NSW Police records about you are ***never*** erased.

[Ext User(Noodle)]

Hello.

NSW Police keeps records of all interactions with the public, about
both criminals and the general public, through the use of a free-form
database called a CENTRAL NAMES INDEX.

Everything from questions to crimes are stores on their database.

This has been around since 1990.

It is *IMPOSSIBLE* to expunge your name from this Index.

It is also *IMPOSSIBLE* to correct any wrong information on this
Index.

I wrote by postal mail to the NSW Privacy Commissioner (Ms. Philippa
O'Dowd) about this, and asked her how to expunge my name off CNI
records.

Her reply was, basically, "You can't & Tough Luck. We don't care
about your personal information is NSW Police are involved.":

"
MR YYYY XXXXXX
PO Box# 1048
Bondi Junction
NSW 1355

Dear Mr YYYYYYY,

Thank you for your letter regarding the "Central Name Index".

We advise, firstly, that we are unable to provide you with legal
advice. We can, however, try to provide you with some General Advice
regarding what we know as the Central Name Index (CNI) and the
information about you that you say is stored on this Index.

It is our understanding that a CNI number is assigned to a person who
interacts in some way with NSW Police, for example, a person reporting
a crime or seeking police assistance would be assigned a CNI number
and their details would be stores on a database. We suggest that you
contact NSW Police for more information how how the CNI works, and in
what circumstances a CNI would be assigned to a person.

We do not know how or if a person's details may be expunged from
Police records. We suspect that they cannot.

We advise that we do not know who 'owns' the data on the CNI, nor do
we know of the name of the computer server that this is information is
held on. Again, we suggest that you contact NSW Police to obtain this
information.

NSW Police are exempt from complying with the Information Protection
Principles in the Privacy Information Protection Act 1998 (NSW), under
section 27.

We are not aware, in recent memory, of any complaints about the CNI
being brough to Privacy NSW, and thus, have not had cause to
investigate the Police in relation to their handling of personal
information contained within the CNI.

If you have experienced any problems as a result of your information
being available on the CNI, for example, if you believe someone has
improperly used this information, then please write to me with a
complaint and we will try to assist you.

If you have any quieries, please contact Deborah Caminiti at Privacy
NSW on (02) 8688-8585.

Yours Sincerely,

Philippa O'Dowd,
Acting Privacy Commissioner
"

[Ext User()]

And your point?
You have a criminal record for child molestation you want removed or
something?

[Ext User(Noodle)]

Even innocent people asking questions of a NSW Police officer are on
this database.

I have never committed a crime, nor been to a court, yet am on this
database. As you also are.

It is an infringement of civil liberties and human rights.

Why does your Baycorp Advantage credit file get wiped after 7 years,
but you cannot change records here.

It's against human rights.

[Ext User(jonz)]

news wrote:
> And your point?
> You have a criminal record for child molestation you want removed or
> something?


NO you non compis ****, his point is that any time you contact the
pleece FOR WHATEVER REASON your details are recorded on the cni and all
is available to anybody who has access......not necessarily kosher
pple...and you think thats ok..????? get yer hand off it....pffffffttttttt
>
>

--
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[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Noodle" <noodle@spam.la> wrote in message
news:4b54f0a1-0686-4b03-b4e7-8071c0372009@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...

> It's against human rights.

You seriously need to get a ****ing life.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Blondie)]

