Haven't seen one of these signs for years

[Ext User(Kev)]

Spotted on a back road between Mullumbimbi and Lismore at a place called
Eureka
I suspect that the assumed max would be 100
but the road had only one place where that was possible, the rest was
30-40kph due to the very narrow sections with trees right at the edge of
the bitumen


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Kev

[Ext User(Mot Adv)]

"Kev" <kevcat@optunet.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Spotted on a back road between Mullumbimbi and Lismore at a place called
> Eureka
> I suspect that the assumed max would be 100
> but the road had only one place where that was possible, the rest was
> 30-40kph due to the very narrow sections with trees right at the edge of
> the bitumen
>
>
> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/0306081219-00.jpg
> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/0306081219-01.jpg

A couple down at St Albans west of SYD.

Derestriction signs are discontinued in NSW, prohibitied from the "NSW Speed
Zoning Guidelines". Councils had been installing them on crappy roads and
the authorisation for them to do so was withdrawn back in 2004.

AS1742.4 of 1999 catalogues the sign as an R4-2, meaning ".... that no speed
limit applies to the road beyond the sign". (applies 'Under another law of
this jurisdiction' at ARR25).

In the UN Convention, the sign is cataloged as a C,17a "End Of All Local
Prohibitions Imposed On Moving Vehicles".

On Australian roads the REPLACEMENT for this sign is the R4-12 - "End Speed
Limit" sign, contains the word "END" with a number in a circle representing
the ceasing speed-limit. Thi sign falls back to the rural default, both in
AS1742.4 of 1999 AND in ARR.

The derestriction sign *may* be re-introduced to remove a speed-limit, but
only to 'lengths of road'. The exception rather than the rule.

Jeremy.

[Ext User(Doug Jewell)]

Kev wrote:
>
> Spotted on a back road between Mullumbimbi and Lismore at a place called
> Eureka
> I suspect that the assumed max would be 100
> but the road had only one place where that was possible, the rest was
> 30-40kph due to the very narrow sections with trees right at the edge of
> the bitumen
>
>
> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/0306081219-00.jpg
> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/0306081219-01.jpg
I spent a few days in the Northern Rivers region last week,
and those signs are all over the place down there.
They actually seem to work - I noticed that where there was
a speed limit, people seemed to try to drive at the limit,
even if it was excessive for the situation. But where the
derestriction signs were, they seemed to drive at
appropriate speeds.
>
>
> Kev

[Ext User(E. Newnes)]

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:05:01 +1000, Doug Jewell
<ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote:

>Kev wrote:
>>
>> Spotted on a back road between Mullumbimbi and Lismore at a place called
>> Eureka
>> I suspect that the assumed max would be 100
>> but the road had only one place where that was possible, the rest was
>> 30-40kph due to the very narrow sections with trees right at the edge of
>> the bitumen
>>
>>
>> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/0306081219-00.jpg
>> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~kevcat/pics/0306081219-01.jpg
>I spent a few days in the Northern Rivers region last week,
>and those signs are all over the place down there.
>They actually seem to work - I noticed that where there was
>a speed limit, people seemed to try to drive at the limit,
>even if it was excessive for the situation. But where the
>derestriction signs were, they seemed to drive at
>appropriate speeds.

Just what the appropriate speeds are for the secondary roads in the
Northern Rivers region is very much open to question. The prevailing
conditions are often appalling, with large potholes, haphazard
patches, broken edges, uneven heaved surfaces, single lane wooden
bridges. They are every bit as bad as the roads in the Hunter region.

It has been nearly a month since the last really heavy rain in the
region and yet there are still open potholes, and 'repaired' potholes
that have opened again. On some sections, the road surface is almost
entirely composed of pothole repair bitumen.

A week ago I was on the Teven road (in order to bypass that shithole
of a town Ballina) it was night and it had rained sufficiently to make
some of the potholes difficult to see. I had the misfortune to hit
one at around 80kph which resulted in a totally fucked tyre and a
damaged Ronal wheel.

The Sydney centric NSW government obviously doesn't care otherwise
they would have been fixed. I think the locals have just given up hope
of the roads ever being improved. Years ago there was a "Fix
Australia / Fix The Roads" campaign with signposts where it should
have been most embarrassing . The signs are still there (a bit faded
now) and the roads are now even worse.

[Ext User(Diesel Damo)]

On Mar 12, 10:14*am, E. Newnes <enewn...@solvo.com> wrote:

> Just what the appropriate speeds are for the secondary roads in the
> Northern Rivers region is very much open to question. *The prevailing
> conditions are often appalling, with large potholes, haphazard
> patches, broken edges, uneven heaved surfaces, single lane wooden
> bridges. They are every bit as bad as the roads in the Hunter region.
>
> It has been nearly a month since the last really heavy rain in the
> region and yet there are still open potholes, and 'repaired' potholes
> that have opened again. *On some sections, the road surface is almost
> entirely composed of pothole repair bitumen.

