Daylight Savings, EPGs and Supernet PVR

[Ext User(Snapper)]

My Supernet PVR has barfed at the delayed return to EST (next weekend).
What's happened is that the PVR's local time and the EPG times are no
longer in sync, nor do they match up with DST.

I've turned DST off, I've changed timezones (forward and back an hour) and
a combo of all of the above. No good.

Any of you had this problem with EPGs and STBs or PVRs? If so what have
you done to get around it?

In the meantime I'm simply running the machine to our current time and
will manually program in any shows that need recording.

Fuck the government for fucking us about like this. And for what? Some
bullshit thing about "harmonious" transition with other states? All it's
done is to force IT departments everywhere to spend needlessly on patchs,
updates, time and and so on for nothing. And then there are the airlines
and other companies whose schedules were thrown into array because of this
bullshit.

[Ext User(Netmask)]

"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> My Supernet PVR has barfed at the delayed return to EST (next weekend).
> What's happened is that the PVR's local time and the EPG times are no
> longer in sync, nor do they match up with DST.
>
> I've turned DST off, I've changed timezones (forward and back an hour) and
> a combo of all of the above. No good.
>
> Any of you had this problem with EPGs and STBs or PVRs? If so what have
> you done to get around it?
>
> In the meantime I'm simply running the machine to our current time and
> will manually program in any shows that need recording.
>
> Fuck the government for fucking us about like this. And for what? Some
> bullshit thing about "harmonious" transition with other states? All it's
> done is to force IT departments everywhere to spend needlessly on patchs,
> updates, time and and so on for nothing. And then there are the airlines
> and other companies whose schedules were thrown into array because of this
> bullshit.
>
I had no problems with my BeyonWiz or a mates Topfield

[Ext User(Brian)]

Hi

"Netmask" <netmask56NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
> news:023a5189$0$23942$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> My Supernet PVR has barfed at the delayed return to EST (next weekend).
>> What's happened is that the PVR's local time and the EPG times are no
>> longer in sync, nor do they match up with DST.
>>
>> I've turned DST off, I've changed timezones (forward and back an hour)
>> and
>> a combo of all of the above. No good.
>>
>> Any of you had this problem with EPGs and STBs or PVRs? If so what have
>> you done to get around it?
>>
>> In the meantime I'm simply running the machine to our current time and
>> will manually program in any shows that need recording.
>>
>> Fuck the government for fucking us about like this. And for what? Some
>> bullshit thing about "harmonious" transition with other states? All it's
>> done is to force IT departments everywhere to spend needlessly on patchs,
>> updates, time and and so on for nothing. And then there are the airlines
>> and other companies whose schedules were thrown into array because of
>> this
>> bullshit.
>>
> I had no problems with my BeyonWiz or a mates Topfield
>

I have a couple of Tevion PVR's & they take their time from the station
tuned to, which may or may not be in QLD time. (ABC is 1 hr ahead with
Daylight Saving). Got caught out a couple of times. I just program the thing
an hour earlier & run it for an hour longer. Bit of a pain though.

Brian
Toowoomba, QLD

[Ext User(Greg)]

Here in Sydney all ABC tv epgs are one hour out. So programms that say
should start at 8.30pm are advertised to start at 9.30pm. so you would have
missed the program or recorded the wrong one if using the timer.

All commercial channels are fine here. No problem with incorrect times and
epgs

"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
news:023a5189$0$23942$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> My Supernet PVR has barfed at the delayed return to EST (next weekend).
> What's happened is that the PVR's local time and the EPG times are no
> longer in sync, nor do they match up with DST.
>
> I've turned DST off, I've changed timezones (forward and back an hour) and
> a combo of all of the above. No good.
>
> Any of you had this problem with EPGs and STBs or PVRs? If so what have
> you done to get around it?
>
> In the meantime I'm simply running the machine to our current time and
> will manually program in any shows that need recording.
>
> Fuck the government for fucking us about like this. And for what? Some
> bullshit thing about "harmonious" transition with other states? All it's
> done is to force IT departments everywhere to spend needlessly on patchs,
> updates, time and and so on for nothing. And then there are the airlines
> and other companies whose schedules were thrown into array because of this
> bullshit.
>
>

[Ext User(Snapper)]

Greg wrote...

> Here in Sydney all ABC tv epgs are one hour out. So programms that say
> should start at 8.30pm are advertised to start at 9.30pm. so you would have
> missed the program or recorded the wrong one if using the timer.
>
> All commercial channels are fine here. No problem with incorrect times and
> epgs

I'm getting EPGs from Prime, WIN, Ten Victoria, ABC1, ABC2 and SBS. ALL of
them are one hour out.

The Supernet hasn't got the ability to manually set the time. It has two
settings. One for time zone and one for daylight savings where you can
select the option for various regions such as EU, NZ, Australia, Australia
- Tas (Tasmania must be different to the rest of Oz that runs DST), some
Arabic or Hebrew regions, etc..

Then there's an option to activate or deactivate DST.

Looks like I'll have to manually adjust the recording times of shows that
I grab off the EPG, and to confirm via the newspaper guide that I have the
right times.

[Ext User(Snapper)]

Brian wrote...

> I have a couple of Tevion PVR's & they take their time from the station
> tuned to, which may or may not be in QLD time. (ABC is 1 hr ahead with
> Daylight Saving). Got caught out a couple of times. I just program the thing
> an hour earlier & run it for an hour longer. Bit of a pain though.

An update - I had another play today. SBS doesn't have an EPG at the
moment, ABC1 is an hour out, Prime is OK, WIN is an hour out and Ten Vic
seems to be spot on.