what has your post got to do with this group ****head, piss off you human
rights ****tard with something to hide
"Noodle" <noodle@spam.la> wrote in message
news:ff972e77-e6c8-4b75-ae4d-d4c10169ac48@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com...
> Hello.
>
> NSW Police keeps records of all interactions with the public, about
> both criminals and the general public, through the use of a free-form
> database called a CENTRAL NAMES INDEX.
>
> Everything from questions to crimes are stores on their database.
>
> This has been around since 1990.
>
> It is *IMPOSSIBLE* to expunge your name from this Index.
>
> It is also *IMPOSSIBLE* to correct any wrong information on this
> Index.
>
> I wrote by postal mail to the NSW Privacy Commissioner (Ms. Philippa
> O'Dowd) about this, and asked her how to expunge my name off CNI
> records.
>
> Her reply was, basically, "You can't & Tough Luck. We don't care
> about your personal information is NSW Police are involved.":
>
> "
> MR YYYY XXXXXX
> PO Box# 1048
> Bondi Junction
> NSW 1355
>
> Dear Mr YYYYYYY,
>
> Thank you for your letter regarding the "Central Name Index".
>
> We advise, firstly, that we are unable to provide you with legal
> advice. We can, however, try to provide you with some General Advice
> regarding what we know as the Central Name Index (CNI) and the
> information about you that you say is stored on this Index.
>
> It is our understanding that a CNI number is assigned to a person who
> interacts in some way with NSW Police, for example, a person reporting
> a crime or seeking police assistance would be assigned a CNI number
> and their details would be stores on a database. We suggest that you
> contact NSW Police for more information how how the CNI works, and in
> what circumstances a CNI would be assigned to a person.
>
> We do not know how or if a person's details may be expunged from
> Police records. We suspect that they cannot.
>
> We advise that we do not know who 'owns' the data on the CNI, nor do
> we know of the name of the computer server that this is information is
> held on. Again, we suggest that you contact NSW Police to obtain this
> information.
>
> NSW Police are exempt from complying with the Information Protection
> Principles in the Privacy Information Protection Act 1998 (NSW), under
> section 27.
>
> We are not aware, in recent memory, of any complaints about the CNI
> being brough to Privacy NSW, and thus, have not had cause to
> investigate the Police in relation to their handling of personal
> information contained within the CNI.
>
> If you have experienced any problems as a result of your information
> being available on the CNI, for example, if you believe someone has
> improperly used this information, then please write to me with a
> complaint and we will try to assist you.
>
> If you have any quieries, please contact Deborah Caminiti at Privacy
> NSW on (02) 8688-8585.
>
> Yours Sincerely,
>
> Philippa O'Dowd,
> Acting Privacy Commissioner
> "

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:34:48 +1100, jonz blathered on in :

> news wrote:
>> And your point?
>> You have a criminal record for child molestation you want removed or
>> something?
>
>
> NO you non compis ****, his point is that any time you contact the
> pleece FOR WHATEVER REASON your details are recorded on the cni and all
> is available to anybody who has access......not necessarily kosher
> pple...and you think thats ok..????? get yer hand off
> it....pffffffttttttt
>>
>>

But it's waaay better than that.
CNI is just one database.
Ergo, as with virtually all databases out there, It WILL be mined.
Pattern matching WILL be used.
It will be rubbed up against other databases as required.
Think banking, taxation, social security, phone records, travel details,
medical records, insurance records etc etc etc...and wait for it -
national criminal fingerprint and DNA records to boot.
You can bet the prime database as well as the product of matching will be
miss-used even in so simple a manner of some geek accepting a bribe for
an 'extract to order' by turds out there intent on financial gain by
whatever means as well as with other geeks similar games.
This is more often done as an 'exchange' of course - geeks think it's
almost legal.


Anyhow, this rabid collection and collation of information is THE growth
industry of our times and may be used to our benefit occasionally. I have
to say I've not heard of one instance of that happening to this time.
For the rest of the time it's being used to crap on us from an enormous
height by all sorts of arseholes - funnily enough, we're usually paying
for that crap.

Just think - with a bit of extremely simple mucking about with data - one
enquiry can yield ALL the information held on a person by any number of
GovCo and Corporado owned data bases. BTW, this information is not
necessarily in this country and beholden to ANY of it's
StupidStatuteLaws, either:-)

The mind boggles.



--
Toby

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Toby Ponsenby" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:fnv9cb$ntv$1@registered.motzarella.org...

> The mind boggles.

Yours does. Mine couldn't give a shit.

They *already* know everything about you, and if they *want* to do anything
to you information on a bunch of databases is small fish. Only the truly
paranoid think that because their details circulate in electronic
authorityland that the sky is going to cave in.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(gabydewilde)]

On Feb 1, 1:03 pm, "Blondie" <bitemespamm...@backatya.com.au> wrote:
> piss off you human rights ****tard

A human rights ****tard?

Those federal disinformation agents get better by the day.

HAHAHAHAHA

you must be new on the job Blundie! HAHAHAHAHA

You should try stick with the script the first few weeks.

I mean, like this you wont get promoted to shoe licker any time soon.

