox News stated,
"Fox News was unaware of Milloy's connection with Philip Morris. Any
affiliation he had should have been disclosed."[2] Milloy's association
with the Cato Institute has since ended; however, as of July 2007, he
continues to write for FoxNews.com, where he is described as a "junk
science expert."[21] Monbiot wrote: "Even after Fox News was told about
the money [Milloy] had been receiving from Philip Morris and Exxon, it
continued to employ him, without informing its readers about his
interests."[22] Thacker wrote:

Objective viewers long ago realized that Fox News has a political
agenda. But, when a pundit promotes this agenda while on the take from
corporations that benefit from it, then Fox News has gone one disturbing
step further.[2]

The American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation similarly stated that
"...Milloy has made it his life’s work to deny scientific studies
conducted and published by the world’s most reputable and credible
scientific agencies... and label their objective evidence as 'junk
science'. Milloy has a lucrative and lengthy relationship with the
tobacco industry."[23]

[edit] The environment

Milloy has been critical of the Clean Air Act, acknowledging that it has
improved air quality but arguing that it has forced Americans to
"surrender many freedoms." Milloy argued that "air pollution in the U.S.
was more of an aesthetic than a public health problem [in 1970]. That is
even more the case today."[24]

Milloy maintains the position that "The ozone hole is another area where
knowledge is insufficient to draw conclusions. There is no "hole," but
only a thinning of the stratospheric ozone layer over the South Pole.
The size and depth of the "hole" varies from year to year. No one knows
why ... it is unclear what effect CFC releases have had on the Earth's
ozone layer."[25]

[edit] Climate Change

Milloy has consistently argued from the position of a global warming
skeptic that human activity has little impact on climate change and that
regulations to limit greenhouse gas emissions are unwarranted and
harmful to business interests. He has recently offered a prize of $125
000 to anyone who can "prove, in a scientific manner, that humans are
causing harmful global warming," stating that "JunkScience.com, in its
sole discretion, will determine the winner, if any."[26]

In 2004, when the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment was released by the
Arctic Council and the International Arctic Science Committee, Milloy
wrote that the report "pretty much debunks itself."[27] Milloy's
assertions were disputed by the lead author of the study,[5] as well as
by climate scientist Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for
Climate Impact Research, who criticized Milloy for taking "one result
out of context and present[ing] unwarranted conclusions, knowing that a
lay audience will not easily recognise their fallacy."[28]

In April 1998 Milloy was part of the Global Climate Science Team (GCST),
which was founded in part by ExxonMobil to work out a strategy to
influence the media to "understand (recognize) uncertainties in climate
science."[4] The Union of Concerned Scientists reported that Milloy
helped develop the GCST action plan, which involved "invest[ing]
millions of dollars to manufacture uncertainty on the issue of global
warming."[4] In 2005, it was reported that non-profit organizations
operating out of Milloy's home, and in some cases employing no staff,
have received large payments from ExxonMobil during his tenure with Fox
News.[5][2][4] A Fox News spokesperson stated that Milloy is "...
affiliated with several not-for-profit groups that possibly may receive
funding from Exxon, but he certainly does not receive funding directly
from Exxon."[5]

Milloy is the Executive Director of DemandDebate.com,[29] an
organization that seeks to eliminate what it calls "bias" in
environmental education.[30] A Competitive Enterprise Institute press
release says he "coordinated" the group's activities at the recent Live
Earth concert in New York, at which a plane circled the event pulling a
banner reading, "DON’T BELIEVE AL GORE — DEMAND DEBATE.COM."[31]

[edit] U.S. Surgeon General

In 1998, Milloy, writing on behalf of TASSC, co-wrote an article which
called for the abolition of the position of United States Surgeon
General. "We have not had a surgeon general for three years. Has anyone
noticed? Is anyone's health at risk," asked the authors.[32][33]

[edit] DDT

Milloy has campaigned against the 1972 ban on non-public-health uses of
DDT in the United States and in favour of wider use of DDT against
malaria, which he claims could be largely eliminated if DDT were used
more aggressively. He has been particularly critical of Rachel Carson,
who, he wrote, "misrepresented the existing science on bird reproduction
and was wrong about DDT causing cancer."[34]

Milloy's junkscience.com web site features The Malaria Clock: A Green
Eco-Imperialist Legacy of Death,[35] which he claims counts up the
approximate number of new malaria cases and deaths in the world, most of
which he says could have been prevented by the use of DDT. As of June
2007, Milloy's clock stands at more than 94 million dead, 90% of whom
are said to have been expectant mothers and children under five years of
age. "Infanticide on this scale appears without parallel in human
history," writes Milloy. "This is not ecology. This is not conservation.
This is genocide."

Critics have argued that the the clock holds Carson "responsible for
more deaths than malaria has caused in total,"[36] a charge that a
footnote at the bottom of the malaria clock webpage seems to
acknowledges, stating: "Note that some of these cases would have
occurred irrespective of DDT use. Note also that, while enormously
influential, the US ban did not immediately terminate global DDT use and
that developing world malaria mortality increased over time rather than
instantly leaping to the estimated value of 2,700,000 deaths per year.
However, certain in the knowledge that even one human sacrificed on the
altar of green misanthropy is infinitely too many, I let stand the
linear extrapolation of numbers from an instant start on the 1st of the
month following this murderous ban."[35]

Responding to an opinion column relying on Milloy's arguments,
parasitologists Alan Lymbery and Andrew Thompson wrote, in 2004:

The use of DDT...is not banned for public health use in most areas
of the world where malaria is endemic. Indeed, DDT was recently exempted
from a proposed worldwide ban on organophosphate [sic] chemicals. One of
the important factors in declining use of DDT was decreasing
effectiveness and greater costs because of the development of resistance
in mosquitoes. Resistance was largely caused by the indiscriminate,
widespread use of DDT to control agricultural pests in the tropics. To
blame a reduction in DDT usage for the death of 10-30 million people
from malaria is not just simple-minded, it is demonstrably wrong.[37]

In 2006, following a press release by the World Health Organization
recommending more extensive use of indoor residual spraying with DDT and
other pesticides, Milloy wrote, "It’s a relief that the WHO has finally
come to its senses."[38]

[edit] Asbestos and the World Trade Center

On September 14, 2001, three days after terrorist attacks destroyed the
World Trade Center, Milloy wrote that the World Trade Center towers
might have stood longer, preventing many casualties, had the use of
asbestos fire-resistant lagging not been discontinued during the Towers'
construction.[39] Milloy's article reported that, "In 1971, New York
City banned the use of asbestos in spray fireproofing. At that time,
asbestos insulating material had only been sprayed up to the 64th floor
of the World Trade Center towers," and cited an expert who questioned
the efficacy of the asbestos-free lagging that was used on the steel in
the upper floors.

Advocates for banning asbestos were highly critical of the article,[39]
questioning his motives and disputing his conclusions. The International
Ban Asbestos Secretariat charged him with "insensitivity that is hard to
fathom."[40]

Laurie Kazan-Allen of the Secretariat wrote:

It takes a certain kind of person to capitalize on a human
catastrophe such as the attacks on the World Trade Centre. While the
rest of us remained desperate for news, some were plotting how these
events could be used to maximum advantage. ... The fact that Milloy
chose to make this and other such statements as ground zero was still
smouldering shows an insensitivity that is hard to fathom. What decent
human being could do anything during those early days but watch and wait
as the emergency services worked 24/7 to locate survivors?[41]

[edit] Food safety

Responding to criticism of the safety of the food product Quorn by the
Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), Milloy accused CSPI of
having an undisclosed relationship with Quorn's main competitor,
Gardenburger. Writing for FoxNews.com, Milloy said that "CSPI appears to
have an unsavory relationship with Quorn competitor, Gardenburger" and
called the CSPI's complaints "unscrupulous shrieking".[42] Gardenburger
denied Milloy's accusation, stating that Milloy's allegation of an
"unsavory relationship" was "untrue and groundless".[43]

[edit] Evolution

Milloy's views on evolution are as follows:

Explanations of human evolution are not likely to move beyond the
stage of hypothesis or conjecture. There is no scientific way — i.e., no
experiment or other means of reliable study — for explaining how humans
developed. Without a valid scientific method for proving a hypothesis,
no indisputable explanation can exist.

The process of evolution can be scientifically demonstrated in some
lower life forms, but this is a far cry from explaining how humans
developed.

That said, some sort of evolutionary process seems most likely in
my opinion. But there will probably always be enough uncertainty in any
explanation of human evolution to give critics plenty of room for doubt.[44]

[edit] Registration as a lobbyist

The United States Senate Lobby Filing Disclosure Program lists Milloy
was as a registered lobbyist for the EOP Group for the years
1998–2000.[45] The guidebook Washington Representatives also listed him
as a lobbyist for the EOP Group in 1996.[46] The EOP Group's clients
include the American Crop Protection Association (pesticides), the
Chlorine Chemistry Council, Edison Electric Institute (fossil and
nuclear energy), Fort Howard Corp. (a paper manufacturer) and the
National Mining Association. Milloy himself was personally registered as
a lobbyist for Monsanto and the International Food Additives
Council.[47][23]

Milloy denies ever lobbying, and in a 1998 email response to his
registration as a lobbyist under EOP he wrote:

I do not lobby for ANYONE. Before I became executive director of
TASSC, I did some technical consulting for a D.C. firm which had the
policy of registering all its employees and consultants as lobbyists
(whether or not they lobbied) pursuant to a new law passed in 1995. I am
aware of the listing and have asked it to be corrected since I no longer
work for that firm.[48]

[edit] Corporate activism

Milloy and former tobacco executive Tom Borelli run a mutual fund called
the Free Enterprise Action Fund (FEAF). The fund has criticised
companies that voluntarily adopt high environmental standards. Through
the platform of the FEAF, Milloy has criticized a number of other
corporations for adopting environmental initiatives:

* The FEAF criticized Microsoft for abandoning the use of PVC in
its packing materials.[49]
* Milloy accused the Business Roundtable, a pro-business
organization of CEO's, of being "silent about current threats to
business", adding, "Last September, we warned 18 member company CEOs
participating in the BRT’s 'sustainable growth' initiative to stop
wasting corporate resources."[50]
* Milloy and Borelli argued that General Electric is harming its
shareholders by launching a program to curtail greenhouse gas emissions.
They also accused G.E. of ignoring the input of global warming skeptic
groups such as the Cato Institute and the oil-industry-funded
Competitive Enterprise Institute in forming their environmental policy.[51]

FEAF has been criticised by investment analyst Chuck Jaffe as being "an
advocacy group in search of assets." Jaffe concludes "Strip away the
rhetoric, and you’re getting a very expensive, underperforming index
fund, while Milloy and his partner Thomas Borelli get a platform for
raising their pet issues."[52]

Similarly, Daniel Gross, in a Slate magazine article, wrote that FEAF
"seems to be a lobbying enterprise masquerading as a mutual fund." Gross
noted that Milloy and Tom Borelli, the former head of corporate
scientific affairs for Philip Morris, lack any money management
experience; he also noted that FEAF had badly underperformed the S&P 500
during its first 10 months of existence. Gross concluded that "...in the
short term, it looks like Borelli and Milloy are essentially paying the
fund for the privilege of using it as a platform to broadcast their
views on corporate governance, global warming, and a host of other
issues."[53]

[edit] Responses

Milloy and Borelli have defended Exxon against criticism for funding
global warming sceptics and others, though without declaring their own
financial interest. In September 2006, Milloy's Junkscience.com site
reproduced the following excerpt of a piece by Borelli published in
Townhall.com, criticising the British Royal Society:

Battle for the boardroom — After over 200 years of independence,
the British are still trying to direct U.S. public policy. The Royal
Society — the British equivalent of the National Academy of Sciences —
recently admonished Exxon Mobil for supporting organizations that
question the link between man-made greenhouse gas emissions and global
warming.

Notwithstanding the offensive nature of a prestigious organization
attempting to silence scientific debate, the Royal Society’s letter
sheds light on the larger effort employed by agents of the Left to
shut-down corporate support for pro-growth political organizations,
politicians and policies. By cutting-off the financial supply lines for
free-market thought and policies, these agents — labor unions, NGOs, the
media — hope to dominate public debate and control public opinion. As
these tactics continue to meet with success, liberal policies and
politicians will gain a huge strategic advantage.

For those of us interested in promoting pro-growth ideas, loss of
corporate support represents a huge threat to sound public policy. There
is too much money, power and influence wielded by companies and
free-market advocates can’t afford to give up that high ground to the
Left.[54]

[edit] Books

Milloy has written four books:

* Junk Science Judo: Self-defense Against Health Scares and Scams,
Cato Institute, 2001, ISBN 1930865120
* Silencing Science, Cato Institute, 1999, ISBN 1882577728 (with
Michael Gough)
* Science Without Sense: The Risky Business of Public Health
Research, Cato Institute, 1996, ISBN 1882577345
* Science-Based Risk Assessment: A Piece of the Superfund Puzzle,
National Environmental Policy Institute, 1995, ISBN 0964746301

Milloy's junkscience.com site lists positive comments, derived from
prepublication reviews of his books Silencing Science and Junk Science
Judo, published on the back cover (blurb) of those books. Those cited on
junkscience.com are the late Philip Abelson, editor of Science from 1962
to 1984, and D.A. Henderson, Dean of the Johns Hopkins School of Public
Health from 1977 to 1990. Abelson's review states "Milloy is one of a
small group who devotes time, energy and intelligence to the defense of
the truth of science."

Others with favourable reviews cited in the blurb of Junk Science Judo
are Ronald Bailey, Frederick Seitz and John Stossel.