"Nearly a month"? I'm lucky if the road I live on gets fixed once a
year.

> A week ago I was on the Teven road (in order to bypass that shithole
> of a town Ballina) it was night and it had rained sufficiently to make
> some of the potholes difficult to see. *I had the misfortune to hit
> one at around 80kph which resulted in a totally fucked tyre and a
> damaged Ronal wheel.
>
> The Sydney centric NSW government obviously doesn't care otherwise
> they would have been fixed. I think the locals have just given up hope
> of the roads ever being improved. *Years ago there was a *"Fix
> Australia / Fix The Roads" campaign with signposts where it should
> have been most embarrassing . The signs are still there (a bit faded
> now) and the roads are now even worse.

[Ext User(Mot Adv)]

"Mot Adv"
> Derestriction signs are discontinued in NSW, prohibitied from the "NSW
> Speed Zoning Guidelines". Councils had been installing them on crappy
> roads and the authorisation for them to do so was withdrawn back in 2004.

> AS1742.4 of 1999 catalogues the sign as an R4-2, meaning ".... that no
> speed limit applies to the road beyond the sign". (applies 'Under another
> law of this jurisdiction' at ARR25).

> In the UN Convention, the sign is cataloged as a C,17a "End Of All Local
> Prohibitions Imposed On Moving Vehicles".

> On Australian roads the REPLACEMENT for this sign is the R4-12 - "End
> Speed Limit" sign, contains the word "END" with a number in a circle
> representing the ceasing speed-limit. This sign falls back to the rural
> default, both in AS1742.4 of 1999 AND in ARR.
On discussing this last paragraph further, it seems NSW will *NOT* use
EITHER the R4-2 speed derestriction sign, OR the R4-12 End Speed Limit
sign - NSW will simply rely on the applicable 'default speed-limit' - that
held at ARR 25 and as defined in the ARR Dictionary.

(R4-12 is as yet unapplied on a road in NSW - though permitted under the
current 'working copy' of the NSW Speed Zoning Guidelines- V2.3, a later
version is being developed and again prohibits R4-12 and the derestriction
R4-2).

Folk will need to better understand when and how the default limits apply.
That in iteself is not too hard and saves signage cost/s.


> The derestriction sign *may* be re-introduced to remove a speed-limit, but
> only to 'lengths of road'. The exception rather than the rule.
The derestriction can be re-used, if politically directed by a NSW political
party in power at Parliament, or by RTA. (Per length of basis in speed
management).

J.

[Ext User(Albm&ctd)]

In article <b0805595-16ac-49c7-8bd3-
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> "Nearly a month"? I'm lucky if the road I live on gets fixed once a
> year.
>
Best not to live on the road, best to live off the road.
One day you open the front door, get mown down by a truck... and
oooh so nasty for the carpet.

Al
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In article <47d6963b$0$30234$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
kevcat@optunet.com.au says...
>
> Spotted on a back road between Mullumbimbi and Lismore at a place called
> Eureka
> I suspect that the assumed max would be 100
> but the road had only one place where that was possible, the rest was
> 30-40kph due to the very narrow sections with trees right at the edge of
> the bitumen
>
Nothing to do with speed.
Anti-porn: This sign was first adopted in the middle ages by anti-porn
crusaders as no mooning and/or don't show your arse crack in public.

Road sign: It went on to be the side of the road type (as shown in your
photos) to depict the angle your steering will be after hitting a
pothole. Of course there were also the round objects this sign was meant
to ban.. such as all round road wheels.

Branding cattle: Circle Bar Ranch claimed it as their own for a short
while until they found their cattle were being used by small green aliens
for horrible experiments... and often tortured for not saying anything
except moo and mmoooooo.

Witchcraft and/or demon worshiping: Used by people too poor (how poor)
they could not afford a pentacle.

Birth control: Somewhat similar to the above. The victim, usually
naked dumb blonde female is tied, legs together, on the bar section.

Early wheel: The one single spoke wheel was invented by an aboriginal but
failed leaving behind a bent spoke that he threw away and it came back
and hit him in the head.

Toilet is closed: A plank was thrown across a circular pit to prevent
crappers soiling the garments of pit workers in the years 815 to 920. The
view from below is even used today on a sign to ban all sorts of crap. Of
course the crappers found the plank was preferable to accidentally
falling into the pit to crap.
Then in 921 came 'crap to conditions', where one had to look for pit
workers.

Al
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