BMW twin turbo wagon

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By DAVID HASSALL 23 January 2008

TWO new wagon models have been added to the BMW 3 Series range, including
a range-topping 335i version powered by the company’s mighty twin-
turbocharged 3.0-litre six-cylinder engine.

This means that the impressive 225kW/400Nm straight-six – last year’s
international engine of the year award winner – is now available in all
four 3 Series body variants; sedan, wagon, coupe and cabriolet.

At the other end of the spectrum, BMW Australia has added a new entry-
level wagon in the form of the 320i Touring, powered by the same
115kW/200Nm 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine as the sedan and sharing its
standard features list.

The 320i Touring is priced from $54,200 with a six-speed manual ($3200
more than the sedan), with an Executive version priced from $59,100 and a
six-speed automatic transmission adding $2600 to both.

With the six-speed Steptronic auto as standard (with steering wheel
gearshift paddles), 335i Touring pricing starts from $108,600 ($4100 more
than the 335i Sedan).

With three models in the 3 Series Touring stable now – compared to just
one previously in the form of the 2.5-litre petrol 323i – BMW Australia
expects its wagon sales to double this year to more than 300 units. Last
year’s tally of 166 units was a 3 Series Touring record.

Although the 320i entry level model should become the volume seller, the
company’s experience with the 3 Series Coupe launch suggests that the
335i might initially be the top-seller.

Interestingly, there is no diesel 3 Series Touring variant, as yet.

“With these new models we expect to further drive and grow the market for
practical and sporty 3 Series Touring models in Australia,” said BMW
Australia marketing manager Tom Noble.

“Customers looking for increased practicality and a dynamic driving
experience to match their lifestyle will look no further than the new BMW
3 Series Touring range.”

The 335i Touring certainly provides plenty in the way of dynamic driving
experience, accelerating from rest to 100km/h in just 5.9 seconds, thanks
to its massive 400Nm of torque being available from just 1300rpm all the
way up to 5000rpm.

Fuel economy on the combined cycle is 9.8L/100km.

The 320i Touring accelerates from 0-100km/h in 9.3 seconds and returns
8.0L/100km (while the existing 323i Touring has figures of 8.2 seconds
and 8.6L/100km respectively).

A six-speed Steptronic automatic gearbox is standard on the 335i Touring
and optionally available ($2,600) for the remaining 3 Series Touring
models.

BMW 3 Series Touring range pricing:
320i $54,200
320i (a) $56,800
320i Executive $59,100
320i Executive (a) $61,700
323i $68,900
323i (a) $71,500
335i (a) $108,600

The 335i would be a real nice drive.
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Dan

[Ext User(Patrick)]

Dan--- wrote:
> http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/
> D498A0DF957F985BCA2573D8001A5D3F
>
> By DAVID HASSALL 23 January 2008
>
> TWO new wagon models have been added to the BMW 3 Series range, including
> a range-topping 335i version powered by the company’s mighty twin-
> turbocharged 3.0-litre six-cylinder engine.
>
> This means that the impressive 225kW/400Nm straight-six – last year’s
> international engine of the year award winner – is now available in all
> four 3 Series body variants; sedan, wagon, coupe and cabriolet.
>
SNIP
>
> The 335i Touring certainly provides plenty in the way of dynamic driving
> experience, accelerating from rest to 100km/h in just 5.9 seconds, thanks
> to its massive 400Nm of torque being available from just 1300rpm all the
> way up to 5000rpm.
>

Mmmm. My wife said I needed to get a wagon or van to carry her shop
supplies in...

[Ext User(Dan---)]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:35:40 +1100, Patrick PCM code reading says:

m.
>>
>>
> Mmmm. My wife said I needed to get a wagon or van to carry her shop
> supplies in...

Yup would be a great shopping trolley. :-)
Although ditch the I-drive and dump $20,000 off the price of the 335i I
would even consider one. :-)

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Dan

[Ext User(Trevor Wilson)]

"Dan---" <enter.email@here.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/
> D498A0DF957F985BCA2573D8001A5D3F
>
> By DAVID HASSALL 23 January 2008
>
> TWO new wagon models have been added to the BMW 3 Series range, including
> a range-topping 335i version powered by the company's mighty twin-
> turbocharged 3.0-litre six-cylinder engine.
>
> This means that the impressive 225kW/400Nm straight-six - last year's
> international engine of the year award winner - is now available in all
> four 3 Series body variants; sedan, wagon, coupe and cabriolet.