[edit] Notes

1. ^ Milloy's Website, junkscience.com, accessed 20 Sept 2006.
2. ^ a b c d e f g h "Smoked Out: Pundit For Hire", published in The
New Republic, accessed 20 Sept 2006. Also available without subscription
at FreePress.net.
3. ^ a b PRWatch.org article detailing Milloy's ties to the tobacco
industry, accessed 23 Sept 2006.
4. ^ a b c d e Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s
Tobacco-like Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science. Union of
Concerned Scientists (3 January 2007). Retrieved on 2007-01-11.
5. ^ a b c d Some Like It Hot, Mother Jones article on Milloy
6. ^ Milloy's history and C.V., from his website junkscience.com,
accessed 20 Sept 2006.
7. ^ [1].
8. ^ Junk science?. junkscience.com. Retrieved on 2007-07-20.
9. ^ Steven Milloy (December 22, 2005). A Junk Science Christmas
Carol. FoxNews.com. Retrieved on 2007-07-22.
10. ^ Samet JM, Burke TA (2001). "Turning science into junk: the
tobacco industry and passive smoking". American journal of public health
91 (11): 1742-4. PMID 11684591.
11. ^ Secondhand Smokescreen, By Steven Milloy, March 9, 2001
12. ^ Secondhand Joking, by Steven Milloy
13. ^ PRWatch.com article describing the financial links between
Milloy and the tobacco industry, accessed 20 Sept 2006.
14. ^ Activity Report, R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., December 1996,
describing input from R.J.R. Tobacco's P.R. firm into Milloy's
junkscience website. From the Legacy Tobacco Documents Library at the
University of California, San Francisco. Accessed 5 October 2006.
15. ^ Philip Morris 1994 Budget Draft, available at the Philip Morris
Document Archive. Accessed 5 October 2006.
16. ^ Ong EK, Glantz SA (2000). "Tobacco industry efforts subverting
International Agency for Research on Cancer's second-hand smoke study".
Lancet 355 (9211): 1253-9. PMID 10770318.
17. ^ Letter from Margery Kraus, president of TASSC, to Vic Han,
Director of Communications for Philip Morris, dated 23 September 1993.
Accessed 5 October 2006.
18. ^ Philip Morris Corporate Affairs Budget Presentation, 1994, from
the Philip Morris Document Archive. Accessed 5 October 2006.
19. ^ Annual Report - 1997, Steven Milloy, January 7th, 1998.
Document accessed at Legacy Tobacco Documents Library on July 7, 2007.
20. ^ Philip Morris budget for "Strategy and Social Responsibility",
detailing $180,000 in payments to Steven Milloy (pp. 13 & 66). Accessed
5 October 2006.
21. ^ Milloy column on global warming, published 12 October 2006, in
which Milloy is described as a "junk science expert." Accessed 16
October 2006.
22. ^ Climate Change: The Denial Industry, by George Monbiot.
Published as an excerpt in The Guardian on September 19, 2006; accessed
July 23, 2007.
23. ^ a b [2] American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation article on
Steven Milloy. Accessed July 26, 2007.
24. ^ Cato Institute Q&A with Steve Milloy. Accessed 10 October 2006.
25. ^ [3]
26. ^ Ultimate Global Warming Challenge, a Steven Milloy website.
Accessed August 24, 2007.
27. ^ Polar Bear Scare on Thin Ice, by Steven Milloy, FoxNews.com, 12
Nov., 2004
28. ^ [4]
29. ^ DemandDebate.com Press Release, PRNewsWire.com, Oct 1, 2007.
30. ^ Interview with Borelli on The Young Turks, accessed on
www.lastvideo.net, July 12, 2007.
31. ^ Bureaucrash and the "Demand Debate" Campaign Crash Live Earth
New York, Competitive Enterprise Institute Press Release, July9th, 2007.
32. ^ An Empty Uniform, by Michael Gough and Steven Milloy, The Wall
Street Journal, 10 February, 1998
33. ^ NCPA Idea House: Who Needs A Surgeon General?
34. ^ At Risk from the Pesticide Myth, by Steven Milloy, July 28, 2000
35. ^ a b The Malaria Clock: A Green Eco-Imperialist Legacy of Death
36. ^ Rachel Carson, Mass Murderer? The creation of an
anti-environmental myth, Aaron Swartz, Extra!, September/October 2007.
37. ^ The UnAustralian. Retrieved on 2007-06-29.
38. ^ Day of Reckoning for DDT Foes?, by Steven Milloy, FoxNews.com,
Thursday, September 21, 2006
39. ^ a b Article: Asbestos Could Have Saved WTC Lives, FoxNews.com.
Published September 14, 2001.
40. ^ Criticism of Milloy's comments by the International Ban
Asbestos Secretariat. Accessed 11 October 2006.
41. ^ Criticism of Milloy for blaming asbestos removal for the WTC
collapses, from the International Ban Asbestos Secretariat. Accessed 16
October 2006.
42. ^ Steven Milloy (2002-08-30). Quorn & CSPI: The Other Fake Meat.
Fox News. Retrieved on 2006-05-20.
43. ^ Scott C. Wallace, CEO of Gardenburger. Gardenburger rebuttal
to: "The Other Fake Meat" by Steven Milloy. Retrieved on 2006-05-20.
44. ^ Steve Milloy. Q and A With Steve Milloy. Retrieved on 2007-01-11.
45. ^ United States Senate Lobby Filing Disclosure Program, listing
Milloy as a lobbyist for the EOP Group from 1998-2000, accessed 28 June
2006.
46. ^ Washington Lobbyists, 1996, Columbia Books, Washington DC.
47. ^ Saving the Planet With Pestilent Statistics, by Karen Charman.
Published in the PR Watch newsletter, Vol. 6 No. 4 (1999). Accessed June
29, 2007.
48. ^ "Junk Science and the Art of Spin-Doctoring" Stewart Fist Old
Dominion University College of Sciences.
49. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release, criticizing
Microsoft for abandoning the use of PVC in its packing materials.
Accessed 11 October 2006.
50. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release chastising the
Business Roundtable for insufficient vigilance in the defense of
capitalism. Accessed 11 October 2006.
51. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release criticizing General
Electric's environmental policy. Accessed 11 October 2006.
52. ^ "Strange Bedfellows: Politics and Investment Fund", from the
Boston Herald. Published 24 Jan 2006. Accessed 11 October 2006.
53. ^ "Thank You for Investing: A very curious right-wing mutual
fund." Article by Daniel Gross from Slate magazine, published 4 May
2006. Accessed 11 October 2006.
54. ^ "Battle For The Boardroom", by Tom Borelli, posted on
Junkscience.com. Accessed 17 October 2006.

[edit] See also

* Global Climate Coalition
* American Petroleum Institute

[edit] External links

[edit] Milloy's Websites

* Junkscience.com
* CSRWatch.com
* The Ultimate Global Warming Challenge

[edit] Tobacco Document Archives

* The Legacy Tobacco Documents Library at the University of
California, San Francisco.
* The Philip Morris USA Document Site

[edit] News coverage

* "The Trashman Speweth" and "How Big Tobacco Helped Create "'the
Junkman'", at PR Watch
* "The Junkman Climbs to the Top", from Environmental Science &
Technology, May 11, 2005
* "Smoked Out" at The New Republic (also available at
Freepress.net), January 26, 2006
* "Strange bedfellows: Politics and investment fund" in the Boston
Herald, January 24, 2006
* "Climate Change, The Denial Industry", The Guardian, September
19, 2006
* "Some Like It Hot", article on Milloy's connection to ExxonMobil
from Mother Jones, May/June 2005
* "If You Seek the Truth, Don't Trash the Science", Washington
Post, by John Schwartz, February 21, 1999
* Exxon Secrets: Steven Milloy

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> Steven Milloy
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> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking
> what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
> secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease

Huh? False claims?
So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did not
result in millions of deaths.
Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of secondhand
smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
Are you then?
Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into
one!



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http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html

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http://www.warwickhughes.com/

Regards
Bonzo

"If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo


"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences


“What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes”
Dr. Richard Lindzen


[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen

Ext User(B0NZ0)
15-01-2008, 03:43 PM
"Vote out Brendan Nelson" <vote@out.com> wrote in message
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> Steven Milloy
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
> Jump to: navigation, search
> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking
> what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
> secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease



Huh? False claims?
So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did not
result in millions of deaths.
Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of secondhand
smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
Are you then?
Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into
one!



Get The TRUE Facts At
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html

Excellent Links At
http://www.warwickhughes.com/

Regards
Bonzo

"If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo


"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences


“What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes”
Dr. Richard Lindzen


[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen

Ext User(Enough Already)
15-01-2008, 03:53 PM
On Jan 14, 8:16*pm, Vote out Brendan Nelson <v...@out.com> wrote:

> Steven Milloy
> *From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
> Jump to: navigation, search
>
> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what
> Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."

Unlike Milloy-style propaganda, the truth really does need repeating.
Sites like his are popular because millions of people only believe
what makes them feel good. They are like drug addicts who never quite
experience the real world because they can't face the pain; not
knowing that facing it is the only way to resolve it. Millions of
smokers kill themselves for pleasure in the same manner.

Anxietycenter.com is another growth-addict favorite. Evidence is for
"worriers" according to Alan Caruba. There are too many such sites to
keep track of. They reflect the human propensity to medicate the mind
until reality doesn't matter. Anti-environmentalism is a knee-jerk
reaction to a _truthful_ reaction to the state of the world. It's like
telling someone their house really isn't on fire because fire engines
would drown out the football game.

When the whole world can be pared down to "I got mine, forget the
rest," life does become easier for a cocooned individual, but, outside
the door, things keep getting worse. Never forget that the main driver
is overpopulation.

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/

Conservatives have the world all figured out and hate to be told they
don't.

Ext User(B0NZ0)
15-01-2008, 04:03 PM
"Vote out Brendan Nelson" <vote@out.com> wrote in message
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> Steven Milloy
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
> Jump to: navigation, search
> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking
> what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
> secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease



Huh? False claims?
So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did not
result in millions of deaths.
Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of secondhand
smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
Are you then?
Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into
one!



Get The TRUE Facts At
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html

Excellent Links At
http://www.warwickhughes.com/

Regards
Bonzo

"If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo


"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences


"What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes"
Dr. Richard Lindzen


[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen

Ext User(B0NZ0)
15-01-2008, 04:13 PM
"Enough Already" <enough_already@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> Steven Milloy
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
> Jump to: navigation, search
> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking
> what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
> secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease



Huh? False claims?
So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did not
result in millions of deaths.
Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of secondhand
smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
Are you then?
Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into
one!



Get The TRUE Facts At
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html

Excellent Links At
http://www.warwickhughes.com/

Regards
Bonzo

"If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo


"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences


"What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes"
Dr. Richard Lindzen


[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen

Ext User(Enough Already)
15-01-2008, 04:23 PM
On Jan 14, 8:35*pm, "B0NZ0" <boo...@optusnt.com.au> wrote:

> "If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
> CO2
> contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
> floor"
> D'Aleo

You keep repeating that junk, but a much better analogy is saran wrap
over a car window making someone die from heat stroke. All it takes is
a small barrier, widely dispersed or in a single layer. There is much
to learn about science but some people never try.

Get past the initial "golly gee!" size-comparison and look at the
actual function of the barrier. If it's physically capable of trapping
heat, it doesn't _need_ to be present in large concentrations. Do you
and this D'Aleo clown care to comprehend that?

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/

Birth control: the ultimate green technology.

Ext User(B0NZ0)
15-01-2008, 04:43 PM
"Enough Already" <enough_already@lycos.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 14, 8:35 pm, "B0NZ0" <boo...@optusnt.com.au> wrote:

> "If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
> CO2
> contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
> floor"
> D'Aleo
You keep repeating that junk, but a much better analogy is saran wrap
over a car window making someone die from heat stroke.
****

ROTFLMAO
Your analogy is nothing like the earth's atmosphere.
Try again buddy.




Get The TRUE Facts At
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html

Excellent Links At
http://www.warwickhughes.com/

Regards
Bonzo

"If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo


"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences


"What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes"
Dr. Richard Lindzen


[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen

Ext User(Vote out Brendan Nelson)
16-01-2008, 05:05 AM
B0NZ0 wrote:
> "Vote out Brendan Nelson" <vote@out.com> wrote in message
> news:478c33da$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> Steven Milloy
>> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
>> Jump to: navigation, search
>> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
>> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking
>> what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
>> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
>> secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease
>
> Huh? False claims?
> So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did not
> result in millions of deaths.
> Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of secondhand
> smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
> Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
> Are you then?
> Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into one!
>
>
>
> Get The TRUE Facts At
> http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html
>
> Excellent Links At
> http://www.warwickhughes.com/
>
> Regards
> Bonzo
>
> "If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic CO2
> contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first floor"
> D'Aleo
>
>
> "...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
> anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
> panic us"
> Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
> National Academy of Sciences
>
>
> “What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
> only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes”
> Dr. Richard Lindzen
>
>
> [most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
> untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
> forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen
I would trust Wikipedia than that fucked site with no creditability

Ext User(Vote out Brendan Nelson)
16-01-2008, 05:05 AM
B0NZ0 wrote:
> "Vote out Brendan Nelson" <vote@out.com> wrote in message
> news:478c33da$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> Steven Milloy
>> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
>> Jump to: navigation, search
>> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
>> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking
>> what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
>> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
>> secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease
>
>
>
> Huh? False claims?
> So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did not
> result in millions of deaths.
> Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of secondhand
> smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
> Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
> Are you then?
> Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into one!
>
>
>
> Get The TRUE Facts At
> http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html
>
> Excellent Links At
> http://www.warwickhughes.com/
>
> Regards
> Bonzo
>
> "If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic CO2
> contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first floor"
> D'Aleo
>
>
> "...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
> anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
> panic us"
> Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
> National Academy of Sciences
>
>
> “What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
> only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes”
> Dr. Richard Lindzen
>
>
> [most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
> untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
> forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen
Steven Milloy is a criminal who wants kill little kids