So, it looks like it's a channel by channel thing.

[Ext User(h2o)]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:04:47 +1000, Snapper <snapper1@y7mail.com>
wrote:

>My Supernet PVR has barfed at the delayed return to EST (next weekend).
>What's happened is that the PVR's local time and the EPG times are no
>longer in sync, nor do they match up with DST.

I was worried about this with the strong 5440 which I bought last Fri.
WA changed over from day light saving to normal time yesterday and I
the 5440 worked all this out come Sunday when the change over occured.

>
>I've turned DST off, I've changed timezones (forward and back an hour) and
>a combo of all of the above. No good.

Firmware update required ??

>
>Any of you had this problem with EPGs and STBs or PVRs? If so what have
>you done to get around it?

No problems here.

>
>In the meantime I'm simply running the machine to our current time and
>will manually program in any shows that need recording.
>
>Fuck the government for fucking us about like this. And for what? Some

As other shave mentioned, its probably your box that isn't performing
as it should. The other post has a beyonwiz and topfield and no
problems. I have a strong pvr and no problems with the change over
either.

>bullshit thing about "harmonious" transition with other states? All it's

Your own fault for buying a cheap ass pvr.

>done is to force IT departments everywhere to spend needlessly on patchs,
>updates, time and and so on for nothing. And then there are the airlines
>and other companies whose schedules were thrown into array because of this
>bullshit.

Personnaly I love day light saving. Wish it went all year round. Gets
me out playing sport after work which can only be a good thing
considering Aust are the fatest people per capita on the earth.

[Ext User(David Wilson)]

On Mar 31, 7:35 pm, h2o <h...@nospam.com> wrote:
> As other shave mentioned, its probably your box that isn't performing
> as it should. The other post has a beyonwiz and topfield and no
> problems. I have a strong pvr and no problems with the change over
> either.

Here in Wollongong the ABC, WIN and Prime EPGs are 1 hour out on my
Topfield PVR (running manual time).
SC10 and SBS are correct.

I suspect the former have moved their clocks by 1 hr and left the TZ
at UTC+10 while the latter have (correctly) overridden the premature
return to UTC+10.

[Ext User(Snapper)]

h2o wrote...

> >I've turned DST off, I've changed timezones (forward and back an hour) and
> >a combo of all of the above. No good.
>
> Firmware update required ??

If there is I cannot locate where to download it. The manual talks about
connecting a serial cable via computer to the PVR and to "download the
software from our website". The manual doesn't even mention where the
website is or where to obtain support in Oz, even.

Sure, it's a cheap ass piece of shit as you've so eloquently described it
but it functions.

Anyway, the EPG for the commercial stations seems to have fixed itself,
now. ABC is still out but there's not much on there that I need to record.

> >bullshit thing about "harmonious" transition with other states? All it's
>
> Your own fault for buying a cheap ass pvr.

What, so my purchasing decisions directly affected government policy on a
half baked daylight savings arrangement?

> Personnaly I love day light saving. Wish it went all year round. Gets
> me out playing sport after work which can only be a good thing
> considering Aust are the fatest people per capita on the earth.

I don't mind it, per se, except that it does impact on shiftworkers. I
just wish that they'd stick to an internationally observed schedule and
that it was uniform across the country and that the federal government, if
the states won't come to an agreement, then to legislate federally. It
should have the power to do so under the Constitution. Well, I'd hope it
would have.

[Ext User(Greg)]

Just wait till sunday, hopefully everything will be ok by then, when
daylight saving ends and everybody is back to normal winter time

"Snapper" <snapper1@y7mail.com> wrote in message
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> h2o wrote...
>
>> >I've turned DST off, I've changed timezones (forward and back an hour)
>> >and
>> >a combo of all of the above. No good.
>>
>> Firmware update required ??
>
> If there is I cannot locate where to download it. The manual talks about
> connecting a serial cable via computer to the PVR and to "download the
> software from our website". The manual doesn't even mention where the
> website is or where to obtain support in Oz, even.
>
> Sure, it's a cheap ass piece of shit as you've so eloquently described it
> but it functions.
>
> Anyway, the EPG for the commercial stations seems to have fixed itself,
> now. ABC is still out but there's not much on there that I need to record.
>
>> >bullshit thing about "harmonious" transition with other states? All it's
>>
>> Your own fault for buying a cheap ass pvr.
>
> What, so my purchasing decisions directly affected government policy on a
> half baked daylight savings arrangement?
>
>> Personnaly I love day light saving. Wish it went all year round. Gets
>> me out playing sport after work which can only be a good thing
>> considering Aust are the fatest people per capita on the earth.
>
> I don't mind it, per se, except that it does impact on shiftworkers. I
> just wish that they'd stick to an internationally observed schedule and
> that it was uniform across the country and that the federal government, if
> the states won't come to an agreement, then to legislate federally. It
> should have the power to do so under the Constitution. Well, I'd hope it
> would have.
>
>

[ssar]

I am noticing a similar fault to this in the Electronic Program Guide of my Panasonic DMR-EX77 160GB HDD DVDR, since Daylight Savings has come into effect (Oct 2008) here in Newcastle, NSW.

The guide lists the names of the programs, but they appear to be incorrect by 1 hour, as if they are still showing Eastern Standard Time.

I have checked the Time & Date setting of the unit and it appears to be set to the correct Eastern Daylight Savings Time, but I will check it again and also browse for other reports of this on the net too.

It's interesting that the broadcasters do not desire to offer good, accurate EPGs - Geez much of the modern high-end media are run by pricks eh.
And yea, we should be thankful they show any at all I guess.