**I don't understand this. The M3 engine delivers around 250kW. Why not use
a slightly de-tuned version of that? Why bugger around with turbo chargers?
Am I missing something?

Trevor Wilson

[Ext User(bob@magnecor.com.au.invalid)]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:27:09 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au>, after considering some
belly-button fluf, wrote:

>
>"Dan---" <enter.email@here.com> wrote in message
>news:13pfjacmsqddsda@corp.supernews.com...
>> http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/
>> D498A0DF957F985BCA2573D8001A5D3F
>>
>> By DAVID HASSALL 23 January 2008
>>
>> TWO new wagon models have been added to the BMW 3 Series range, including
>> a range-topping 335i version powered by the company's mighty twin-
>> turbocharged 3.0-litre six-cylinder engine.
>>
>> This means that the impressive 225kW/400Nm straight-six - last year's
>> international engine of the year award winner - is now available in all
>> four 3 Series body variants; sedan, wagon, coupe and cabriolet.
>
>**I don't understand this. The M3 engine delivers around 250kW. Why not use
>a slightly de-tuned version of that? Why bugger around with turbo chargers?
>Am I missing something?

It is called marketing.

Bob

[Ext User(Dan---)]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:31:38 +1100, bob PCM code reading says:


>>
>>**I don't understand this. The M3 engine delivers around 250kW. Why not
>>use a slightly de-tuned version of that? Why bugger around with turbo
>>chargers? Am I missing something?
>
> It is called marketing.

Or usable torque in the lower revs.
The M3 6 cylinder is a highly strung engine and needs to have the bejesus
belted out of it to get the full potential out of it. The twin turbo 6
would be a more livable car to drive around in because of its wide torque
range.


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Dan

[Ext User(Patrick)]

Dan--- wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:31:38 +1100, bob PCM code reading says:
>
>
>>> **I don't understand this. The M3 engine delivers around 250kW. Why not
>>> use a slightly de-tuned version of that? Why bugger around with turbo
>>> chargers? Am I missing something?
>> It is called marketing.
>
> Or usable torque in the lower revs.
> The M3 6 cylinder is a highly strung engine and needs to have the bejesus
> belted out of it to get the full potential out of it. The twin turbo 6
> would be a more livable car to drive around in because of its wide torque
> range.
>
>
And with a bit of fiddling would have more power than the M3 to boot.

[Ext User(Dan---)]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:51:42 +1100, Patrick PCM code reading says:

>>
>>
> And with a bit of fiddling would have more power than the M3 to boot.

Yup.

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Dan

[Ext User(David Z)]

Why do they bother? Nobody buys luxury wagons... SUVs dominate the luxury
segment.