Ext User(Vote out Brendan Nelson)
16-01-2008, 05:05 AM
Vote out Brendan Nelson wrote:
> Steven Milloy
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
> Jump to: navigation, search
>
> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what
> Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>
> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants, secondhand
> smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease.[1] Milloy also runs
> CSRWatch.com, which monitors and criticizes the corporate social
> responsibility movement. From the 1990s until the end of 2005, he was an
> adjunct scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute, which hosted the
> JunkScience.com site. He is currently an adjunct scholar at the
> Competitive Enterprise Institute. Milloy is head of the Free Enterprise
> Action Fund, a mutual fund he runs with former tobacco executive Tom
> Borelli. He also operates the Advancement of Sound Science Center, a
> non-profit organization which is critical of environmental science, from
> his home in Potomac, Maryland. Milloy has authored four books.
>
> Milloy's close financial and organizational ties to tobacco and oil
> companies have been the subject of criticism from a number of sources,
> as Milloy has consistently criticized the science linking secondhand
> smoke to health risks and human activity to global warming.[2][3][4][5]
> Contents
> [hide]
>
> * 1 Educational background
> * 2 Career
> * 3 Junk science
> o 3.1 Secondhand smoke
> + 3.1.1 Links to tobacco industry
> o 3.2 The environment
> o 3.3 Climate Change
> o 3.4 U.S. Surgeon General
> o 3.5 DDT
> o 3.6 Asbestos and the World Trade Center
> o 3.7 Food safety
> o 3.8 Evolution
> * 4 Registration as a lobbyist
> * 5 Corporate activism
> * 6 Responses
> * 7 Books
> * 8 Notes
> * 9 See also
> * 10 External links
> o 10.1 Milloy's Websites
> o 10.2 Tobacco Document Archives
> o 10.3 News coverage
>
> [edit] Educational background
>
> Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from Johns Hopkins University, a
> Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from the Johns Hopkins
> University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctor from the
> University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown
> University Law Center.[6]
>
> [edit] Career
>
> According to his website, in 1994, Milloy was project leader of the
> Regulatory Impact Analysis Project, Inc. for the U.S. Department of
> Energy. The Cato Institute, where he was listed as an adjunct scholar
> published his work from 1995 to 2005. Milloy began his criticism of
> "Junk science" as president of the Environmental Policy Analysis Network
> in 1996. In March 1997, Milloy became president of the Advancement of
> Sound Science Coalition (TASSC), which later became the Advancement of
> Sound Science Center.[7] He has been a correspondent for Fox News since
> 2002.
>
> [edit] Junk science
>
> Main article: Junk science
>
> Milloy defines junk science as "faulty scientific data and analysis used
> to advance special and, often, hidden agendas." According to Milloy,
> "the junk science 'mob' includes: The MEDIA, [who] may use junk science
> for sensational headlines and programming…PERSONAL INJURY LAWYERS, [who]
> may use junk science to bamboozle juries into awarding huge verdicts,"
> and others.[8] Milloy claims that there are examples of "junk science"
> which have been identified as wholly without foundation; examples
> include two papers published in Science.[9] An editorial in the American
> Journal of Public Health noted that "... attacking the science
> underlying difficult public policy decisions with the label of 'junk'
> has become a common ploy for those opposed to regulation. One need only
> peruse JunkScience.com to get a sense of the long list of public health
> issues for which research has been so labeled."[10]
>
> [edit] Secondhand smoke
>
> Milloy has criticized research linking secondhand tobacco smoke to
> cancer, claiming that "the vast majority of studies reported no
> statistical association."[11] In 1993, Milloy dismissed an Environmental
> Protection Agency report linking secondhand tobacco smoke to cancer as
> "a joke." Five years later Milloy claimed vindication after a federal
> court criticized the EPA's conclusions. However, the court's finding
> against the EPA was overturned on appeal.
>
> When the British Medical Journal published a meta-analysis confirming a
> link in 1997, Milloy wrote, "Of the 37 studies, only 7—less than 19
> percent—reported statistically significant increases in lung cancer
> incidence... Meta-analysis of the secondhand smoke studies was a joke
> when EPA did it in 1993. And it remains a joke today."[12] When another
> researcher published a study linking secondhand smoke to cancer, Milloy
> wrote that she "... must have pictures of journal editors in
> compromising positions with farm animals. How else can you explain her
> studies seeing the light of day?"[3]
>
> [edit] Links to tobacco industry
>
> While at FoxNews.com, Milloy has continued to criticize claims that
> secondhand tobacco smoke causes cancer.[2] However, with the release of
> confidential tobacco industry documents as part of the Tobacco Master
> Settlement Agreement, the objectivity of Milloy's stance on secondhand
> smoke has been questioned. Based on this documentation, journalists Paul
> D. Thacker and George Monbiot, as well as the Union of Concerned
> Scientists and others, have contended that Milloy is a paid advocate for
> the tobacco industry.[2][4][13]
>
> Milloy's junkscience.com website was reviewed and revised by a public
> relations firm hired by the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.[14] Milloy
> also worked as executive director of The Advancement of Sound Science
> Coalition (TASSC), a "front group" established in 1993 by Philip Morris
> and its public relations firm "to expand and assist Philip Morris in its
> efforts with issues in targeted states."[2][15][16] Philip Morris memos
> describe "utilizing TASSC as a tool in targeted legislative
> battles";[17] a 1994 Philip Morris memo listed TASSC among its "Tools to
> Affect Legislative Decisions".[18] According its 1997 annual report,
> TASSC "sponsored" junkscience.com.[19]
>
> The New Republic reported that Milloy, who is presented by Fox News as
> an independent journalist, was under contract to provide consulting
> services to Philip Morris through the end of 2005.[2] In 2000 & 2001,
> for example, Milloy received a total of $180,000 in payments from Philip
> Morris for consulting services.[20] A spokesperson for Fox News stated,
> "Fox News was unaware of Milloy's connection with Philip Morris. Any
> affiliation he had should have been disclosed."[2] Milloy's association
> with the Cato Institute has since ended; however, as of July 2007, he
> continues to write for FoxNews.com, where he is described as a "junk
> science expert."[21] Monbiot wrote: "Even after Fox News was told about
> the money [Milloy] had been receiving from Philip Morris and Exxon, it
> continued to employ him, without informing its readers about his
> interests."[22] Thacker wrote:
>
> Objective viewers long ago realized that Fox News has a political
> agenda. But, when a pundit promotes this agenda while on the take from
> corporations that benefit from it, then Fox News has gone one disturbing
> step further.[2]
>
> The American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation similarly stated that
> "...Milloy has made it his life’s work to deny scientific studies
> conducted and published by the world’s most reputable and credible
> scientific agencies... and label their objective evidence as 'junk
> science'. Milloy has a lucrative and lengthy relationship with the
> tobacco industry."[23]
>
> [edit] The environment
>
> Milloy has been critical of the Clean Air Act, acknowledging that it has
> improved air quality but arguing that it has forced Americans to
> "surrender many freedoms." Milloy argued that "air pollution in the U.S.
> was more of an aesthetic than a public health problem [in 1970]. That is
> even more the case today."[24]
>
> Milloy maintains the position that "The ozone hole is another area where
> knowledge is insufficient to draw conclusions. There is no "hole," but
> only a thinning of the stratospheric ozone layer over the South Pole.
> The size and depth of the "hole" varies from year to year. No one knows
> why ... it is unclear what effect CFC releases have had on the Earth's
> ozone layer."[25]
>
> [edit] Climate Change
>
> Milloy has consistently argued from the position of a global warming
> skeptic that human activity has little impact on climate change and that
> regulations to limit greenhouse gas emissions are unwarranted and
> harmful to business interests. He has recently offered a prize of $125
> 000 to anyone who can "prove, in a scientific manner, that humans are
> causing harmful global warming," stating that "JunkScience.com, in its
> sole discretion, will determine the winner, if any."[26]
>
> In 2004, when the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment was released by the
> Arctic Council and the International Arctic Science Committee, Milloy
> wrote that the report "pretty much debunks itself."[27] Milloy's
> assertions were disputed by the lead author of the study,[5] as well as
> by climate scientist Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for
> Climate Impact Research, who criticized Milloy for taking "one result
> out of context and present[ing] unwarranted conclusions, knowing that a
> lay audience will not easily recognise their fallacy."[28]
>
> In April 1998 Milloy was part of the Global Climate Science Team (GCST),
> which was founded in part by ExxonMobil to work out a strategy to
> influence the media to "understand (recognize) uncertainties in climate
> science."[4] The Union of Concerned Scientists reported that Milloy
> helped develop the GCST action plan, which involved "invest[ing]
> millions of dollars to manufacture uncertainty on the issue of global
> warming."[4] In 2005, it was reported that non-profit organizations
> operating out of Milloy's home, and in some cases employing no staff,
> have received large payments from ExxonMobil during his tenure with Fox
> News.[5][2][4] A Fox News spokesperson stated that Milloy is "...
> affiliated with several not-for-profit groups that possibly may receive
> funding from Exxon, but he certainly does not receive funding directly
> from Exxon."[5]
>
> Milloy is the Executive Director of DemandDebate.com,[29] an
> organization that seeks to eliminate what it calls "bias" in
> environmental education.[30] A Competitive Enterprise Institute press
> release says he "coordinated" the group's activities at the recent Live
> Earth concert in New York, at which a plane circled the event pulling a
> banner reading, "DON’T BELIEVE AL GORE — DEMAND DEBATE.COM."[31]
>
> [edit] U.S. Surgeon General
>
> In 1998, Milloy, writing on behalf of TASSC, co-wrote an article which
> called for the abolition of the position of United States Surgeon
> General. "We have not had a surgeon general for three years. Has anyone
> noticed? Is anyone's health at risk," asked the authors.[32][33]
>
> [edit] DDT
>
> Milloy has campaigned against the 1972 ban on non-public-health uses of
> DDT in the United States and in favour of wider use of DDT against
> malaria, which he claims could be largely eliminated if DDT were used
> more aggressively. He has been particularly critical of Rachel Carson,
> who, he wrote, "misrepresented the existing science on bird reproduction
> and was wrong about DDT causing cancer."[34]
>
> Milloy's junkscience.com web site features The Malaria Clock: A Green
> Eco-Imperialist Legacy of Death,[35] which he claims counts up the
> approximate number of new malaria cases and deaths in the world, most of
> which he says could have been prevented by the use of DDT. As of June
> 2007, Milloy's clock stands at more than 94 million dead, 90% of whom
> are said to have been expectant mothers and children under five years of
> age. "Infanticide on this scale appears without parallel in human
> history," writes Milloy. "This is not ecology. This is not conservation.
> This is genocide."
>
> Critics have argued that the the clock holds Carson "responsible for
> more deaths than malaria has caused in total,"[36] a charge that a
> footnote at the bottom of the malaria clock webpage seems to
> acknowledges, stating: "Note that some of these cases would have
> occurred irrespective of DDT use. Note also that, while enormously
> influential, the US ban did not immediately terminate global DDT use and
> that developing world malaria mortality increased over time rather than
> instantly leaping to the estimated value of 2,700,000 deaths per year.
> However, certain in the knowledge that even one human sacrificed on the
> altar of green misanthropy is infinitely too many, I let stand the
> linear extrapolation of numbers from an instant start on the 1st of the
> month following this murderous ban."[35]
>
> Responding to an opinion column relying on Milloy's arguments,
> parasitologists Alan Lymbery and Andrew Thompson wrote, in 2004:
>
> The use of DDT...is not banned for public health use in most areas
> of the world where malaria is endemic. Indeed, DDT was recently exempted
> from a proposed worldwide ban on organophosphate [sic] chemicals. One of
> the important factors in declining use of DDT was decreasing
> effectiveness and greater costs because of the development of resistance
> in mosquitoes. Resistance was largely caused by the indiscriminate,
> widespread use of DDT to control agricultural pests in the tropics. To
> blame a reduction in DDT usage for the death of 10-30 million people
> from malaria is not just simple-minded, it is demonstrably wrong.[37]
>
> In 2006, following a press release by the World Health Organization
> recommending more extensive use of indoor residual spraying with DDT and
> other pesticides, Milloy wrote, "It’s a relief that the WHO has finally
> come to its senses."[38]
>
> [edit] Asbestos and the World Trade Center
>
> On September 14, 2001, three days after terrorist attacks destroyed the
> World Trade Center, Milloy wrote that the World Trade Center towers
> might have stood longer, preventing many casualties, had the use of
> asbestos fire-resistant lagging not been discontinued during the Towers'
> construction.[39] Milloy's article reported that, "In 1971, New York
> City banned the use of asbestos in spray fireproofing. At that time,
> asbestos insulating material had only been sprayed up to the 64th floor
> of the World Trade Center towers," and cited an expert who questioned
> the efficacy of the asbestos-free lagging that was used on the steel in
> the upper floors.
>
> Advocates for banning asbestos were highly critical of the article,[39]
> questioning his motives and disputing his conclusions. The International
> Ban Asbestos Secretariat charged him with "insensitivity that is hard to
> fathom."[40]
>
> Laurie Kazan-Allen of the Secretariat wrote:
>
> It takes a certain kind of person to capitalize on a human
> catastrophe such as the attacks on the World Trade Centre. While the
> rest of us remained desperate for news, some were plotting how these
> events could be used to maximum advantage. ... The fact that Milloy
> chose to make this and other such statements as ground zero was still
> smouldering shows an insensitivity that is hard to fathom. What decent
> human being could do anything during those early days but watch and wait
> as the emergency services worked 24/7 to locate survivors?[41]
>
> [edit] Food safety
>
> Responding to criticism of the safety of the food product Quorn by the
> Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), Milloy accused CSPI of
> having an undisclosed relationship with Quorn's main competitor,
> Gardenburger. Writing for FoxNews.com, Milloy said that "CSPI appears to
> have an unsavory relationship with Quorn competitor, Gardenburger" and
> called the CSPI's complaints "unscrupulous shrieking".[42] Gardenburger
> denied Milloy's accusation, stating that Milloy's allegation of an
> "unsavory relationship" was "untrue and groundless".[43]
>
> [edit] Evolution
>
> Milloy's views on evolution are as follows:
>
> Explanations of human evolution are not likely to move beyond the
> stage of hypothesis or conjecture. There is no scientific way — i.e., no
> experiment or other means of reliable study — for explaining how humans
> developed. Without a valid scientific method for proving a hypothesis,
> no indisputable explanation can exist.
>
> The process of evolution can be scientifically demonstrated in some
> lower life forms, but this is a far cry from explaining how humans
> developed.
>
> That said, some sort of evolutionary process seems most likely in my
> opinion. But there will probably always be enough uncertainty in any
> explanation of human evolution to give critics plenty of room for
> doubt.[44]
>
> [edit] Registration as a lobbyist
>
> The United States Senate Lobby Filing Disclosure Program lists Milloy
> was as a registered lobbyist for the EOP Group for the years
> 1998–2000.[45] The guidebook Washington Representatives also listed him
> as a lobbyist for the EOP Group in 1996.[46] The EOP Group's clients
> include the American Crop Protection Association (pesticides), the
> Chlorine Chemistry Council, Edison Electric Institute (fossil and
> nuclear energy), Fort Howard Corp. (a paper manufacturer) and the
> National Mining Association. Milloy himself was personally registered as
> a lobbyist for Monsanto and the International Food Additives
> Council.[47][23]
>
> Milloy denies ever lobbying, and in a 1998 email response to his
> registration as a lobbyist under EOP he wrote:
>
> I do not lobby for ANYONE. Before I became executive director of
> TASSC, I did some technical consulting for a D.C. firm which had the
> policy of registering all its employees and consultants as lobbyists
> (whether or not they lobbied) pursuant to a new law passed in 1995. I am
> aware of the listing and have asked it to be corrected since I no longer
> work for that firm.[48]
>
> [edit] Corporate activism
>
> Milloy and former tobacco executive Tom Borelli run a mutual fund called
> the Free Enterprise Action Fund (FEAF). The fund has criticised
> companies that voluntarily adopt high environmental standards. Through
> the platform of the FEAF, Milloy has criticized a number of other
> corporations for adopting environmental initiatives:
>
> * The FEAF criticized Microsoft for abandoning the use of PVC in its
> packing materials.[49]
> * Milloy accused the Business Roundtable, a pro-business
> organization of CEO's, of being "silent about current threats to
> business", adding, "Last September, we warned 18 member company CEOs
> participating in the BRT’s 'sustainable growth' initiative to stop
> wasting corporate resources."[50]
> * Milloy and Borelli argued that General Electric is harming its
> shareholders by launching a program to curtail greenhouse gas emissions.
> They also accused G.E. of ignoring the input of global warming skeptic
> groups such as the Cato Institute and the oil-industry-funded
> Competitive Enterprise Institute in forming their environmental policy.[51]
>
> FEAF has been criticised by investment analyst Chuck Jaffe as being "an
> advocacy group in search of assets." Jaffe concludes "Strip away the
> rhetoric, and you’re getting a very expensive, underperforming index
> fund, while Milloy and his partner Thomas Borelli get a platform for
> raising their pet issues."[52]
>
> Similarly, Daniel Gross, in a Slate magazine article, wrote that FEAF
> "seems to be a lobbying enterprise masquerading as a mutual fund." Gross
> noted that Milloy and Tom Borelli, the former head of corporate
> scientific affairs for Philip Morris, lack any money management
> experience; he also noted that FEAF had badly underperformed the S&P 500
> during its first 10 months of existence. Gross concluded that "...in the
> short term, it looks like Borelli and Milloy are essentially paying the
> fund for the privilege of using it as a platform to broadcast their
> views on corporate governance, global warming, and a host of other
> issues."[53]
>
> [edit] Responses
>
> Milloy and Borelli have defended Exxon against criticism for funding
> global warming sceptics and others, though without declaring their own
> financial interest. In September 2006, Milloy's Junkscience.com site
> reproduced the following excerpt of a piece by Borelli published in
> Townhall.com, criticising the British Royal Society:
>
> Battle for the boardroom — After over 200 years of independence, the
> British are still trying to direct U.S. public policy. The Royal Society
> — the British equivalent of the National Academy of Sciences — recently
> admonished Exxon Mobil for supporting organizations that question the
> link between man-made greenhouse gas emissions and global warming.
>
> Notwithstanding the offensive nature of a prestigious organization
> attempting to silence scientific debate, the Royal Society’s letter
> sheds light on the larger effort employed by agents of the Left to
> shut-down corporate support for pro-growth political organizations,
> politicians and policies. By cutting-off the financial supply lines for
> free-market thought and policies, these agents — labor unions, NGOs, the
> media — hope to dominate public debate and control public opinion. As
> these tactics continue to meet with success, liberal policies and
> politicians will gain a huge strategic advantage.
>
> For those of us interested in promoting pro-growth ideas, loss of
> corporate support represents a huge threat to sound public policy. There
> is too much money, power and influence wielded by companies and
> free-market advocates can’t afford to give up that high ground to the
> Left.[54]
>
> [edit] Books
>
> Milloy has written four books:
>
> * Junk Science Judo: Self-defense Against Health Scares and Scams,
> Cato Institute, 2001, ISBN 1930865120
> * Silencing Science, Cato Institute, 1999, ISBN 1882577728 (with
> Michael Gough)
> * Science Without Sense: The Risky Business of Public Health
> Research, Cato Institute, 1996, ISBN 1882577345
> * Science-Based Risk Assessment: A Piece of the Superfund Puzzle,
> National Environmental Policy Institute, 1995, ISBN 0964746301
>
> Milloy's junkscience.com site lists positive comments, derived from
> prepublication reviews of his books Silencing Science and Junk Science
> Judo, published on the back cover (blurb) of those books. Those cited on
> junkscience.com are the late Philip Abelson, editor of Science from 1962
> to 1984, and D.A. Henderson, Dean of the Johns Hopkins School of Public
> Health from 1977 to 1990. Abelson's review states "Milloy is one of a
> small group who devotes time, energy and intelligence to the defense of
> the truth of science."
>
> Others with favourable reviews cited in the blurb of Junk Science Judo
> are Ronald Bailey, Frederick Seitz and John Stossel.
>
> [edit] Notes
>
> 1. ^ Milloy's Website, junkscience.com, accessed 20 Sept 2006.
> 2. ^ a b c d e f g h "Smoked Out: Pundit For Hire", published in The
> New Republic, accessed 20 Sept 2006. Also available without subscription
> at FreePress.net.
> 3. ^ a b PRWatch.org article detailing Milloy's ties to the tobacco
> industry, accessed 23 Sept 2006.
> 4. ^ a b c d e Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like
> Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science. Union of Concerned
> Scientists (3 January 2007). Retrieved on 2007-01-11.
> 5. ^ a b c d Some Like It Hot, Mother Jones article on Milloy
> 6. ^ Milloy's history and C.V., from his website junkscience.com,
> accessed 20 Sept 2006.
> 7. ^ [1].
> 8. ^ Junk science?. junkscience.com. Retrieved on 2007-07-20.
> 9. ^ Steven Milloy (December 22, 2005). A Junk Science Christmas
> Carol. FoxNews.com. Retrieved on 2007-07-22.
> 10. ^ Samet JM, Burke TA (2001). "Turning science into junk: the
> tobacco industry and passive smoking". American journal of public health
> 91 (11): 1742-4. PMID 11684591.
> 11. ^ Secondhand Smokescreen, By Steven Milloy, March 9, 2001
> 12. ^ Secondhand Joking, by Steven Milloy
> 13. ^ PRWatch.com article describing the financial links between
> Milloy and the tobacco industry, accessed 20 Sept 2006.
> 14. ^ Activity Report, R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., December 1996,
> describing input from R.J.R. Tobacco's P.R. firm into Milloy's
> junkscience website. From the Legacy Tobacco Documents Library at the
> University of California, San Francisco. Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 15. ^ Philip Morris 1994 Budget Draft, available at the Philip Morris
> Document Archive. Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 16. ^ Ong EK, Glantz SA (2000). "Tobacco industry efforts subverting
> International Agency for Research on Cancer's second-hand smoke study".
> Lancet 355 (9211): 1253-9. PMID 10770318.
> 17. ^ Letter from Margery Kraus, president of TASSC, to Vic Han,
> Director of Communications for Philip Morris, dated 23 September 1993.
> Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 18. ^ Philip Morris Corporate Affairs Budget Presentation, 1994, from
> the Philip Morris Document Archive. Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 19. ^ Annual Report - 1997, Steven Milloy, January 7th, 1998. Document
> accessed at Legacy Tobacco Documents Library on July 7, 2007.
> 20. ^ Philip Morris budget for "Strategy and Social Responsibility",
> detailing $180,000 in payments to Steven Milloy (pp. 13 & 66). Accessed
> 5 October 2006.
> 21. ^ Milloy column on global warming, published 12 October 2006, in
> which Milloy is described as a "junk science expert." Accessed 16
> October 2006.
> 22. ^ Climate Change: The Denial Industry, by George Monbiot.
> Published as an excerpt in The Guardian on September 19, 2006; accessed
> July 23, 2007.
> 23. ^ a b [2] American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation article on Steven
> Milloy. Accessed July 26, 2007.
> 24. ^ Cato Institute Q&A with Steve Milloy. Accessed 10 October 2006.
> 25. ^ [3]
> 26. ^ Ultimate Global Warming Challenge, a Steven Milloy website.
> Accessed August 24, 2007.
> 27. ^ Polar Bear Scare on Thin Ice, by Steven Milloy, FoxNews.com, 12
> Nov., 2004
> 28. ^ [4]
> 29. ^ DemandDebate.com Press Release, PRNewsWire.com, Oct 1, 2007.
> 30. ^ Interview with Borelli on The Young Turks, accessed on
> www.lastvideo.net, July 12, 2007.
> 31. ^ Bureaucrash and the "Demand Debate" Campaign Crash Live Earth
> New York, Competitive Enterprise Institute Press Release, July9th, 2007.
> 32. ^ An Empty Uniform, by Michael Gough and Steven Milloy, The Wall
> Street Journal, 10 February, 1998
> 33. ^ NCPA Idea House: Who Needs A Surgeon General?
> 34. ^ At Risk from the Pesticide Myth, by Steven Milloy, July 28, 2000
> 35. ^ a b The Malaria Clock: A Green Eco-Imperialist Legacy of Death
> 36. ^ Rachel Carson, Mass Murderer? The creation of an
> anti-environmental myth, Aaron Swartz, Extra!, September/October 2007.
> 37. ^ The UnAustralian. Retrieved on 2007-06-29.
> 38. ^ Day of Reckoning for DDT Foes?, by Steven Milloy, FoxNews.com,
> Thursday, September 21, 2006
> 39. ^ a b Article: Asbestos Could Have Saved WTC Lives, FoxNews.com.
> Published September 14, 2001.
> 40. ^ Criticism of Milloy's comments by the International Ban Asbestos
> Secretariat. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 41. ^ Criticism of Milloy for blaming asbestos removal for the WTC
> collapses, from the International Ban Asbestos Secretariat. Accessed 16
> October 2006.
> 42. ^ Steven Milloy (2002-08-30). Quorn & CSPI: The Other Fake Meat.
> Fox News. Retrieved on 2006-05-20.
> 43. ^ Scott C. Wallace, CEO of Gardenburger. Gardenburger rebuttal to:
> "The Other Fake Meat" by Steven Milloy. Retrieved on 2006-05-20.
> 44. ^ Steve Milloy. Q and A With Steve Milloy. Retrieved on 2007-01-11.
> 45. ^ United States Senate Lobby Filing Disclosure Program, listing
> Milloy as a lobbyist for the EOP Group from 1998-2000, accessed 28 June
> 2006.
> 46. ^ Washington Lobbyists, 1996, Columbia Books, Washington DC.
> 47. ^ Saving the Planet With Pestilent Statistics, by Karen Charman.
> Published in the PR Watch newsletter, Vol. 6 No. 4 (1999). Accessed June
> 29, 2007.
> 48. ^ "Junk Science and the Art of Spin-Doctoring" Stewart Fist Old
> Dominion University College of Sciences.
> 49. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release, criticizing Microsoft
> for abandoning the use of PVC in its packing materials. Accessed 11
> October 2006.
> 50. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release chastising the
> Business Roundtable for insufficient vigilance in the defense of
> capitalism. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 51. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release criticizing General
> Electric's environmental policy. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 52. ^ "Strange Bedfellows: Politics and Investment Fund", from the
> Boston Herald. Published 24 Jan 2006. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 53. ^ "Thank You for Investing: A very curious right-wing mutual
> fund." Article by Daniel Gross from Slate magazine, published 4 May
> 2006. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 54. ^ "Battle For The Boardroom", by Tom Borelli, posted on
> Junkscience.com. Accessed 17 October 2006.
>
> [edit] See also
>
> * Global Climate Coalition
> * American Petroleum Institute
>
> [edit] External links
>
> [edit] Milloy's Websites
>
> * Junkscience.com
> * CSRWatch.com
> * The Ultimate Global Warming Challenge
>
> [edit] Tobacco Document Archives
>
> * The Legacy Tobacco Documents Library at the University of
> California, San Francisco.
> * The Philip Morris USA Document Site
>
> [edit] News coverage
>
> * "The Trashman Speweth" and "How Big Tobacco Helped Create "'the
> Junkman'", at PR Watch
> * "The Junkman Climbs to the Top", from Environmental Science &
> Technology, May 11, 2005
> * "Smoked Out" at The New Republic (also available at
> Freepress.net), January 26, 2006
> * "Strange bedfellows: Politics and investment fund" in the Boston
> Herald, January 24, 2006
> * "Climate Change, The Denial Industry", The Guardian, September 19,
> 2006
> * "Some Like It Hot", article on Milloy's connection to ExxonMobil
> from Mother Jones, May/June 2005
> * "If You Seek the Truth, Don't Trash the Science", Washington Post,
> by John Schwartz, February 21, 1999
> * Exxon Secrets: Steven Milloy
All of Milloy's claims are crap