[Ext User(RainbowWarrior)]

"Noodle" <noodle@spam.la> wrote in message
news:ff972e77-e6c8-4b75-ae4d-d4c10169ac48@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com...
> Hello.
>
> NSW Police keeps records of all interactions with the public, about
> both criminals and the general public, through the use of a free-form
> database called a CENTRAL NAMES INDEX.
>
> Everything from questions to crimes are stores on their database.
>
> This has been around since 1990.
>
> It is *IMPOSSIBLE* to expunge your name from this Index.
>
> It is also *IMPOSSIBLE* to correct any wrong information on this
> Index.
>
> I wrote by postal mail to the NSW Privacy Commissioner (Ms. Philippa
> O'Dowd) about this, and asked her how to expunge my name off CNI
> records.
>
> Her reply was, basically, "You can't & Tough Luck. We don't care
> about your personal information is NSW Police are involved.":

Yeah about time all Ned Kelly and other bushrangers records were
erased................................... :P

[Ext User(RainbowWarrior)]

"Noodle" <noodle@spam.la> wrote in message
news:4b54f0a1-0686-4b03-b4e7-8071c0372009@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
> Even innocent people asking questions of a NSW Police officer are on
> this database.
>
> I have never committed a crime, nor been to a court, yet am on this
> database. As you also are.
>
> It is an infringement of civil liberties and human rights.
>
> Why does your Baycorp Advantage credit file get wiped after 7 years,
> but you cannot change records here.
>
> It's against human rights.

Ohh boo hoo, you asked a question and it's there forever, you better talk to
Google too as your newsgroup posts aren't erased at 7 year interval either

[Ext User(the_dawggie)]

On Feb 1, 5:38 pm, Noodle <noo...@spam.la> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> NSW Police keeps records of all interactions with the public, about
> both criminals and the general public, through the use of a free-form
> database called a CENTRAL NAMES INDEX.

Although I have no criminal record, there are entries
(two) on my driving record that don't relate to any
vehicle I've owned. Bike (unregistered) yes.

I've thought of asking prezactly why I have this
recorded on my class C CAR licence when I
don't hold a motorcycle licence, or rego. I have
a long expired cycle rego I don't need as I
don't ride on the road (still has the rego plate).

Saw that the day before yesterday, and know why
I don't ride in traffic. Ambo required.

[Ext User(RogerM)]

"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
news:47a33390$0$11517$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
>
> "Toby Ponsenby" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:fnv9cb$ntv$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>> The mind boggles.
>
> Yours does. Mine couldn't give a shit.
>
> They *already* know everything about you, and if they *want* to do
> anything to you information on a bunch of databases is small fish. Only
> the truly paranoid think that because their details circulate in
> electronic authorityland that the sky is going to cave in.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.

FWIW, I agree with you. I couldn't give a ****ing rats what they have on me
because unless it's been tampered with, then it becomes a whole different
story. But in the meantime, I don't have too much to worry about apart from
the odd undue noise/speeding tickets and I mean how many of you don't have
those?

Beers & Cheers

Roger

[Ext User(RogerM)]

"gabydewilde" <gdewilde@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a26bd35b-ceec-4a16-8b40-ff5658a351b2@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 1, 1:03 pm, "Blondie" <bitemespamm...@backatya.com.au> wrote:
>> piss off you human rights ****tard
>
> A human rights ****tard?
>
> Those federal disinformation agents get better by the day.
>
> HAHAHAHAHA
>
> you must be new on the job Blundie! HAHAHAHAHA
>
> You should try stick with the script the first few weeks.
>
> I mean, like this you wont get promoted to shoe licker any time soon.

LOL. I get your point.

Beers & Cheers

Roger

[Ext User(Klompmeester)]

"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
news:47a33390$0$11517$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
>
> "Toby Ponsenby" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:fnv9cb$ntv$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>> The mind boggles.
>
> Yours does. Mine couldn't give a shit.
>
> They *already* know everything about you, and if they *want* to do
> anything to you information on a bunch of databases is small fish. Only
> the truly paranoid think that because their details circulate in
> electronic authorityland that the sky is going to cave in.
>

I think there is a certain anonymity amongst numbers anyway.

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:58:25 +1100, Noddy blathered on in :

> "Toby Ponsenby" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:fnv9cb$ntv$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>> The mind boggles.
>
> Yours does. Mine couldn't give a shit.
>
> They *already* know everything about you, and if they *want* to do
> anything to you information on a bunch of databases is small fish. Only
> the truly paranoid think that because their details circulate in
> electronic authorityland that the sky is going to cave in.