"Dan---" <enter.email@here.com> wrote in message
news:13pfjacmsqddsda@corp.supernews.com...
> http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/
> D498A0DF957F985BCA2573D8001A5D3F
>
> By DAVID HASSALL 23 January 2008
>
> TWO new wagon models have been added to the BMW 3 Series range, including
> a range-topping 335i version powered by the company’s mighty twin-
> turbocharged 3.0-litre six-cylinder engine.
>
> This means that the impressive 225kW/400Nm straight-six – last year’s
> international engine of the year award winner – is now available in all
> four 3 Series body variants; sedan, wagon, coupe and cabriolet.
>
> At the other end of the spectrum, BMW Australia has added a new entry-
> level wagon in the form of the 320i Touring, powered by the same
> 115kW/200Nm 2.0-litre four-cylinder engine as the sedan and sharing its
> standard features list.
>
> The 320i Touring is priced from $54,200 with a six-speed manual ($3200
> more than the sedan), with an Executive version priced from $59,100 and a
> six-speed automatic transmission adding $2600 to both.
>
> With the six-speed Steptronic auto as standard (with steering wheel
> gearshift paddles), 335i Touring pricing starts from $108,600 ($4100 more
> than the 335i Sedan).
>
> With three models in the 3 Series Touring stable now – compared to just
> one previously in the form of the 2.5-litre petrol 323i – BMW Australia
> expects its wagon sales to double this year to more than 300 units. Last
> year’s tally of 166 units was a 3 Series Touring record.
>
> Although the 320i entry level model should become the volume seller, the
> company’s experience with the 3 Series Coupe launch suggests that the
> 335i might initially be the top-seller.
>
> Interestingly, there is no diesel 3 Series Touring variant, as yet.
>
> “With these new models we expect to further drive and grow the market for
> practical and sporty 3 Series Touring models in Australia,” said BMW
> Australia marketing manager Tom Noble.
>
> “Customers looking for increased practicality and a dynamic driving
> experience to match their lifestyle will look no further than the new BMW
> 3 Series Touring range.”
>
> The 335i Touring certainly provides plenty in the way of dynamic driving
> experience, accelerating from rest to 100km/h in just 5.9 seconds, thanks
> to its massive 400Nm of torque being available from just 1300rpm all the
> way up to 5000rpm.
>
> Fuel economy on the combined cycle is 9.8L/100km.
>
> The 320i Touring accelerates from 0-100km/h in 9.3 seconds and returns
> 8.0L/100km (while the existing 323i Touring has figures of 8.2 seconds
> and 8.6L/100km respectively).
>
> A six-speed Steptronic automatic gearbox is standard on the 335i Touring
> and optionally available ($2,600) for the remaining 3 Series Touring
> models.
>
> BMW 3 Series Touring range pricing:
> 320i $54,200
> 320i (a) $56,800
> 320i Executive $59,100
> 320i Executive (a) $61,700
> 323i $68,900
> 323i (a) $71,500
> 335i (a) $108,600
>
> The 335i would be a real nice drive.
> --
> Regards
> Dan
>

[Ext User(Trevor Wilson)]

"Dan---" <enter.email@here.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:31:38 +1100, bob PCM code reading says:
>
>
>>>
>>>**I don't understand this. The M3 engine delivers around 250kW. Why not
>>>use a slightly de-tuned version of that? Why bugger around with turbo
>>>chargers? Am I missing something?
>>
>> It is called marketing.
>
> Or usable torque in the lower revs.
> The M3 6 cylinder is a highly strung engine and needs to have the bejesus
> belted out of it to get the full potential out of it. The twin turbo 6
> would be a more livable car to drive around in because of its wide torque
> range.

**OK. That makes sense.

Trevor Wilson

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"Dan---" <enter.email@here.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:51:42 +1100, Patrick PCM code reading says:
>
>>>
>>>
>> And with a bit of fiddling would have more power than the M3 to boot.
>
> Yup.
>
> --
> Regards
> Dan
>

haven't they gone to a V8 in the M3 now ??

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[Ext User(Dan---)]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:29:59 +0000, Atheist Chaplain PCM code reading
says:


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>> Regards
>> Dan
>>
>>
> haven't they gone to a V8 in the M3 now ??

Yeah although we were talking about the superseded 6 Cylinder M3.
Although I would think a tweaked twin turbo 6 would give the new M3 V8 a
good run for its money.
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"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@_SPAMBLOCK_rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
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> "Dan---" <enter.email@here.com> wrote in message
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>> http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/
>> D498A0DF957F985BCA2573D8001A5D3F
>>
>> By DAVID HASSALL 23 January 2008
>>
>> TWO new wagon models have been added to the BMW 3 Series range, including
>> a range-topping 335i version powered by the company's mighty twin-
>> turbocharged 3.0-litre six-cylinder engine.
>>
>> This means that the impressive 225kW/400Nm straight-six - last year's
>> international engine of the year award winner - is now available in all
>> four 3 Series body variants; sedan, wagon, coupe and cabriolet.
>
> **I don't understand this. The M3 engine delivers around 250kW. Why not
> use a slightly de-tuned version of that? Why bugger around with turbo
> chargers? Am I missing something?
>
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Perhaps BMW is reserving the M3 engine for an M3 wagon version ... an M4
perhaps?

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[Ext User(GrassyNoel)]

Twin turbo and only 225 kW?

[Ext User(Dan---)]

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:09:29 -0800, GrassyNoel PCM code reading says:

> Twin turbo and only 225 kW?

Its using a rather low boost.
Getting 300 kw from it would be a walk in the park.

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