Ext User(Doug Bashford)
16-01-2008, 08:03 AM
in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
In <478c45b8$3@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:34:14 +1100, B0NZ0 said about:
Re: Junkscience.com Verified As Factual


Re ..."Don't call me a NATURE HATER !! "

Nature-hater: One who acts like or votes like
one who hates or fears nature.

>** I do not appreciate being labelled as something I am not.

Of course. Nobody hates Nature. And
there are no bigots. Just ask them.
Nobody thinks of themselves that way.
Of course, we know better.
....Which is EXACTLY why I defined it that way.
Actions speak louder than rhetoric. Agree?

=============================

On Fri, 11 Jan, Tunderbar said about:
Re: Why Junk-Sciencers assume EVIL CONSPIRACY


> On Jan 10,(Doug Bashford) wrote:
..............snip

> > You sound like a junk-sciencer. Like the Nature Haters
> > and Creation Sciencers, and Dittohead Parrots, you know
> > almost nothing about your favorite hatred.
>
>
> Junk-sciencer? Nature haters? Creation Sciencers? Dittoheads Parrots?
> You make it sound as if these are recognized organized evil
> conspiratorial groups.

Well, I'm glad you raised that objection. Allow me to
clarify. Of course, this format requires gross
oversimplification.

Junk-sciencer?
Already addressed them. A diversified group, thus "organized"
and "conspiratorial" is out of the question. Common traits as
noted. Most are just cute and ignorant-as-noted, not Evil.
They are the opposite of scientists since they have a powerful
need to shut out input from reality in favor of pet preconcieved
notions and theories. Thus: "near-religious."

* The insane twist the facts to fit their world view.
* The rational change their world view to fit the facts.

Nature haters?
See top of this post. also my post yesterday:
...."Don't call me a NATURE HATER !! "
Some are motivated by religious beliefs such as
Earth, all-powerful toy and toilet from God, some are
what I call optimistic sci-fi Cornucopians, some
are knowingly and unknowingly funded by greedy
corporations, in particular the polluters and
extraction industries and politically supported by
their pet bribed politicians and Limbaugh type
propagandists. Yes, some of those are filthy-Evil.
While these too have formal support structures,
such as Web sites and mailing lists, it's not a
formal conspiracy.

Creation Sciencers?
Of course these guys are not "near-religious" but
typically very religious. Their pet preconcieved
(and often hidden) agenda is to get religion taught as
a science in public schools. While their message
pays lipservice to science, it's both anti-science
and anti-Christian. These are ends-justifies-the-means
people, and thus dishonest. Is that Evil? You tell me.
Conspiritorial? Not formally, just driven by common
desires, although they DO HAVE real and formal support
groups such as Web sites and mailing lists.

Dittoheads Parrots & Co?
Limbaugh was the first, as far as I know, to publicly disavow
all repected inputs from reality: science, academia, etc,
even encyclopedias! ...to popularize the notion
that everything is only a matter of (political) opinion.
This mindset is now evident in much Right Wing rhetoric.

* The insane twist the facts to fit their world view.
* The rational change their world view to fit the facts.


> Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Thanks for the oppurtunity to clarify.

> Can you spell "paranoia"?

You mean like: "I'm not CRAZY!... SCIENCE IS !!?"

> How about "fascism"?

You bet! Wanna talk about that right-wing thang?
Google NewsGroups - Results 346 for fascism author:bashford

Sorted by relevance
fascism...Re: Highway one-oh-one
I happened to have this lying around:
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism,
since it is the merger of state and corporate power."
- Benito Mussolini ,father of fascism.

** "In the counsels of Government, we must guard
** against the acquisition of unwarranted influence,
** whether sought or unsought, by the Military ...
Jun 8 2003 by Doug Bashford - 14 messages - 4 authors

Mussolini's "Corporatism" Group: sci.econ
"Left-wing Fascism." Right. Getting all sides is normally
productive. Perhaps the longest thread on Usenet, over 1000
replies, debates if the Nazis were socialists.
.... Under Fascism in Italy, employers were organized into
syndicates known as "corporations" according to their industries,
and these groups were given ...
Sep 7 2003 by Doug Bashford - 12 messages - 5 authors

Ext User(B0NZ0)
16-01-2008, 10:43 AM
"Vote out Brendan Nelson" <vote@out.com> wrote in message
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> B0NZ0 wrote:
>> "Vote out Brendan Nelson" <vote@out.com> wrote in message
>> news:478c33da$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>> Steven Milloy
>>> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>>> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
>>> Jump to: navigation, search
>>> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com
>>> and runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to
>>> debunking what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>>> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be
>>> false claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
>>> secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease
>>
>>
>>
>> Huh? False claims?
>> So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did
>> not result in millions of deaths.
>> Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of
>> secondhand smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
>> Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
>> Are you then?
>> Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into
>> one!
>>
>>
>>
>> Get The TRUE Facts At
>> http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html
>>
>> Excellent Links At
>> http://www.warwickhughes.com/
>>
>> Regards
>> Bonzo
>>
>> "If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
>> CO2
>> contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
>> floor"
>> D'Aleo
>>
>>
>> "...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
>> anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
>> panic us"
>> Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
>> National Academy of Sciences
>>
>>
>> “What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
>> only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it
>> changes” Dr. Richard Lindzen
>>
>>
>> [most of the current alarm over climate change is based on]
>> "inherently untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that
>> cannot accurately forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard
>> Lindzen
> Steven Milloy is a criminal who wants kill little kids

How about answering my abovementioned questions .


--


Get The TRUE Facts At
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html

Excellent Links At
http://www.warwickhughes.com/

Regards
Bonzo

"If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo


"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences


“What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes”
Dr. Richard Lindzen


[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen

Ext User(B0NZ0)
16-01-2008, 11:53 AM
"Vote out Brendan Nelson" <vote@out.com> wrote in message
news:478cf3dd$0$12542$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> B0NZ0 wrote:
>> "Vote out Brendan Nelson" <vote@out.com> wrote in message
>> news:478c33da$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>>> Steven Milloy
>>> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>>> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
>>> Jump to: navigation, search
>>> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com
>>> and runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to
>>> debunking what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>>> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be
>>> false claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
>>> secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease
>>
>> Huh? False claims?
>> So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did
>> not result in millions of deaths.
>> Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of
>> secondhand smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
>> Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
>> Are you then?
>> Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into
>> one!
>>
>>
>>
>> Get The TRUE Facts At
>> http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html
>>
>> Excellent Links At
>> http://www.warwickhughes.com/
>>
>> Regards
>> Bonzo
>>
>> "If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
>> CO2
>> contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
>> floor"
>> D'Aleo
>>
>>
>> "...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
>> anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
>> panic us"
>> Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
>> National Academy of Sciences
>>
>>
>> “What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
>> only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it
>> changes” Dr. Richard Lindzen
>>
>>
>> [most of the current alarm over climate change is based on]
>> "inherently untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that
>> cannot accurately forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard
>> Lindzen
> I would trust Wikipedia than that fucked site with no creditability

You haven't answered my questions above.
--


Get The TRUE Facts At
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html

Excellent Links At
http://www.warwickhughes.com/

Regards
Bonzo

"If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo


"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences


“What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes”
Dr. Richard Lindzen


[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen

Ext User(Doug Bashford)
16-01-2008, 12:43 PM
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Vote out Brendan Nelson said about:
Junkscience.com exposed


> Steven Milloy
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
> Jump to: navigation, search
>
> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what
> Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>
> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants, secondhand
> smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease.[1]

laughing! Fox News and the Competitive Enterprise Institute!!???

So he's a career anti-environmentalist. Another Nature hater.