These days, "truly paranoid" = "soothsayer".

If you believe TurdsWithHeapsOfMoney aren't in the process of ripping you
blind by taking unfair advantage of technology to buy respectability at
your expense, I have a bridge to sell you.
You might not give a shit now - but you will....the whole idea is to
pander to the don't give a shit mentality while they heat up that poker.

They've already lit the fire and thrown the poker on it. Warming up
nicely, it is, too.


--
Toby

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:11:09 +0900, Klompmeester blathered on in :

> "Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> news:47a33390$0$11517$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
>>
>> "Toby Ponsenby" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:fnv9cb$ntv$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>>> The mind boggles.
>>
>> Yours does. Mine couldn't give a shit.
>>
>> They *already* know everything about you, and if they *want* to do
>> anything to you information on a bunch of databases is small fish. Only
>> the truly paranoid think that because their details circulate in
>> electronic authorityland that the sky is going to cave in.
>>
>>
> I think there is a certain anonymity amongst numbers anyway.

There was such a thing - BC...



--
Toby

[Ext User(Noddy)]

"Toby Ponsenby" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:fo0erq$bjq$1@registered.motzarella.org...

> These days, "truly paranoid" = "soothsayer".

No, it means truly paranoid like it always has.

> If you believe TurdsWithHeapsOfMoney aren't in the process of ripping you
> blind by taking unfair advantage of technology to buy respectability at
> your expense, I have a bridge to sell you.

No, I don't believe that at all.

I know it's going on, but I *accept* it as part of modern life. Like a lot
of other things we have to put up with, there's no way around it. You either
accept it or go live in a cave and get off the grid.

> You might not give a shit now - but you will....the whole idea is to
> pander to the don't give a shit mentality while they heat up that poker.

I assure you, the day will never come in my lifetime where I care about any
of this any more than I do right now.

> They've already lit the fire and thrown the poker on it. Warming up
> nicely, it is, too.

Two clear cut choices here Toby: Put up with it of **** off.

Your call.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Toby Ponsenby)]

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:03:16 +1100, Noddy blathered on in :

> "Toby Ponsenby" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:fo0erq$bjq$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>> These days, "truly paranoid" = "soothsayer".
>
> No, it means truly paranoid like it always has.
>
>> If you believe TurdsWithHeapsOfMoney aren't in the process of ripping
>> you blind by taking unfair advantage of technology to buy
>> respectability at your expense, I have a bridge to sell you.
>
> No, I don't believe that at all.
>
> I know it's going on, but I *accept* it as part of modern life. Like a
> lot of other things we have to put up with, there's no way around it.
> You either accept it or go live in a cave and get off the grid.
>
>> You might not give a shit now - but you will....the whole idea is to
>> pander to the don't give a shit mentality while they heat up that
>> poker.
>
> I assure you, the day will never come in my lifetime where I care about
> any of this any more than I do right now.
>
>> They've already lit the fire and thrown the poker on it. Warming up
>> nicely, it is, too.
>
> Two clear cut choices here Toby: Put up with it of **** off.
>
> Your call.

Not taken.
I'll do neither.
I certainly *accept* what's happening, since there's No Choice in that
matter - but putting up with it is an entirely different matter.

****ing off to anywhere in particular won't change a thing.

But what I can do is to create an awareness of the Scams out there - most
of which go unannounced here and in other places.
Besides, shit-stirring those that don 't know what's going on tends to
focus their attention on the fact that stuff IS going down that most
certainly is not to their advantage.
Faint hope - but, self-interest may prevail for the victims if they get
their arses away from the TV and other disgusting edifices of the real
criminals in society . Eventually.

Besides, there are Lots of bridges to sell out there.








--
Toby

[Ext User(jonz)]

Noddy wrote:
> "Toby Ponsenby" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:fnv9cb$ntv$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>> The mind boggles.
>
> Yours does. Mine couldn't give a shit.
>
> They *already* know everything about you, and if they *want* to do anything
> to you information on a bunch of databases is small fish.

explain yourself oddy.......



Only the truly
> paranoid think that because their details circulate in electronic
> authorityland that the sky is going to cave in.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
>

--
Don`t be sexist...........Broads hate that.