Ext User(B00ZN)
22-02-2008, 11:43 AM
"Roger Coppock" <rcoppock@adnc.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 21, 2:26 am, chemist <tom-bol...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/hadcrut-jan08.png
> This graph using data from the Hadley Centre is indicating that the
> global temperature is taking a nosedive.
The graph does not indicate anything.
That Tom Bolger thinks it does is an
indicatation that he needs an introductory
course in statistics.
A Clue for the clueless: it takes about
three decades to establish a climate
trend.
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In that case, my clueless friend, the miniscule warming from 1980 to
1998 is not an established trend!
Thank you for debunking yourself, Coppcock!
Regards
Bonzo
"The notion of a static, unchanging climate is foreign to the history of
the earth or any other planet with a fluid envelope. The fact that the
developed world went into hysterics over changes in global mean
temperature of a few tenths of a degree will astound future
generations." Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member
of the National Academy of Sciences
Ext User(V-for-Vendicar)
25-02-2008, 04:39 AM
"B00ZN" <B00ZN@doood.com.au> wrote
> In that case, my clueless friend, the miniscule warming from 1980 to 1998
> is not an established trend!
But for more than a year now you have continued to claim - in the face of
all evidence - that the world has cooled during this period. In fact you
said exactly that just 2 days ago.
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January was warmest on record - Weather- msnbc.comSkip navigation
January was warmest on record worldwide
Scientists say El Niño, global warming are responsible for global
updated 8:29 a.m. PT, Fri., Feb. 16, 2007
WASHINGTON - It may be cold comfort during a frigid February, but last month
was
by far the hottest January on record across the globe.
The broken record was fueled by a waning El Niño and a gradually warming
world,
according to U.S. scientists who reported the data Thursday. Records on the
planet's temperature have been kept since 1880.
Spurred on by unusually warm Siberia, Canada, northern Asia and Europe, the
world's land areas were 3.4 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than a normal January,
according to the U.S. National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. That
didn't just nudge past the old record set in 2002, but broke that mark by
0.81
degrees, which meteorologists said is a lot, since such records often are
broken
by hundredths of a degree at a time.
"That's pretty unusual for a record to be broken by that much," said the
data
center's scientific services chief, David Easterling. "I was very
surprised."
The scientists went beyond their normal double-checking and took the unusual
step of running computer climate models "just to make sure that what we're
seeing was real," Easterling said.
It was.
Getting used to broken records
"From one standpoint it is not unusual to have a new record because we've
become
accustomed to having records broken," said Jay Lawrimore, climate monitoring
branch chief. But January, he said, was a bigger jump than the world has
seen in
about 10 years.
The temperature of the world's land and water combined - the most effective
measurement - was 1.53 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than normal, breaking the
old
record by more than one-quarter of a degree. Ocean temperatures alone didn't
set
a record.
In the Northern Hemisphere, land areas were 4.1 degrees Fahrenheit warmer
than
normal for January, breaking the old record by about three-quarters of a
degree.
But the United States was about normal. The nation was 0.94 degrees
Fahrenheit
above normal for January, ranking only the 49th warmest since 1895.
The world's temperature record was driven by northern latitudes. Siberia was
on
average 9 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than normal. Eastern Europe had
temperatures
averaging 8 degrees Fahrenheit above normal. Canada on average was more than
5
degrees warmer than normal.
Larger increases in temperature farther north, compared to mid-latitudes, is
"sort of the global warming signal," Easterling said. It is what climate
scientists predict happens and will happen more frequently with global
warming,
according to an authoritative report by hundreds of climate scientists
issued
this month.
Temps consistent with changing climate
Meteorologists aren't blaming the warmer January on global warming alone,
but
they said the higher temperature was consistent with climate change.
Easterling said a weakening El Niño - a warming of the central Pacific Ocean
that tends to cause changes in weather across the globe - was a factor, but
not
a big one.
But Kevin Trenberth, director of climate analysis at the National Center for
Atmospheric Research, said El Niño made big changes worldwide that added up.
Temperature records break regularly with global warming, Trenberth said, but
"with a little bit of El Niño thrown in, you don't just break records, you
smash
records."
As much of the United States already knows, February doesn't seem as
unusually
warm as January was.
"Even with global warming, you're not going to keep that cold air bottled up
in
Alaska and Canada forever," Easterling said.
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