Jeepers, and we are so surprised. Wanna expand that list?
Just read BOZO's sig file.

Ok, I know it's a cheap thrill to laugh at the obvious.
Sigh. I'm such a cheap date.

--Doug


Re ..."Don't call me a NATURE HATER !! "

Nature-hater: One who acts like or votes like
one who hates or fears nature.

>** I do not appreciate being labelled as something I am not.

Of course. Nobody hates Nature. And
there are no bigots. Just ask them.
Nobody thinks of themselves that way.
Of course, we know better.
....Which is EXACTLY why I defined it that way.
Actions speak louder than rhetoric. Agree?

Ext User(B0NZ0)
16-01-2008, 02:13 PM
"Lloyd" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
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> On Jan 14, 11:35 pm, "B0NZ0" <boo...@optusnt.com.au> wrote:
>> "Vote out Brendan Nelson" <v...@out.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:478c33da$0$20842$afc38c87@news.optusne t.com.au...
>>
>> > Steven Milloy
>> > From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>> > (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
>> > Jump to: navigation, search
>> > Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com
>> > and
>> > runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking
>> > what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>> > Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be
>> > false
>> > claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
>> > secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease
>>
>> Huh? False claims?
>> So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did
>> not
>> result in millions of deaths.
>
> Correct; it was not banned.
>
>> Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of
>> secondhand
>> smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
> When something contains dozens of carcinogens, why would you think it
> does not cause cancer?

READ MY LIPS: SECONDHAND SMOKE


>> Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
>> Are you then?
>> Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into
>> one!
>>

--


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http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html

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Regards
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CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo


"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences


"What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes"
Dr. Richard Lindzen


[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen

Ext User(AR-)
19-01-2008, 04:45 AM
The problem with the Junksience website is that it's a-theoretical, and
thus un-scientific. It's objections are raised outside of the relm of
science.

Vote out Brendan Nelson wrote:

> Steven Milloy
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
> Jump to: navigation, search
>
> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what
> Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>
> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants, secondhand
> smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease.[1] Milloy also runs
> CSRWatch.com, which monitors and criticizes the corporate social
> responsibility movement. From the 1990s until the end of 2005, he was an
> adjunct scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute, which hosted the
> JunkScience.com site. He is currently an adjunct scholar at the
> Competitive Enterprise Institute. Milloy is head of the Free Enterprise
> Action Fund, a mutual fund he runs with former tobacco executive Tom
> Borelli. He also operates the Advancement of Sound Science Center, a
> non-profit organization which is critical of environmental science, from
> his home in Potomac, Maryland. Milloy has authored four books.
>
> Milloy's close financial and organizational ties to tobacco and oil
> companies have been the subject of criticism from a number of sources,
> as Milloy has consistently criticized the science linking secondhand
> smoke to health risks and human activity to global warming.[2][3][4][5]
> Contents
> [hide]
>
> * 1 Educational background
> * 2 Career
> * 3 Junk science
> o 3.1 Secondhand smoke
> + 3.1.1 Links to tobacco industry
> o 3.2 The environment
> o 3.3 Climate Change
> o 3.4 U.S. Surgeon General
> o 3.5 DDT
> o 3.6 Asbestos and the World Trade Center
> o 3.7 Food safety
> o 3.8 Evolution
> * 4 Registration as a lobbyist
> * 5 Corporate activism
> * 6 Responses
> * 7 Books
> * 8 Notes
> * 9 See also
> * 10 External links
> o 10.1 Milloy's Websites
> o 10.2 Tobacco Document Archives
> o 10.3 News coverage
>
> [edit] Educational background
>
> Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from Johns Hopkins University, a
> Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from the Johns Hopkins
> University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctor from the
> University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown
> University Law Center.[6]
>
> [edit] Career
>
> According to his website, in 1994, Milloy was project leader of the
> Regulatory Impact Analysis Project, Inc. for the U.S. Department of
> Energy. The Cato Institute, where he was listed as an adjunct scholar
> published his work from 1995 to 2005. Milloy began his criticism of
> "Junk science" as president of the Environmental Policy Analysis Network
> in 1996. In March 1997, Milloy became president of the Advancement of
> Sound Science Coalition (TASSC), which later became the Advancement of
> Sound Science Center.[7] He has been a correspondent for Fox News since
> 2002.
>
> [edit] Junk science
>
> Main article: Junk science
>
> Milloy defines junk science as "faulty scientific data and analysis used
> to advance special and, often, hidden agendas." According to Milloy,
> "the junk science 'mob' includes: The MEDIA, [who] may use junk science
> for sensational headlines and programming…PERSONAL INJURY LAWYERS, [who]
> may use junk science to bamboozle juries into awarding huge verdicts,"
> and others.[8] Milloy claims that there are examples of "junk science"
> which have been identified as wholly without foundation; examples
> include two papers published in Science.[9] An editorial in the American
> Journal of Public Health noted that "... attacking the science
> underlying difficult public policy decisions with the label of 'junk'
> has become a common ploy for those opposed to regulation. One need only
> peruse JunkScience.com to get a sense of the long list of public health
> issues for which research has been so labeled."[10]
>
> [edit] Secondhand smoke
>
> Milloy has criticized research linking secondhand tobacco smoke to
> cancer, claiming that "the vast majority of studies reported no
> statistical association."[11] In 1993, Milloy dismissed an Environmental
> Protection Agency report linking secondhand tobacco smoke to cancer as
> "a joke." Five years later Milloy claimed vindication after a federal
> court criticized the EPA's conclusions. However, the court's finding
> against the EPA was overturned on appeal.
>
> When the British Medical Journal published a meta-analysis confirming a
> link in 1997, Milloy wrote, "Of the 37 studies, only 7—less than 19
> percent—reported statistically significant increases in lung cancer
> incidence... Meta-analysis of the secondhand smoke studies was a joke
> when EPA did it in 1993. And it remains a joke today."[12] When another
> researcher published a study linking secondhand smoke to cancer, Milloy
> wrote that she "... must have pictures of journal editors in
> compromising positions with farm animals. How else can you explain her
> studies seeing the light of day?"[3]
>
> [edit] Links to tobacco industry
>
> While at FoxNews.com, Milloy has continued to criticize claims that
> secondhand tobacco smoke causes cancer.[2] However, with the release of
> confidential tobacco industry documents as part of the Tobacco Master
> Settlement Agreement, the objectivity of Milloy's stance on secondhand
> smoke has been questioned. Based on this documentation, journalists Paul
> D. Thacker and George Monbiot, as well as the Union of Concerned
> Scientists and others, have contended that Milloy is a paid advocate for
> the tobacco industry.[2][4][13]
>
> Milloy's junkscience.com website was reviewed and revised by a public
> relations firm hired by the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.[14] Milloy
> also worked as executive director of The Advancement of Sound Science
> Coalition (TASSC), a "front group" established in 1993 by Philip Morris
> and its public relations firm "to expand and assist Philip Morris in its
> efforts with issues in targeted states."[2][15][16] Philip Morris memos
> describe "utilizing TASSC as a tool in targeted legislative
> battles";[17] a 1994 Philip Morris memo listed TASSC among its "Tools to
> Affect Legislative Decisions".[18] According its 1997 annual report,
> TASSC "sponsored" junkscience.com.[19]
>
> The New Republic reported that Milloy, who is presented by Fox News as
> an independent journalist, was under contract to provide consulting
> services to Philip Morris through the end of 2005.[2] In 2000 & 2001,
> for example, Milloy received a total of $180,000 in payments from Philip
> Morris for consulting services.[20] A spokesperson for Fox News stated,
> "Fox News was unaware of Milloy's connection with Philip Morris. Any
> affiliation he had should have been disclosed."[2] Milloy's association
> with the Cato Institute has since ended; however, as of July 2007, he
> continues to write for FoxNews.com, where he is described as a "junk
> science expert."[21] Monbiot wrote: "Even after Fox News was told about
> the money [Milloy] had been receiving from Philip Morris and Exxon, it
> continued to employ him, without informing its readers about his
> interests."[22] Thacker wrote:
>
> Objective viewers long ago realized that Fox News has a political
> agenda. But, when a pundit promotes this agenda while on the take from
> corporations that benefit from it, then Fox News has gone one disturbing
> step further.[2]
>
> The American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation similarly stated that
> "...Milloy has made it his life’s work to deny scientific studies
> conducted and published by the world’s most reputable and credible
> scientific agencies... and label their objective evidence as 'junk
> science'. Milloy has a lucrative and lengthy relationship with the
> tobacco industry."[23]
>
> [edit] The environment
>
> Milloy has been critical of the Clean Air Act, acknowledging that it has
> improved air quality but arguing that it has forced Americans to
> "surrender many freedoms." Milloy argued that "air pollution in the U.S.
> was more of an aesthetic than a public health problem [in 1970]. That is
> even more the case today."[24]
>
> Milloy maintains the position that "The ozone hole is another area where
> knowledge is insufficient to draw conclusions. There is no "hole," but
> only a thinning of the stratospheric ozone layer over the South Pole.
> The size and depth of the "hole" varies from year to year. No one knows
> why ... it is unclear what effect CFC releases have had on the Earth's
> ozone layer."[25]
>
> [edit] Climate Change
>
> Milloy has consistently argued from the position of a global warming
> skeptic that human activity has little impact on climate change and that
> regulations to limit greenhouse gas emissions are unwarranted and
> harmful to business interests. He has recently offered a prize of $125
> 000 to anyone who can "prove, in a scientific manner, that humans are
> causing harmful global warming," stating that "JunkScience.com, in its
> sole discretion, will determine the winner, if any."[26]
>
> In 2004, when the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment was released by the
> Arctic Council and the International Arctic Science Committee, Milloy
> wrote that the report "pretty much debunks itself."[27] Milloy's
> assertions were disputed by the lead author of the study,[5] as well as
> by climate scientist Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for
> Climate Impact Research, who criticized Milloy for taking "one result
> out of context and present[ing] unwarranted conclusions, knowing that a
> lay audience will not easily recognise their fallacy."[28]
>
> In April 1998 Milloy was part of the Global Climate Science Team (GCST),
> which was founded in part by ExxonMobil to work out a strategy to
> influence the media to "understand (recognize) uncertainties in climate
> science."[4] The Union of Concerned Scientists reported that Milloy
> helped develop the GCST action plan, which involved "invest[ing]
> millions of dollars to manufacture uncertainty on the issue of global
> warming."[4] In 2005, it was reported that non-profit organizations
> operating out of Milloy's home, and in some cases employing no staff,
> have received large payments from ExxonMobil during his tenure with Fox
> News.[5][2][4] A Fox News spokesperson stated that Milloy is "...
> affiliated with several not-for-profit groups that possibly may receive
> funding from Exxon, but he certainly does not receive funding directly
> from Exxon."[5]
>
> Milloy is the Executive Director of DemandDebate.com,[29] an
> organization that seeks to eliminate what it calls "bias" in
> environmental education.[30] A Competitive Enterprise Institute press
> release says he "coordinated" the group's activities at the recent Live
> Earth concert in New York, at which a plane circled the event pulling a
> banner reading, "DON’T BELIEVE AL GORE — DEMAND DEBATE.COM."[31]
>
> [edit] U.S. Surgeon General
>
> In 1998, Milloy, writing on behalf of TASSC, co-wrote an article which
> called for the abolition of the position of United States Surgeon
> General. "We have not had a surgeon general for three years. Has anyone
> noticed? Is anyone's health at risk," asked the authors.[32][33]
>
> [edit] DDT
>
> Milloy has campaigned against the 1972 ban on non-public-health uses of
> DDT in the United States and in favour of wider use of DDT against
> malaria, which he claims could be largely eliminated if DDT were used
> more aggressively. He has been particularly critical of Rachel Carson,
> who, he wrote, "misrepresented the existing science on bird reproduction
> and was wrong about DDT causing cancer."[34]
>
> Milloy's junkscience.com web site features The Malaria Clock: A Green
> Eco-Imperialist Legacy of Death,[35] which he claims counts up the
> approximate number of new malaria cases and deaths in the world, most of
> which he says could have been prevented by the use of DDT. As of June
> 2007, Milloy's clock stands at more than 94 million dead, 90% of whom
> are said to have been expectant mothers and children under five years of
> age. "Infanticide on this scale appears without parallel in human
> history," writes Milloy. "This is not ecology. This is not conservation.
> This is genocide."
>
> Critics have argued that the the clock holds Carson "responsible for
> more deaths than malaria has caused in total,"[36] a charge that a
> footnote at the bottom of the malaria clock webpage seems to
> acknowledges, stating: "Note that some of these cases would have
> occurred irrespective of DDT use. Note also that, while enormously
> influential, the US ban did not immediately terminate global DDT use and
> that developing world malaria mortality increased over time rather than
> instantly leaping to the estimated value of 2,700,000 deaths per year.
> However, certain in the knowledge that even one human sacrificed on the
> altar of green misanthropy is infinitely too many, I let stand the
> linear extrapolation of numbers from an instant start on the 1st of the
> month following this murderous ban."[35]
>
> Responding to an opinion column relying on Milloy's arguments,
> parasitologists Alan Lymbery and Andrew Thompson wrote, in 2004:
>
> The use of DDT...is not banned for public health use in most areas
> of the world where malaria is endemic. Indeed, DDT was recently exempted
> from a proposed worldwide ban on organophosphate [sic] chemicals. One of
> the important factors in declining use of DDT was decreasing
> effectiveness and greater costs because of the development of resistance
> in mosquitoes. Resistance was largely caused by the indiscriminate,
> widespread use of DDT to control agricultural pests in the tropics. To
> blame a reduction in DDT usage for the death of 10-30 million people
> from malaria is not just simple-minded, it is demonstrably wrong.[37]
>
> In 2006, following a press release by the World Health Organization
> recommending more extensive use of indoor residual spraying with DDT and
> other pesticides, Milloy wrote, "It’s a relief that the WHO has finally
> come to its senses."[38]
>
> [edit] Asbestos and the World Trade Center
>
> On September 14, 2001, three days after terrorist attacks destroyed the
> World Trade Center, Milloy wrote that the World Trade Center towers
> might have stood longer, preventing many casualties, had the use of
> asbestos fire-resistant lagging not been discontinued during the Towers'
> construction.[39] Milloy's article reported that, "In 1971, New York
> City banned the use of asbestos in spray fireproofing. At that time,
> asbestos insulating material had only been sprayed up to the 64th floor
> of the World Trade Center towers," and cited an expert who questioned
> the efficacy of the asbestos-free lagging that was used on the steel in
> the upper floors.
>
> Advocates for banning asbestos were highly critical of the article,[39]
> questioning his motives and disputing his conclusions. The International
> Ban Asbestos Secretariat charged him with "insensitivity that is hard to
> fathom."[40]
>
> Laurie Kazan-Allen of the Secretariat wrote:
>
> It takes a certain kind of person to capitalize on a human
> catastrophe such as the attacks on the World Trade Centre. While the
> rest of us remained desperate for news, some were plotting how these
> events could be used to maximum advantage. ... The fact that Milloy
> chose to make this and other such statements as ground zero was still
> smouldering shows an insensitivity that is hard to fathom. What decent
> human being could do anything during those early days but watch and wait
> as the emergency services worked 24/7 to locate survivors?[41]
>
> [edit] Food safety
>
> Responding to criticism of the safety of the food product Quorn by the
> Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), Milloy accused CSPI of
> having an undisclosed relationship with Quorn's main competitor,
> Gardenburger. Writing for FoxNews.com, Milloy said that "CSPI appears to
> have an unsavory relationship with Quorn competitor, Gardenburger" and
> called the CSPI's complaints "unscrupulous shrieking".[42] Gardenburger
> denied Milloy's accusation, stating that Milloy's allegation of an
> "unsavory relationship" was "untrue and groundless".[43]
>
> [edit] Evolution
>
> Milloy's views on evolution are as follows:
>
> Explanations of human evolution are not likely to move beyond the
> stage of hypothesis or conjecture. There is no scientific way — i.e., no
> experiment or other means of reliable study — for explaining how humans
> developed. Without a valid scientific method for proving a hypothesis,
> no indisputable explanation can exist.
>
> The process of evolution can be scientifically demonstrated in some
> lower life forms, but this is a far cry from explaining how humans
> developed.
>
> That said, some sort of evolutionary process seems most likely in my
> opinion. But there will probably always be enough uncertainty in any
> explanation of human evolution to give critics plenty of room for
> doubt.[44]
>
> [edit] Registration as a lobbyist
>
> The United States Senate Lobby Filing Disclosure Program lists Milloy
> was as a registered lobbyist for the EOP Group for the years
> 1998–2000.[45] The guidebook Washington Representatives also listed him
> as a lobbyist for the EOP Group in 1996.[46] The EOP Group's clients
> include the American Crop Protection Association (pesticides), the
> Chlorine Chemistry Council, Edison Electric Institute (fossil and
> nuclear energy), Fort Howard Corp. (a paper manufacturer) and the
> National Mining Association. Milloy himself was personally registered as
> a lobbyist for Monsanto and the International Food Additives
> Council.[47][23]
>
> Milloy denies ever lobbying, and in a 1998 email response to his
> registration as a lobbyist under EOP he wrote:
>
> I do not lobby for ANYONE. Before I became executive director of
> TASSC, I did some technical consulting for a D.C. firm which had the
> policy of registering all its employees and consultants as lobbyists
> (whether or not they lobbied) pursuant to a new law passed in 1995. I am
> aware of the listing and have asked it to be corrected since I no longer
> work for that firm.[48]
>
> [edit] Corporate activism
>
> Milloy and former tobacco executive Tom Borelli run a mutual fund called
> the Free Enterprise Action Fund (FEAF). The fund has criticised
> companies that voluntarily adopt high environmental standards. Through
> the platform of the FEAF, Milloy has criticized a number of other
> corporations for adopting environmental initiatives:
>
> * The FEAF criticized Microsoft for abandoning the use of PVC in its
> packing materials.[49]
> * Milloy accused the Business Roundtable, a pro-business
> organization of CEO's, of being "silent about current threats to
> business", adding, "Last September, we warned 18 member company CEOs
> participating in the BRT’s 'sustainable growth' initiative to stop
> wasting corporate resources."[50]
> * Milloy and Borelli argued that General Electric is harming its
> shareholders by launching a program to curtail greenhouse gas emissions.
> They also accused G.E. of ignoring the input of global warming skeptic
> groups such as the Cato Institute and the oil-industry-funded
> Competitive Enterprise Institute in forming their environmental policy.[51]
>
> FEAF has been criticised by investment analyst Chuck Jaffe as being "an
> advocacy group in search of assets." Jaffe concludes "Strip away the
> rhetoric, and you’re getting a very expensive, underperforming index
> fund, while Milloy and his partner Thomas Borelli get a platform for
> raising their pet issues."[52]
>
> Similarly, Daniel Gross, in a Slate magazine article, wrote that FEAF
> "seems to be a lobbying enterprise masquerading as a mutual fund." Gross
> noted that Milloy and Tom Borelli, the former head of corporate
> scientific affairs for Philip Morris, lack any money management
> experience; he also noted that FEAF had badly underperformed the S&P 500
> during its first 10 months of existence. Gross concluded that "...in the
> short term, it looks like Borelli and Milloy are essentially paying the
> fund for the privilege of using it as a platform to broadcast their
> views on corporate governance, global warming, and a host of other
> issues."[53]
>
> [edit] Responses
>
> Milloy and Borelli have defended Exxon against criticism for funding
> global warming sceptics and others, though without declaring their own
> financial interest. In September 2006, Milloy's Junkscience.com site
> reproduced the following excerpt of a piece by Borelli published in
> Townhall.com, criticising the British Royal Society:
>
> Battle for the boardroom — After over 200 years of independence, the
> British are still trying to direct U.S. public policy. The Royal Society
> — the British equivalent of the National Academy of Sciences — recently
> admonished Exxon Mobil for supporting organizations that question the
> link between man-made greenhouse gas emissions and global warming.
>
> Notwithstanding the offensive nature of a prestigious organization
> attempting to silence scientific debate, the Royal Society’s letter
> sheds light on the larger effort employed by agents of the Left to
> shut-down corporate support for pro-growth political organizations,
> politicians and policies. By cutting-off the financial supply lines for
> free-market thought and policies, these agents — labor unions, NGOs, the
> media — hope to dominate public debate and control public opinion. As
> these tactics continue to meet with success, liberal policies and
> politicians will gain a huge strategic advantage.
>
> For those of us interested in promoting pro-growth ideas, loss of
> corporate support represents a huge threat to sound public policy. There
> is too much money, power and influence wielded by companies and
> free-market advocates can’t afford to give up that high ground to the
> Left.[54]
>
> [edit] Books
>
> Milloy has written four books:
>
> * Junk Science Judo: Self-defense Against Health Scares and Scams,
> Cato Institute, 2001, ISBN 1930865120
> * Silencing Science, Cato Institute, 1999, ISBN 1882577728 (with
> Michael Gough)
> * Science Without Sense: The Risky Business of Public Health
> Research, Cato Institute, 1996, ISBN 1882577345
> * Science-Based Risk Assessment: A Piece of the Superfund Puzzle,
> National Environmental Policy Institute, 1995, ISBN 0964746301
>
> Milloy's junkscience.com site lists positive comments, derived from
> prepublication reviews of his books Silencing Science and Junk Science
> Judo, published on the back cover (blurb) of those books. Those cited on
> junkscience.com are the late Philip Abelson, editor of Science from 1962
> to 1984, and D.A. Henderson, Dean of the Johns Hopkins School of Public
> Health from 1977 to 1990. Abelson's review states "Milloy is one of a
> small group who devotes time, energy and intelligence to the defense of
> the truth of science."
>
> Others with favourable reviews cited in the blurb of Junk Science Judo
> are Ronald Bailey, Frederick Seitz and John Stossel.
>
> [edit] Notes
>
> 1. ^ Milloy's Website, junkscience.com, accessed 20 Sept 2006.
> 2. ^ a b c d e f g h "Smoked Out: Pundit For Hire", published in The
> New Republic, accessed 20 Sept 2006. Also available without subscription
> at FreePress.net.
> 3. ^ a b PRWatch.org article detailing Milloy's ties to the tobacco
> industry, accessed 23 Sept 2006.
> 4. ^ a b c d e Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like
> Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science. Union of Concerned
> Scientists (3 January 2007). Retrieved on 2007-01-11.
> 5. ^ a b c d Some Like It Hot, Mother Jones article on Milloy
> 6. ^ Milloy's history and C.V., from his website junkscience.com,
> accessed 20 Sept 2006.
> 7. ^ [1].
> 8. ^ Junk science?. junkscience.com. Retrieved on 2007-07-20.
> 9. ^ Steven Milloy (December 22, 2005). A Junk Science Christmas
> Carol. FoxNews.com. Retrieved on 2007-07-22.
> 10. ^ Samet JM, Burke TA (2001). "Turning science into junk: the
> tobacco industry and passive smoking". American journal of public health
> 91 (11): 1742-4. PMID 11684591.
> 11. ^ Secondhand Smokescreen, By Steven Milloy, March 9, 2001
> 12. ^ Secondhand Joking, by Steven Milloy
> 13. ^ PRWatch.com article describing the financial links between
> Milloy and the tobacco industry, accessed 20 Sept 2006.
> 14. ^ Activity Report, R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., December 1996,
> describing input from R.J.R. Tobacco's P.R. firm into Milloy's
> junkscience website. From the Legacy Tobacco Documents Library at the
> University of California, San Francisco. Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 15. ^ Philip Morris 1994 Budget Draft, available at the Philip Morris
> Document Archive. Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 16. ^ Ong EK, Glantz SA (2000). "Tobacco industry efforts subverting
> International Agency for Research on Cancer's second-hand smoke study".
> Lancet 355 (9211): 1253-9. PMID 10770318.
> 17. ^ Letter from Margery Kraus, president of TASSC, to Vic Han,
> Director of Communications for Philip Morris, dated 23 September 1993.
> Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 18. ^ Philip Morris Corporate Affairs Budget Presentation, 1994, from
> the Philip Morris Document Archive. Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 19. ^ Annual Report - 1997, Steven Milloy, January 7th, 1998. Document
> accessed at Legacy Tobacco Documents Library on July 7, 2007.
> 20. ^ Philip Morris budget for "Strategy and Social Responsibility",
> detailing $180,000 in payments to Steven Milloy (pp. 13 & 66). Accessed
> 5 October 2006.
> 21. ^ Milloy column on global warming, published 12 October 2006, in
> which Milloy is described as a "junk science expert." Accessed 16
> October 2006.
> 22. ^ Climate Change: The Denial Industry, by George Monbiot.
> Published as an excerpt in The Guardian on September 19, 2006; accessed
> July 23, 2007.
> 23. ^ a b [2] American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation article on Steven
> Milloy. Accessed July 26, 2007.
> 24. ^ Cato Institute Q&A with Steve Milloy. Accessed 10 October 2006.
> 25. ^ [3]
> 26. ^ Ultimate Global Warming Challenge, a Steven Milloy website.
> Accessed August 24, 2007.
> 27. ^ Polar Bear Scare on Thin Ice, by Steven Milloy, FoxNews.com, 12
> Nov., 2004
> 28. ^ [4]
> 29. ^ DemandDebate.com Press Release, PRNewsWire.com, Oct 1, 2007.
> 30. ^ Interview with Borelli on The Young Turks, accessed on
> www.lastvideo.net, July 12, 2007.
> 31. ^ Bureaucrash and the "Demand Debate" Campaign Crash Live Earth
> New York, Competitive Enterprise Institute Press Release, July9th, 2007.
> 32. ^ An Empty Uniform, by Michael Gough and Steven Milloy, The Wall
> Street Journal, 10 February, 1998
> 33. ^ NCPA Idea House: Who Needs A Surgeon General?
> 34. ^ At Risk from the Pesticide Myth, by Steven Milloy, July 28, 2000
> 35. ^ a b The Malaria Clock: A Green Eco-Imperialist Legacy of Death
> 36. ^ Rachel Carson, Mass Murderer? The creation of an
> anti-environmental myth, Aaron Swartz, Extra!, September/October 2007.
> 37. ^ The UnAustralian. Retrieved on 2007-06-29.
> 38. ^ Day of Reckoning for DDT Foes?, by Steven Milloy, FoxNews.com,
> Thursday, September 21, 2006
> 39. ^ a b Article: Asbestos Could Have Saved WTC Lives, FoxNews.com.
> Published September 14, 2001.
> 40. ^ Criticism of Milloy's comments by the International Ban Asbestos
> Secretariat. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 41. ^ Criticism of Milloy for blaming asbestos removal for the WTC
> collapses, from the International Ban Asbestos Secretariat. Accessed 16
> October 2006.
> 42. ^ Steven Milloy (2002-08-30). Quorn & CSPI: The Other Fake Meat.
> Fox News. Retrieved on 2006-05-20.
> 43. ^ Scott C. Wallace, CEO of Gardenburger. Gardenburger rebuttal to:
> "The Other Fake Meat" by Steven Milloy. Retrieved on 2006-05-20.
> 44. ^ Steve Milloy. Q and A With Steve Milloy. Retrieved on 2007-01-11.
> 45. ^ United States Senate Lobby Filing Disclosure Program, listing
> Milloy as a lobbyist for the EOP Group from 1998-2000, accessed 28 June
> 2006.
> 46. ^ Washington Lobbyists, 1996, Columbia Books, Washington DC.
> 47. ^ Saving the Planet With Pestilent Statistics, by Karen Charman.
> Published in the PR Watch newsletter, Vol. 6 No. 4 (1999). Accessed June
> 29, 2007.
> 48. ^ "Junk Science and the Art of Spin-Doctoring" Stewart Fist Old
> Dominion University College of Sciences.
> 49. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release, criticizing Microsoft
> for abandoning the use of PVC in its packing materials. Accessed 11
> October 2006.
> 50. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release chastising the
> Business Roundtable for insufficient vigilance in the defense of
> capitalism. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 51. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release criticizing General
> Electric's environmental policy. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 52. ^ "Strange Bedfellows: Politics and Investment Fund", from the
> Boston Herald. Published 24 Jan 2006. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 53. ^ "Thank You for Investing: A very curious right-wing mutual
> fund." Article by Daniel Gross from Slate magazine, published 4 May
> 2006. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 54. ^ "Battle For The Boardroom", by Tom Borelli, posted on
> Junkscience.com. Accessed 17 October 2006.
>
> [edit] See also
>
> * Global Climate Coalition
> * American Petroleum Institute
>
> [edit] External links
>
> [edit] Milloy's Websites
>
> * Junkscience.com
> * CSRWatch.com
> * The Ultimate Global Warming Challenge
>
> [edit] Tobacco Document Archives
>
> * The Legacy Tobacco Documents Library at the University of
> California, San Francisco.
> * The Philip Morris USA Document Site
>
> [edit] News coverage
>
> * "The Trashman Speweth" and "How Big Tobacco Helped Create "'the
> Junkman'", at PR Watch
> * "The Junkman Climbs to the Top", from Environmental Science &
> Technology, May 11, 2005
> * "Smoked Out" at The New Republic (also available at
> Freepress.net), January 26, 2006
> * "Strange bedfellows: Politics and investment fund" in the Boston
> Herald, January 24, 2006
> * "Climate Change, The Denial Industry", The Guardian, September 19,
> 2006
> * "Some Like It Hot", article on Milloy's connection to ExxonMobil
> from Mother Jones, May/June 2005
> * "If You Seek the Truth, Don't Trash the Science", Washington Post,
> by John Schwartz, February 21, 1999
> * Exxon Secrets: Steven Milloy

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>> Steven Milloy
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>> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
>> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking
>> what Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
>> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants,
>> secondhand smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease
>
>
>
> Huh? False claims?
> So you're saying for example, that DDT was not banned, and thus did not
> result in millions of deaths.
> Are you also claiming that, for another example, the myth of secondhand
> smoke causing lung cancer is really true?
> Surely you're not falling for the great AGW hoax are you?
> Are you then?
> Milloy makes far, far more sense than all you AGW crazies rolled into one!
>
>
>
> Get The TRUE Facts At
> http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html
>
> Excellent Links At
> http://www.warwickhughes.com/
>
> Regards
> Bonzo
>
> "If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic CO2
> contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first floor"
> D'Aleo
>
>
> "...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
> anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
> panic us"
> Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
> National Academy of Sciences
>
>
> “What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
> only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes”
> Dr. Richard Lindzen
>
>
> [most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
> untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
> forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen
Steven Milloy is a criminal who wants kill little kids

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> Steven Milloy
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
> (Redirected from Junkscience.com)
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>
> Steven J. Milloy is the "junk science" commentator for FoxNews.com and
> runs the Web site junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what
> Milloy labels "faulty scientific data and analysis."
>
> Among the topics Milloy has addressed are what he believes to be false
> claims regarding DDT, global warming, Alar, breast implants, secondhand
> smoke, ozone depletion, and mad cow disease.[1] Milloy also runs
> CSRWatch.com, which monitors and criticizes the corporate social
> responsibility movement. From the 1990s until the end of 2005, he was an
> adjunct scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute, which hosted the
> JunkScience.com site. He is currently an adjunct scholar at the
> Competitive Enterprise Institute. Milloy is head of the Free Enterprise
> Action Fund, a mutual fund he runs with former tobacco executive Tom
> Borelli. He also operates the Advancement of Sound Science Center, a
> non-profit organization which is critical of environmental science, from
> his home in Potomac, Maryland. Milloy has authored four books.
>
> Milloy's close financial and organizational ties to tobacco and oil
> companies have been the subject of criticism from a number of sources,
> as Milloy has consistently criticized the science linking secondhand
> smoke to health risks and human activity to global warming.[2][3][4][5]
> Contents
> [hide]
>
> * 1 Educational background
> * 2 Career
> * 3 Junk science
> o 3.1 Secondhand smoke
> + 3.1.1 Links to tobacco industry
> o 3.2 The environment
> o 3.3 Climate Change
> o 3.4 U.S. Surgeon General
> o 3.5 DDT
> o 3.6 Asbestos and the World Trade Center
> o 3.7 Food safety
> o 3.8 Evolution
> * 4 Registration as a lobbyist
> * 5 Corporate activism
> * 6 Responses
> * 7 Books
> * 8 Notes
> * 9 See also
> * 10 External links
> o 10.1 Milloy's Websites
> o 10.2 Tobacco Document Archives
> o 10.3 News coverage
>
> [edit] Educational background
>
> Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from Johns Hopkins University, a
> Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from the Johns Hopkins
> University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctor from the
> University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown
> University Law Center.[6]
>
> [edit] Career
>
> According to his website, in 1994, Milloy was project leader of the
> Regulatory Impact Analysis Project, Inc. for the U.S. Department of
> Energy. The Cato Institute, where he was listed as an adjunct scholar
> published his work from 1995 to 2005. Milloy began his criticism of
> "Junk science" as president of the Environmental Policy Analysis Network
> in 1996. In March 1997, Milloy became president of the Advancement of
> Sound Science Coalition (TASSC), which later became the Advancement of
> Sound Science Center.[7] He has been a correspondent for Fox News since
> 2002.
>
> [edit] Junk science
>
> Main article: Junk science
>
> Milloy defines junk science as "faulty scientific data and analysis used
> to advance special and, often, hidden agendas." According to Milloy,
> "the junk science 'mob' includes: The MEDIA, [who] may use junk science
> for sensational headlines and programming…PERSONAL INJURY LAWYERS, [who]
> may use junk science to bamboozle juries into awarding huge verdicts,"
> and others.[8] Milloy claims that there are examples of "junk science"
> which have been identified as wholly without foundation; examples
> include two papers published in Science.[9] An editorial in the American
> Journal of Public Health noted that "... attacking the science
> underlying difficult public policy decisions with the label of 'junk'
> has become a common ploy for those opposed to regulation. One need only
> peruse JunkScience.com to get a sense of the long list of public health
> issues for which research has been so labeled."[10]
>
> [edit] Secondhand smoke
>
> Milloy has criticized research linking secondhand tobacco smoke to
> cancer, claiming that "the vast majority of studies reported no
> statistical association."[11] In 1993, Milloy dismissed an Environmental
> Protection Agency report linking secondhand tobacco smoke to cancer as
> "a joke." Five years later Milloy claimed vindication after a federal
> court criticized the EPA's conclusions. However, the court's finding
> against the EPA was overturned on appeal.
>
> When the British Medical Journal published a meta-analysis confirming a
> link in 1997, Milloy wrote, "Of the 37 studies, only 7—less than 19
> percent—reported statistically significant increases in lung cancer
> incidence... Meta-analysis of the secondhand smoke studies was a joke
> when EPA did it in 1993. And it remains a joke today."[12] When another
> researcher published a study linking secondhand smoke to cancer, Milloy
> wrote that she "... must have pictures of journal editors in
> compromising positions with farm animals. How else can you explain her
> studies seeing the light of day?"[3]
>
> [edit] Links to tobacco industry
>
> While at FoxNews.com, Milloy has continued to criticize claims that
> secondhand tobacco smoke causes cancer.[2] However, with the release of
> confidential tobacco industry documents as part of the Tobacco Master
> Settlement Agreement, the objectivity of Milloy's stance on secondhand
> smoke has been questioned. Based on this documentation, journalists Paul
> D. Thacker and George Monbiot, as well as the Union of Concerned
> Scientists and others, have contended that Milloy is a paid advocate for
> the tobacco industry.[2][4][13]
>
> Milloy's junkscience.com website was reviewed and revised by a public
> relations firm hired by the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company.[14] Milloy
> also worked as executive director of The Advancement of Sound Science
> Coalition (TASSC), a "front group" established in 1993 by Philip Morris
> and its public relations firm "to expand and assist Philip Morris in its
> efforts with issues in targeted states."[2][15][16] Philip Morris memos
> describe "utilizing TASSC as a tool in targeted legislative
> battles";[17] a 1994 Philip Morris memo listed TASSC among its "Tools to
> Affect Legislative Decisions".[18] According its 1997 annual report,
> TASSC "sponsored" junkscience.com.[19]
>
> The New Republic reported that Milloy, who is presented by Fox News as
> an independent journalist, was under contract to provide consulting
> services to Philip Morris through the end of 2005.[2] In 2000 & 2001,
> for example, Milloy received a total of $180,000 in payments from Philip
> Morris for consulting services.[20] A spokesperson for Fox News stated,
> "Fox News was unaware of Milloy's connection with Philip Morris. Any
> affiliation he had should have been disclosed."[2] Milloy's association
> with the Cato Institute has since ended; however, as of July 2007, he
> continues to write for FoxNews.com, where he is described as a "junk
> science expert."[21] Monbiot wrote: "Even after Fox News was told about
> the money [Milloy] had been receiving from Philip Morris and Exxon, it
> continued to employ him, without informing its readers about his
> interests."[22] Thacker wrote:
>
> Objective viewers long ago realized that Fox News has a political
> agenda. But, when a pundit promotes this agenda while on the take from
> corporations that benefit from it, then Fox News has gone one disturbing
> step further.[2]
>
> The American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation similarly stated that
> "...Milloy has made it his life’s work to deny scientific studies
> conducted and published by the world’s most reputable and credible
> scientific agencies... and label their objective evidence as 'junk
> science'. Milloy has a lucrative and lengthy relationship with the
> tobacco industry."[23]
>
> [edit] The environment
>
> Milloy has been critical of the Clean Air Act, acknowledging that it has
> improved air quality but arguing that it has forced Americans to
> "surrender many freedoms." Milloy argued that "air pollution in the U.S.
> was more of an aesthetic than a public health problem [in 1970]. That is
> even more the case today."[24]
>
> Milloy maintains the position that "The ozone hole is another area where
> knowledge is insufficient to draw conclusions. There is no "hole," but
> only a thinning of the stratospheric ozone layer over the South Pole.
> The size and depth of the "hole" varies from year to year. No one knows
> why ... it is unclear what effect CFC releases have had on the Earth's
> ozone layer."[25]
>
> [edit] Climate Change
>
> Milloy has consistently argued from the position of a global warming
> skeptic that human activity has little impact on climate change and that
> regulations to limit greenhouse gas emissions are unwarranted and
> harmful to business interests. He has recently offered a prize of $125
> 000 to anyone who can "prove, in a scientific manner, that humans are
> causing harmful global warming," stating that "JunkScience.com, in its
> sole discretion, will determine the winner, if any."[26]
>
> In 2004, when the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment was released by the
> Arctic Council and the International Arctic Science Committee, Milloy
> wrote that the report "pretty much debunks itself."[27] Milloy's
> assertions were disputed by the lead author of the study,[5] as well as
> by climate scientist Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for
> Climate Impact Research, who criticized Milloy for taking "one result
> out of context and present[ing] unwarranted conclusions, knowing that a
> lay audience will not easily recognise their fallacy."[28]
>
> In April 1998 Milloy was part of the Global Climate Science Team (GCST),
> which was founded in part by ExxonMobil to work out a strategy to
> influence the media to "understand (recognize) uncertainties in climate
> science."[4] The Union of Concerned Scientists reported that Milloy
> helped develop the GCST action plan, which involved "invest[ing]
> millions of dollars to manufacture uncertainty on the issue of global
> warming."[4] In 2005, it was reported that non-profit organizations
> operating out of Milloy's home, and in some cases employing no staff,
> have received large payments from ExxonMobil during his tenure with Fox
> News.[5][2][4] A Fox News spokesperson stated that Milloy is "...
> affiliated with several not-for-profit groups that possibly may receive
> funding from Exxon, but he certainly does not receive funding directly
> from Exxon."[5]
>
> Milloy is the Executive Director of DemandDebate.com,[29] an
> organization that seeks to eliminate what it calls "bias" in
> environmental education.[30] A Competitive Enterprise Institute press
> release says he "coordinated" the group's activities at the recent Live
> Earth concert in New York, at which a plane circled the event pulling a
> banner reading, "DON’T BELIEVE AL GORE — DEMAND DEBATE.COM."[31]
>
> [edit] U.S. Surgeon General
>
> In 1998, Milloy, writing on behalf of TASSC, co-wrote an article which
> called for the abolition of the position of United States Surgeon
> General. "We have not had a surgeon general for three years. Has anyone
> noticed? Is anyone's health at risk," asked the authors.[32][33]
>
> [edit] DDT
>
> Milloy has campaigned against the 1972 ban on non-public-health uses of
> DDT in the United States and in favour of wider use of DDT against
> malaria, which he claims could be largely eliminated if DDT were used
> more aggressively. He has been particularly critical of Rachel Carson,
> who, he wrote, "misrepresented the existing science on bird reproduction
> and was wrong about DDT causing cancer."[34]
>
> Milloy's junkscience.com web site features The Malaria Clock: A Green
> Eco-Imperialist Legacy of Death,[35] which he claims counts up the
> approximate number of new malaria cases and deaths in the world, most of
> which he says could have been prevented by the use of DDT. As of June
> 2007, Milloy's clock stands at more than 94 million dead, 90% of whom
> are said to have been expectant mothers and children under five years of
> age. "Infanticide on this scale appears without parallel in human
> history," writes Milloy. "This is not ecology. This is not conservation.
> This is genocide."
>
> Critics have argued that the the clock holds Carson "responsible for
> more deaths than malaria has caused in total,"[36] a charge that a
> footnote at the bottom of the malaria clock webpage seems to
> acknowledges, stating: "Note that some of these cases would have
> occurred irrespective of DDT use. Note also that, while enormously
> influential, the US ban did not immediately terminate global DDT use and
> that developing world malaria mortality increased over time rather than
> instantly leaping to the estimated value of 2,700,000 deaths per year.
> However, certain in the knowledge that even one human sacrificed on the
> altar of green misanthropy is infinitely too many, I let stand the
> linear extrapolation of numbers from an instant start on the 1st of the
> month following this murderous ban."[35]
>
> Responding to an opinion column relying on Milloy's arguments,
> parasitologists Alan Lymbery and Andrew Thompson wrote, in 2004:
>
> The use of DDT...is not banned for public health use in most areas
> of the world where malaria is endemic. Indeed, DDT was recently exempted
> from a proposed worldwide ban on organophosphate [sic] chemicals. One of
> the important factors in declining use of DDT was decreasing
> effectiveness and greater costs because of the development of resistance
> in mosquitoes. Resistance was largely caused by the indiscriminate,
> widespread use of DDT to control agricultural pests in the tropics. To
> blame a reduction in DDT usage for the death of 10-30 million people
> from malaria is not just simple-minded, it is demonstrably wrong.[37]
>
> In 2006, following a press release by the World Health Organization
> recommending more extensive use of indoor residual spraying with DDT and
> other pesticides, Milloy wrote, "It’s a relief that the WHO has finally
> come to its senses."[38]
>
> [edit] Asbestos and the World Trade Center
>
> On September 14, 2001, three days after terrorist attacks destroyed the
> World Trade Center, Milloy wrote that the World Trade Center towers
> might have stood longer, preventing many casualties, had the use of
> asbestos fire-resistant lagging not been discontinued during the Towers'
> construction.[39] Milloy's article reported that, "In 1971, New York
> City banned the use of asbestos in spray fireproofing. At that time,
> asbestos insulating material had only been sprayed up to the 64th floor
> of the World Trade Center towers," and cited an expert who questioned
> the efficacy of the asbestos-free lagging that was used on the steel in
> the upper floors.
>
> Advocates for banning asbestos were highly critical of the article,[39]
> questioning his motives and disputing his conclusions. The International
> Ban Asbestos Secretariat charged him with "insensitivity that is hard to
> fathom."[40]
>
> Laurie Kazan-Allen of the Secretariat wrote:
>
> It takes a certain kind of person to capitalize on a human
> catastrophe such as the attacks on the World Trade Centre. While the
> rest of us remained desperate for news, some were plotting how these
> events could be used to maximum advantage. ... The fact that Milloy
> chose to make this and other such statements as ground zero was still
> smouldering shows an insensitivity that is hard to fathom. What decent
> human being could do anything during those early days but watch and wait
> as the emergency services worked 24/7 to locate survivors?[41]
>
> [edit] Food safety
>
> Responding to criticism of the safety of the food product Quorn by the
> Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), Milloy accused CSPI of
> having an undisclosed relationship with Quorn's main competitor,
> Gardenburger. Writing for FoxNews.com, Milloy said that "CSPI appears to
> have an unsavory relationship with Quorn competitor, Gardenburger" and
> called the CSPI's complaints "unscrupulous shrieking".[42] Gardenburger
> denied Milloy's accusation, stating that Milloy's allegation of an
> "unsavory relationship" was "untrue and groundless".[43]
>
> [edit] Evolution
>
> Milloy's views on evolution are as follows:
>
> Explanations of human evolution are not likely to move beyond the
> stage of hypothesis or conjecture. There is no scientific way — i.e., no
> experiment or other means of reliable study — for explaining how humans
> developed. Without a valid scientific method for proving a hypothesis,
> no indisputable explanation can exist.
>
> The process of evolution can be scientifically demonstrated in some
> lower life forms, but this is a far cry from explaining how humans
> developed.
>
> That said, some sort of evolutionary process seems most likely in my
> opinion. But there will probably always be enough uncertainty in any
> explanation of human evolution to give critics plenty of room for
> doubt.[44]
>
> [edit] Registration as a lobbyist
>
> The United States Senate Lobby Filing Disclosure Program lists Milloy
> was as a registered lobbyist for the EOP Group for the years
> 1998–2000.[45] The guidebook Washington Representatives also listed him
> as a lobbyist for the EOP Group in 1996.[46] The EOP Group's clients
> include the American Crop Protection Association (pesticides), the
> Chlorine Chemistry Council, Edison Electric Institute (fossil and
> nuclear energy), Fort Howard Corp. (a paper manufacturer) and the
> National Mining Association. Milloy himself was personally registered as
> a lobbyist for Monsanto and the International Food Additives
> Council.[47][23]
>
> Milloy denies ever lobbying, and in a 1998 email response to his
> registration as a lobbyist under EOP he wrote:
>
> I do not lobby for ANYONE. Before I became executive director of
> TASSC, I did some technical consulting for a D.C. firm which had the
> policy of registering all its employees and consultants as lobbyists
> (whether or not they lobbied) pursuant to a new law passed in 1995. I am
> aware of the listing and have asked it to be corrected since I no longer
> work for that firm.[48]
>
> [edit] Corporate activism
>
> Milloy and former tobacco executive Tom Borelli run a mutual fund called
> the Free Enterprise Action Fund (FEAF). The fund has criticised
> companies that voluntarily adopt high environmental standards. Through
> the platform of the FEAF, Milloy has criticized a number of other
> corporations for adopting environmental initiatives:
>
> * The FEAF criticized Microsoft for abandoning the use of PVC in its
> packing materials.[49]
> * Milloy accused the Business Roundtable, a pro-business
> organization of CEO's, of being "silent about current threats to
> business", adding, "Last September, we warned 18 member company CEOs
> participating in the BRT’s 'sustainable growth' initiative to stop
> wasting corporate resources."[50]
> * Milloy and Borelli argued that General Electric is harming its
> shareholders by launching a program to curtail greenhouse gas emissions.
> They also accused G.E. of ignoring the input of global warming skeptic
> groups such as the Cato Institute and the oil-industry-funded
> Competitive Enterprise Institute in forming their environmental policy.[51]
>
> FEAF has been criticised by investment analyst Chuck Jaffe as being "an
> advocacy group in search of assets." Jaffe concludes "Strip away the
> rhetoric, and you’re getting a very expensive, underperforming index
> fund, while Milloy and his partner Thomas Borelli get a platform for
> raising their pet issues."[52]
>
> Similarly, Daniel Gross, in a Slate magazine article, wrote that FEAF
> "seems to be a lobbying enterprise masquerading as a mutual fund." Gross
> noted that Milloy and Tom Borelli, the former head of corporate
> scientific affairs for Philip Morris, lack any money management
> experience; he also noted that FEAF had badly underperformed the S&P 500
> during its first 10 months of existence. Gross concluded that "...in the
> short term, it looks like Borelli and Milloy are essentially paying the
> fund for the privilege of using it as a platform to broadcast their
> views on corporate governance, global warming, and a host of other
> issues."[53]
>
> [edit] Responses
>
> Milloy and Borelli have defended Exxon against criticism for funding
> global warming sceptics and others, though without declaring their own
> financial interest. In September 2006, Milloy's Junkscience.com site
> reproduced the following excerpt of a piece by Borelli published in
> Townhall.com, criticising the British Royal Society:
>
> Battle for the boardroom — After over 200 years of independence, the
> British are still trying to direct U.S. public policy. The Royal Society
> — the British equivalent of the National Academy of Sciences — recently
> admonished Exxon Mobil for supporting organizations that question the
> link between man-made greenhouse gas emissions and global warming.
>
> Notwithstanding the offensive nature of a prestigious organization
> attempting to silence scientific debate, the Royal Society’s letter
> sheds light on the larger effort employed by agents of the Left to
> shut-down corporate support for pro-growth political organizations,
> politicians and policies. By cutting-off the financial supply lines for
> free-market thought and policies, these agents — labor unions, NGOs, the
> media — hope to dominate public debate and control public opinion. As
> these tactics continue to meet with success, liberal policies and
> politicians will gain a huge strategic advantage.
>
> For those of us interested in promoting pro-growth ideas, loss of
> corporate support represents a huge threat to sound public policy. There
> is too much money, power and influence wielded by companies and
> free-market advocates can’t afford to give up that high ground to the
> Left.[54]
>
> [edit] Books
>
> Milloy has written four books:
>
> * Junk Science Judo: Self-defense Against Health Scares and Scams,
> Cato Institute, 2001, ISBN 1930865120
> * Silencing Science, Cato Institute, 1999, ISBN 1882577728 (with
> Michael Gough)
> * Science Without Sense: The Risky Business of Public Health
> Research, Cato Institute, 1996, ISBN 1882577345
> * Science-Based Risk Assessment: A Piece of the Superfund Puzzle,
> National Environmental Policy Institute, 1995, ISBN 0964746301
>
> Milloy's junkscience.com site lists positive comments, derived from
> prepublication reviews of his books Silencing Science and Junk Science
> Judo, published on the back cover (blurb) of those books. Those cited on
> junkscience.com are the late Philip Abelson, editor of Science from 1962
> to 1984, and D.A. Henderson, Dean of the Johns Hopkins School of Public
> Health from 1977 to 1990. Abelson's review states "Milloy is one of a
> small group who devotes time, energy and intelligence to the defense of
> the truth of science."
>
> Others with favourable reviews cited in the blurb of Junk Science Judo
> are Ronald Bailey, Frederick Seitz and John Stossel.
>
> [edit] Notes
>
> 1. ^ Milloy's Website, junkscience.com, accessed 20 Sept 2006.
> 2. ^ a b c d e f g h "Smoked Out: Pundit For Hire", published in The
> New Republic, accessed 20 Sept 2006. Also available without subscription
> at FreePress.net.
> 3. ^ a b PRWatch.org article detailing Milloy's ties to the tobacco
> industry, accessed 23 Sept 2006.
> 4. ^ a b c d e Scientists' Report Documents ExxonMobil’s Tobacco-like
> Disinformation Campaign on Global Warming Science. Union of Concerned
> Scientists (3 January 2007). Retrieved on 2007-01-11.
> 5. ^ a b c d Some Like It Hot, Mother Jones article on Milloy
> 6. ^ Milloy's history and C.V., from his website junkscience.com,
> accessed 20 Sept 2006.
> 7. ^ [1].
> 8. ^ Junk science?. junkscience.com. Retrieved on 2007-07-20.
> 9. ^ Steven Milloy (December 22, 2005). A Junk Science Christmas
> Carol. FoxNews.com. Retrieved on 2007-07-22.
> 10. ^ Samet JM, Burke TA (2001). "Turning science into junk: the
> tobacco industry and passive smoking". American journal of public health
> 91 (11): 1742-4. PMID 11684591.
> 11. ^ Secondhand Smokescreen, By Steven Milloy, March 9, 2001
> 12. ^ Secondhand Joking, by Steven Milloy
> 13. ^ PRWatch.com article describing the financial links between
> Milloy and the tobacco industry, accessed 20 Sept 2006.
> 14. ^ Activity Report, R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., December 1996,
> describing input from R.J.R. Tobacco's P.R. firm into Milloy's
> junkscience website. From the Legacy Tobacco Documents Library at the
> University of California, San Francisco. Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 15. ^ Philip Morris 1994 Budget Draft, available at the Philip Morris
> Document Archive. Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 16. ^ Ong EK, Glantz SA (2000). "Tobacco industry efforts subverting
> International Agency for Research on Cancer's second-hand smoke study".
> Lancet 355 (9211): 1253-9. PMID 10770318.
> 17. ^ Letter from Margery Kraus, president of TASSC, to Vic Han,
> Director of Communications for Philip Morris, dated 23 September 1993.
> Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 18. ^ Philip Morris Corporate Affairs Budget Presentation, 1994, from
> the Philip Morris Document Archive. Accessed 5 October 2006.
> 19. ^ Annual Report - 1997, Steven Milloy, January 7th, 1998. Document
> accessed at Legacy Tobacco Documents Library on July 7, 2007.
> 20. ^ Philip Morris budget for "Strategy and Social Responsibility",
> detailing $180,000 in payments to Steven Milloy (pp. 13 & 66). Accessed
> 5 October 2006.
> 21. ^ Milloy column on global warming, published 12 October 2006, in
> which Milloy is described as a "junk science expert." Accessed 16
> October 2006.
> 22. ^ Climate Change: The Denial Industry, by George Monbiot.
> Published as an excerpt in The Guardian on September 19, 2006; accessed
> July 23, 2007.
> 23. ^ a b [2] American Nonsmokers' Rights Foundation article on Steven
> Milloy. Accessed July 26, 2007.
> 24. ^ Cato Institute Q&A with Steve Milloy. Accessed 10 October 2006.
> 25. ^ [3]
> 26. ^ Ultimate Global Warming Challenge, a Steven Milloy website.
> Accessed August 24, 2007.
> 27. ^ Polar Bear Scare on Thin Ice, by Steven Milloy, FoxNews.com, 12
> Nov., 2004
> 28. ^ [4]
> 29. ^ DemandDebate.com Press Release, PRNewsWire.com, Oct 1, 2007.
> 30. ^ Interview with Borelli on The Young Turks, accessed on
> www.lastvideo.net, July 12, 2007.
> 31. ^ Bureaucrash and the "Demand Debate" Campaign Crash Live Earth
> New York, Competitive Enterprise Institute Press Release, July9th, 2007.
> 32. ^ An Empty Uniform, by Michael Gough and Steven Milloy, The Wall
> Street Journal, 10 February, 1998
> 33. ^ NCPA Idea House: Who Needs A Surgeon General?
> 34. ^ At Risk from the Pesticide Myth, by Steven Milloy, July 28, 2000
> 35. ^ a b The Malaria Clock: A Green Eco-Imperialist Legacy of Death
> 36. ^ Rachel Carson, Mass Murderer? The creation of an
> anti-environmental myth, Aaron Swartz, Extra!, September/October 2007.
> 37. ^ The UnAustralian. Retrieved on 2007-06-29.
> 38. ^ Day of Reckoning for DDT Foes?, by Steven Milloy, FoxNews.com,
> Thursday, September 21, 2006
> 39. ^ a b Article: Asbestos Could Have Saved WTC Lives, FoxNews.com.
> Published September 14, 2001.
> 40. ^ Criticism of Milloy's comments by the International Ban Asbestos
> Secretariat. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 41. ^ Criticism of Milloy for blaming asbestos removal for the WTC
> collapses, from the International Ban Asbestos Secretariat. Accessed 16
> October 2006.
> 42. ^ Steven Milloy (2002-08-30). Quorn & CSPI: The Other Fake Meat.
> Fox News. Retrieved on 2006-05-20.
> 43. ^ Scott C. Wallace, CEO of Gardenburger. Gardenburger rebuttal to:
> "The Other Fake Meat" by Steven Milloy. Retrieved on 2006-05-20.
> 44. ^ Steve Milloy. Q and A With Steve Milloy. Retrieved on 2007-01-11.
> 45. ^ United States Senate Lobby Filing Disclosure Program, listing
> Milloy as a lobbyist for the EOP Group from 1998-2000, accessed 28 June
> 2006.
> 46. ^ Washington Lobbyists, 1996, Columbia Books, Washington DC.
> 47. ^ Saving the Planet With Pestilent Statistics, by Karen Charman.
> Published in the PR Watch newsletter, Vol. 6 No. 4 (1999). Accessed June
> 29, 2007.
> 48. ^ "Junk Science and the Art of Spin-Doctoring" Stewart Fist Old
> Dominion University College of Sciences.
> 49. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release, criticizing Microsoft
> for abandoning the use of PVC in its packing materials. Accessed 11
> October 2006.
> 50. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release chastising the
> Business Roundtable for insufficient vigilance in the defense of
> capitalism. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 51. ^ Free Enterprise Action Fund press release criticizing General
> Electric's environmental policy. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 52. ^ "Strange Bedfellows: Politics and Investment Fund", from the
> Boston Herald. Published 24 Jan 2006. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 53. ^ "Thank You for Investing: A very curious right-wing mutual
> fund." Article by Daniel Gross from Slate magazine, published 4 May
> 2006. Accessed 11 October 2006.
> 54. ^ "Battle For The Boardroom", by Tom Borelli, posted on
> Junkscience.com. Accessed 17 October 2006.
>
> [edit] See also
>
> * Global Climate Coalition
> * American Petroleum Institute
>
> [edit] External links
>
> [edit] Milloy's Websites
>
> * Junkscience.com
> * CSRWatch.com
> * The Ultimate Global Warming Challenge
>
> [edit] Tobacco Document Archives
>
> * The Legacy Tobacco Documents Library at the University of
> California, San Francisco.
> * The Philip Morris USA Document Site
>
> [edit] News coverage
>
> * "The Trashman Speweth" and "How Big Tobacco Helped Create "'the
> Junkman'", at PR Watch
> * "The Junkman Climbs to the Top", from Environmental Science &
> Technology, May 11, 2005
> * "Smoked Out" at The New Republic (also available at
> Freepress.net), January 26, 2006
> * "Strange bedfellows: Politics and investment fund" in the Boston
> Herald, January 24, 2006
> * "Climate Change, The Denial Industry", The Guardian, September 19,
> 2006
> * "Some Like It Hot", article on Milloy's connection to ExxonMobil
> from Mother Jones, May/June 2005
> * "If You Seek the Truth, Don't Trash the Science", Washington Post,
> by John Schwartz, February 21, 1999
> * Exxon Secrets: Steven Milloy
All of Milloy's claims are crap

Ext User(Doug Bashford)
24-04-2008, 01:32 AM
in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,
In <478c45b8$3@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:34:14 +1100, B0NZ0 said about:
Re: Junkscience.com Verified As Factual


Re ..."Don't call me a NATURE HATER !! "

Nature-hater: One who acts like or votes like
one who hates or fears nature.

>** I do not appreciate being labelled as something I am not.

Of course. Nobody hates Nature. And
there are no bigots. Just ask them.
Nobody thinks of themselves that way.
Of course, we know better.
....Which is EXACTLY why I defined it that way.
Actions speak louder than rhetoric. Agree?

=============================

On Fri, 11 Jan, Tunderbar said about:
Re: Why Junk-Sciencers assume EVIL CONSPIRACY


> On Jan 10,(Doug Bashford) wrote:
..............snip

> > You sound like a junk-sciencer. Like the Nature Haters
> > and Creation Sciencers, and Dittohead Parrots, you know
> > almost nothing about your favorite hatred.
>
>
> Junk-sciencer? Nature haters? Creation Sciencers? Dittoheads Parrots?
> You make it sound as if these are recognized organized evil
> conspiratorial groups.

Well, I'm glad you raised that objection. Allow me to
clarify. Of course, this format requires gross
oversimplification.

Junk-sciencer?
Already addressed them. A diversified group, thus "organized"
and "conspiratorial" is out of the question. Common traits as
noted. Most are just cute and ignorant-as-noted, not Evil.
They are the opposite of scientists since they have a powerful
need to shut out input from reality in favor of pet preconcieved
notions and theories. Thus: "near-religious."

* The insane twist the facts to fit their world view.
* The rational change their world view to fit the facts.

Nature haters?
See top of this post. also my post yesterday:
...."Don't call me a NATURE HATER !! "
Some are motivated by religious beliefs such as
Earth, all-powerful toy and toilet from God, some are
what I call optimistic sci-fi Cornucopians, some
are knowingly and unknowingly funded by greedy
corporations, in particular the polluters and
extraction industries and politically supported by
their pet bribed politicians and Limbaugh type
propagandists. Yes, some of those are filthy-Evil.
While these too have formal support structures,
such as Web sites and mailing lists, it's not a
formal conspiracy.

Creation Sciencers?
Of course these guys are not "near-religious" but
typically very religious. Their pet preconcieved
(and often hidden) agenda is to get religion taught as
a science in public schools. While their message
pays lipservice to science, it's both anti-science
and anti-Christian. These are ends-justifies-the-means
people, and thus dishonest. Is that Evil? You tell me.
Conspiritorial? Not formally, just driven by common
desires, although they DO HAVE real and formal support
groups such as Web sites and mailing lists.

Dittoheads Parrots & Co?
Limbaugh was the first, as far as I know, to publicly disavow
all repected inputs from reality: science, academia, etc,
even encyclopedias! ...to popularize the notion
that everything is only a matter of (political) opinion.
This mindset is now evident in much Right Wing rhetoric.

* The insane twist the facts to fit their world view.
* The rational change their world view to fit the facts.


> Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Thanks for the oppurtunity to clarify.

> Can you spell "paranoia"?

You mean like: "I'm not CRAZY!... SCIENCE IS !!?"

> How about "fascism"?

You bet! Wanna talk about that right-wing thang?
Google NewsGroups - Results 346 for fascism author:bashford

Sorted by relevance
fascism...Re: Highway one-oh-one
I happened to have this lying around:
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism,
since it is the merger of state and corporate power."
- Benito Mussolini ,father of fascism.

** "In the counsels of Government, we must guard
** against the acquisition of unwarranted influence,
** whether sought or unsought, by the Military ...
Jun 8 2003 by Doug Bashford - 14 messages - 4 authors

Mussolini's "Corporatism" Group: sci.econ
"Left-wing Fascism." Right. Getting all sides is normally
productive. Perhaps the longest thread on Usenet, over 1000
replies, debates if the Nazis were socialists.
.... Under Fascism in Italy, employers were organized into
syndicates known as "corporations" according to their industries,
and these groups were given ...
Sep 7 2003 by Doug Bashford - 12 messages - 5 authors